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KK Chat -- 4 January 2015 Part 2

Started by DesertRose, January 04, 2015, 06:11:01 PM

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[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:08 PM] <drakensis> I suspect Tammaron had been naughty on the paperwork. Javan did get killed shortly after asking for documentation and Tammaron claiming he'd provide copies.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:11 PM] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:11 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:14 PM] <Shiral> Sorry, having an "out of body experience."
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:32 PM] <Shiral> Nah, it's too cramped being a cat
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:37 PM] <KK> BRB
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:38 PM] <DesertRose> And Hi to Missy-cat.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:38 PM] <Evie> She was channeling Francesca I think
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:51 PM] <Shiral> Possibly =o)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:29:59 PM] <Jemler> shiral the animagus
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:30:02 PM] <drakensis> the regents had been fiddling the laws and if Tammaron, as Chancellor, would have been implicated
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:30:11 PM] <Evie> Hello, Missy-cat, didn't mean to leave you out
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:30:23 PM] <Shiral> Poor Javan. I really hated seeing him die
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:30:33 PM] <The_Bee> Hi, Missy-cat
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:30:35 PM] <Dennis> I'm more talking about the beginning. IN 917, he was already Third Lord of the Council, and at least one of the two in front of him was old (Alister).
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:30:50 PM] * Shiral reaches out to give Missy-cat a behind the ears scritch
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:07 PM] <Dennis> Yes. If he'd just been a little luckier and a little more ruthless....
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:23 PM] <revanne> Sorry folks am falling asleep at the computer - today now clocks up 17 hours. Really enjoyed this - will see you all again on February 1st *waves night-night in sleepy fashion*
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:23 PM] <Dennis> Missy-cat appreciated the virtual scritch.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:33 PM] <drakensis> night revanne
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:35 PM] <Shiral> Night, Revanne
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:37 PM] <Shiral> Sleep well
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:37 PM] <Jemler> nite revanne.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:40 PM] <DesertRose> Night, revanne. It was great to see you in chat!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:43 PM] <Evie> glad you finally managed to make it, revanne!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:45 PM] <Dennis> Night, Revanne!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:46 PM] <Laurna> Good night Revanne
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:31:50 PM] <The_Bee> good night, Revanne. Glad you came.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:32:13 PM] Quit revanne has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:32:32 PM] <Dennis> Yeah, I can see why Tammaron wouldn't have gone over in 921, drankensis, for the reasons you say.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:32:45 PM] <Evie> What is it, 11:15 pm there, or 12:15 am?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:32:55 PM] <Shiral> Late-thirty
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:32:56 PM] <Dennis> er, drackensis
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:32:57 PM] <Jemler> 12:32 am
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:32:59 PM] <DesertRose> 11:30 pm, I think
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:04 PM] <Laurna> Is there a big twelth night event for tommarrow
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:05 PM] <Dennis> er, drakensis
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:25 PM] <Evie> Where did I get the 15 from? I obviously can't read my own timestamp. :D
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:28 PM] <The_Bee> 11:32 i think.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:30 PM] <drakensis> third time is the charm, Dennis
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:30 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:36 PM] <drakensis> and yes, 11:32
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:37 PM] <Dennis> Me type gud!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:42 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:57 PM] <Shiral> Rented fingers get us all
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:33:57 PM] <The_Bee> england is 5 hours ahead of easter U.S.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:00 PM] <Evie> he's letting the cat type
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:03 PM] <The_Bee> eastern
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:20 PM] <KK> Back. Sorry I missed Revanne.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:25 PM] <Laurna> Are we knighting anyone tomarrow?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:28 PM] <DesertRose> Dennis, I don't know if your chat client will do this but a lot of them will, if you type the first few letters and then hit Tab, it will autocomplete the name for you.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:45 PM] <DesertRose> It saves me a lot of typos on names. :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:45 PM] <Jemler> 12:30 in paris, my bad
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:50 PM] <Evie> Yeah, Sunday's are busy for her, so I'm glad she stayed up as late as she did.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:34:54 PM] <Shiral> Will we all be properly dressed for Twelfth Night Court?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:11 PM] <DesertRose> WB, KK.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:12 PM] <drakensis> in 917 possibly it was a case of seeing which way the wind was blowing. as one of the human regents he functionally be ruling in all but name, as a loyalist to the deryni he may have felt he'd always be on the outside of the inner circle
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:18 PM] <KK> So, is she actually Rev Anne, and works on Sundays?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:23 PM] <DesertRose> Yes.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:24 PM] <Evie> Yes
