KK Chat -- 9 June 2013

[DesertRose]

[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:07:56 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:07:59 PM] <jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:02 PM] <the_Bee> So you've got DM working on your project, Evie?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:05 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:06 PM] <the_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:09 PM] <Shiral> Hello Katherine
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:11 PM] <Evie> He probably hunts for it on Easter and wonders what box he left it in. :-D
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:14 PM] <DesertRose> Hi KK.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:14 PM] <Evie> hi, KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:17 PM] <KK> Hello all.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:22 PM] <cynicalmedic> Or which saddle bag
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:32 PM] <Evie> LOL! True
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:39 PM] <Shiral> Hopes he didn't give it to some attractive wench in a barn, somewhere....
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:40 PM] <jemler> what did you think of GoT, KK?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:51 PM] <bynw> hiyas KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:08:57 PM] <KK> It was very red.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:09:06 PM] <jemler> i red the books
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:09:12 PM] <Evie> Very red as in lots of bloodshed?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:09:15 PM] <jemler> read, sorry
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:09:26 PM] <KK> Yep. Didn't you watch it?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:09:37 PM] <jemler> they called it the Red Wedding
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:09:37 PM] <cynicalmedic> I knew there were going to be shrieks of anguish over it. Two of my "nephews" just about had apoplexy
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:10:14 PM] <jemler> so far in the story they've killed off half of House Stark.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:10:35 PM] <KK> It was a stunner. Hard to imagine how they can top that for tonight's season finale.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:10:42 PM] <Evie> I can't. I tried watching the first episode, and I loved the costuming and set design, but let's just say the graphic violence triggered too many of my issues, so I have to stick to reading the novels, where i can choose what to visualize and what not to.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:11:05 PM] <cynicalmedic> Yes, I nearly tossed one of the books across the fire house - but realized it was on my Kindle.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:11:19 PM] <Shiral> Good save, CM =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:11:24 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, that would have ended badly, CM.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:11:50 PM] <Evie> Yeah, let's not throw a Kindle against a wall.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:11:59 PM] <cynicalmedic> Yes, it would have. Can't work without my Kindle!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:11 PM] <Shiral> Rather more expensive than destroying a paperback
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:12 PM] Join Jerusha has joined this channel (Mibbit@OWIRCN-f6b15d19.dsl.bell.ca).
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:13 PM] <jemler> i visualize taking a poool cue, rolling it in broken glass anf rusted bits of metal, and turning Joffrey into a royalpopsicle.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:14 PM] <DesertRose> I don't own a Kindle or a Nook or any other e-reader, but I have to say, I threw Camber the Heretic halfway across my bedroom when Rhys died. Sorry, KK, but I was severely upset.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:17 PM] <jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:19 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:20 PM] <Shiral> Hello Jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:21 PM] <DesertRose> Hey Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:29 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:31 PM] <Shiral> Couldn't live without my iPad
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:44 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:12:54 PM] <Shiral> Lucky I didn't own it the first time I read CTH
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:13:06 PM] <Jerusha> I was also sorry when Rhys died
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:13:25 PM] <jemler> it was probably a bummer for him, too!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:13:37 PM] <Shiral> I don't know any Deryni fan who WASN'T sorry about Rhys' death!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:13:43 PM] <KK> Oddly enough, that didn't affecct me nearly as much as killing off Javan.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:13:53 PM] <Shiral> Certainly a headache, Jemler
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:13:57 PM] <Jerusha> Yes, Javan
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:03 PM] <cynicalmedic> I cried for Javan and Charlan
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:06 PM] <Jerusha> death was a blow
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:08 PM] <jemler> ooooh, jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:09 PM] <Shiral> Well yes. That was another hard one
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:13 PM] <Shiral> Javan had so much promise
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:24 PM] <cynicalmedic> The other people on the train thought I was ill.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:27 PM] <Jerusha> He understood the dynamics
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:27 PM] <Shiral> but the title kind of gave it away that he was not long for this world.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:30 PM] <jemler> a lot of promise, a lot more enemies.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:31 PM] <KK> Yeah, had to wait until everyone else was out of the house before I wrote that.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:14:56 PM] <Shiral> Power hungry enemies who wanted to keep their power
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:15:09 PM] <jemler> rhys mishael came on strong in the end.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:15:11 PM] <Jerusha> At all costs, with no honour
