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KK Chat -- 29 July 2023

Started by DesertRose, July 30, 2023, 08:03:32 PM

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[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:07:13 PM EDT] Join web66 has joined this channel.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:07:28 PM EDT] Nick web66 is now known as KK.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:07:30 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Is that you, KK?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:07:36 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi KK!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:07:43 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:07:45 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:07:58 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:08:05 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> KK, hi!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:08:18 PM EDT] <The_Bee> How as your week, KK?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:08:25 PM EDT] <The_Bee> was
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:08:40 PM EDT] <bynw> hi KK
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:08:44 PM EDT] <KK> My week was....interesting.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:08:50 PM EDT] <The_Bee> ??
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:08:52 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Uh..oh...
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:09:11 PM EDT] <KK> I'm about to embark on a new medical adventure.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:09:22 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Oh dear.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:09:29 PM EDT] <The_Bee> sounds scary.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:09:33 PM EDT] <bynw> oh oh
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:10:39 PM EDT] <KK> I saw the orthopedist on Wednesday, they took some xrays of my knees, and we need to do not one but two total knee replacements--probably not at the same time, but I need to talk further to the surgeon about that.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:10:42 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Oh no.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:11:01 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> 😦
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:11:39 PM EDT] <The_Bee> bummer! will you be on crutches? or a wheelchair?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:11:47 PM EDT] <bynw> that has a lengthy recovery
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:13:15 PM EDT] <KK> Apparently I'm bone on bone in both knees--which accounts for most of the balance issues I've been having for some time, an automatic effort by my body to get that bit closer to the ground if the knees buckle and cause a fall. ,
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:13:58 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Oh dear
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:14:29 PM EDT] <The_Bee> better your knees than your heart or brain
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:14:46 PM EDT] <KK> Walker first, then to graduate to a cane, and then hopefully nothing. The surgery itself doesn't scare me, but I'm told that recovery is usually a bitch, especially the first few days.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:15:16 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I know. I hD HIP REPLACEMENT SURGERY.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:15:22 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, heart is fine
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:15:37 PM EDT] <The_Bee> sorry caps lock n, didn't mean to shout
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:16:04 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Hello all
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:16:11 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi shiral
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:16:15 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Hi
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:16:20 PM EDT] <KK> I watched a video of the actual surgery, so I know how they do it; I'm impressed that modern medical science is able to do that.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:16:26 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Shiral.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:17:12 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Ouch, sorry about the knee problems, KK. But my mother is much happier and more comfortable for having had knee replacement surgery
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:17:29 PM EDT] <The_Bee> good no know!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:17:35 PM EDT] <The_Bee> to know
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:17:37 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> You'll get to be bionic
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:17:54 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> But the recovery in the short term isn't fun
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:18:29 PM EDT] <The_Bee> How long is short term?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:18:52 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> My sister has been able to do a lot more walking after her knee replacements, as in miles per day. It was hard to get through it all, but the result was much better.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:18:56 PM EDT] <bynw> my brother had a partial knee replacement surgery about 8 years ago. he consented to having it filmed and even live streamed back then. it was fascinating to watch
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:19:29 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Definitely do one knee at a time
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:19:46 PM EDT] <KK> Lots of appointments in the next 6 weeks, including pre-admission testing, pre op consult with surgeon, a joint class. And I've got to do pre op exercises several times a day to strengthen the quads, especially.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:19:46 PM EDT] <KK> consult with the surgeon, leg-strengthening exercises to be done several times a day,
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:21:07 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> I guess this seriously puts a crimp on any plans to dance ballet, KK
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:22:10 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Triathalon too.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:23:03 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> I guess this seriously puts a crimp in any plans to dance ballet, KK
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:23:13 PM EDT] <KK> Plus I have to take care of other tasks, like getting my teeth cleaned; had to delay my past apointment because of needing post op clearance from the cardiologists. Have to get a haircut, get a pedicure to take off the polish before surgery, though they can trim the nails and buff down calluses and the like, because I really won't be able to reach
