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KK Chat -- 10 April 2022

Started by DesertRose, April 10, 2022, 06:57:42 PM

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[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:01:26 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:01:39 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:02:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Hi KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:02:46 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Evie,
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:02:47 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi, KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:02:51 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> How are you?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:05 PM EDT] <KK> I'm good.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I'm currently hand sewing, so please excuse frequent pauses
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Hello from this side.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:32 PM EDT] <Imladris> Hello, KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi all
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:40 PM EDT] <KK> Whatcha sewing?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:42 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> That takes concentration!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:03:57 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Nezz
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:04:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Evie, how's the skirt coming along?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:04:39 PM EDT] <KK> What kind of skirt?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:04:52 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> I'm in the +3 Chair of Somnolence (aka the La-Z-Boy) because Carys has claimed the desk chair (and also because my back is being asinine and the recliner is more comfortable than the desk chair)
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:04:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I found a lovely pattern online for an 8-gored, high waisted skirt, and since Helena has a new Renaissance style bodice that laces up the front, I am pairing that with a long sleeved chemise and the skirt once I've finished it.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:05:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Still logging from the IRC side.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:05:25 PM EDT] Join The_Bee (The_Bee@owirc-qhd.jjd.61.73.IP) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:05:28 PM EDT] <bynw> Hi KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:05:33 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:05:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> It doesn't take a great deal of concentration for me, but it does require more than one hand
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:05:42 PM EDT] <KK> So, is the skirt for you, or for Helena?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:05:49 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi, DR, Hi Bee
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:07 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Bee and DR.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi Bee
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> It's for Helena
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:27 PM EDT] <Laurna> Good Afternoon everyone
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:31 PM EDT] <Imladris> spouse started doing some traditional rug hooking  with the wool strips.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi Laura
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I started it during the craft and chat earlier today, and it's about halfway done
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:51 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hi Wendy
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:51 PM EDT] <Imladris> waves to DR and Bee
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:55 PM EDT] <KK> So it's tiny.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:06:58 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi, Nezz
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:07:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi HM
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:07:15 PM EDT] * The_Bee waves back to Imladris.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:07:40 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, Imladris.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:07:40 PM EDT] <Laurna> Just back from buying plants for the garden
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:07:55 PM EDT] <KK> What kind of plants?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:00 PM EDT] <The_Bee> What plants did you buy?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:21 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Food plants or pretty plants?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:25 PM EDT] <Laurna> Cherry tomatos, strawberries. Cuccumber,zuccini.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:35 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yum!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:35 PM EDT] <KK> Ah, edibles.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:38 PM EDT] <Imladris> growing a Calamansi.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:42 PM EDT] <Laurna> also Mint, Basil, Oragino and thyme
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:43 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Ah, salad!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:08:54 PM EDT] <KK> Calamansi?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:03 PM EDT] <Imladris> calomondins
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:15 PM EDT] <KK> What is that?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:15 PM EDT] <The_Bee> ??
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Be careful with zucchini plants. They are PRODUCTIVE little things.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:28 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> 😁
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:41 PM EDT] <Imladris> Those supersour little orange citrus that look like miniature tangerines.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:57 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Not kumquats?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:09:58 PM EDT] <Laurna> Last year my zucchinis were very sad things. I am planting them in more sunlight this year
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:00 PM EDT] <KK> Ah. Never heard the term before.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:01 PM EDT] <Imladris> nope
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:17 PM EDT] <Imladris> used to grow in Broward people planted them
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> That said, I have a yummy recipe for a carrot-zucchini sheet cake with cream cheese frosting.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:31 PM EDT] <Laurna> I would love to have a Lowquat tree,
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:39 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Be careful, Laurna, or they'll start a revolution and take over the garden!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:40 PM EDT] <KK> I remember kumquats in South Florida.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:41 PM EDT] <Imladris> and they used to sell to tourists as miniature orange trees
