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KK Chat -- 29 August 2021

Started by DesertRose, August 29, 2021, 07:22:18 PM

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[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:02:53 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:02:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> It's really fun to stand outside in a warm downpour wearing a nice raincoat
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:02:59 PM EDT] <The_Bee> HI KK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:03:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Hello KK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:03:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hello KK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:03:04 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, people.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:03:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:03:28 PM EDT] <The_Bee> How was your week?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:03:45 PM EDT] <KK> Busy. But good.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:04:10 PM EDT] <Laurna> Busy is good
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:04:13 PM EDT] <KK> Been glued to the tv the past few days, first for Afghanistan and now for Ida.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:04:27 PM EDT] <Laurna> That storm came up fast
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:04:33 PM EDT] <bynw> hi KK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:04:43 PM EDT] <KK> And it's crawling now.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:04:45 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Do you expect Ida to come near you?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:05:03 PM EDT] <KK> No, though we may get some fringe remnants later in the week.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:05:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Hi y'all
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:05:23 PM EDT] <KK> They're saying it could turn out to be worse than Katrina.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:05:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi CW!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:05:36 PM EDT] <Laurna> Doctor M said he was Evacuated from New Orleans. and the storm looks to be going by Evie's house later
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:05:39 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Hello CW
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:05:40 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi CW!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:06:09 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Remind me--who is Doctor M?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:06:13 PM EDT] <KK> Summer fun. Not.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:07:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I'll be glad when summer ends! Too hot for my liking.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:07:15 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm not sure DoctorM has been to chat much, but they write fanfic.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:07:26 PM EDT] <Laurna> DoctorM has writen some good fan fic on the forum
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:07:52 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I should check it out.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:09:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> Only 96 here now, but some clouds have come in. It was supposed to be 105 today. I am greatful to the hurrican in mexico for our clouds.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:09:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> You're welcome. ;) (The hurricane in Mexico is called Hurricane Nora.)
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:09:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> nice
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:09:59 PM EDT] <Laurna> That is a seperate cat 1 huricane I didn't know the name. LOL Nora, Thank you
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:11:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Everyone seems to be asleep. Must be a pleasant sunday afternoonfor all
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:11 PM EDT] <Laurna> My puppies are snorring at my feet.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, I'm eating my supper.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Sounds quite pleasant for the two of you
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> 🙂
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:43 PM EDT] <Laurna> I made fudge, I shall pass some around
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Ooooooooo!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:56 PM EDT] <KK> This has been a squirrely summer, with wildfires, heat waves, rain and thunderstorms, rain and thunderstorms... Global warming?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:12:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yum!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Txting with my niece, haven't talked to her in 9 years.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:12 PM EDT] <Laurna> Wow
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:16 PM EDT] <bynw> fudge? yummm
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:18 PM EDT] <Laurna> Time to talk
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:27 PM EDT] <KK> Good on the reconnect!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> I actually had the energy to make treats this past week. I made krispy treats with caramel on the inside and chocolate drizzled on top
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:35 PM EDT] <Laurna> I brother hand his family came over yesterday.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:40 PM EDT] * bynw uses the nearest transfer portal to california to get some fudge
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:45 PM EDT] <Laurna> my niece is starting college this next week
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:13:49 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Are you mostly done with moving, KK? Still working on the sale of your old house?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:14:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> a plat of fudge is on the Portal for you
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:14:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> mmm, freshly portalled fudge...
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:14:52 PM EDT] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:14:53 PM EDT] <KK> Still getting stuff put away, and sometimes further purged. And clearing the old house.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:15:19 PM EDT] <Laurna> That is a job that sounds endless
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:15:27 PM EDT] <KK> I hope it isn't.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:15:30 PM EDT] <The_Bee> You were looking for a smaller desk, weren't you?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:15:32 PM EDT] <Laurna> Agreed
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:15:52 PM EDT] <KK> Yep. But gotta clear the office before I can do anything baout that.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:16:17 PM EDT] <Laurna> My mom and my brother looked at all my books yesterday and said, I hope you don;'t plan to move anytime soon.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:16:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> 🤣
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:16:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Heh
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:16:38 PM EDT] <The_Bee> LOL
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:16:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> You'll have to get some of those boxes from Lowe's that I used, with the "load of bricks" remark on the checklist.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:16:56 PM EDT] <Laurna> LOL
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:17:00 PM EDT] * bynw still needs to get some books that are being stored at his sons house
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:17:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> That's what Office Depot is for: great sized boxes for moving books
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:17:48 PM EDT] <Laurna> I like the "Load of Bricks" that is about how much a box of books wieghs
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:18:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> https://imgur.com/a/V20t7lY
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:18:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Nice! lol
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:03 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> 🤣🤣
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:05 PM EDT] <KK> The trick is to use boxes no larger than a file box, for books. They also have cutout handles.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi everyonr!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I think that box actually held my jewelry boxes or something, because I don't keep my books in my bedroom. (The box is on my dresser.)