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:15:23 PM] <the_Bee> Javan was doomed from the moment KK entered his death year in the Haldane genealogy.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:15:38 PM] <Shiral> Yes, although I wanted to smack Rhys Michael multiple times before he got the picture
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:15:43 PM] <Jerusha> I felt sorry for Rhysem, too. So close, but in the end, he was gone too
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:15:52 PM] <jemler> honor needs integrity. integrity is like virginity, once you lose it, you're screwed!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:15:56 PM] <KK> Yes, but it was HOW he died--and how he lived. He would have been a great king.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:16:31 PM] <Shiral> He started out well, certainly
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:16:32 PM] <Jerusha> His wife was a great queen
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:16:34 PM] <KK> He WAS a great king; just not for very long.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:16:35 PM] <bynw> it would have been a whole new alternative timeline if Javan lived
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:17:00 PM] <Jerusha> It would have been interesting, though
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:17:03 PM] <Evie> At least it was in the middle of the night when I read both Rhys's and Javan's deaths. I was doing my student teaching when I read Sharon Kay Penman's book about Llywellen the Great of Wales, and I burst into tears when he died. Fortunately that was during my planning period.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:17:04 PM] <Shiral> Wish we could put Kelson and Javan together and listen to their conversation
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:17:05 PM] <DesertRose> When Javan died, I cried. My copy of King Javan's Year is tearstained in the last pages.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:17:43 PM] <cynicalmedic> I liked that book, too, Evie.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:17:58 PM] <Jerusha> I mourn Llewellen of Wales, too
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:18:28 PM] <the_Bee> I recently read her book sabout Richard III.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:18:34 PM] <jemler> wasn't he tje troubadout of the High King of Mooryn?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:18:39 PM] <Evie> My coop teacher asked, "Are you OK?" Me: "Yes, but Llewellen just died...in [year]...." She laughed. :-D
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:18:58 PM] <Jerusha> I have a copy of The Brothers of Gyyneed, but I haven't read it yet
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:01 PM] <Evie> Kelson and Javan together would be cool
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:02 PM] <the_Bee> How Heartless of her!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:15 PM] <Kelric> that whole trilogy, Harrowing, KJY and TBP were very depressing.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:26 PM] <Evie> Oh, it was the "Yes, I've done that too" sort of laugh, not laughing AT me. :-0
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:29 PM] <Evie> :-)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:40 PM] <DesertRose> They're very sad, yes, Kelric, but I love them nonetheless.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:47 PM] <the_Bee> oh, good
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:50 PM] <cynicalmedic> It's amazing how fictional characters inspire so much loyalty and affection.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:19:58 PM] <Jerusha> They illustrate how bad the times were
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:20:03 PM] <Shiral> Just when you thought Javan was going to straighten things out.... But Rhys Michael was the one who really did it. Unfortunately, he didn't survive long enough to know
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:20:25 PM] <DesertRose> I felt bad for Rhys Michael, and I knew Javan was doomed, but Rhys Thuryn's death came out of freaking nowhere. That was why I threw the book.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:20:28 PM] <Shiral> I hope Owain was a good king
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:20:29 PM] <jemler> but, he broke the regents power./
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:20:47 PM] <Shiral> Exactly. But a horse broke his whole right hand
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:20:58 PM] <DesertRose> Rhys Michael
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:02 PM] <Shiral> Yes
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:05 PM] <jemler> Sidana.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:11 PM] <Jerusha> Perhaps, KK, in a future time you might tell the story of King Owain?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:22 PM] <KK> RHys Michael died because sometimes good people do die, for no good reason. It just happens.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:23 PM] <Evie> Yeah, Sidana's death was a shock for me
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:38 PM] <Shiral> I was COMPLETELY unprepared for Brion to die in the first chapter of DR
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:39 PM] <DesertRose> I felt bad for Sidana too.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:21:51 PM] <Shiral> What? you mean he DIES?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:22:03 PM] <Jerusha> Sidana was young, but she could have made a good queen
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:22:06 PM] <DesertRose> I wasn't as invested in Brion at the beginning of DR though. When Rhys Thuryn died, I was INVESTED in him.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:22:25 PM] <jemler> at least that little #$%^&* got what was coming to him.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:22:32 PM] <DesertRose> I have a thing for Healers though. Just ask bynw about my gaming habits.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:22:34 PM] <Evie> Joram's not allowed to die. Ever. ;-)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:22:34 PM] <Shiral> We'd just gone through a whole trilogy with Rhys--of COURSE we were invested!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:22:59 PM] <KK> That's the ting with Brion. We didn't really know him. It's only now that we're getting to know him directly, and to understand some of the events in his life that made him who he was.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:04 PM] <Shiral> I didn't think Sidana would last long--Kelson needed a Deryni Queen
