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KK Chat -- 5 December 2021

Started by DesertRose, December 05, 2021, 07:30:33 PM

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[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:02:29 PM EST] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:02:39 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Good afternoon Katherine
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:02:42 PM EST] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:02:42 PM EST] <fenix> hi kk
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:02:54 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> How are you this evening?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:03:34 PM EST] <KK> Tired, but accomplished a good deal this weekend, culling personal correspondence files from family. Most will be shredded.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:04:09 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Oh, that's got to be hard. I mean, shredding personal stuff.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:05:06 PM EST] <KK> It was interesting to be reminded of stuff that was going on so long ago, back as far as 1991, but there's no point in saving it. I certainly won't need to read it again.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:06:16 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I guess that's the way to keep your stuff organized. I still have letters from the early- to -mid-80s.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:06:56 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I even found some correspondence from you a few months back... from when we invited you to Life, The Universe, and Everything back in the 90s.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:07:24 PM EST] <KK> That was Utah?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:07:29 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Yes
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:07:41 PM EST] <KK> Yep. That was a good one!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:08:01 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I recall we told you to prepare for any weather, and we got it that year: snow, sun, rain, wind...
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:08:21 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> But it was a good symposium. We had you and Roger Zelazny.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:08:25 PM EST] <KK> This correspondence was to and from my mother and my sister. Both of them, especially my mother, wrote loooong letters.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:08:55 PM EST] Join The_Bee (The_Bee@owirc-4v3.tb3.61.73.IP) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:08:58 PM EST] <KK> Pretty part of the country, though.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:01 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Bittersweet memories, I expect...
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:05 PM EST] <KK> Hi, Bee.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:07 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hello Bee
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:14 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> hello everyone
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:18 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hello Shiral
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:26 PM EST] <KK> Yeah, both of them were going through some....interesting times.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:28 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi Nezz Hi KK and all
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:52 PM EST] <The_Bee> Bitttersweet memories about what?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:09:58 PM EST] <KK> I occasionally wrote long letters as well.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:10:19 PM EST] <KK> Old family correspondence going back to about 1991.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:10:30 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Seems like email has killed the art of long letters. And text has made it even worse.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:10:43 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> A long letter gives people something to enjoy in the mail other than catalogs and bills
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:11:10 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Shiral: Truth. Remember being a kid and getting so excited when you got the ocasional letter in the mail?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:11:21 PM EST] <The_Bee> My siblings and I have a roound robin letter going around. I need to get it in the mail.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:11:41 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Yes. Although sometimes my father's letters weren't all that fun to read
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:12:17 PM EST] <The_Bee> he liked to spread bad news?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:20 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Hello.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:31 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi DR, and hi to your company!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:32 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Hi y'all
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:40 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi DR andcompany
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:40 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> and Hi CatWin
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:40 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I still like to write letters, because it is fun to get "real" mail, and it's fun to send.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:44 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> He did a lot of grumbling during his last years of teaching at Stanford. He was not on good terms with the department head. His retirement was also not on the happiest terms, more like an iron handshake. "Retire or...." But he could sure sound whiny, sometimes.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:13:58 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi Cat, DR and everyone.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:14 PM EST] <KK> Hi, Shiral.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:23 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> snaps fingers and produces peppermint hot chocolate and Christmas cookies
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:25 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi KK
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:34 PM EST] <DR_has_company> My company is taking a post-supper nap; she didn't get much sleep last night, and I told her that if she wants to nap, she should nap.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:41 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> yay, Christmas cookies!! 🙂
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:41 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Naps are goooooood.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:45 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Yay cookies!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:49 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Naps are lovely
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:56 PM EST] <KK> Naps can be very good.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I can happily say I can now see y'all!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:14:58 PM EST] <fenix> i can't chat fast as i am on my phone
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:10 PM EST] <DR_has_company> How are you feeling, fenix?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:19 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I know you said you're finally not feverish, so that's good.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I don't know why I resisted them so much at age five or so. I didn't realize it was because my MOM needed a rest from me
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:25 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Congratulations on the bionic eyes, Cat 🙂
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:30 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi Fenix
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:42 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hiya Fenix
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:47 PM EST] <KK> Bionic eyes! Yay!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:15:51 PM EST] <DR_has_company> My mom told my day care not to let me nap because then I wouldn't go to bed at bedtime.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:16:08 PM EST] <DR_has_company> So everyone else napped and I got to sit quietly with a book. Win-win, even then. ;)
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:16:19 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Clever girl, DR
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:16:39 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Thanks Nezz. I'm still trying to get used to not needing glasses except to read.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:16:50 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I would not, in fact, go to bed at bedtime if I had napped in the afternoon, so it had the handy benefit of being true.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:16:56 PM EST] <fenix> finally no fever. throat is still a sore and recovering nicely from this annoying bug i picked up
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:17:08 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Carys says hi.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:17:09 PM EST] <KK> Ain't it grand? Re glasses, I mean.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:17:18 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Glad you're on the mend, Fenix
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:17:32 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Shelly says hi back to Carys
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:17:43 PM EST] * DR_has_company makes a cup of tea with honey and lemon juice for fenix's throat.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:17:56 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Fenix, being sick sucks so much. Very happy you're feeling better. 🙂
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:14 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hullo Jerusha
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:21 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:23 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Everyone!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:25 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Carys is presently working as ambassador on behalf of Catkind; my friend who is visiting me is mostly a dog person (primarily because she grew up with dogs and just doesn't know much about cats).