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:23:13 PM EDT] <KK> my toes for some weeks after the op.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:24:16 PM EDT] <KK> Well, it does squelch my plans to take the Amtrak out to Sacramento in October for my birthday.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:24:40 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Unfortunately, yes.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:24:46 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Please try not to get addicted to the pain meds they give you.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:24:56 PM EDT] <KK> Birthday with y sister, whom I haven't seen for about 5 years.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:25:42 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Would she be able to see you instead?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:25:43 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Can she come to you?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:25:52 PM EDT] <KK> I'm very careful with pain meds; still had some left from my knee adventure 2 years ago.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:25:53 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Keeping u pwith cleaning is important. I went without for a couple of years because reasons, and it didn't have great results. For example, inflammation in the gums can be a problem for the rest of the body.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:26:18 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Keeping up with cleaning is important. I went without for a couple of years because reasons, and it didn't have great results. For example, inflammation in the gums can be a problem for the rest of the body.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:27:46 PM EDT] <KK> Funny you should mention that, Evie. I'm thinking to ask her if she could come to me to help with that first week or two after the surgery. I'd pay for her plane ticket, and she lost her elderly kitty in the last month or two, so she would'nt have to worry about boarding her.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:28:27 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> She could be a help to you, and getting to be with Daphne could be helpful for her also.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:28:34 PM EDT] <The_Bee> ;( for lost kitty
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:28:35 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Having someone reliable to help in the first weeks can be such a help.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:29:00 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> And you can have some sister time and a birthday celebration, even if it wasn't the one you were planning on
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:29:07 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> I mean, not that being with you too wouldn't be helpful. 😄 But I do miss having a cat around now that mine are both gone.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:30:33 PM EDT] <KK> TM, I know how important it is to keep up with dental cleaning. I usually go every 3-4 months, and it's been twice that because of having to cancel in conjunction with the heart procedure. And I already know that I'd have to wait 3-4 months after the knee. Gotta get those toofies attendedto!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:31:36 PM EDT] <The_Bee> ditto. I haven't had a cleaning since the pandemic began.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:32:53 PM EDT] <KK> Naughty Bee! You need to make an appointment. We ladies of a certain age need to be vigilant about our dental health, to avoid dentures or worse for the rest of our lives.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:33:41 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> or heart trouble. Truly.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:33:52 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I wonder if the place I use still does free dental service for old folks.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:34:48 PM EDT] <KK> I'd guess that they do. But you can consult your local Senior Services place to find out.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:34:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I'm embarrassed to go after so long.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:35:20 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> An oral infection can lead to a cardiac infection. So it's more important than many people realize.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:35:28 PM EDT] <The_Bee> but You're right; i need to get it done.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:36:02 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> @The_Bee: I very much think that they've seen worse. Also, what are they going to do, write a letter to your parents?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:36:04 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Embarrassment is rarely fatal. Heart problems caused by not seeing your dentist might be.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:36:30 PM EDT] <KK> The pandemic interrupted a lot of things for a lot of people. I'd be embarrassed <not> to go.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:36:47 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> And yes, what TM said. So many people avoid dentist visits, they are very used to seeing teeth and gums that haven't been treated recently.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:04 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> @The_Bee I am also reminded of a great comfort, the Chinese Relativity Theorem: No matter how great your triumph or how great your loss, approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less. It really has been a comfort to me.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:15 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I ussed to have dreams that my teeth were falling apart.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:24 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> LOL, that's a great theorem.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:37 PM EDT] <The_Bee> LOL!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:42 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:46 PM EDT] <KK> LOL, TM.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:50 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Hi Jerusha!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:37:51 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:38:10 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Jerusha.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:38:17 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Sorry about the knee surgery, KK; but all will go well
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:38:28 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Jerusha
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:39:02 PM EDT] <KK> The surgery doesn't worry me. The recovery may be another story entirely.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:39:17 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> One day at a time
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:39:31 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> And a kitty heating pad
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:40:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> brb
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:42:03 PM EDT] <KK> I think I'll need to move into my guest bedroom for a few weeks for recovery. My regular bed is challenging without knee complications. I have to be able to get my walker square to the side of the bed, and even then, getting out and into the bathroom will be a challenge.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:42:45 PM EDT] <KK> Bed in the guest room is normal height, and double rather than queen.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:43:11 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> A guest in your own house
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:43:58 PM EDT] Join HoundMistress (181b3bb6@CCN-8817821E.austin.res.rr.com) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:44:08 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Hi HoundMistress
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:44:27 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, and if my sister comes to hep me, she'll be in the big bed. And I expect that Daphne will be able to find me. She sleeps right at the foot of the bed.ll
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:44:28 PM EDT] <bynw> hi HoundMistress
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:44:30 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi HoundMistress
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:44:31 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Hi Hound Mistress
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:44:43 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi! First time I've remembered in time to get here in weeks! How's everyone?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:45:24 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Well, Hound, you'd ask that ...