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:05 PM] <jemler> what happens when Morgan dies?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:05 PM] <Jerusha> Joran does die, though along with Rhys's son, Tieg
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:06 PM] <Evie> I will be in denial and pretend that plotline doesn't exist. La la la, didn't read that.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:10 PM] * jemler ducks
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:10 PM] <DesertRose> A trilogy of some pretty heinous, major stuff, too.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:14 PM] <the_Bee> I wonder if Kelson was a little bit relieved once the mourning period was over. If Sidana had lived, he wouldn't have been free to marry a Deryni queen.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:38 PM] <Jerusha> Morgan will NOT die, EVER
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:23:42 PM] <Shiral> Kelric will become the Duke, but he'll have awfully big shoes to fill
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:24:08 PM] <Jerusha> I have a dragon to prove it
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:24:16 PM] <DesertRose> Kelson was pretty upset over Sidana's death. It worked out better for him in the end, though.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:24:20 PM] <KK> Yep. But I don't plan to write that far into the future, unless perhaps it's a short story.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:24:23 PM] <Evie> No, no, Jerusha, Joram just goes all Twinkle Jedi and continues to live on like Duncan, and if I go to Endor, he'll appear while I'm watching fireworks. ;-)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:24:30 PM] <jemler> i forget, did they awaken Araxies Haldane Potential?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:24:52 PM] <Shiral> Well you know, KK.... That just is throwing down the FanFic gauntlet. =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:25:26 PM] <the_Bee> I'm sure Morgan would be very happy if he outlived Kelson.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:25:33 PM] <the_Bee> UNhappy
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:25:36 PM] <Evie> I thought for a few bad moments that Jerusha was going to kill Alaric off in a fanfic, but he got over it.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:25:45 PM] <Jerusha> That depends on how that happens
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:26:14 PM] <jemler> Fanfic! Thanks for reminding me. check out this story from BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22654281
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:26:20 PM] <Jerusha> I would never off Morgan; Kelson maybe, but not Morgan!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:26:43 PM] <Evie> We've got a pretty nice body of fanfic on the Forum board now, KK, so you need to finish CM3 so you can read some of it.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:27:12 PM] <Evie> LOL! I'm sure Kelson's relieved to hear that, Jerusha. Or not. ;-)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:27:25 PM] <Shiral> What? They want to off ME? But I'm the KING
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:27:39 PM] <Shiral> I have to produce an heir, first!"
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:27:43 PM] <Jerusha> But you have a son, Kelson, and Morgan is a great mentor
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:27:47 PM] <the_Bee> and kings die like everyone else.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:27:55 PM] <jemler> Ifor, Imre, Javan, Rhys.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:28:07 PM] <Jerusha> Just as George RR Martin
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:28:12 PM] <Evie> Yes, little Prince Javan's going to have a lot to live up to, coming after Kelson the Great.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:28:39 PM] <jemler> Javan, the Just OK.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:28:42 PM] <Shiral> Give him a chance to come of age at least before you off his Papa
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:28:56 PM] <Shiral> Javan the Pretty Good
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:29:12 PM] <DesertRose> Better than Javan the Tragic.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:29:25 PM] <cynicalmedic> Or Javan the Mad
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:29:32 PM] <DesertRose> Poor assassinated king.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:29:38 PM] <the_Bee> I wonder who wrote down JavanI's story for Kelson to read it.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:29:40 PM] <Shiral> Or Imre the Little Rotter
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:29:51 PM] <jemler> Morgan family tree: Alaric, Kelric, Daffy.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:29:53 PM] <Kelric> Heh. you mentioning George RR Martin makes me think of a joke I heard at a Game store a few days ago.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:03 PM] <jemler> do tell
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:03 PM] <Kelric> Why doesn't George RR Martin have a Twitter account?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:20 PM] <jemler> he killed off all his characters?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:29 PM] <Kelric> he killed off all 140 characters.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:31 PM] <Shiral> He's too busy writing?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:36 PM] <Evie> LOL, Kelric
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:39 PM] <DesertRose> Cute, Kelric.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:45 PM] <Jerusha> Winter comes and no one is left to notice
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:46 PM] <Kelric> can't claim it.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:55 PM] <DesertRose> It's funny, though.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:30:59 PM] <jemler> Winter is coming
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:31:54 PM] <the_Bee> It usually does
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:32:20 PM] <jemler> Stark family motto, GoT
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:32:26 PM] <Jerusha> It comes too soon up north and lasts way too long
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:32:31 PM] <DesertRose> I wish winter were coming, but at least it's not as hot as it's liable to get later in the summer.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:32:48 PM] <DesertRose>