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:27 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Hi Jerusha.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:33 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> So true, KK! Maybe someday I'll stop trying to push up my glasses. 50+ years is a habit that's going to take time.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:18:51 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Hi Jerusha.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:19:03 PM EST] <DR_has_company> But Carys is enough to convert anyone to being a Cat Person. She is sweet and soft and purrs more or less all the time.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:19:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I'm sure Carys takes her responsibility very seriously.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:19:27 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Yup
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:20:38 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> My two are happy to leave The ambassadorial duties to someone else. 🤣
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:21:59 PM EST] <KK> Sniff. No kitty here yet, but I'm thinking about it.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:22:40 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Puppy will miss having you to himself. 🙂
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:22:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Put an invitation on the Astral Plane, KK. Maybe Adam Sinclair can help send the right kitty your way
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:23:37 PM EST] <KK> I heard about a pair who had recently lost their person, but no response yet to my request for more information.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:24:47 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hopefully you haven't heard more because they've got a new forever home already. Poor babies... sniff
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:25:02 PM EST] <KK> I hope that's the case.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:25:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We might start looking for a new puppy after the new year.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:26:02 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Jerusha, you puppyless at the moment?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:26:27 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes, unfortunately. Have been for the last two years or so.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:26:51 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Any particular kind you looking for?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:28:07 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Looking for a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. Unfortunately, with the pandemic, many breeders have waiting lists of over two years, if they are having litters at all right now. You don't find many Cavaliers in shelters.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:28:36 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> But I'm willing to wait for the right dog. It's a long term commitment
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:28:46 PM EST] <The_Bee> or any purebreds, I imagine.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:28:48 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> It sure is
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:29:56 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Last time I checked, there were no dragons available, either.😀
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:30:14 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Oh man, I would so love a little dragon!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:30:36 PM EST] <DR_has_company> A travel-sized pet dragon would be awesome.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:30:44 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> "Let me roast that hamburger for you. No problem!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:30:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I think I'll skip one, the fire hazard you know!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:30:59 PM EST] <DR_has_company> An actual full-size dragon would be an issue in a one-bedroom flat. ;)
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:31:04 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Although a riding-dragon would also be great, but probably a little more expensive to care
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:31:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Or start a "blackened food" restaurant!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:31:32 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Don't have to plug in a dragon to recharge it
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:31:52 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> No, but they do require a lot of meat to keep happy
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:31:55 PM EST] <DR_has_company> But you do have to feed it.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:32:00 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> If people are skittish about cats and dogs, renting an apartment when you have a dragon would be a problem!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:32:04 PM EST] <The_Bee> `"Beware of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good flame-broiled."
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:32:09 PM EST] <DR_has_company> And I don't think I can order Dragon Chow from Chewy. :D
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:32:38 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I can just see the landlord now. "Well, I have this unusual pet..."
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:32:38 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Maybe if you live by a very large lake or the sea, they can fish enough to keep them content.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:32:44 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> "I said the plumbing is problematical. Fix it or a get a visit from my dragon!"
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:08 PM EST] <KK> Probably not. These days, can't even order the 16 lb. sacks of Beneful; just the bigger ones and smaller ones.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:14 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I can see someone bringing up backyard dragons for vote in a city council meeting.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:17 PM EST] <Laurna> Dragons! Is someone talking about dragons?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:26 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Yes, yes we are
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:28 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Me????
