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KK Chat -- 28 August 2022

Started by DesertRose, August 28, 2022, 08:47:09 PM

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[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:00:34 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:00:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:00:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Hiya KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:00:45 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:00:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Here
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:00:52 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Hi KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:00:55 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi, KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:03 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi, Evie
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:05 PM EDT] <bynw> hi KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Hi HoundMistress
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:20 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Evie
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:27 PM EDT] <KK> Nezz, I know I owe you a letter. I'll get it done in the next few days. A dear friend had a stroke this past week, and I was a bit preoccupied.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:34 PM EDT] <KK> He's doing fine, though.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:36 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:46 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Glad to hear he is doing well.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:01:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. Glad to hear that he's fine. ❤️
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:02:01 PM EDT] <The_Bee> glad your friend is doing well
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:02:06 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> @Evie the Verbose How are you feeling.? Are you over the pneymonia? You ar brave to get a shingles shot whil still recovering. Your immune system is probably saying Hey, what's gong on here>
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:02:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Sorry about the stroke, but good to know he's doing OK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:02:17 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Strokes are so weird in what they affect or don't affect. My cousin is fine except she can't read!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:03:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I'm pretty much over it aside from a lingering cough, but the last several times I had this, the cough tended to linger a few weeks after the antibiotic was completed. Other than that, I feel fine, aside from the sore arm caused by the vaccine.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:03:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Glad he is doing well. Will be AFK for a short time. Have to take mt DH for his daily walk.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:03:37 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Glad to hear that, Evie.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:04:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I was already a week later getting my booster, so I didn't want to keep postponing it indefinitely for fear of lowering its effectiveness.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:04:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Oh I would hate not being able to read
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:04:38 PM EDT] <KK> Always good to hear that good friends and fanily are recovering from life's health challenges.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:04:39 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, her son comes over on Sunday and reads the paper to her.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:05:09 PM EDT] <KK> Yes, not being able to read would be at the top of my list of things I Do Not Want!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:06:00 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> She has no trouble with anything else. They think it will improve.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:06:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I tried an experiment about 30 minutes ago: I made my first batch of Bird custard.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:06:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I always hear about it from people and recipes in the UK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:06:47 PM EDT] <The_Bee> It depends on which area of the brain the stroke hits.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:07:29 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, can affect any part & that determines what you lose or don't lose.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:08:40 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Is bird custard made OF birds or FOR birds?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:08:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Heh.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:08:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> It's just the brand.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:09:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I've been hearing about it for a long time from people in the UK.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:09:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> It's the stuff that The Doctor dunked his fish fingers in. 😉
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:10:10 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Did he keep the recipe in his Tardis?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:10:19 PM EDT] <KK> Ew. I shouldn't think that fish fingers would taste very good dipped in Bird's Custard.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:10:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> No, he got some from Amelia's house
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:10:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> KK, you wouldn't think so. And I guess that's the joke. He didn't like anything else he tried.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:13:17 PM EDT] <KK> Not particularly a Dr Who fan. Don't dislike it, just never got hooked on it.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:13:41 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I just couldn't get into Dr Who. Have lots of friends who love it.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:13:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I likes some seasons and some Doctors... others, not so much.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:13:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I liked Jon Pertwee as The Doctor.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I liked Tom Baker, but I had a hard time watching the series back then because the story went so slowly.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:34 PM EDT] <KK> Speaking of TV shows, how did folks like the premiere of House of the Dragon?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hello All
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:48 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I haven't seen it.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> The later series' tended to move at a lot better pace.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> HI Shiral
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:56 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Shiral.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:14:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:15:03 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I think it comes on something I don't have.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:15:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I'm here because I'm a Deryni Addict....
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:15:11 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi, Shiral
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:15:36 PM EDT] <KK> Ah, well it's HBO. That's a subscription--which I renewed specifically for that show.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:15:50 PM EDT] <KK> A good follow-on to GOT.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:16:01 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> No, I don't have HBO
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:16:03 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I don't have HBO, but then I missed the whole GOT fervor
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:16:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Is this Derynis Anonymous? "Hello, my name is Nezz, and I'm a Deryniholic..."