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:45:44 PM EDT] <KK> You'll have to read the log to find out about my upcoming knee surgery. Left knee first, on September 11.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:46:28 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> They are moving fast
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:46:30 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Oh, that's a good date. The Massacre of the Holy Innocents wasn't available?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:47:01 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> It's memorable, at least
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:47:34 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised to get on the schedule so quickly. But I wanted to get it done ASAP.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:47:46 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Well, that sounds like it fits the bill
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:48:28 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Knee replacement? I have bad knees but not ready to do the surgery.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:48:29 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, we're like 6 weeks out. Don't want to dwell on it any longer than that.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:48:45 PM EDT] <KK> brb
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:48:50 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Right. The less the better.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:48:50 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Anticipation is not a good thing
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:49:18 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> I just realized that the ailments would work better if reversed. Then it would be TheBee's knees.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:49:20 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> But everyone I've known who had it was very happy afterwards.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:49:39 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> I just realized that the ailments would work better if reversed. Then it would be The_Bee's knees.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:50:07 PM EDT] <The_Bee> OUCH!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:50:25 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Yes, that's what I've heard. Worth the inconvenience. My brother had a hip replacement of his own and it made a big difference for him.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:50:37 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL! The bees' knees meant something was good.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:51:21 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> If you don't have Rhys Thuryn when you need him, you might as well get a knee replacement
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:51:36 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> True!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:51:42 PM EDT] <The_Bee> There used to be a cocktail called "the bee's knees."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:51:50 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Wouldn't that be great?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:52:12 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> The cocktail, or having Rhys around?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:52:35 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Having Rhys around. What was in the cocktail?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:52:47 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> I have no idea
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:52:49 PM EDT] <The_Bee> honey, I assume.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:52:52 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Can picture the surgeon looking behind his shoulder. "Does anyone recognize the dude in the cowl standing there?"
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:53:14 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> He's with me!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:53:33 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> "Has he scrubbed up to be here in OR?"