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:32:54 PM] <Jerusha> No no no, DR!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:32:55 PM] <cynicalmedic> BRB - my idiot children can't find the whipped cream for their pie.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:33:07 PM] <Jerusha> Let them eat cake
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:33:16 PM] <DesertRose> Well, I live in Florida. Winter doesn't really exist here.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:33:36 PM] <DesertRose> And I have a car with a broken A/C that 's not likely to get fixed.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:33:44 PM] <Jerusha> bummer
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:33:44 PM] <DesertRose> So summer is not fun time for me.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:33:48 PM] <the_Bee> bummer
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:34:39 PM] <cynicalmedic> back - good grief, you might think a paramedic, an engineer, and our captain might be able to locate the bowl of whipped cream.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:34:43 PM] <DesertRose> The A/C needs replacing entirely, and that's $1000 I don't have and even if I did, I think I'd just use it for a down payment on a newer car with a functioning A/C.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:35:13 PM] <DesertRose> This car has been a pain in the neck.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:35:34 PM] <jemler> humvee?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:35:43 PM] <DesertRose> No, a Mazda 626.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:35:59 PM] <the_Bee> what year?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:36:03 PM] <DesertRose> 2000.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:36:18 PM] <jemler> humvee, the ugliest cars i've ever seen. what did an Edsel look like?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:36:27 PM] <the_Bee> unlucky 13 years old
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:36:37 PM] <DesertRose> What's funny is my last car was a 1997 Mazda 626 and it was great. But this car has been a huge bother practically from the day I drove it home.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:36:41 PM] <Jerusha> Sounds like it
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:36:42 PM] <KK> Edsel: the Mercury that sucked a lemon.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:36:49 PM] <Jerusha> is time for a new car, DR
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:37:15 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, yes it is. As soon as I have the money together for a down payment on a replacement car, you can bet I will be getting a newer car.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:37:45 PM] <Evie> so how are our heroes this week, KK?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:38:02 PM] <KK> Enduring summer w/o AC hwere you live sounds like a seriously Bad Thing.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:38:11 PM] <the_Bee> Do you know what to look out for? or know someone who does?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:38:47 PM] <DesertRose> My stepdad should be able to help me find a better car when I can afford to get one.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:38:58 PM] <the_Bee>
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:39:30 PM] <the_Bee> What kind of car would Morgan drive?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:39:32 PM] <DesertRose> Well, I have A/C in my apartment and really good maintenance/management who will fix stuff like that extremely quickly.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:39:51 PM] <KK> I've plowed through to the point where Alaric & co. have retrieved the bodies and are getting ready to head back to Rhemuth, hwere Brion has arrived with his new queen. Now I go back and polish on second pass, layering in more details. and break this chunk into about 3 chapters.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:39:55 PM] <DesertRose> It just sucks when I have to go somewhere.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:39:56 PM] <Shiral> A R'Kassan, Bee
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:02 PM] <DesertRose> Yay!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:13 PM] <Evie> I don't know about Morgan's car, but I once dreamed he and Duncan were riding Harleys and dressed in black leather. ;-)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:33 PM] <Shiral> That sounds right for Alaric at about age 21
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:36 PM] <Evie> sounds like progress, KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:40 PM] <cynicalmedic> One of the classic street rods, Bee - a GTO or something like that. No Japanese imports for our Alaric
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:43 PM] <DesertRose> Morgan would drive something I got to see when I was in Charleston last weekend. A 1979 black Corvette.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:47 PM] <Jerusha> Morgan in black leather, yah!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:52 PM] <KK> Motorcycle leathers bear a great familial resemblance to riding leathers. Just no zippers.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:40:57 PM] <jemler> but duncan had a purple yanulke on his head right?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:41:03 PM] <Shiral> Not least because we don't know if there's a Japan in KK's Universe
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:41:34 PM] <Jerusha> Maybe Morgan could drive a black Morgan
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:41:42 PM] <DesertRose> One of my uncle's friends restored (beautifully) a 1979 Corvette. Gorgeous, gorgeous car.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:41:53 PM] <cynicalmedic> Derry would probably be a Formula One driver
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:42:08 PM] <Evie> with an all female pit crew?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:42:08 PM] <DesertRose> Derry would definitely be more of a gearhead than Morgan.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:42:09 PM] <Jerusha> I can see that, CM
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:42:28 PM] <jemler> japan? harleys are american.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:42:32 PM] <Evie> speaking of Derry, I set mini-Derry's curls last night, KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:42:40 PM] <cynicalmedic> Most likely, Evie
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:43:06 PM] <Jerusha> Is Derry dealing with it OK, Evie?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:43:25 PM] <Shiral> He probably complains about having to sleep in curlers