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:16:18 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I didn't see GOT either
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:16:18 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> LOL
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:16:39 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I'm more into The Mandalorian and all that.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:16:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> ␝puts out tea and strawberry shortcake on the Chatroom Tea Table␝
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:17:00 PM EDT] <KK> Haven't seen any of that.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:17:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Never saw GoT, but I enjoyed the Mandalorian
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:17:48 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> The Mandalorian is great, but Boba Fett, not so much. Till the last 3 episodes, which are basically The Mandalorian.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:17:56 PM EDT] * The_Bee adds rolls with butter, honey and strawberry jam
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:18:04 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yum!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:18:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> ␝adds a big bowl of Birds Custard to the table.␝
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:19:01 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> IS there caramel sauce for the custard?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:19:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> ␝hastily adds caramel sauce␝
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:19:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> There is now
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:19:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> LOL, I was about to type that almost exactly
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:19:24 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL! Thanks!!!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:21:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I'm Back. He had a good walk. His therapist has him walk outside fro 15 minutes a day and we are hoping to gradually increase it
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:21:49 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Good to hear!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:22:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi DFK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:22:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Shiral.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:22:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> hi everyone!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:23:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:23:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> DFK, how long ago was your DH's stroke (or whatever it was)?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:23:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:23:09 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Hi, Jerusha
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:23:21 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:23:55 PM EDT] <bynw> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:23:58 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Jerusha.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:24:18 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Welcome to the Twelve-Step Deryni Addicts meeting
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:24:27 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:24:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Can I just do the two-step?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:24:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Actually it was a few years ago but he has chronic heart failure and we are trying to strengthen his heart. He was in the hospital about a month ago.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:24:47 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> There's no cure!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:24:50 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> It's a start, Jerusha
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:24:55 PM EDT] <The_Bee> only if you're from Texas
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:25:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Since I have two left feet...
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:25:12 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, sorry to hear about the CHF, DFK.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:25:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Tanks,
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:25:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hope all goes well, DFK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:25:41 PM EDT] <The_Bee> hope he keeps improving
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:25:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Hey Jerusha
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:26:08 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I was back in the hosp from 8/2 to 8/8 and the hospitalist kept saying I have Congestive HF but my Cardiologist says that's not true.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:26:23 PM EDT] <KK> Improvement is always good.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:26:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I vote for the cardiologist
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:26:36 PM EDT] <The_Bee> What does he say you have?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:26:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Last time I danced the Texas Two Step was at my cousin's daughter's wedding. I was lousy, and joked that I'd forgotten how to count to two
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:04 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> He says it's the pneumonia that's causing it all and my heart murmur is not that bad.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Sorry about the hospital stay, HoundMistress
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I hope you're at least feeling better
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:30 PM EDT] <KK> One can live quite nicely with many forms of heart murmur.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:38 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Thanks, Shiral. That's 4 X this year and I'm hoping for no more.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Stick with the Cardiologist, since that's what his area of expertise ist
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:58 PM EDT] <KK> 4 tikes--yike!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:27:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Area of expertise. Darn fingers
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:06 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, he says we might eventually have to do something about it but it's fine for now.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Er, yes, since each of us only has one heart
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> 'cause we're not The Doctor... 😉
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Unless you are the Doctor
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:54 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:56 PM EDT] <KK> My sister has had one for decades. The chronic lymphocytic leukemia is fr more worrying, though they've got it nicely under control.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I have no memory of going to medical school, so I'm sure I'm not the doctor!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:28:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hope you will soon be over the pneumonia and feeling bettre. Which one of them is treating the pneumonia?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:29:50 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> The Hosp ran tonnes of antibiotics into my arm for 7 days.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:30:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Eek!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:30:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Ouch
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:30:39 PM EDT] <KK> But you obviously needed it. And IV infusion is far easier on the tummy than oral meds.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:31:16 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, first morning in, I woke up to a nurse sticking my hand! She tried 5 times & couldn't get it and I was just saying "OUCH!"