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:54:09 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Gin, honey syrup, lemon juice, lemon twist
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:54:27 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Sudden flash of green healing light. "Yep, he's scrubbed."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:54:44 PM EDT] <The_Bee> At least he's not carrying a schive
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:54:54 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Sorry I totally missed the time for chat
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:55:11 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> I thought we established last time or two that Deryni Healing couldn't deal with infectious agents (yet)?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:55:11 PM EDT] <KK> I'm back.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:55:29 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> It can't?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:55:32 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Hello KK
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:56:01 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Why can't they heal blood ailments like infections?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:56:24 PM EDT] <The_Bee> they didn'tknow about germs back then.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:56:41 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> They would have to know what the germ was and what it does to cause the damage
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:56:49 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> But the healer is really a conduit, so why wouldn't God know what to do?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:56:54 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> I thought that was why King Alroy died of consumption: they didn't know from TB.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:57:32 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, sometimes just treating symptoms isn't enough.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:57:44 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Ow, KK.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:57:57 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> If they COULD heal, and you had a good squad: dear Lord, your warband would like triple in effectiveness. Most soldiers died of infection before the most modern times.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:58:01 PM EDT] <The_Bee> And Alyce's brother died from what sounded like appendicitis.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:58:07 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I guess if they could heal something fast enough, infection wouldn't have time to set in.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:58:18 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> If Deryni Healers COULD heal infections, and you had a good squad: dear Lord, your warband would like triple in effectiveness. Most soldiers died of infection before the most modern times.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:58:23 PM EDT] <KK> It was definitely appendicitis.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:58:43 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> It seemed very unfair
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:58:44 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> So sad. I really liked Ahern
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:59:03 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> he would have made a great Duke, Much like his nephew
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:59:10 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I never thought about that. So many people must have died from appendicities then.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:59:12 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> How different things might have been
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:59:47 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Since Mom's hip replacement, Layla has made it her mission in life (even more so than before) is to ensure that Mom's lap never gets cold. 20 lbs ish of heating pad with incredibly soft fur, LOL.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [7:59:48 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Complaining about unfair death? Welcome to the Deryni universe. I'm surprised nobody died of a surfeit of palfreys or something, given the massive early (by our standards) mortality rate.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:00:01 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> But if Ahern had not died and had had children of his own, then Alaric would not have had a chance to be Duke of Corwyn.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:00:04 PM EDT] <The_Bee> An appendix can be removed by surgery. But you need anesthesia.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:00:10 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, I did a lot of research on appendicitis, then ran it past my GP at the time. He was thrilled to be asked.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:00:28 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Surfeit of Palfreys? Did they have too many horses?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:00:35 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> cool research
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:00:43 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> It's a joke from "1066 And All That".
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:00:58 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Tee hee!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:01:26 PM EDT] <The_Bee> 1066? I love that book!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:01:40 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I've never heard of it.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:02:00 PM EDT] <KK> It was a good'un.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:02:00 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> 1066 And All That is the "memorable history of England" -- the kind of muddled history that people vaguely remember from school. There were some wicked jokes in there, like "William V was called the Naval King because he created so many piers." (aural pun about a Parliamentary crisis)
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:02:01 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> For the only time in my life, I threw _Camber the Heretic_ across the room. By now I've lost count of my rereads, and I *always* cry when Rhys dies.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:02:27 PM EDT] <The_Bee> written in the 1930s, A comdedy history of England.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:02:34 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Yes.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:03:02 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> "They kept trying to answer the Irish Question, but when they got close, the Irish would change the question."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:03:20 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> So sad to lose Rhys. It's why I don't reread those prequels anymore.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:03:29 PM EDT] <KK> LOL. That sounds like the Irish.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:03:37 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> And Evaine was even sadder.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:04:12 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Well, because the answer to The Irish Question is, "get your arses back to your own island!"
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:04:59 PM EDT] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:05:03 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> One novel I read described the Welsh people as "The Irish who couldn't swim."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:05:12 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> [rant omitted about how many "The X Question" problems were pointing to X when X were the victims. The Servant Problem is a mild case]
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:05:18 PM EDT] <KK> LOL, hadn't heard that one before.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:08:34 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> So many time the answer to the X Question/Problem is "quit being jerks and leave the X alone." But that requires being willing to admit you have been/are being jerks.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:08:44 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hanging out at my bro's house...