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:10:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Loquats are sweet, though.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:11:11 PM EDT] * The_Bee likes sweet.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:11:14 PM EDT] <Imladris> loquats were "japanese plums"
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:11:25 PM EDT] <Laurna> We had this amazzing loquat tree when I was young, I have not seen one again
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:11:25 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, that's where I used to eat them, well and also in Miccosukee. A lady had a tree.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:11:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> This is the style of bodice I'm making the skirt to go with. I have a chemise and the bodice already, so the gored skirt will cover the lower part of the chemise: https://www.flickr.com/gp/9573389@N08/D005Tw
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:11:51 PM EDT] <Imladris> we had two..  one on side of house  and one in back...  one had one seed the other two.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:11:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi all. Sorry to be late. Houndmistress so good to see you again
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:12:16 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> That's nice, Evie. Hi, DFK.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:12:38 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Good to see all of you. I don't know where my head has been.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:12:51 PM EDT] <Laurna> Evie, is she a doll? she looks real
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:13:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> I harvested some loquats from a tree in a friend's yard, because another friend (who lives in Northern California, where they won't grow) wanted some and their partner and I entered into The Great Loquat Conspiracy to fulfill the wish.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:13:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I think she is real. 😄 That's just a photo I happened to find when I was trying to show someone what Helena's bodice looks like.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:13:27 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hello HoundMistress. all we need is your head here with us for now
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:13:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Love that outfit Evie, Helena will look gorgeous
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:13:43 PM EDT] <The_Bee> or on your neck
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:13:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Though with Phicen and TBLeague action figures, it can be hard to tell sometimes if they're real or not.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:13:54 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> It's been trying to be but it kept wandering off in the evening.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:14:42 PM EDT] <Laurna> she could be a doll taken at just the right angle
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:15:15 PM EDT] <Laurna> HM, I am bad in that I wander off in the afternoon and totally forgot about Craft and chat
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:15:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> wrist joints or the lack of them would be your clue
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:15:25 PM EDT] <Imladris> found a place to add to my bucket list to visit.  :Lauterbrunnen
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:15:40 PM EDT] <KK> Yesterday I went to an SCA demo event at a local brewery, and a lady there had on a beautiful bodice somewhat like that, over a colored gown. It was beautiful.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:15:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Ooh!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I wasn't feeling well last night, so I didn't wake up again until just after craft time started. So I got there a bit late
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:08 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yep, Laurna, that's it exactly.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi everyone
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:47 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hello Shiral
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:48 PM EDT] <bynw> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:50 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:54 PM EDT] <Imladris> hello, Shiral
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Hi Shiral!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> That sounds fun, KK. I was at a brewery yesterday also, but we were celebrating our anniversary there at a BBQ festival that was a fundraiser for breast cancer research
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:16:58 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:17:00 PM EDT] <Laurna> Switzerland in summer would be amazing
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:17:21 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I like the bodice-over-long-sleeves look
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:17:26 PM EDT] <Laurna> KK it would be fun to get out to a SCA event
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:17:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Switzerland at any time is amazing
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:17:56 PM EDT] <Laurna> Happy Anniversary Evie
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:17 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, yes, Happy Anniversary, Evie!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:27 PM EDT] <The_Bee> One of my nieces has been battling breast cancer for several years.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Happy Anniversary, Evie
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Helena's chemise is that long sleeved style, but more sheer. But the bodice will cover all the private bits, so really the sheer fabric will only show glimpses of her arms through the sleeves.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> I don't doubt that, but I DO doubt that either Laurna or I have the appropriate clothing to appreciate Switzerland in winter. 😄
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:43 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, sorry to hear that Bee.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:44 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Happy Anniversary, Evie!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:50 PM EDT] <Imladris> Lauderbrunnen was apparently the inspiration for Rivendell
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Happy anniversary, Evie and DH!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:18:59 PM EDT] <Imladris> Lauter
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:19:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> I am with you DR
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:19:03 PM EDT] <KK> Yes, I just rediscovered the local group. The Queen of Atlantia was up from N.C. for the event. I need to decide whether I want to get involved again. I have no court garb, and only one field gown.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:19:07 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Sorry to hear that, Bee. Hopefully the treatment will go well. And thanks, we had a fun anniversary outing.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:19:41 PM EDT] <The_Bee> She's optimistic about treatment.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:19:50 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> As for me, I haven't a single thing to wear to Easter Court.....