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:28 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> We are, aparently!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:35 PM EST] <Laurna> LOve it
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:37 PM EST] <The_Bee> Do you want one?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:43 PM EST] <KK> And Cavalier King Charles Spaniels.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:33:48 PM EST] <Laurna> Oh yes
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:34:10 PM EST] <Laurna> I have those. but not feeding those to a dreagon
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:34:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Would you like a travel-sized dragon, or a riding dragon?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:34:21 PM EST] <KK> You have any spares, or litters on the way?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:34:31 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I mentioned that I will start looking for a Cavalier puppy after the new year. But if I can't find one, I could look for a dragon
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:34:42 PM EST] <Laurna> Sorry no I need a new female
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:34:58 PM EST] <Laurna> Travel size would be easier to feed
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:35:33 PM EST] <Laurna> I have three nice males that would mske good dads
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:35:48 PM EST] <Laurna> cavaliers that is
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:35:51 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> So you just need a female dragon to breed them...
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:35:53 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> 😉
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:35:56 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hard without a female
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:35:59 PM EST] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:36:36 PM EST] <Laurna> It workd for the donkey in shrek
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:36:51 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Well sure, if you don't mind a dragon-mutt
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:36:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I'd prefer a pure-breed
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:36:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> But you could end up with a puppy like Donkey!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:36:59 PM EST] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:37:07 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> A King Charles travel sized dragon?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:37:26 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I lie: I'd be perfectly happy with a dragon-mutt.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:37:39 PM EST] <Laurna> Love it would be a tri colored Neverending story dragon
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:37:45 PM EST] <KK> I've never had any paarticular hankering for a dragon.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:38:05 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> But awesome if there is an intruder
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:38:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Is taht because you already have so much magic?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:38:10 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I think you'd have to be Hagrid from Potterverse to want one
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:38:22 PM EST] <Laurna> Not even after friending Anne McAphrey/
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:39:00 PM EST] <KK> The Dragonrider books were never my favorites of hers. I liked The Ship Who Sang--one of her very best, I think.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:39:25 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I liked that one, too. But I loved the dragons
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:39:56 PM EST] <KK> I did like the dragons in Her Majesty's Dragons, and that series.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:39:58 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I remember a Pennsic many years ago one of the vendors had a purse-sized, animatronic dragon. It looked real!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:40:02 PM EST] <Laurna> I like those too but you know I read pern and then Deryni and then Pern and cAMBER every year for 20 years'
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:40:46 PM EST] <Laurna> Oh a little Tolken every other year too
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:40:54 PM EST] <KK> I'm presently re-reading the Adept books; just finishing Dagger Magic. I'd forgotten a lot of the details. Debby and I make a really good team!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:40:56 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I still have my Pern paperbacks; they did not go when we downsized
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:41:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I've got to read Tolkien for a writing class by this Saturday.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:41:17 PM EST] <Laurna> Damn YES!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:41:27 PM EST] <KK> How much of Tolkien?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:41:33 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I read Hobbit every year. Only missed four years since 1973.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:42:07 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Which one, Nezz?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:42:47 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> LOTR. Fortuantely I've read them plenty of times, so I'm doing a lot of skimming.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:43:42 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I'm due for LOTR reread, but I got two Alison Weir books for (early) Christmas from the Pod-Child, so I want to read them.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:43:46 PM EST] <KK> Lots of skimming, if you have to read all 3 by Saturday.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:04 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Alison Weir?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:23 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Biographer/historian.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:40 PM EST] <KK> What does she write?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:42 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Lots of skimming, yes. But I started last week.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:45 PM EST] <The_Bee> I don't often re-read. Too many good books I haven't read even once.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Tolkien is absorbing, but not a quick read
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:56 PM EST] <DR_has_company> She writes some fiction, too, but what I got for Christmas were The Wars of the Roses and The Children of Henry VIII.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:44:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Which books, DR?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:45:07 PM EST] <KK> Can't be a quick read, if you want to absorb all the detail.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:45:15 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> If I don't want to reread a book at least once, the author has only been partially successful, as far as I'm concerned
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:45:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Bee, just re-read KK's books, right? 🙂
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:45:31 PM EST] <DR_has_company> My mom saw Children and asked if I didn't already have that one, and I said, no, I already have The Six Wives of Henry VIII.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:45:35 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> He was certainly fond of long songs and poetry, Tolkien I mean
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:45:50 PM EST] <KK> And inventing languages.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:45:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> any good historical fiction? That's on my sister's wish list for Christmas.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:46:06 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I also have her biographies of Eleanor of Aquitaine, Katherine Swynford, and Elizabeth I.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:46:07 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> He sure loved Elves. Me I like Hobbits, more
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:46:21 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Captive Queen is the novel Weir wrote about Eleanor of Aquitaine.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:46:23 PM EST] <KK> I like the elves.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:46:34 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Underestimate them at your peril--Hobbits can rise to the occasion when they really need to.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:46:36 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I do love me a good elf. Haven't managed to fit any into any of my own stories, yet...