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Those are the ones I like. Perfect for boxes: not too heavy.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:30 PM EDT] <Laurna> 😜
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> perfect for books
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> hello Jerusha
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hey Jerusha.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:55 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Jerusha!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:19:57 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:20:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> hello Jerusha
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:20:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:20:47 PM EDT] <Laurna> Any ventures out on to your lake this summer. Jerusha?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:21:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We have a squall line coming through. So if I disappear, it's not my fautl
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:21:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Well, not at the moment, Laruna!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:21:27 PM EDT] <Laurna> Storming everywhere
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:21:53 PM EDT] <bynw> no storms here
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> Good to hear
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:07 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Most of my books are on Kindle, hard copies are mostly reference books. ie. heraldry and genealogy.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Kindle's nice: I can read in bed without bothering the ol' man
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We have a scary squall line coming. Tornado watch in effect.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> 👍
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:52 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Oh fun
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:56 PM EDT] <KK> They've been warning us about imminent thunderstorms all afternoon, but nothing yet of note. We did have a doozie last night, with thunder and heavy rain.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I almost typed "Tomato watch"
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:58 PM EDT] <Laurna> If a book is an e-book, is soon forget that I have it. Only the reall covered pages attract my attention when I want to read
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:22:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Are you in the midwest, Jerusha?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:23:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It's overcast here, and it rained yesterday; I got caught in a thunderstorm coming out of the grocery store.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:23:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Be safe, Jerusha!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:23:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Northern Ontario
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:23:33 PM EDT] <bynw> LOL Tomato watch LOL
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:23:41 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Fortunately, the rain was WARM. I wonder if my clothes are dry yet, because I did get well drenched.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:23:45 PM EDT] <Laurna> I like Tomato watch. I have been looking for the fat green tomato bug that I saw eating my plants last week
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:23:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Incoming rotten tomatoes
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:24:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I remember hearing a story about a little kid who thought tornadoes were red because they got "tomato" and "tornado" confused.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:24:27 PM EDT] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:25:06 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I was terrified of them as a kid, because of The Wizard of Oz. Every time I heard an airplane go overhead (and we lived fairly near the airport/Air Force base), I would wig.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:25:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I wasn't allowed to watch that movie for quite some years.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:25:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Oh dear
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:25:20 PM EDT] <The_Bee> giving bad reviews of your favorite movies
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:26:00 PM EDT] <KK> Speaking of Wizard of Oz, Wicked is on tonight at 9. Filmed Broadway play.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:26:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> The flying monkeys gave me the most concern
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:26:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> I was scared of The Wizard of Oz, but the thing that scared me was that hour glass. It freaked me out.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:26:18 PM EDT] <Laurna> as a kid I didn't even understand what a tornado was. they only happened ever on that movie
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:26:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Neat! What station?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:26:41 PM EDT] <KK> One of the networks, I think, though it could be PBS.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:26:56 PM EDT] <Laurna> Broadway play? wish I had network tb
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:27:00 PM EDT] <Laurna> tv
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:27:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> I thought that was a just music, not the play. Yes, PBS.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:27:52 PM EDT] <KK> A musical.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <bynw> only on discord ....