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:19:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I don't have much in the way of garb anymore myself, though I have one decent outfit for hot, cold, and moderate weather.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> For each of those, I mean.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:07 PM EDT] <KK> Yesterday would have been my and Scott's 39th.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:07 PM EDT] <Laurna> Evie or Shiral- who wrote Richenda in her very very sheer night rail for her wedding night?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Happy anniversary Evie
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:25 PM EDT] <The_Bee> My church is planning an Easter-bonnet party for next sunday.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> That must have been Evie.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> That was probably Alkari, Laurna, or at least it wasn't me.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:34 PM EDT] <Laurna> Happy Anniversary with love KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:49 PM EDT] <KK> Thank you, Laurna.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:20:54 PM EDT] <Laurna> Yes, It may have been Alkari. Love that story
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:21:07 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> I'm debating making a new block for my dresses. I certainly will before I dare take scissors to the sill I bought for my court garb.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:21:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I didn't write any stories of Alaric and Richenda on their wedding night. Most of my stories take place either after their marriage or well before it.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:21:16 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I'm pretty sure I haven't dabbled in Alaric and Richenda's weddding....
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:21:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Happy anniversary to you, with gentle thoughts, KK.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:02 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> So sorry you didn't get to make that anniversary.  We would have had 41 in Mar.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> Unless that was Jerusha.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hope Scott drank a heavenly toast, KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:08 PM EDT] <KK> Thank you, DR.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:11 PM EDT] <The_Bee> May you have many happy memories, KK.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:17 PM EDT] <KK> I do.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Silk, not sill.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Dratted phone keyboard
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Your anniversary was the same as ours, KK? I don't think I knew that.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:48 PM EDT] <KK> April 9th?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:22:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> yes
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:16 PM EDT] <KK> It clearly was an auspicious day. :-)
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:16 PM EDT] <Laurna> Both of my neices birthdays are today, 20 years apart
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> 🙂
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:31 PM EDT] <Laurna> A very wonderful auspicous day
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:34 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, that rail was written into the Alkari story. But she stopped before the actual wedding night.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> My nephew's birthday was April 7th.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Today is my cousin's 40th birthday.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:23:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> It was Alkari in Griphon by the Tail. Sorry that these anniversaries
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:24:12 PM EDT] <Laurna> Ghriphon by the Tail YES a Forvarite.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:24:17 PM EDT] <Imladris> Marcia and I will be 42 years in August
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:24:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Yours, too, Shiral? My younger nephew had his 35th birthday on the 7th.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:24:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Happy anniversary, both of you
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:24:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> ␝serves a cake with strawberries and cream in honor of the anniversaries, today␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:24:53 PM EDT] <Laurna> yuumm
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Yup. Nathan turned 31
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I just had my 12th
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:15 PM EDT] <KK> Yum, Shiral.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Yummy cake!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Mmmm, cake!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Always wished she would give us the wedding night but no such luck.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Strawberries cream and cake is NEVER a bad idea!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:44 PM EDT] * The_Bee sets out glasses of champagne to toast anniversaries and birthdays.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:25:50 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Love Strawberries and cake!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:26:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> ␝adds her magic teapot with everyone's favorite tea just in case people aren't in the mood for alcohol␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:26:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> ␝sets out an ice cream freezer, next to another freezer full of treats like ice cream sandwiches.␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:26:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Can't go wrong with that combo
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:27:07 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> The ice cream freezer serves whichever ice cream flavor you want.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:27:11 PM EDT] <bynw> i'm having my 6th month anniversary with my girlfriend :)
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:27:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Wonderful treats Shiral
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:27:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Yeah bynw
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:27:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> So you see, KK, we're all clearly interested in Alaric and Richenda's wedding, day AND Night, but I would never drop a hint about--oh darn.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:27:36 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> That's good, bynw. Are you doing anything special?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:27:46 PM EDT] * Laurna adds drizzles of chocolate.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:28:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> LOL @ the non-hint
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:28:06 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL! That would be nice, Shiral!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:28:08 PM EDT] <Laurna> nice Byn
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:28:18 PM EDT] <bynw> going to go out to eat sometime this week or maybe next since this is Holy Week and church stuff is taking up some time
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:28:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> ␝gazes at the ceiling with determined innocence.␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:28:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> ␝adds ice cream toppings and sundae dishes to the tea table.␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:29:02 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Stop that, DR! You're going to make me go to Dairy Queen after dinner!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:29:04 PM EDT] <Laurna> Oh the pagentry and the drama
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:29:37 PM EDT] <Imladris> HM,  you every have fairlife ice cream?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:29:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Or next week is Holy Week, for the Orthodox/Torenthi church. 😉
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:29:52 PM EDT] <KK> I might think about weddings....