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:46:53 PM EST] <DR_has_company> The Lady Elizabeth is her book about Elizabeth Tudor before she was Queen. Innocent Traitor is Weir's novel about Lady Jane Grey.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:47:09 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I didn't know she'd written those. I'll have to see if Kindle has them.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:47:12 PM EST] <DR_has_company> (The Lady Elizabeth is a novel.)
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:47:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Poor Lady Jane
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:47:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> They are beautiful and speak beautifully and I'd love to attend an Elvish picnic sometime, you can bet the food would be good! I'd love to stay at least three months in Rivendell
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:47:24 PM EST] <KK> I think I've read Captive Queen.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:47:49 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Lady Jane Grey got a bad hand of cards for sure.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:47:52 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But sometimes I think the Elves can verge on the snooty about their fellow residents of Middle Earth
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:00 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Verge on?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Poor Lady Jane... she was--what, 17?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:12 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I love me some Elves, but they are absolutely snobs.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I'd rather spend three months in Erebor.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:25 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I was try to be tactful, DR. =o)
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:30 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> trying, that is
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:32 PM EST] <DR_has_company> LOL
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:47 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Of course, if you read the Siilmarilian, the elves are just plain maniacal.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:48:47 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I'd be happy to spend time in Lothlorien.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:49:13 PM EST] <Laurna> I always thought the aelves were above themselves. Perfered the hobbits
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:49:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I tried to rea the Sillmarillian. I found it impenetrable
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:49:39 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Me too, Laurna.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:49:45 PM EST] <KK> I'd heard that, Shiral. Never attempted the read.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:49:48 PM EST] <Laurna> I read it but that was a long time ago and not been reread
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:50:10 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> It's definitely a tough slog. I just bought it so I can read it again and try to understand it better.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:50:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I think I got through the first two pages and thought sorry, Tolkien.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:50:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> The foods definitely better in Hobbiton! Too much green food in Rivendell.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:50:38 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> LOL
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:50:39 PM EST] <KK> Wasn't that actually written by his son, based on notes he left?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:50:41 PM EST] <Laurna> I just got a book one atolkiens notes, not tried opening it yet
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:50:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But yeah. I'd rather live in Bag End than on a Flet in Lothlorien
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:51:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Second breakfast....I could do that
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:51:36 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Elevenses, tea, supper....
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:52:14 PM EST] <Laurna> The Fall of Gondolin is the one by his son but I hve not read it yet
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:52:17 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> It's a wonder Hobbits aren't as rotund as Dwarves!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:52:32 PM EST] <Laurna> LOL
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:52:50 PM EST] <DR_has_company> They are certainly not skinny! ;D
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:52:51 PM EST] <Laurna> Often Quote time for Second breakfast
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:53:00 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Nobody ever wants to go on a moonlight picnic with dwarves. But you sure want them around if something needs fixing
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:53:13 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I'll bet Bombur could have done well in Hobbiton. They would have loved him and he would have loved them.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:53:38 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Bombur did pretty well at the Lonely Mountain
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:53:45 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> volunteers to go on a moonlight picnic with Kili
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:04 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But whatbout Fili??