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:43:27 PM] <KK> Ah. You hadn't posted pics yet, as of about 4 PM.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:43:28 PM] <Jerusha> He will not want Morgan to know
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:43:29 PM] <the_Bee> any pics yet?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:43:38 PM] <Evie> they're posted, KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:43:59 PM] <Evie> http://www.rhemuthcastle.com/index.php/topic,844.msg7920.html#new
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:44:22 PM] <Evie> He didn't have to stay in the curlers overnight, after all.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:44:43 PM] <Shiral> How could he have explained them to the castle staff? =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:44:45 PM] <Evie> I got a late start on curling his hair, though. We spent most of yesterday in the ER. But everything's fine now.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:44:56 PM] <Jerusha> What? ER?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:45:02 PM] <DesertRose> Why did y'all have to go to the ER, Evie?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:45:05 PM] <DesertRose> O.o
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:45:13 PM] <Shiral> Did anyone slice off body parts?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:45:24 PM] <Jerusha> No one lost a head?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:45:40 PM] <jemler> bris gone bad?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:46:05 PM] <Evie> No, DH woke up with his heart ticking irregularly. But BP is good, no signs of a heart attack or anything like that. They gave him the lowest dose of a beta-blocker and he's got a follow up appointment in a few days
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:46:31 PM] <cynicalmedic> A little afib or flutter?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:46:37 PM] <the_Bee> ?me sends healling woodgies to Evie's DH
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:46:44 PM] <KK> Yike, glad he's ok. But Derry's curls look amazing.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:46:48 PM] <DesertRose> Yikes, Evie.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:47:04 PM] <cynicalmedic> Glad he's okay, though
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:47:10 PM] <Jerusha> Is DH feeling OK now?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:47:22 PM] <KK> I wonder if ou could jerry-rig a curling iron to deal with those uncurled ends.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:47:32 PM] <Evie> He feels fine. He felt fine yesterday too. Occasional mild dizziness, but not much.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:47:37 PM] <DesertRose> Good.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:47:50 PM] <Jerusha> Would that be a Derry-rig?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:47:58 PM] * DesertRose facepalms.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:48:02 PM] <jemler> heat a pair of tweezers and try that?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:48:06 PM] <Evie> Ever since I wrapped the ponytail in the fake leather, the few straight ends aren't all that visible anymore
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:48:08 PM] <Shiral> LOL JErusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:48:18 PM] <Evie> THough I could go back and curl just those ends and dip them in boiling water again
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:48:30 PM] <jemler> no, that's a Derry-do rag.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:48:43 PM] <KK> It actually doesn't look half-bad with the thick curls. Good padding under a helm.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:49:02 PM] * DesertRose loads a trebuchet with sardines and lobs them at jemler.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:49:04 PM] <Evie> I figured the curls came out just the right scale.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:49:06 PM] <Shiral> He looks a bit....stern for Derry. I've always thought Derry would look more like Father Nivard
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:49:28 PM] <Jerusha> Maybe not smiling all the time after Wencit
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:49:34 PM] <Shiral> More boyish, though
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:49:40 PM] <Evie> The problem with grinning figures is that they always smile even when a smile is inappropriate, which makes doing photostories with them harder.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:49:44 PM] <jemler> Uncle Seandry! Who does your hair!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:50:14 PM] <Shiral> "We're doing a Requiem Mass! WHY is Father Nivard smiling that way?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:50:15 PM] <Evie> So the more neutral expressions tend to photograph different emotions better. But his lips could look less stern after a repaint, I think.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:50:34 PM] <Evie> That dark line between them makes them look rather harsh, but the actual lip shape needn't be
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:50:41 PM] <the_Bee> Is that a rug in the background?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:50:53 PM] <Shiral> Briony might have fun with "Uncle Seandry's" hair.... =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:51:06 PM] <Evie> Of which photo, Bee? There's a tapestry pillow in the background of the first photos
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:51:17 PM] <the_Bee> Derry's curlers
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:51:26 PM] <Evie> yes, that's a tapestry pillow
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:51:37 PM] <jemler> is that luke in the pics?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:51:41 PM] <Shiral> He just hopes nobody at Castle Coroth EVER finds his makeup kit
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:51:41 PM] <Evie> Yes
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:01 PM] <DesertRose> Is Gigi camera-shy or just less of a ham than Luke?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:05 PM] <jemler> looks like he's thinking 'Lunch'
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:20 PM] <Evie> Less of a ham. I have some photos of her, but she tends not to intrude on everything I do the way Luke does.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:28 PM] <KK> Fortunately, it was a perm, not a nightly ritual. I remember sleeping in curlers as a teenager.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:33 PM] <Evie> she doesn't mind having her picture taken, though