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:30 PM] <KK> Cool.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:33 PM] <DesertRose> She's an Anglican minister, I believe.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:43 PM] <Evie> Yes.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:45 PM] <DesertRose> I could be wrong about the denomination.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:52 PM] <drakensis> the McInnis brothers controlled church and military but Tamaron controlled the courts
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:53 PM] <Jemler> minist-her :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:35:57 PM] <KK> Probably Anglican.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:36:05 PM] * DesertRose throws a guppy at Jemler.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:36:06 PM] <drakensis> anglican if she used to be at a cathedral
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:36:16 PM] <The_Bee> definitely not Roman Catholic
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:36:36 PM] <Jemler> what gave it away, bee?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:36:44 PM] <drakensis> nor of Gwynedd. would you have female priests in your modern Gwynedd, Evie?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:36:56 PM] <DesertRose> No, RC doesn't allow women priests.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:37:02 PM] <DesertRose> Which is stupid.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:37:08 PM] <DesertRose> To my way of thinking anyway.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:37:21 PM] <Evie> None have turned up yet, but I'm thinking it's roughly analogous to modern UK, so it's possible
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:37:26 PM] <The_Bee> unless you believe the story of Pope Joan
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:37:34 PM] <DesertRose> They miss out on plenty of people who'd make good priests because they won't let women in.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:08 PM] <Jemler> you know if the rcc would just endorse same sex marriage the priests could marry each other and leave the altar boys alone.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:17 PM] <Dennis> The Church would not have a priest shortage if they ordained married men and women. It's silly.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:17 PM] <DesertRose> I also think the celibacy rule should go out the window. They miss out on plenty of people who'd make good priests because they want families.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:20 PM] <Evie> Evie smacks Jemler upside the head with a mackerel
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:26 PM] * drakensis shrugs. preaching to the choir. methodists ordained women 20 years before anglicans. my mother's a district head (bishop equivalent)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:34 PM] <DesertRose> Jemler: I'm going to beat you with a swordfish.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:40 PM] <drakensis> if she was celibate, so much for me
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:38:47 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:39:00 PM] <DesertRose> No, I'm talking about the Roman Catholic church, not the Anglicans.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:39:06 PM] <KK> It's coming, though I think not in our lifetimes.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:39:14 PM] <Shiral> I see that in TKD, Alaric is receiving good training befitting the future King's Champion, KK
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:39:33 PM] <DesertRose> My cousin thought he wanted to be a priest, but he decided he wanted to marry and have children someday (hasn't yet but he's only 25), and left seminary and just got a regular degree.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:10 PM] <DesertRose> He'd have made a good priest though. I kidded him about going to the Eastern Orthodox church because their priests are not only allowed to marry, but parish priests are EXPECTED to be married, preferably with kids.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:22 PM] <KK> Speaking of clergy, anyone been following the story about the Maryland Episcopal bishop who hit and killed a cyclist last week, then left for 20 minutes? Appalling. She'd had a drunk driving conviction several years before that, before she became a bishop.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:38 PM] <DesertRose> OMG, no, I hadn't heard about that.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:39 PM] <The_Bee> I had a high school classmate who planned to be a priest. His last name was Pope.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:40 PM] <Evie> Saw that.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:43 PM] <Shiral> How awful
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:46 PM] <drakensis> no, hadn't heard that
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:48 PM] <DesertRose> That is awful.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:40:54 PM] <KK> Drunk AND drugs and paraphernalia.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:41:00 PM] <Laurna> We need one more book. You have not yet told us the reason why Alaric always wears a mail shirt. Not just the general reasons. I want a specific incident that made him wear it.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:41:02 PM] <DesertRose> Oh jeez.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:41:07 PM] <The_Bee> worse for the cyclist
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:41:26 PM] <The_Bee> and duncan's ordination
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:41:38 PM] <Evie> I would think having most of the kingdom gunning for you just for being what you are would be reason enough for him to wear mail all the time. I would.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:41:42 PM] <Jemler> Mary Elizabeth Cook.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:41:47 PM] <KK> Yep, married guy with kids. And she failed in a priest's primary duty, to stop and give last rites to the dying.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:00 PM] <DesertRose> OMG. Too busy trying to cover her own tuchus.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:08 PM] <Shiral> Not to mention a failure to call an ambulance
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:11 PM] <drakensis> there'd need to be another volume of Deryni stories to cover all the things we want to see, Laurna
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:12 PM] <KK> Wearing mamil is a reasonable precaution for someone like Alaric.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:21 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, who doesn't have a cell phone these days to call 911?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:41 PM] Join Elim__ has joined this channel (~Elim@OWIRCN-efa18911.dynamic.tds.net).