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:31:43 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> True, KK, much easier
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:31:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Had that problem too, once. Ouch!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:31:48 PM EDT] <KK> I think I'd draw the line at 3, and ask for another nurse to give it a try.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:31:51 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> No one should try 5 times. SHe needed to call someone else
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:32:17 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Finally she called the Charge Nurse who got it in one try on the other hand.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:32:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> They called on the anesthesiologist for me. She nailed it the first time
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:32:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I used to be on an IV team abd we never allowed more than 3 sticks
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:32:52 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, no fair causing the patient more pain!!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:33:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Plus it is really rough on the veins
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:33:20 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:33:36 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Bynw, big wedding or family only?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:34:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I remember the first nurse asking, "Is this bothering you?" "Oh no, I replied." GASP
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:34:14 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL! Jerusha!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:34:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I would have said 'it certainly is!"
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:34:35 PM EDT] <KK> Is it bothering you? Uh, that would be a yeppers!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:34:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> "No, I love having holes poked into my skin and veins"
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:35:09 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Oh, yes, me, too!! LOL!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:35:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> One does not want to annoy the nurse sticking you with the little needle...
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:35:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> ␝curls into fetal ball because she hates needles␝
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:35:32 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> No, hold very still unless you are going to get up and run.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:35:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Those IV needles/catheters are not that little
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:35:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Thought about that...
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:36:23 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I've never gotten a tattoo because I am not a fan of needless needles.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:36:24 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> My SIL the RN was PO'd.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:36:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nope, no tatoos for me
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:37:06 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> None here, either.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:37:14 PM EDT] <KK> Me either.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:37:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Nope
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:37:36 PM EDT] <bynw> same
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:37:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I ended up with 12 holes in my ears, but no tatts
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:38:05 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I tried extra ear piercings but they didn't work out for me.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:38:07 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I'm wondering why they use the hand and not the arm, which is a much bigger target
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:38:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> 12 Holes?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:38:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> 7 in my left ear, 5 in my right
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:38:34 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> They already had an infusion IV in the elbow
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:39:05 PM EDT] <The_Bee> no piercings, thank you, but I'm considering ear wraps.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:39:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> That would freak me out
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:39:19 PM EDT] <KK> The veins in the back of the hand are big, and often easier to hit, and are especially better than farther up the arm if the IV has to stay in for a while. Also, no need to worry about flexing.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:39:48 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I hate how the elbow ones start to hurt after a lot of flexing
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:39:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I figure if God wanted me to be full of holes he would have put them there.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:40:08 PM EDT] <KK> Just 2 holes in my ears.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:40:12 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> LOL!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:40:24 PM EDT] <KK> Extra ones, that is.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:40:39 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Old joke:  Would you rather die or have seven holes in your head?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:40:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I used to work at an earring store, and I'd let the new girls practice ear-piercing on me.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:41:01 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> You're brave!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:41:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Eek. Nezz
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:41:09 PM EDT] <bynw> that's crazy
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:41:20 PM EDT] <KK> But you <did> want the extra holes, I take it.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:41:32 PM EDT] <bynw> i have one pierced ear and that's it.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:41:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> I was fine with them. I eventually took all the earrings out except the first set.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:41:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Best veins are between the wrist and the elbow. The bend of arm is bad because you have to keep it straight and it gets very uncomfortable.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:42:01 PM EDT] <The_Bee> bynw the pirate!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:42:30 PM EDT] <bynw> never liked the hoop earrings