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:36 PM] <Shiral> Dmitri is another one who likes to include himself in phots
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:38 PM] <Shiral> Photos
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:52:53 PM] <Evie> Luke has to be at the center of all things.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:53:00 PM] <DesertRose> I slept in curlers in my adolescent years too, and I've been known to do pincurls even as an adult.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:53:09 PM] <Evie> the only reason he's not pestering me right now is that my folks are visiting, so he's into their stuff
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:53:12 PM] <Shiral> Dmitri is a feline incarnation of Shiva the Destroyer
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:53:32 PM] <Jerusha> Dmitri sounds like my type of guy
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:53:41 PM] <cynicalmedic> I have basement cat, too - she leads the dogs into sin.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:53:51 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, CM.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:54:00 PM] <jemler> like they need a leader!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:54:06 PM] <Jerusha> My dogs don't need anyone to lead them on
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:54:09 PM] <Shiral> Don't let that cute innocent expression of his fool you--he'd like to be Czar of all the Russias
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:54:19 PM] <Evie> I have an old tube sock with the toe cut out and the sock rolled up like a doughnut. I sometimes put my hair up in a high ponytail, dampen it slightly, then roll all the hair up on that in a very high bun so that i wake up with ringlet curls and waves.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:54:25 PM] <Jerusha> Dmitri the Great
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:54:28 PM] <DesertRose> My parents have one of each, a basement cat (Merlin) and a ceiling cat (PJ). PJ is really well behaved, and Merlin is a menace.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:54:56 PM] <Shiral> Menace, yeah that fits
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:55:00 PM] <Evie> Gigi is my ceiling cat
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:55:10 PM] <cynicalmedic> Her name is Whisper, and she is solid black. Her favorite game is intimidate the dogs
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:55:15 PM] <Evie> Luke isn't exactly basement cat. he's more like...Loki, maybe?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:55:18 PM] <Shiral> Francesca is mine, although she likes to lie on the Stereo receiver
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:55:24 PM] <Evie> or Puck
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:55:25 PM] * jemler has a visual of Tom and Jerry cartoons, when that little dog scares Tom to the ceiling.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:55:44 PM] <DesertRose> Merlin would be a really great cat if he'd learn not to bite everything that comes within range; he's very entertaining, but he likes to bite too much for my tastes.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:56:02 PM] <DesertRose> I know somebody who named a cat Loki. I told them they were borrowing trouble.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:56:14 PM] <Jerusha> Someday I may have a cat, just not right now
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:56:15 PM] <cynicalmedic> The real ruler of the house is the ferret, who terrorizes all - they've all learned to fear his bite.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:56:25 PM] <Evie>
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:56:30 PM] <jemler> my aunt had a cat nemed Trouble!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:56:34 PM] <the_Bee> Melantha is definitely a homecat. Once in a while she goes out into the hallway, but as soon as the door closes behing her, she wants back in.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:56:34 PM] <KK> Ferrets can bite pretty hard.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:57:14 PM] <Shiral> I suspect Dmitri of being capable of Feline Osmosis when it comes to window screens. When he wants to be OUT, he wants to be out
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:57:20 PM] <cynicalmedic> Mine is very good with people - dogs and cats are another story.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:57:37 PM] <DesertRose> PJ is sweet, although she's not really cuddly. She likes to be petted and she'll show up and rub around your ankles, but she doesn't really like to be held or in a lap.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:57:47 PM] <the_Bee> Melantha biters me.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:57:56 PM] <jemler> iter back
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:58:05 PM] <Jerusha> Ouch
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:58:10 PM] <jemler> biter back, sorry
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:58:15 PM] <Shiral> Just scrolled down to the Derry in Curlers pic--he DOES look like a porcupine!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:58:28 PM] <the_Bee> fur doesn't taste good.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:58:44 PM] <Jerusha> Gets stuck between your teeth
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:58:55 PM] <Evie> Gigi is extremely gentle and doesn't bite, but if she wants your attention because she wants to be petted, she will sometimes very gently take my hand or arm between her teeth with just enough pressure so that I notice she is doing it.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:59:05 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, cat fur doesn't go in people's mouths.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:59:10 PM] <Shiral> Francesca likes to sit in my lap as long as it's HER idea. She doesn't like to be picked up, but sometimes, I can't resist
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:59:27 PM] <DesertRose> That's kind of cute, Evie.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:59:34 PM] <KK> My first thought was actually Medusa, not porcupine.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:59:34 PM] <the_Bee> Melantha did that to my finger when we first met at the shelter.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:59:50 PM] <Evie> She has only actually nipped me once, and that was when I didn't respond to the gentle "love nibble"
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [07:59:59 PM] <Shiral> I was wondering where all that new statuary was from in Coroth....