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:43 PM] <KK> And not to run away while waiting for help to arrive.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:50 PM] <Laurna> Ah but I need details LOL
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:50 PM] <The_Bee> Hi Elim
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:58 PM] <KK> wearing mail, not mamil.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:42:58 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Elim__
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:04 PM] * Evie waves at Elim
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:15 PM] <Shiral> While he was growing so quickly, mail would have been tough, but in adulthood, he was smart to take up the practice
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:16 PM] <Jemler> hi elim
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:20 PM] <Shiral> Hello Elim
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:24 PM] <Evie> mamil = the Eleven Kingdoms' version of mithril. ;-)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:27 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:32 PM] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:42 PM] <KK> Could be. ;)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:42 PM] <Shiral> The Mamil Man's late again, darn it!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:43:56 PM] <Jemler> it's sunday!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:44:02 PM] <The_Bee> how go the wedding plans, elim? or already done?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:44:46 PM] <Jemler> anyone gonna watch Galavant tonite?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:44:56 PM] <The_Bee> I'm recording it.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:45:05 PM] <Shiral> Nope, dusting off my tiara and heading for Downton Abbey
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:45:13 PM] <Evie> Don't get TV, so unfortunately no, but the trailer I saw looked interesting
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:45:17 PM] <Kildara> Last I heard the drugs and DUI were a previous incident - pulled over, not accident. I don't think anything has been said yet aout her blood alcohol (sorry this is old comment = Mibbit's not letting me type)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:45:26 PM] <KK> The one comes before the other, Shiral.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:45:32 PM] Quit Elim_ has left this server (Ping timeout: 121 seconds).
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:45:58 PM] <The_Bee> Doesn't your PBS station do repeats, sshiral?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:45:59 PM] <Jemler> after galavant, the librarians
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:00 PM] <Shiral> Having dinner and a DA session with my mom, tonight. Doubt she'll be into Galavant
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:07 PM] <Evie> drakensis, is "telly" still used for television over there, or is that a dated term?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:16 PM] <Jemler> da session?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:17 PM] <Shiral> At very inconvenient times, Bee
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:18 PM] <Laurna> That is alot of TV to watch tonight
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:33 PM] <KK> That was my understanding, Kildara. No word on her status this time, but leaving the scene of an accident is a serious offense even if drink is not involved.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:41 PM] <drakensis> it's still used Evie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:49 PM] <Evie> OK, good
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:46:57 PM] <Jemler> plus the accident resulted in death.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:47:05 PM] <The_Bee> that's why I record just about everything. then I have to find time to watch it.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:47:06 PM] <Shiral> That woman REALLY messed up from any possible interpretation of the incident
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:47:19 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, she should have called 911 and stayed the hell put.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:47:19 PM] <Shiral> Oh, I'll be recording things
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:47:54 PM] <Shiral> Or not gone driving while under the influence of controlled substances
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:48:13 PM] <DesertRose> Even if she had been drinking or whatever, she should have called 911 and stayed put.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:48:24 PM] <Shiral> Oh, definitely
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:48:40 PM] <Evie> Had to reread that, Shiral. I thought you said "Oh, I'll be recording things and not going driving under the influence of controlled substances."