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:08:56 PM EDT] <KK> Well, my sorting and culling and tossing of "stuff" in my living room is starting to look like I'm actually accomplishing something. And now I'm even more determined to get things cleared away before the knee surgery. Have found lots of interesting files, as the Layers of boxes shrinks.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:09:18 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Well done, KK
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:10:03 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Any "lost" notes for future books?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:11:49 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oooh, good question
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:12:30 PM EDT] <KK> Today I went through a LOT of loose photos, and even threw some away. I've got a pile to send to Cameron, and a few to my half-sister in Ohio. And I'm finding that I have far more smaller boxes than I think I'm going to need. But as I move those into the space between Living room and kitchen, being used as a holding area, the living room itself is
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:12:30 PM EDT] <KK> looking better and better.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:12:47 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Knee surgery doesn't have you laid up as long as it used to.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:12:53 PM EDT] <KK> And yes, I've found Deryni notes.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:13:09 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> How intriguing!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:13:16 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, good!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:13:17 PM EDT] * CambersGhost [discord] <Jerusha2> looks up in anticipation
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:13:24 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Yessss
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:13:55 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Did we ever figure out how Alaric was descended from Evaine & Rhys?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:13:57 PM EDT] * CambersGhost [discord] <shiral_> snaps fingers and produces a platter of cupcakes
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:14:38 PM EDT] <KK> I was surprised to learn that knee surgery is considered an outpatient procedure, where the patient usually goes home the day of the surgery, or perhaps a day or two later, if there's no one at home to help.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:14:38 PM EDT] * CambersGhost [discord] <Jerusha2> searches for extra chocolate frosting
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:15:01 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Whatever kind you like best it's probably on there
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:15:30 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> That surprises me, too. My mom was in the hospital two nights and was in rehab for another week after that
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:16:31 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I would hate to spend that much vacation time on it. We just have Paid Time Off, no separation of Vaca.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:17:16 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I take Ibuprofin, Tylenot, Aleve and use pain pads for mine.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:17:38 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Salonpas
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:17:39 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Oh, bother your knees, what deep secrets were in the notes?!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:17:49 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Laurna managed to figure out the line of descent from the Codex
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:18:01 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> Oh, bother your knees, what deep secrets were in the notes?! 😀
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:18:16 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I'd be interested in that, Laurna, if you are still on.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:18:38 PM EDT] <KK> That sounds about right to me, Shiral. That's what I'd like to have happen. would make lie easier for everyone concerned. And when you're in rehab, they make you do your exercises faithfully. It certainly worked 2 years ago, with my partial tear in the meniscus--other knee, though that one will also get done, perhaps by the end of the year.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:19:27 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Alaric's Healing poTieg or Jerusha. Aidan died too young, and Rhysel married a human.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:19:54 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> I would want to make sure Rhys was in residence to keep you comfortable, KK
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:19:54 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> So that's how it got down to the Morgans?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:20:50 PM EDT] <KK> I intend to invite Rhys and St. Michael to join my surgical team, and maybe the other archangels as well.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:20:54 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Even if he had a thing or two to say about dying young because he hit his head on a stair tread.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:21:08 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> After all by "current" time the Morgans are known Deryni.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:21:42 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, KK! Do invite them and we will ask them to look after you, too.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:21:55 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> And then have Dhugal pop by to learn some Healing fine points from Rhys.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:22:27 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> And Duncan would of course come with him....
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:22:34 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> WHY do cats like emory boards? I can't keep one with the kitten around.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:22:43 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Am I getting carried away?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:23:02 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> No, we want everyone to look after KK.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:23:02 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Healers in reserve are a good thing
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:23:23 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> I mean, I might have started with Duncan and Dhugal, especially since Dhugal is also trained at battle surgery, but do go on, Shiral.... 😉
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:23:32 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> I'd want to listen in on the coversations going on in KK's living room....
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:24:47 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Rhys: "Now let me get this straight, you're a priest and a bishop but you have a legitimate son....because you married Dhugal's mother..."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:24:49 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Duncan: "Well yes, it was a little complicated."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:24:55 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> So around the 10th of Sept, KK?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:25:25 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Here's Laurna's genealogy that shows the links from Camber to Alaric and Duncan, I think: https://www.rhemuthcastle.com/index.php/topic,1448.msg12356.html#msg12356
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:25:47 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Thanks!!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:25:49 PM EDT] <KK> It was fascinating, watching the video of the surgery. It's actually a resurfacing of the ends of the femur and tibia, and the underside of the patella. And there are stainless steel jigs that they put on the ends of the bones, to guide them in exactly where to cut and remove the worn out bits. If cardiologists are electricians and plumbers, maybe
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:25:49 PM EDT] <KK> ortho folk are the carpenters.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:26:29 PM EDT] <bynw> well Ducan married, although a bit unorthodox, Dhugal's mother BEFORE he was a priest let alone a bishop
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:26:39 PM EDT] * CambersGhost [discord] <shiral_> squeaks in sympathetic pain and puts her arms around her knees
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:26:44 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Rhys would have said, GOOD that you had a ligitimate son before ordination. "It is very important that Healers pass down their talents to the next generation. That is why Healers are not supposed to join the church."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:26:48 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Are you having the full replacement surgery?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:27:44 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Duncan. "Well, I had no idea I was a Healer for years.... But I do appreciate your logic, especially when men like Hubert and Loris were in charge of the Church."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:27:50 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I should not tell you that they actually use saws and hammers.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:28:32 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> "Bradley, pass me the ball peen and that band saw...."