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:42:43 PM EDT] <bynw> sometimes those were hard to get in and latched
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:42:46 PM EDT] <KK> Hoops can be a challenge.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:43:16 PM EDT] <bynw> studs or dangly kind when i had long hair but now its just studs
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:43:32 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Plus it's a pain if you go to brush your hair back and catch a finger in a hoop!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:43:42 PM EDT] <KK> True.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:44:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hoops are good for Halloween costumes. Not crazy about them at other times
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:44:19 PM EDT] <KK> Or when you go for a haircut. My stylist likes me to take mine out, so they don't catch.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:44:25 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I don't like the huge ones.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:44:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hoops and dangles can be a problem because I've seen confused or angry people grab hold of them and rip the out.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:44:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I like my hoops
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:06 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> OUch!!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:07 PM EDT] <KK> No, don't know how some people can wear huge hoops, like 4-6 inches across. I'd be paranoid that something was going to catch on them.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I like dangling earrings. Fortunately, nobody's tried to grab them out of my ears
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:15 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Do you have to wear earrings 24/7 so the holes won't close?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:28 PM EDT] <KK> It's best if you do.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:34 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I do.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Not after they've healed after the original piercing, though
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I take mine out at night.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I am usually wearing earrings, but not always
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:45:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I only wear my earrings occasionally, but my earring holes have never closed up.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:46:00 PM EDT] <bynw> i pretty much do and have for the last 30+ years that i've had a pierced ear
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:46:02 PM EDT] <KK> If you leave them out long enough, even when well healed, they can close.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:46:16 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I used to wear them almost daily when I was younger, but when my kids were little I had to stop wearing them for a few years.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:46:20 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I have one pair of non-pierce earrings.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:46:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> So far, I've worn earrings often enough that I don't have to worry about the hole closing
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:46:34 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> My left one used to get infected often but the last 10 yrs I've had so many antibiotics for other stuff that they gave up.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:46:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Me too
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:48:02 PM EDT] <The_Bee> One of my nieces had to give up pierced ears because she developed an allergy to metal.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:48:31 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> One crazy thing about the hosp was that my shoulder was hurting and they wouldn't give me a Tylenol but they gave me morphine for it.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:48:48 PM EDT] <KK> I was lucky and never got infections. But my mother was paranoid, didn't want me to get them pierced, and asked me to wait until I was 21--which I did--and then asked me to please go to a doctor to get them done. Which I did. No problems after that.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:49:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Once you've had earrings in for a year, the holes aren't going to close up. they may seem like they've closed, but I've never not been able to poke an earring through a hole that's seemed closed but had existed for over a year.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:49:31 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Daddy made me get it done by a doctor so I wouldn't get infections, but nobody told my left earlobe.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:49:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> There are thin clear plastic things that you can cover the earring post with, and it prevents the bare metal post and earring back from touching your skin. That can help if someone with a metal allergy doesn't want to give up wearing earrings.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:50:34 PM EDT] <KK> My earlobes got well and truly told, so never any infections. But I also cleaned them religiously for about the first 6 weeks.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:51:00 PM EDT] <The_Bee> That would help.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:51:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I went without earrings for the entirety of both children's preschool years, but once they reached school age I started wearing them again occasionally, and I didn't have to get my ears repierced to do so. I think it took me a little longer than usual to wiggle the earring posts in the first time, but the holes were still there.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:51:49 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Did you ask Duncan to bless them?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:51:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> Evie, that's always been my experience.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:52:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I hadn't made Duncan's reacquaintance yet when I went back to wearing earrings, though if I have any problems in future, I'll keep that in mind.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:53:12 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Maybe an exorcism would be better.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:53:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> If your ear is possessed rather than simply infected
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:54:22 PM EDT] <The_Bee> "Are you hearing demonic voices?"
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:54:48 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> "Ask for diamonds! Diamonds!"