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:14 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> The actor who played Bomber is an accomplished chef, or so I hear.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:14 PM EST] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:17 PM EST] <The_Bee> What book is Bombur from?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hobbit
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I'll be happy to go on a moonlight picnic with both
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:45 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I'll take Thorin, especially as portrayed by Richard Armitage. :D
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:54:53 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> You can have the boys, I want Thorin!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:55:00 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Great minds, Catherine!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:55:10 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Yep!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:55:21 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Richard Armitage is very easy on the eyes.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:55:24 PM EST] <Laurna> I did not like the Hobbit until I saw the movies, that changed the way I saw the Characters to the better
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:55:42 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Thorin was too stiff for me. Balin is more my kind of guy
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:56:03 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Richard Armitage's smile can make the world disappear!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:56:45 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Richard is very nice, true... but Aiden and Dean... smiles dreamily
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:56:57 PM EST] <Laurna> agreed
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:57:09 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> 🤣
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:58:11 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Aiden Turner is also very easy on the eyes.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:58:37 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I'll also lay claim to Thranduil. Lee Pace is a pretty, pretty human.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:59:04 PM EST] <Laurna> Did anyone see halmark Castle for christmas
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:59:15 PM EST] <Laurna> A scotish love story
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:59:30 PM EST] <The_Bee> theater or tv movie?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:59:56 PM EST] <Laurna> The lord of the castle A duke had the looks of an older Alaric descendtant if you ask me
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [7:59:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Tv
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:00:02 PM EST] <Laurna> Netflex
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:00:13 PM EST] <KK> Yes, saw it.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:00:30 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> @KK, do you ever picture celebrities as any of your characters?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:00:34 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Oh, I changed back into my "house clothes," but earlier today I was wearing Corwyn colors, black leggings and a long green top.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:00:40 PM EST] <KK> I've been bingeing on Hallmark Christmas movies.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:00:43 PM EST] <The_Bee> There are too many Christmas movies. It's hard to sort out the good ones.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:00:57 PM EST] <Laurna> Silly with lots or plot holes but It made me think of You KK buying a castle
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:01:23 PM EST] <KK> I used to do tht, but the actors kept aging out. I no longer particularly bother.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:01:45 PM EST] <The_Bee> The Godwink Christmas movies are pretty good.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:02:34 PM EST] <KK> Anything with Royal or Prince in the title usually is interesting.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:03:00 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I don't know why you would think so, KK 😏
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:03:05 PM EST] <The_Bee> I like a touch of supernatural.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:03:09 PM EST] <Laurna> I am going through about one a night of christmas movies
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:03:24 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> 😉
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:04:40 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Charlie Brown Christmas is till my favorite.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:04:50 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:04:52 PM EST] <The_Bee> There are MANY versions of A Christmas Carol.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:05:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I like the original
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:05:07 PM EST] <KK> I think I did 3 yesterday, while I was excavating in files.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:05:34 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I misread that as "excavating in flies"
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:05:52 PM EST] <Laurna> Went out to a Tea dinner last night where they did live actors parts of A christmas carol, The entertainment was good but the food was loosey
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:05:53 PM EST] <The_Bee> Today I watched a 10-minute silent movie Christmas Carol.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> 10 minutes? How do they tell the story that quickly?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I'll watch The Lion In Winter multiple times between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:27 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Sipped the dialogue
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:29 PM EST] <The_Bee> no dialogue
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:40 PM EST] <KK> Love Lion in Winter.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:46 PM EST] <Laurna> That mmight be good to watch
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:47 PM EST] <KK> Also Becket and El Cid.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:06:48 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Skipped, I meant (rented fingers)
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:07:44 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Havent seen Lion in Winter in years, but wow, what a messed up Royal Family Christmas!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:08:14 PM EST] <Laurna> true
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:08:16 PM EST] <DR_has_company> YES! Love The Lion in Winter.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:08:47 PM EST] <DR_has_company> And for the annual Christmas silly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRhjWdr-LAA
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:09:02 PM EST] <The_Bee> One of my historical movies was Beckett
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:09:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Oh love the silent monks!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:09:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> lol, cute!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:09:16 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Spiral, that family was screwed up 24/7/365!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:09:45 PM EST] <DR_has_company> I love Eleanor of Aquitaine as a figure from history, but living with her must have been . . . a lot.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:10:16 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> And twice as much on Christmas. Henry II "I had to lock you up, you lead too many civil wars against me." Eleanor: "And I damned near won the last one."
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:10:32 PM EST] <The_Bee> I'm listening to the Mannheim Steamroller Christmas concert.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:10:33 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> "Hush dear, mother's fighting."
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:10:39 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Fascinating to study many centuries later, probably a nightmare to deal with on the day-to-day.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:10:47 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Oh Bee, I hope you're enjoying that. 🙂
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:10:54 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Well behaved women rarely make history! Had to have been written about Eleanor!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:11:03 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Mannheim Steamroller is always worth listening to.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:11:07 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Oh yes, love Eleanor
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:11:27 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Maybe Gwynedd needs an Eleanor, not that I'd presume, of course....