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:48:41 PM] <DesertRose> Not that I condone driving under the influence.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:48:49 PM] <The_Bee> was she too drunk to think straight?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:49:11 PM] <DesertRose> I definitely don't. I lost a friend I'd known from 2nd grade through university to an underage drunk driver.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:49:24 PM] <KK> Coul explain, even if it doesn't excuse.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:49:29 PM] <Shiral> The only "Controlled substance"I've had lately was a snifter of Amaretto on Christmas Eve at my sister's. =o) And I wasn't planning to drive anywhere further, that night.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:49:55 PM] <DesertRose> I had a glass of wine with Christmas dinner, and a beer and a few sips of champagne on New Year's Eve.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:04 PM] <The_Bee> I don't drive at all. I'm a driving school dropout.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:12 PM] <DesertRose> Well, not really a beer, a Raz-ber-Rita.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:22 PM] <Evie> Yeah, I'm sitting here at the deli with no designated driver, which is why I'm not having a cider.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:25 PM] <Shiral> Stayed home on NYE. It's not my favorite holiday in any case
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:27 PM] <DesertRose> But that's basically raspberry beer.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:35 PM] <Kildara> Leaving the scene is criminal all by itself and I expect that for that she'll be held accountable. But I'm still waiting to hear about any other factors. It's a tragedy all around, that's for sure. That poor family.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:52 PM] <Jemler> i had a couple glasses of wine on new years, but my wheelchair was across the room.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:50:57 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, she is royally up the creek. And I do feel bad for the victim's family.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:11 PM] <Laurna> I drive home from work at midnight and nearly every night I come across someone swerving all over the road. Drunk or texting I don't know.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:25 PM] <Jemler> defrocked at the leasty.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:30 PM] <Jemler> defrocked at the least\.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:31 PM] <DesertRose> Yikes, Laurna. Be careful out there.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:40 PM] <Shiral> Her own bad decisions got her up that creek. And someone died because she was careless.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:48 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, definitely, Shiral.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:53 PM] <Evie> at that time could also just be falling asleep at the wheel
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:51:58 PM] <Evie> Either way, still dangerous
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:10 PM] <Shiral> Definitely to be avoided!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:15 PM] <drakensis> I literally can't count how often I've called people and found out they were driving as they replied. Gotten far to used to telling them I'll call them back once it's safe
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:15 PM] <DesertRose> The victim's family is out their husband/father because she was careless or stupid or intoxicated, and that's just wrong all around.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:22 PM] <Dennis> We really need to work on building a society where driving isn't required.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:28 PM] <The_Bee> One time we saw someone reading while driving.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:33 PM] <KK> I got the impression the accident was broad daylight, and he was in a designate bike lane.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:35 PM] <Jemler> i used to walk home at 1am from work. passed 2 bars on the way.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:52:53 PM] <DesertRose> I wish you all the luck in the world at that, Dennis. It'll take a lot to get Americans to give up cars.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:53:02 PM] <Jemler> 2:30pm
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:53:25 PM] <Evie> Yes, since we have long distances between destinations and hardly any public transportation to speak of other than in large cities
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:53:36 PM] <KK> It ain't gonna happen. But we can certainly make the penalties very stiff for causing accidents because of impaired judgment.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:53:37 PM] <Shiral> I'd love to take public transport. There's a huge shortfall between what's needed and what's actually available unless you want to spend 4 hours on the road
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:53:50 PM] <Laurna> I love my car. And that I can gun it get around those people quickly.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:53:51 PM] <Evie> Just from my house to my office is a 40 minute commute with no public transportation available between locations
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:53:56 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, I'd use it if it didn't take for bloody ever.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:54:02 PM] <Dennis> Yeah. Our public transit is a mess, except in the old cities.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:54:05 PM] <The_Bee> Even with public transit, people are reluctant to give up their cars.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:54:16 PM] <Jemler> i used to walk for 1.5 hrs to get to work.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:54:29 PM] <DesertRose> I actually have a bus stop right beside my apartment building, but the bus routes are so weird that it takes forever to get anywhere.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:54:39 PM] <Dennis> Because you spent so much time ducking the lobsters?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:54:47 PM] <Shiral> WE have come a ways about awareness of the dangers of drunk driving. But every so often, we're reminded why that's a bad idea As I was driving down to Monterey, I saw a billboard every few miles warning against driving drunk
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:55:09 PM] <Evie> My uni campus has several on-campus bus routes, but it takes them so long to make one loop that it's faster to walk several blocks than take the bus.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:55:44 PM] <The_Bee> Does BART cover your area, Shiral?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:55:59 PM] <Aerlys> I used to bus to work when I was single, and yes, it took way longer than driving. The worse part, though, was all the weirdos who kept hitting on me. More than once I'd get off a few stops early, just so they would;t know where I lived, and get on another bus to home later.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:56:17 PM] <Shiral> Only if I drive for a half hour to the nearest station It WILL be extending down to my area though.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:56:17 PM] <Laurna> Californians could not live without their cars. Nope never will happen.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:56:39 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, that's the other reason I don't take the bus. Too many creepy guys in the world, and you never know who's just a creep and who's a rapist.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:56:42 PM] <Shiral> BART is very good, IF you're going where they go~
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:57:03 PM] <drakensis> I'll have to try to look more respectable when I'm on the bus
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:57:15 PM] <Evie> Alabamians couldn't live without cars because everyone not living in Central Birmingham or possibly Montgomery would be stranded at home. :D
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:57:16 PM] <DesertRose> Don't bother people is the easy route. :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:57:39 PM] <Shiral> Once it's down nearer to me, it will make getting to SF and over to Berkeley that much easier
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:57:48 PM] <drakensis> Bothering people is far too much bother
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:57:57 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, I wish more people thought that way.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:58:02 PM] <drakensis> Besides, bus travel is good reading time
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:58:03 PM] <Aerlys> Hey, so long as you're not an admitted ex-drug dealer/pimp, who has "cleaned up" and now works as a cook at a strip club...