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:00:01 PM] <jemler> a cat looks at you as if to say : "I think, you do"
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:00:02 PM] <Evie> but even that was barely a nip
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:00:21 PM] <Evie> Yeah, sort of a spiky Medusa, right?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:00:26 PM] <the_Bee> Cats don't realize we don't have protective fur to cushion love-bites.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:00:37 PM] <Shiral> Or like a really complicated seashell =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:00:47 PM] <cynicalmedic> Poor Derry - at least the ordeal is over.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:01:10 PM] <Shiral> Wencit of Torenth as Hairdresser
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:01:15 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, I think that may be Merlin's problem. He expects there to be fur padding on his playmates like on his littermates, and he hasn't quite sorted out that humans don't have fur.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:01:18 PM] <jemler> until Evie decides he needs another perm.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:01:28 PM] <Evie> I was a bit worried when I first took the pins out, but it turned out OK. It looked even bushier at first than those photos with it loose show.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:02:13 PM] <DesertRose> Evie, I was thinking that the Derry figure looks rather like a Tom Cruise head sculpt. Am I out of it?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:02:13 PM] <Evie> I sat him in my lap and held the curls down for a minute or two, and it tamed down enough for me to take those photos
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:03 PM] <Evie> It's a Japanese action figure, and I don't know if their head sculpts are based on anyone in particular. he had molded-on hair originally, but the person I got him from shaved that vinyl hair off and rooted in doll hair.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:06 PM] Join derynifanatic64 has joined this channel (Mibbit@4CA975.06D306.44B519.EBF9F3).
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:08 PM] <KK> I noticed the nose profile. Sort of like Tom Cruise before his nose job.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:20 PM] <the_Bee> Hi DF
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:20 PM] <jemler> hi df
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:23 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, okay. So I am out of it.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:23 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi all
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:27 PM] <Shiral> Hello DF
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:27 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi DF
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:28 PM] <DesertRose> Hi derynifanatic64.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:34 PM] <Jerusha> Hi DF 64
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:41 PM] <Evie> It might have been inspired by Tom Cruise, but without seeing what it looked like originally before she altered it, I can't say for sure.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:50 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12what's all this talk of noses?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:57 PM] <Evie> Derry's action figure
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:03:59 PM] <DesertRose> Evie's action figure project.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:04:00 PM] <KK> Did she change the nose?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:04:07 PM] <Evie> No, just the hair
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:04:39 PM] <Evie> But I haven't seen the original packaging or an ad for it, and you can sometimes tell from that if it's meant to be modeled on a celebrity or not
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:04:48 PM] <DesertRose> Ah, I see.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:05:08 PM] <KK> That was pretty ambitious, to shave off the molded hair and root proper hair. She did a good job.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:05:28 PM] <Evie> there are quite a few sculpts out there modeled on Tom Cruise, so it wouldn't surprise me if this one wasn't at least inspired by his features.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:06:10 PM] <Evie> He's better rooted than most off-the-shelf figures, actually. The hair is rooted in so closely together, it's hard to dig in and find the holes in the vinyl
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:06:31 PM] <Jerusha> That would take a lot of patience
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:07:01 PM] <Evie> It can take several hours...days...weeks, depending on your free time and how much you can stand to do in a sitting
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:07:34 PM] <Evie> I've only rooted in small sections of hair, and that was more than enough for me
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:07:36 PM] <Shiral> Patience I certainly don't have!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:07:44 PM] <the_Bee> me neither
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:07:45 PM] <Evie> and I can't do nearly as neat a job as she does.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:07:48 PM] <cynicalmedic> Me either
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:08:07 PM] <Evie> I can hand stitch a garment all day long, but I'm ready to throw heads against the wall after an hour of rooting.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:08:17 PM] <Evie> and not necessarily the vinyl head I'm holding!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:08:27 PM] <Shiral> Doll, human or cat heads, Evie? =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:08:30 PM] <Jerusha> How appropriate, Evie
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:08:52 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:D
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:08:53 PM] <the_Bee> and I can spend hours on something that interests me, but I'm not good with the dexterity.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:08:58 PM] <Evie> I nearly threw Derry's tunic against the wall a time or two though. That collar is all jacked up under that trim.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:09:20 PM] <Shiral> I think I'll stick to building miniature houses, thanks awfully!\
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:09:39 PM] <Evie> and then I found out it was almost too small. almost.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:09:50 PM] <Evie> I would have MADE it fit, after all that work!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:10:04 PM] <cynicalmedic> I'll stick to tie dye and the furniture refinishing
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:10:12 PM] <Evie> "You WILL wear this if it means having to send you to Wencit to remove your head and pop it back on after!"