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:02 PM EDT] <Laurna> OHHHH????
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:10 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I don't think so, Imladris. We have Blue Bell and Blue Bunny and so forth.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Definitely craving RL ice cream, HM...
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Our little ears prick up!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:15 PM EDT] <Imladris> no lactose, and about 30-50% less calories
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Blue bell!!!!!!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:25 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, think about Weddings!!!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> ␝drewl␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose>
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:43 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> You like Blue Bell Nezz?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I have one more set of side gores to add
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:30:52 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> We want Dhugal to find himself a spunky duchess...
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> OhmigoshYES!!!!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I love it, Evie!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:15 PM EDT] <Laurna> That sheer blouse looks just about right for Richenda
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:16 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> We don't get it in Utah
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I mean, I've already thrown two spunky Duchesses Dhugal's way, but yes, an official one would be nice. 😉
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:39 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Nezz, have you had Pralines & Cream?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> The world needs more McLains!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> KK, have you given any thought to whether the Torenthi church runs on a different calendar? The liturgy is pretty clearly Orthodox.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:31:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Yes!!!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:32:15 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, It's Pecans, Pralines and Cream
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:32:18 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> HM, I probably have many years ago
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:32:27 PM EDT] <KK> Haven't thought much about their calendar.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:32:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I'll second the world needing more McLains, and since Duncan has already done his bit there, it's up to Dhugal to provide the rest.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:32:54 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Did you live in Texas, Nezz?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:32:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> This is the point where I should probably not mention that Häagen-Dazs makes a bourbon pecan praline ice cream.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Houston
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> ␝whistles innocently.␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> You probably shouldn't, DR.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> And my parents still in DFW
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:27 PM EDT] <Laurna> DR Please Don't make me suffer
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:33 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, that's good, lots of Blue Bell! I  live near Austin.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Speaking of Duncan doing his bit, I can't recall if I sent KK my Duncan and Maryse story
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:52 PM EDT] <KK> Not sure, Evie.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:33:59 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> That was such a good story Evie
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:04 PM EDT] <Laurna> You had best do that Evie
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Well.....I imagine Duncan is thinking some fond thoughts of grandchildren...
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:10 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I need to work on my latest ballad.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> We were right beside the Blue Bell plant here when we went to the marble carving festival yesterday (before the BBQ event)
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I'll send it to you if I haven't already, KK, though it might be a bit long for the anthology. But just in case.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:42 PM EDT] <KK> Marble carving festival? Cool!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> <—jealous
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:34:56 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Really? I didn't know about that festival!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:35:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> I made my mom "suffer" through it, since pecan praline ice cream is high on her list of faves and she likes a little bourbon every once in a while (usually when she hangs out with my uncle/her brother).
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:35:41 PM EDT] <Imladris> Laughs, unless Dhugal decides he TOO has a vocation.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:02 PM EDT] <Laurna> NO!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:07 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Is there going to be an anthology? I've missed out on a lot!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> 😂
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> No way!!!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Even if he did, the Ducal succession of Cassan is rather important
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:39 PM EDT] <The_Bee> We've all been invited to contribute to it.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:42 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I just cannot see Dhugal in a priest's robes!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Dhugal doesn't seem the type to me
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:43 PM EDT] <Imladris> somehow I KNEW that would strike a few nerves
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I don't think a vocation was at the top of Dhugal's mind when he was stealing kisses from Carthane's daughter behind the curtains. 😄
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:36:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> It doesn't really track with Dhugal in canon.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:37:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Nope, he likes girls too much
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:37:10 PM EDT] <KK> No, I don't think he has a vocation.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:37:16 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, that sounds good! I'll have to keep up with when it's coming out.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:37:30 PM EDT] <Laurna> Bless you KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:37:37 PM EDT] <Imladris> LOL
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:37:38 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I meant, contribute to the anthology, not Dhugal's celibacy.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:37:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> He also has not one not two but three titles to his name. He HAS to have children.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:38:10 PM EDT] <KK> I can't do anything about that anthology until I wade through all the paper clutter in my office.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:38:18 PM EDT] <Laurna> Many Chilldren
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:38:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Given his romance with Maryse, I doubt Duncan was exactly immune to pretty girls himself. Just too dedicated to God to marry one, since the Church of Gwynedd didn't give him the option to choose both. If it had, I think he'd have been happy as a married priest.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:38:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> (Duke of Cassan, Earl of Kierney, Earl of Transha.)