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:11 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I wish I could ditch cable. I've tried several antennas, butI get ZERO channels on them all.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:13 PM EDT] <KK> Maybe it is just the music.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Gah!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:28 PM EDT] <bynw> that post i made will only be see on discord ... its of flying monkeys
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I need my dragon!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Mighty ugly fllying monkeys!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:28:49 PM EDT] <Laurna> You have a dragon?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:29:02 PM EDT] <KK> I have a Flying Monkey figurine that I gave to Scott, and now it's mine.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:29:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Several, but they are all stuffed
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:29:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Stuffed are nice, but a real one would be useful now and again. Even little.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:29:35 PM EDT] <Laurna> I have stuffed ones too. and several resin
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:29:59 PM EDT] <Laurna> Fire breathing might be a complication
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:30:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Y Ddraig Goch is my favourite
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:30:36 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Is that Welsh?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:30:39 PM EDT] <Laurna> the red one?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:30:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Only a complication if you don't have marshmallows
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:30:50 PM EDT] <Laurna> LOL
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:30:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes, the red dragon of Wales
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:31:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> I would arrange to always have marshmallows
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:31:18 PM EDT] <bynw> here is where everyone can see it: https://rhemuthcastle.com/images/flyingmonkey.gif
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:31:34 PM EDT] <The_Bee> as in Arthur Pendragon
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:31:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Scary monkeys
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:31:45 PM EDT] <Laurna> Stuff of night mares, Bynw
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:32:43 PM EDT] <bynw> i dont go for the whimpy flying monkeys ... i want the terrifying ones
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:33:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Who wants a wimpy flying monkey?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:33:16 PM EDT] <Laurna> If I can not cuddle and pet it, I don't want it.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:33:49 PM EDT] <bynw> well there is something that can be cuddled and petted that jumped into my chair behind me
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:33:51 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Here's my latest sewing project. https://imgur.com/a/C8C8Lqk
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:33:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Not thinking the flying monkey is terribly cuddly. "I love you: let me sink my teeth into your neck"
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:34:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> I expect dragons would be smooth like snakes.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:34:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys has been wanting a lot of cuddling and petting lately.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:34:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I've been teasing her about getting a baby sling since she wants to be in my lap at all times.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:34:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> DR, that's gorgeous!!!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:34:33 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Thank you!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:34:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I have gained weight since I got that jacket, and with all this mess around my health, I'm not sure if I'll be able to get it off.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:35:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Now that stopped the conversation!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:35:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> But I couldn't bear to donate that jacket, and I had that gold silk leftover from another project, so I decided it would work well for a back gore and gussets so I can wear my snazzy jacket again.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:35:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> I'm just staring at the closup of that fabric
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:35:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Monkeys, that is
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:36:06 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Lovely fabric,
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:36:16 PM EDT] <The_Bee> It looks beautiful Is the gold a blouse under the jacket of a jacket lining?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:36:54 PM EDT] <Laurna> If clothes would stop spontanously shrinking we would not have to have fun altering them.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:36:59 PM EDT] <DesertRose> No, it's a gore and gussets I sewed into the jacket to make it fit because I've gotten fatter since I bought that jacket, but I couldn't bear to donate it because it's so pretty.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:37:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> It is very pretty!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:38:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Your skills are beyond mine
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:38:14 PM EDT] <Laurna> A black net lace over the gold might work well to match the flowered fabric
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:38:23 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I may box-pleat that gore a bit up at the top; it sits a little oddly on my shoulders as it is, but for now, I've put it down. I'm going to take it to Mom's to use her Dryel thing to see if I can knock all the little bits of thread and fuzzies off.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:38:32 PM EDT] <bynw> here is the kitty behind me: https://photos.app.goo.gl/TWJFpyxa9DgfBN989
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:38:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I look forward to a picture of you wearing it.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:38:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> EEEEEEEEE!!! Such a cutie!!!!!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:39:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Such a cute kitty
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:39:03 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Kagi says, "No, dad, you can't have the chair. I'll share, but you can't haz."
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:39:19 PM EDT] <Laurna> I think he wonders why you are taking up his chair.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:39:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It'll be a bit yet, because it's still too warm in Florida for jackets of any sort.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:39:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Kagi-the-gamer is a he; Kagi-the-kitty is a she.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:08 PM EDT] <bynw> very true DR. it's confusing at times :)
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:27 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Google demanded proof of my identity before they let me see your cat, bynw.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:40 PM EDT] <KK> Me too.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We have a rainbow while lightning flashes
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:46 PM EDT] <bynw> weird
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:52 PM EDT] <Laurna> neat
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ooh, I bet that's beautiful, Jerusha!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:40:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> nice
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:41:01 PM EDT] <The_Bee> but beautiful, I bet
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:41:08 PM EDT] <Laurna> I would love some rain
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:41:17 PM EDT] <bynw> well that's google for you
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:41:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I would gladly send you some; we're pretty well saturated here in the (ha!) Sunshine State.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:41:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We have needed rain as well. Very dry
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:41:51 PM EDT] <DesertRose> What I really want to do is send some to northern California.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:42:43 PM EDT] <Laurna> We have had several fires down in the river bed where the homeless sleep, two days ago my house was so smoky, it is still lingering in the air.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:42:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My aunt and uncle live near Sacramento, and she just turned 79 and he's 84 or 85. *Nobody* needs to breathe all that smoke, but especially not older people with cardiovascular issues. (He has a pacemaker, and she had to have that carotid-artery-clearing procedure a year or so ago.)