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:28:47 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Shivers
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:28:55 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Ow! That's why I'm not looking at it yet.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:28:57 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> "You did sterilize these after working on the barn, right?"
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:28:59 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Please, not a chain saw!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:29:48 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> I'll shut up before KK sends a hit man after me.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:12 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> I don't even like taking blood tests!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:25 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Me neither, Shiral
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:33 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Well, I better go find something for supper in my leftovers. Everyone have a great week!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:34 PM EDT] <KK> September 11, HoundMistress. I'll keep you guys briefed as the date approaches. And a lot can change along the way. My brother-in-law had triple bypass surgery a few weeks ago, and they had him the prep room, IV running, when an emergency came up for his lead surgeon, and they had to postpone it for a day. But I'll let you know when I've got a
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:35 PM EDT] <KK> start time.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:53 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> "I'm just more efficient." I can just amount of ragging that Kevin could have gotten if he'd been alive when Duncan said, "hey. what's that brooch?"
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:55 PM EDT] <The_Bee> same to you, HoundMistress
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:30:58 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, please do, KK!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:31:10 PM EDT] <KK> And I know they use hammers and saws.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:31:31 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Yicky, yicky yicky.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:31:44 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Bye all!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:31:50 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Night HM
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:31:57 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Cya hm
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:31:58 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Nighters, HoundMistress
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:31:59 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> night, HM
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:00 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Good night!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:09 PM EDT] <The_Bee> KK, will you keep chatting til surgery time? Zoom nextweek?
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:17 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Goodnight!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:31 PM EDT] <KK> And on that note, I'll also check out. Tummy is calling.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:38 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hopefully I'll remember next week in time. Or if it's Zoom, the week after. Hugs all around!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:53 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Next week should be Zoom
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:54 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Good week to all!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:54 PM EDT] Quit HoundMistress (181b3bb6@CCN-8817821E.austin.res.rr.com) has left this server (Quit: Client closed).
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:32:57 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Night, KK. Have a good week. Hope you won't need to replace anything OTHER than knees
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:00 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Have a good Week, KK. and read those lost notes and make more notes that don't get lost this time.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:00 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Take care kk, and have a good week! 🙂
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:02 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Have a good week, KK! Find more notes in the boxes.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:08 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Unless KK has a conflict next week
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:21 PM EDT] <KK> me/steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles..
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:25 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Find more inspiration, and keep your laptop close to your bed during recovery!
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:46 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Never know who will be talking to you in your sleep
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:33:48 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> Write while high on pain meds, then share your output. 😄
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:09 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> Where did the rainbow unicorns come from, I wonder....
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:10 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oooh yeah
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:23 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> And ping tutus
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:28 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> pink, I meant
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:34 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <TM> "Denis Arilan at Mardi Gras in Bremagne"
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:38 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <shiral_> LOL
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:40 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> I thought they were metallic tutus
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:40 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> >LOL
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:34:57 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Jerusha2> Interesting armor
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:35:01 PM EDT] <CambersGhost> [discord] <Evie the Verbose> I would read that. 😄
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:35:01 PM EDT] <KK> Don't have a laptop, but I have an iPad and iPhone, and am taming them daily. Nighters, all.
[Sunday, July 30, 2023] [8:35:11 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: Client closed).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)