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:38:37 PM EDT] <The_Bee> That gives us more time to write.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:39:05 PM EDT] <Imladris> I agree, Evie
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:39:09 PM EDT] <The_Bee> paper clutter
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:39:14 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> He needs 3 sons then although the eldest could be the first 2. Or 1 & 3.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:39:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Transha passes by tanistry, so he doesn't per se have to have a son to take it over, but not so much with Cassan and Kierney.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:39:40 PM EDT] <Laurna> And of course ALL the Alaric/Richenda Children have to have many children too
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:39:42 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Wish I could write. I have ideas, but just not organized enough to write anything long.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:40:16 PM EDT] <Laurna> Short is better for this anyway HM. may be a poem
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:40:18 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> And then one day, Kelson and Araxie will produce a little Prince of Meara
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:40:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Kierney seems to be the title for the duke's oldest son (Kevin bore it in life).
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:40:29 PM EDT] <The_Bee> brb garderobe
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:41:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <DesertRose (she/her)> Prince Javan, per Codex.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:41:07 PM EDT] <Laurna> oh Aye
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:41:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> IIRC the Earl of Kierney is usually the heir presumptive of Cassan (the way the heir to the current Throne of England is usually the Prince of Wales, and the monarch wouldn't create a Prince of Wales who isn't their heir), so really he'd just need one heir
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:41:27 PM EDT] <Laurna> And twin girls first
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:41:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> And hopefully several other little princes and princesses
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:42:28 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> since we are coming up on Easter, here's my HubPages Easter story. https://hubpages.com/animals/Julou-Dogs-Hoppy-Easter
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:42:58 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> But that heir would be VERY busy!!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:43:01 PM EDT] <KK> brb
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:43:16 PM EDT] <Laurna> Very nice Hounds, Hound Mistress
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:43:36 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Did you read it, Laurna?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:43:38 PM EDT] <bynw> sure looks like you can write to me HoundMistress
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:43:46 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I know some people have read it.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:44:07 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Maybe I'll try something. You know there would be hounds in it.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:45:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Mmmm, hard boiled Easter eggs... 🙂
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:45:32 PM EDT] <KK> back
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:45:33 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> My Olive Garden leftovers aare starting to call me. I'll have to go in a few.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:45:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hounds belong in a castle, Hound Mistress! Just be careful when you have a platter of pheasants
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:45:58 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL! Shiral! I loved that!!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:46:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> No self-respecting dog would just let those birdies go to waste...
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:46:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Lol
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:46:46 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hounds at a hunting party.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:47:00 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Good Lord no! Quanah would be trying to eat them all!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:47:15 PM EDT] <Laurna> Great Easter Bunny story HM
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:47:19 PM EDT] <Imladris> Had lunch in Deadwood.  $17.95 filet
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:47:36 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Ouch!  I bet it was good though.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:47:47 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Thanks Laurna.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:47:50 PM EDT] <KK> I would hope it was good.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:48:10 PM EDT] <Imladris> well Filet mignon  at a restaurant..  that is a good price for the meal
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:48:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I just checked, and it doesn't look like I sent KK "The Secret Son," just "In Pulverem Reverteris," so I'll try to remember to send Duncan's and Maryse's story after chat.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:48:29 PM EDT] <KK> Thank you!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:48:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Last week my brother and his wife were visiting from Florida. Restaurant meals, of which I've had quite a few lately, are expensive almost no matter what you order.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:48:42 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, do send it! It was such a good story!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:49:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> "In Pulverem Reverteris" is definitely short enough for the anthology, though. It's a short story set on the Ash Wednesday following Dhugal's knighting.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:49:09 PM EDT] <Laurna> We went out to lunch yesterday, but either I am getting old or restaruant food. just doesn't taste good anymore.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:49:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> It might just be that restaurant, Laurna
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:49:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I get annoyed when I go to a restaurant and am served expensive, but mediocre food.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:49:57 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> A lot of things don't taste as good to me as they used to.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:49:57 PM EDT] <Laurna> BJ Brewery. usually it is good but not yesterday
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:49:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I am sending The Knighting of Liam. It may too long but I would like forb her to read it and decide.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:50:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> The BBQ festival we went to yesterday was fun, but a bit disappointing since none of the BBQ selections even came close to being as good as the BBQ at our favorite BBQ joint up the road from our house.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:50:36 PM EDT] <Laurna> I love BBQ
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:50:46 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> did you finish that one, DFK? I need to read the rest of it.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:50:55 PM EDT] <Laurna> What would a medieval BBQ sauce taste like
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:17 PM EDT] <KK> We have a BBQ joint just up the road from here, called Rack 'Em, Smack 'Em. Excellent ribs!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:28 PM EDT] <Laurna> yumm
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Love a good rib...