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:43:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Laurna, believe it or not, we're getting your smoke up here as well
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:43:51 PM EDT] <KK> Some of your smoke has come all the way to the east coast.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:43:54 PM EDT] <bynw> the smoke and haze was really bad when i was in montana at the end of july
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:44:06 PM EDT] <Laurna> Another friend of mine has been evacuated for 5 days due to two fires in the pass
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:44:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Oh dear
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:45:40 PM EDT] <Laurna> I have another friend who lost her home in the fire up north just last week. They had been evacuated, then went home, then in the night the fire trucks saved them when the fires suddely turned.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:45:58 PM EDT] <The_Bee> DR, can a gore be in the front of a garment?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Oh my goodness!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Glad they are safe!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yes, Bee.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:18 PM EDT] <DesertRose> A gore is just a piece of fabric inserted to widen a garment.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> You frequently see them used in skirts and dresses to make them fuller.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Being alive is the best thing, but putting everything to rights is a major hassle
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That's terrifying, Laurna, but I'm glad they survived.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:46:59 PM EDT] <Laurna> Gores usually mean cut in triangle or on the diagnal
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:47:20 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Usually, yeah, they're triangular or sometimes trapezoidal.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:48:14 PM EDT] <Laurna> Yes she got out but all her stuff was still in the car. and there was no way to drive out as the fire blocked the road. so the firetrucks made their own exit through the tree line. so she lost her car and home
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:48:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That one was a weird shape because, owing to the original construction of the jacket, I had to cut it in two pieces; so I had the triangular part up at the top near the collar and then a rectangle from the yoke to the hem.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:48:42 PM EDT] <KK> No critters lost, I hope.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:48:46 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Bummer! Glad she survived
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:48:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> :` (
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:49:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yikes. That's awful.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:49:21 PM EDT] <Laurna> She did not have any at the time. I think they said they had their neighbors cat in the fire truck
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:49:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> 😲
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:49:36 PM EDT] <KK> Lucky cat.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:49:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Good for the cat
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:49:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I bet the poor critter was scared half out of their mind, though.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:49:53 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yikes, yikes, yikes.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:50:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (And the humans, too, re being scared half out of their minds.)
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:50:21 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Good for the firefighter who resccued the cat.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:50:26 PM EDT] <Laurna> I can not imagin it.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:50:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yes, good on the firefighter.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:50:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nor do I want to
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:51:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It must be like looking into hell.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:51:51 PM EDT] <Laurna> I am not sure this image will come over here. https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/240388931_4511008535584201_7450632350396319298_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=k2bHhiWoq8QAX_iMxn0&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=daf885205dd91cd2b1c45703bea75ebc&oe=61308B73
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:51:58 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I hear a lot of cats and dogs are being shipped from New Orleans to Massachusetts to get them away from Ida.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:52:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nope, Laurna. got a weird error
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:52:39 PM EDT] <The_Bee> an ugly scene
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:52:59 PM EDT] <Laurna> Face book doesn't always play nice
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:53:17 PM EDT] <KK> Dire.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:53:20 PM EDT] <Laurna> It is the remains from the fire
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:53:34 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Awful.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:53:39 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Life doesn't always play nice.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:53:57 PM EDT] <Laurna> Let us hope Ida learns to play nice quickly
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:54:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> We often get animal refugees from Atlantic hurricanes. They go to the vet school at NC State.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:54:46 PM EDT] <The_Bee> The pets coming here are going to be given new forever homes.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:55:19 PM EDT] <Laurna> Bee? Did you get that storm from last week. didn't go through Boston
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:55:23 PM EDT] <The_Bee> MSPCA is doing it.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:56:08 PM EDT] <The_Bee> We got rain and wind, but the worst damage was soouth of me.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:56:48 PM EDT] <Laurna> I thought about you when it headed through road island
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:57:09 PM EDT] <The_Bee> RI got it worse.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:58:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Hi everyone. Sorry to be so late. Just got home
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:58:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Hullo DFK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:58:52 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi DFK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:58:52 PM EDT] <Laurna> HELLO DFK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:59:03 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi DFK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:59:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <Catherine Windsor> Hi DFK.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:59:16 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, DFK.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:59:22 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi DFK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [7:59:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Hope no one is in the path of the storm