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:58:06 PM] <Evie> I loved living in London for three months, though. Nearly every place was easily acceptible via the Tube
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:58:33 PM] <DesertRose> I can't count the number of times I've had to fend off guys on the damn elevator in my building, never mind the bus.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:58:56 PM] <Aerlys> yes, America could use something like the Tube.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:59:11 PM] <Shiral> We sure could
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:59:13 PM] <drakensis> Toronto has a decent subway, although it's much smaller
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:59:23 PM] <drakensis> and building them is horribly expensive
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:59:25 PM] <DesertRose> We'll never get the funding for good public transit, is the problem.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:59:26 PM] <The_Bee> I believe Boston's transit system is modeled on London's
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:59:42 PM] <Shiral> The New York Subway system and the DC Metro are both good, although the Subway is incredibly noisy
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [06:59:57 PM] <DesertRose> The DC Metro I believe is modeled on Paris' Metro.
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[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:02 PM] <DesertRose> Hi NavaWazr.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:08 PM] <Evie> LOL! My chat alarm just went off, two hours late
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:12 PM] <Evie> hi, Nava!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:12 PM] <Aerlys> Hi NavaWazr
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:13 PM] <The_Bee> Hi Nava Wazr
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:18 PM] <Laurna> Everything here to too far away. I go 10 miles just to go to the fabric store
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:23 PM] <Shiral> You can get a LONG way on the DC Metro. It's a very useful system
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:28 PM] <Laurna> Hi Nava
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:32 PM] <Shiral> Hi Nava
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:35 PM] <DesertRose> I go about 6 miles just to go to the supermarket, never mind fabric shopping.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:46 PM] <NavaWazr> hello and Happy New Year everyone
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:00:58 PM] <The_Bee> happy 2015 to you
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:02 PM] <DesertRose> There is a closer supermarket but it's dirty and expensive and I don't like it.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:05 PM] <Aerlys> I can;t imagine DH trying to take public transit to work. He's a general contractor.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:07 PM] <Laurna> Happy New Year
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:09 PM] <DesertRose> Happy New Year, NavaWazr.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:17 PM] <NavaWazr> (walks 500 feet to grocery store)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:24 PM] <Jemler> hi navawazr
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:35 PM] * drakensis can go months without being more than 3 miles from home
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:53 PM] <Shiral> I have a grocery store I could ride to on my bike, but it's not a really good one
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:55 PM] <The_Bee> The supermarket near me closed over a year ago. It'snow a Whole Foods.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:55 PM] <DesertRose> The one that's dirty and expensive is about two blocks away, but I go out of my way to shop somewhere that's clean, reasonably priced, and well staffed.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:01:55 PM] <Laurna> I buy a truck load of groceries every three weeks Could not carry them onto a bus.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:15 PM] <Shiral> I don't blame you, DR
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:17 PM] <The_Bee> I ride my trike to the Somerville Market Basket.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:24 PM] <Shiral> I'd rather shop at a store like that myself
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:50 PM] <drakensis> time for me to turn in. good night
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:53 PM] <NavaWazr> I think I am going to try to live out of the fridge, freezer and pantry for a while, until they are all empty. Go out for milk, cat food and cat litter onlyy
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:54 PM] <DesertRose> Night, drakensis.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:55 PM] <Dennis> The one on Somerville, Ave, Bee?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:57 PM] <Shiral> Night, Drakensis
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:02:59 PM] <Evie> Goodnight, drakensis
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:00 PM] <Dennis> We shop there too.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:02 PM] <Laurna> Good Night Drak
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:05 PM] <NavaWazr> night Drake
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:05 PM] <Dennis> Night Drakensis!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:06 PM] <Laurna> Drakensis
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:07 PM] * Aerlys imagines trying to haul her groceries home on a bike...