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:11:40 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Not to be a pedantic pain in the butt, but that quote about well-behaved women is slightly out of context; it's about the invisible ways in which women's work keeps the world turning.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:11:50 PM EST] <Laurna> Not in Kelson's time please
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:12:02 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Without history making a note of it, but we'd all be up the creek sans paddle without it being done.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:12:05 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Laurna, lol
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:12:35 PM EST] <The_Bee> doing the Grinch now
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:12:37 PM EST] <KK> Love the Silent Monks.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:12:39 PM EST] <DR_has_company> If I ever get back to writing it, one of my characters in the 1366 story is loosely based on Eleanor.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:13:24 PM EST] <Laurna> DR that might be fun\
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:13:26 PM EST] <DR_has_company> So no, well after Kelson's time.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:14:04 PM EST] <Laurna> Let the women excert their power
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:14:35 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I've always wondered how William Marshal dealt with Eleanor's "interest" in her sons' affairs.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:14:49 PM EST] <DR_has_company> My guy that's lined up to be the next Abp of Valoret is kind of a latter-day Thomas Cardiel mixed with Matthew Parker.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:14:50 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> DR, to shorten a joke: Guy comes home from work, house is a wreck, kids are filthy and screaming, he goes into the bedroom and finds his wife reading a book and eating bonbons. "What happened?" he asks. She says "you know how you always ask me what I did all day when yo ucome home from work? Well, today I didn't do it."
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:14:51 PM EST] <The_Bee> How did men get the idea that they should rule the world?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:14:55 PM EST] <Laurna> Of course Evie Wrote A queen Haldane on the thrown in modern time
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:15:03 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Yup, Nezz.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:15:23 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Yup, Sophia.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:15:24 PM EST] <The_Bee> who threw her?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:15:26 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Never take your wife for granted...
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:15:58 PM EST] <Laurna> OH and HAPPY BIRTHDAY< Evie!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:16:10 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Well, the bomb that took out her mom, brother, sister, sister-in-law, niece, and nephew could be said to have thrown Sophia onto the throne of Gwynedd.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:16:15 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Yup, happy Evie day!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:16:32 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Happy Evieday if you happen to see this, Evie!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:16:38 PM EST] <Laurna> Good start to a novel
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:16:54 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Started with a bang. Pretty literally.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:16:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Scary start
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:17:08 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Poor Revanne. I thought she was going to jump the Pond to murder Evie for that!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:17:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Happy Birthday, Evie
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:17:18 PM EST] <Laurna> Poor Morgan Under all that rubble for days
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:17:29 PM EST] <Laurna> LOL DR
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:18:00 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> revnne found it most disturbing
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:18:04 PM EST] <DR_has_company> She did.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:18:12 PM EST] <Laurna> I can understand that
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:18:36 PM EST] <DR_has_company> Regicide at all, never mind on that scale, is a thing that will wig out a monarchist Brit, especially one who remembers all too well when the Troubles were in full swing.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:19:13 PM EST] <Laurna> Some things shall remain soley on the page
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:19:49 PM EST] <KK> So we hope.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:19:58 PM EST] <Laurna> Actually most things writers write need to stay soley on the page or in film
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:22 PM EST] <Laurna> But that is why we like to read
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:28 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Oh yes for sure. Don't we all torture our characters in ways we'd rather not live through ourselves?
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:35 PM EST] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Gotta go deal with eye drops so I'm going to say goodnight. See y'all next week.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:43 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> night Cat
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:49 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Night, Cat
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:49 PM EST] <Laurna> Good Night CW
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:52 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nighters, CW
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:58 PM EST] <KK> Nighters, Cat of the Bionic Eyes.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:20:59 PM EST] <The_Bee> Good night, Catherine. Have a good week.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:21:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Put your characters through hell--it makes for a more interesting story
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:13 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But keep it fictional!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:28 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Yeah. None of that stuff needs to translate to real life. 🙂
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:33 PM EST] <KK> I think I'm also going to sign off. Tired after culling all those files. Dreamed a lot about family members last night, and probably will again tonight.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:47 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Night, KK have a good week
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:53 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Dream of Deryni, too...
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:53 PM EST] <Laurna> yah until the other characters in the story do that to your character and you have to figure out how to keep them alive
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:54 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Goodnight KK, and I hope you have a wonderful week and happy dreams of family.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:56 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nighters, KK. Hope you sleep well enough
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:22:59 PM EST] <Laurna> That was the game
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:23:03 PM EST] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:23:03 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> And I'm totally not hinting. Nuh-uh...
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:23:06 PM EST] <Laurna> Good night KK
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:23:30 PM EST] <KK> Nighters, all.
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:23:39 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Good hint, Shiral!
[Sunday, December 5, 2021] [8:23:39 PM EST] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)