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:00:10 PM EDT] <KK> No, but watching it avidly, and we may get some fringe remnants later in the week.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:00:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> DoctorM is but has checked in a couple of times.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:00:29 PM EDT] <KK> Having been born during a hurricane, I seem to retain a fascination for them.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:00:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Hope Dr M misses the storm and is ok
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:00:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> They are fascinating. Terrible, but fascinating.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:01:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> lotta rain and heavy wind really is fascinating
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:01:10 PM EDT] <Laurna> the stories the family must have told
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:01:35 PM EDT] <Laurna> I don't recall reading any hurricans in the Deryni series.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:01:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> This one became a monster really fast
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:01:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Do they get hurricanes in England?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:02:05 PM EDT] <Laurna> Maybe the hort of orsal, might have trouble with one crossing to Corwyn
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:02:18 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If the Eleven Kingdoms are like the British Isles/northwestern Europe, they're too far north for the most part.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:02:31 PM EDT] <KK> Those meteorologists are really brave, to broadcast in the midst of the storms--that is, standing out in the wind and rain and reporting. I note that they wear Lands' End weather gear.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:02:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hurricanes like warm water.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:02:40 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> There was that storm in Coroth in The Search for Saint Camber
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:02:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Lands' End weather gear is good stuff.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:00 PM EDT] <bynw> hi there DFK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:06 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> I try to imagine England when I'm reading/writing about Gwynedd. Not that I reallly know much about England.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> hi bynw
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> or Wales
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I wish they made more lightweight stuff, though; most of their clothing is too hot for Florida.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:28 PM EDT] <KK> We had a hurricane go through Ireland while we lived there. Hardly tropical, by the time they get that far north, but still storms to be respected.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:42 PM EDT] <Laurna> wow
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:03:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> All storms are to be respected
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:04:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> That Mother Nature can be a real wench when she puts her mind to it
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:04:26 PM EDT] <Laurna> I imagin theNorthSea and Balllymar have a whole different kind of storm Cold and icy
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:04:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes, the wild northern gales
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:04:57 PM EDT] <KK> Two, in fact. The first one was the one in which Anne McCaffrey rescued Cameron and me, to feed us before the storm actually got there. The big grocery store just on the other side of the river was flooded out to waist-deep.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:05:06 PM EDT] <Laurna> Darcy will have some stories to tell
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:05:29 PM EDT] <Laurna> Very nice of Anne
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:05:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Darcy always has some stories to tell. Some might even be tru
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:05:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> true
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:05:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> That storm conjured by Dhugal and Mirjana was really scary
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:06:08 PM EDT] <Laurna> how old was Cameron
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:06:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Are the mountains/hills in Gwynedd pretty similar to the mountains/hills in England and Wales?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:06:58 PM EDT] <The_Bee> and Scotland?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:07:24 PM EDT] <KK> Ready to start the equivalent of 7th grade, so 12-13?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:07:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> I picture Meara being like Scotland
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:08:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> And with a healthy appetite at that age
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:08:31 PM EDT] <Laurna> Old enough to brave a storm. I can imagine you and Anne McCaffrey together. The stories told.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:09:22 PM EDT] <Laurna> My two favorite authors during High school and early college. And I never knew until reacently that you knew each other.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:09:45 PM EDT] <KK> She was quite a Lady.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:10:00 PM EDT] <Laurna> Fun!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:10:25 PM EDT] <KK> She had a pool at her house, and we used to go down there to swim, some evenings.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:10:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Goodness, yes... great stories from both ladies. throw in Patricial McKillip and you have my high school memories right there.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:10:28 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I loved her Brainships series
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:10:52 PM EDT] <Laurna> Crystal Singer and Pern
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:10:53 PM EDT] <KK> I think The Ship Who Sang was one of her best ever.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:10:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:11:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> I had a passion for dragons so loved Anne's stories
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:11:37 PM EDT] <Laurna> me too
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:11:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> I always wanted my own dragon
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:12:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> My earliest dreams were about being a Deryni Healer who Healed Pern dragons
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:12:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> And you haven't written us any stories about that... why?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:12:45 PM EDT] <bynw> yeah that's a good question
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:12:51 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ooh, yes, Laurna!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:12:53 PM EDT] <KK> Laurna, you should!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:12:55 PM EDT] <Laurna> I have twenty handwriten note books that are about 5 novels deep