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:36 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> And I still think the Game story should be published. I can't get my printer running. Although I guess it may not be done yet?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:38 PM EDT] <bynw> that's a fun name for a BBQ place
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:39 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Great name for a restaurant.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I'm not sure, since I prefer tomato-based sauces which they wouldn't have had yet. They might have had ingredients for a vinegar based sauce, Carolina style, but whether they'd have thought to combine the ingredients that way, I don't know.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:51:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> red wine, spices, onions, no tomato
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Did they have BBQ in medieval tiems
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Why no tomato?
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:16 PM EDT] <Laurna> Book two is ready to come out on the furum HM. I will put it out this week if I can.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Not as we know it, though the combo Bee mentions could work
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Well not as such, I don't think. But they did cook outdoors at times
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Tomato is a New World discovery
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> As are potatoes
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:52 PM EDT] <The_Bee> They probably didn't call it barbecue, but they had meat roasted over a fire.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> ␝note to self: send Lauren's new files␝
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:57 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> They sort of  did when they had a pig roast.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:52:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> And what we call corn in the US, which the rest of the world calls maize
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:53:10 PM EDT] <KK> I'd think they might have discovered both items at some point, just elsewhere from New World.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:53:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Just without the sauce
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:53:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Yes, they had meats prepared in ways we would consider to be a form of barbecue
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:53:22 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Thanks, Laurna
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:53:30 PM EDT] <Laurna> Tomatoes are itallian. they should have it imported
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:53:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> And after the barbecue, they all went to the Royal Hoe Down....
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:53:50 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Tomatoes are Italian now, but they didn't have them before the discovery of the New World
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:07 PM EDT] <Laurna> Royal Shindig sounds good to me
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:11 PM EDT] <Imladris> ok.... need to go grab dinner....
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:15 PM EDT] <Imladris> later all
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:24 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Italian food is tpmatoesfrom americ and past from china.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> The Italians knew a good thing when the saw it. And then they made the Tomato a part of their cuisine
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:29 PM EDT] <Laurna> cya Imladris
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:34 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> bye Imladris
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Bye, Imladris
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> A lot of the dishes we use potatoes in now might have been possible in medieval times if you substitute turnips
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:45 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Bye Imladris
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> They danced the cotton-eye Joseph at the royal hodown
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:54:49 PM EDT] Quit Imladris (Imladris@owirc-240laq.midco.net) has left this server (Quit: Connection closed).
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:05 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, dinner is sounding good at this end, too. So I'm going to check out. See you all next week.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:08 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I guess I'd better go, too, so my stomach will stop growling. Have a great evening and week everyone !
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> See you later, KK!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> See everyone next week, barring unforseen circumstances
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:31 PM EDT] <Laurna> Good night KK and happy anniversary memmories
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Have a great week Kk
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:33 PM EDT] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> And darn you all for making me think about ice cream in april!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:42 PM EDT] <The_Bee> enjoy your dinner, KK!  Thanks for coming.  See you next week, I hope.
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:43 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Good night, KK
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:46 PM EDT] <KK> Nighters!
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> A lot of hungry people here. Hope you all have a good dinner. See you next week
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Night everyone else leaving
[Sunday, April 10, 2022] [7:55:53 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)