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:54:50 PM EDT] <KK> Which leads one to wonder whether people in ancient times had troubles with earlobe infections. Much thicker wires going through the earlobes, too. Poor Kelson.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:55:10 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, the ruby always made me wince.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:55:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> We never hear he had trouble from the Eye of Rom, though. Jehana had problems with it, though!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:55:46 PM EDT] <KK> But not from trying to wear it!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:56:02 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Who was Rom?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:56:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> And Duncan had that green stingy stuff that I assume was a disinfectant
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:56:24 PM EDT] <bynw> Rom is a place not a who
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:56:27 PM EDT] <KK> Probably true, Shiral.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:56:37 PM EDT] <bynw> the 11 Kingdoms equivilant to Rome
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:56:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Might depend on the culture. Some of the ancient earring wires are still pretty thin like modern earring wire, and I've also seen modern earrings with pretty thick posts (compared to the super thin wire style) or a tapered shape that starts out super thin.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:56:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Morgan did the job so confidently, you'd think HE did a lot of ear piercing
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:57:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> He could play with my ears anytime
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:57:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> I thought that was Rum, but with a circonflexe over the u?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:57:37 PM EDT] <KK> I had some post earrings that were very thick, lovely enamel-work, but it hurt to put the posts in so I rarely wore them.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:57:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Since that's how it's spelled in the Codex when referring to the ancient city
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:58:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Jehana would DEFINITELY think your ears were possessed if you let Morgan play with them
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:58:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> She's just jealous
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:58:23 PM EDT] <KK> Jehana ws pretty repressed in a lot of areas.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:58:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I'd say that was a fair statement!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:59:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Duncan is discreetly leaving the room before anyone can think to ask him to play with their ears
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:59:03 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> I always wanted to give her a good shaking!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:59:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Duncan, come back here!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:59:33 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I wonder if the rest of Jehana's family shared her views.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:59:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Gigi is trying to block my view of the screen
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:59:49 PM EDT] <KK> And maybe a sharp slap or two.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [7:59:58 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Yes, she needed it!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:00:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I'd imagine sometimes Brion and Kelson wanted to give her a stiff shake now and then!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:00:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I wonder why her family hid her heritage from her and never told her about her powers
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:00:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Maybe it skipped a generation or two, and they didn't know she had inherited the trait?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:00:43 PM EDT] <KK> Artistic license. When I first wrote Jehana, I had no idea where the universe would go.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:00:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I have a feeling at least Brion did some exasperated shouting
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:00:58 PM EDT] <bynw> DFK that sounds like an interesting place for a fan fic story
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:01:44 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> There's a fanfic story about her getting over it, right?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:02:01 PM EDT] <KK> Somebody take it and run. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:02:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Barrett de Laney had a lot better luck making Jehana see reason than her husband and son ever did
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:02:22 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Will we ever get to meet her brother, King Ryol?  he's been mentioned, but I don't recall his ever appearing.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:02:32 PM EDT] <KK> And did Brion even know about it?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:02:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Maybe they planned to tell her, but after she came home from Convent School filled with all sorts of Anti-Deryni beliefs, they never got around to it, and then once she married Brion (King of a known anti-Deryni kingdom), they assumed what she didn't know wouldn't hurt her.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:02:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Thre are so many possibilities in the fanfic world. Working on Feyd and his ward cubes right now. Doing some research to try to find out more about the Order and feyd himself.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:02:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Was it her family, or was it that she spent some impressionable years in a convent in the care of an Abbess who was a notorious Deryni hater?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:03:35 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> That would make sense
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:04:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Or some part of Jehana that took "I am personally responsible for the agony of Christ" a little TOO much to heart?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:04:31 PM EDT] <The_Bee> The abbess seems a likely culprit.  After all, Jehana's family were also Deryni.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:04:52 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Curious about Jehana's mother...
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:04:53 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Maybe they were non-practicing
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:04:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Wherever she learned it, I don't think that anti-Deryni sentiment is necessarily the view of all of Bremagne society or even of their church, since in the Codex it appears Cardiel was also educated there before ending up in Gwynedd, and he certainly shows no anti-Deryni biases.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:05:16 PM EDT] <KK> Ummm, I'm hearing trickles of a program on PBS about the Boleyns that I wanted to catch, so I'm going to sign off now. But Zoom next week, at our usual earlier time. Looking forward to that!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:05:32 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> And isn't the other brother's wife from Bremagne, too?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:05:37 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Bye KK! Havea good week.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:05:39 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz> night KK, enjoy your show 🙂 And you're week
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:05:49 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> Bye, KK! Good to see you!!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:05:50 PM EDT] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:05:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Evie the Verbose> Bye, KK!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:06:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Are you not going to be at DragonCon next week, KK?
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:06:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Bye KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:06:07 PM EDT] <KK> Nighters, all. And Healing to all!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:06:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Night KK. Enjoy your program. Look forward to zoom next week
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:06:21 PM EDT] <HoundMistress> You, too!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:07:02 PM EDT] <KK> Nope, canceled out on Dragoncon. I'm doing intensive physio for knee and balance issues, and just wasn't up for the stress of air travel plus the con. Next year, perhaps.
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:07:18 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Okay, then Zoom it is!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:07:25 PM EDT] <KK> Nighters!
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:07:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Night, KK
[Sunday, August 28, 2022] [8:07:33 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client).
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James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)