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:07 PM] <Shiral> Nice to "meet" you
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:10 PM] <The_Bee> nighters. Drakensis. glad you could come
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:16 PM] <drakensis> cya another time
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[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:35 PM] <Shiral> I have baskets on my bike, and a week's shopping is about two grocery bags for me
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:50 PM] <The_Bee> Yes., Dennis. Are you a fellow Bosatonian?
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:51 PM] <DesertRose> I could, if I had a bike with a decent basket, but I don't have any place to store a bicycle.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:03:59 PM] <Laurna> My Mobbit will not let me type in only the first initials of a name. drat.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:04:06 PM] <Shiral> It's nice for me, but not practical for everyone
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:04:31 PM] <The_Bee> my trike is more stable than a two-wheeler.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:04:36 PM] <DesertRose> That's a bummer, Laurna.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:04:41 PM] <Evie> DR, if you are able to post chat tonight, I think I'll head out before I outstay my welcome here. Still need to get some shopping done before heading home, but if chat is still going on when I get there, I'll pop back in.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:04:48 PM] <Aerlys> I'd have to haul a bike trailer behind me...
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:04:54 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, I can. See you later, Evie.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:04:56 PM] <Shiral> Night, Evie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:00 PM] <DesertRose> But you never outstay your welcome. :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:03 PM] <The_Bee> bye Evie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:12 PM] <Evie> OK. *waves to all*
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:12 PM] <Laurna> Night Evie. Enjoy the rest of your holiday.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:19 PM] <Jemler> nite evie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:23 PM] <Evie> It ends tonight, alas
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:23 PM] <Aerlys> nighters evie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:24 PM] <KK> I think I'm going to head out, too. See most of you next week.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:32 PM] <Laurna> Good night KK
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:33 PM] <Shiral> Night, KK Thanks for stopping by!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:34 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, see you, KK. Have a good week!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:38 PM] <Annie> Night KK
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:39 PM] <DesertRose> Thanks for coming to see us. :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:40 PM] <Evie> I go back to work tomorrow, which is one reason I need to head out. need to put gas in my car and buy lunches for work
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:43 PM] <The_Bee> bye, KK. Thanks for coming.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:44 PM] <Aerlys> Good night, KK. Happy New Year
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:48 PM] <Evie> Goodnight, KK!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:49 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:49 PM] <Annie> I'm going to head for bed.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:50 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, Happy New year!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:55 PM] <DesertRose> Night, Annie. :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:05:59 PM] <Shiral> We're already eager for the NEXT book =o)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:00 PM] <Annie> night all! :D
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:01 PM] <Evie> goodnight, Annie! Welcome back
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:06 PM] <Laurna> Night Annie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:07 PM] <Shiral> Night, Annie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:08 PM] <Annie> Thank you.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:09 PM] <The_Bee> I think early chat worked out pretty well.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:31 PM] <Aerlys> nighters, Annie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:32 PM] <Shiral> It did
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:32 PM] <The_Bee> nighters, Annie
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:32 PM] <Laurna> So glad to see all the UK people tonight
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:32 PM] <Evie> yes, and lasted twice as long, so that's great
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[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:32 PM] <Shiral> Although I'm being guilt tripped by two hungry pussy cats
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:34 PM] <KK> Nighters, all. (Yes, we can plan to continue doing this on the first Sunday of the month.)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:41 PM] <Evie> yay!
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:42 PM] <DesertRose> I think so too even though I missed the early bits. :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:44 PM] <DesertRose> Yay! :)
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:53 PM] <Dennis> Bee, yes. I live near Porter Square.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:06:55 PM] <Aerlys> I was lucky to be home early enough today for chat.
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:07:04 PM] <Shiral> Have a good week, KK, Evie Annie and all others who are departing
[Sunday, January 04, 2015] [07:07:05 PM] <Dennis> Night, KK!
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"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)