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Transcribe them? ;)
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I think the gauntlet has been thrown
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:12 PM EDT] <Laurna> In my old age
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:23 PM EDT] <Laurna> I am not that old yet
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Come on woman, share those stories
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> yeah
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:40 PM EDT] <bynw> yes share them
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I was transcribing a story I wrote in high school and laughing at my stylistic immaturity.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:13:51 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I will be happy to help with all of the commas
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:14:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Reading one's high school writing is so painful... and funny... and painful
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:14:24 PM EDT] <Laurna> Those were in the days when I wrote in script. I am not sure I could even read them anymore
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:14:26 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Doesn't the pet section of the website have pics of someone's pet dragon?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:14:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> True
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:14:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Very painful!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:14:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, the beginning of a story. I never figured out where I was going with it, but I remembered a few concept from it that I'd still like to write, hence looking for the story to transcribe it.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:14:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> *a few conceptS, plural.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:15:14 PM EDT] <Laurna> And believe it or not my Deryni Healer was named Laurna
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:15:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> My Dad, bless him, read everyone one of my early stories. And didn't run screaming
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:15:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> One of the concepts was a solar-powered rapid-transit system.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:15:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Laurna, I'm... stunned!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:15:40 PM EDT] <Laurna> And she rode a gold dragon named Shandrith
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:15:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Welll we could certainly use that
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:15:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Color me shocked, Laurna. ;) <3
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:16:04 PM EDT] <Laurna> And she had a fire lizared named Rusty and Trica
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:16:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> That is so adorable
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:16:34 PM EDT] <bynw> we would all like to see that story i think
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:16:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Have you used those names for puppies, Laurna?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:16:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Sounds like she had two or her fire lizard had two nomes
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> No but I did for a cockatoo and a parrot I use to have
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Of course you did... all those flying beasts
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:22 PM EDT] <KK> Well, folks, I have a dog clammoring for his supper. And I'm happy to report that I've started feeding Gus the canned kidney diet, and he's not only scarfing it up, but he's gaining back a bit of weight. Fingers crossed for my 19-year-old boy!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:23 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Shandrith would make a pretty name for a show dog.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:30 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yay, Gus!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Yay Gus!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:41 PM EDT] <Laurna> Glad he is eating
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Are we Zooming next week, KK?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Go Gus!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:47 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Go for it, Gus!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:54 PM EDT] <KK> He's such a sweet and affectionate boy.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:17:59 PM EDT] <DesertRose> He is best kitty.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Have a lovely night KK... what about chat/zoom next week?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> Labor Day weekend?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:05 PM EDT] <Laurna> Petting for Gus
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Good for Gus. I wish melantha were as enthusiastic about her kidney care food.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nighters, KK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (All kitties are best kitties.)
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:29 PM EDT] <Laurna> Good Night and good week KK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:34 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Early chat next week?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:52 PM EDT] <KK> I believe next week is, indeed, a zoom week. 3pm as usual, Bynw?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> Nite KK. Stay high and dry if Ida comes your way
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:18:59 PM EDT] <bynw> sounds good to me
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:19:01 PM EDT] <The_Bee> or will you be at Dragoncon, KK?
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:19:06 PM EDT] <bynw> give Gus scritches
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:19:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Sounds good. Have a good week, thanks for coming to see us, scritch the Gus and the Booker, and stay safe and well!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:19:52 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Thanks for coming. Have a very good week.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:19:57 PM EDT] <Laurna> Stay well and stay safe
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> cya kk
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:14 PM EDT] <KK> No Dragoncon for me this year. Not quite up to it. But I'll be with you guys, which is even better! Have a good week, all.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Bethane> 🙂
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:30 PM EDT] <Laurna> And On Zoom, I think we should do some purnuciation lessons
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <derynifank> You too, KK
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:33 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Aw, thank you! G'night and good week!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> YES, Laurna! Remind us please!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:47 PM EDT] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:20:59 PM EDT] <KK> Nighters!
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:21:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> Good night
[Sunday, August 29, 2021] [8:21:13 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)