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:10:18 PM] <Shiral> Uncle Seandry needs to lay off drinking so much wine, then. =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:10:44 PM] <Evie> I was just praying it would go back on over the curly hair.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:10:56 PM] <Evie> the neck opening is just barely wide enough
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:10:59 PM] <the_Bee> I thought he preferred ale.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:11:12 PM] <Evie> I have four ale tankards on order.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:11:45 PM] <Evie> also some lovely green wineglasses that look very much like photos of medieval wine glasses I've seen on a museum website
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:11:52 PM] <Jerusha> It takes four tankards to get the tunic on?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:12:19 PM] <the_Bee> ini-size tankards or full size?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:12:37 PM] <Evie> Luke has discovered I am sitting here chatting without his aid, and has come to rectify that problem
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:12:37 PM] <Jerusha> Who has to drink them to get the tunic on?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:12:51 PM] <Shiral> Such a helpful cat
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:06 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Luke!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:08 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hey Luke
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:13 PM] <Evie> I don't know how I could get by without him. ;-)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:15 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Like
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:19 PM] <Jerusha> Luke, I mean
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:20 PM] <Shiral> Evie seem to now be Derry's Squire. =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:28 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12next time ask luke's permission
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:36 PM] <Evie> there are worse jobs, Shiral
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:13:48 PM] <Evie> I nearly typed Spiral. All those curls getting to me, I guess
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:14:54 PM] <Shiral> I'm too dizzy to think of it, Evie
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:14:58 PM] <Evie>
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:02 PM] Nick Shiral is now known as Spiral.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:07 PM] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:14 PM] Nick Spiral is now known as Shiral.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:29 PM] <Evie> I'd better get back to my family. They are leaving here at 4:00 am to head back to TX, so they'll probably be turning in early tonight.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:41 PM] <Evie> my parents, that is, not my DH and kids
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:43 PM] <Jerusha> That's early
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:48 PM] <Shiral> Our GOH has gone missing
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:48 PM] <the_Bee> KK, will we see more of Bronwyn in CM#? It felt as if she was created for the sole purpose of being killed off.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:15:56 PM] <Evie> yeah, they want to get through Birmingham before the rush hour hits
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:07 PM] <Shiral> That's an hour at which I get up then go straight back to bed because it's far too early
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:20 PM] <Evie> LOL! Me too, Spiral. ;-)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:20 PM] <KK> We'll see her a bit, but she's still very young.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:35 PM] <cynicalmedic> I have to go, too. The newest of my honorary nephews is trying to get my attention. Night all!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:40 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, see you, CM.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:41 PM] <Jerusha> I would like to see more of her.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:42 PM] Part cynicalmedic has left this channel.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:43 PM] <Evie> goodnight, CM
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:45 PM] <KK> Nighters, Evie.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:57 PM] <the_Bee> nighters, CM and Evie
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:57 PM] <Shiral> Well we know Bronwyn catches Kevin's eye pretty early in her life
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:16:57 PM] <Jerusha> Night, Evie!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:17:00 PM] <DesertRose> Night, Evie. Enjoy your family.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:17:04 PM] <Shiral> Bye CM and EVie
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:17:06 PM] <KK> Night, CM.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:17:11 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12bye
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:17:23 PM] <Evie> the corned beef and veggies DH is cooking is starting to torment me with the smell of dinner almost ready.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:17:26 PM] <Jerusha> So much of life to be lived cut short
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:17:51 PM] <Shiral> But then Dhugal wouldn't get to be Duke of Cassan if she and Kevin had lived
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:18:00 PM] <Jerusha> She would have been an excellent Duchess of Cassan
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:18:17 PM] <Evie> see y'all later! (I'll keep logged in so I can save the transcript on my hard drive, assuming Icechat doesn't kick me off for inactivity.)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:18:21 PM] <Shiral> Probably the mother of lots of little McLains
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:18:27 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12I still wonder what happened to bethane
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:18:31 PM] <the_Bee> People should not be killed off for other people's convenience.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:19:18 PM] <Jerusha> Yet Kevin would have gone with Jared to fight Wencit. and Bronwyn might have been a very young widow
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:19:33 PM] <KK> I suspect she might have made herself scarce, once she learned that Bronwyn had died.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:19:46 PM] <Shiral> Very true, although perhaps Kevin might have made a daring escape to go warn the King
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:20:02 PM] <Jerusha> I would have hoped so, but...
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:20:08 PM] <DesertRose> Well, a number of fictional people get killed off for the author's convenience. I had to kill off a character in my original story because, alive, she complicated the plotline too much.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:20:18 PM] <DesertRose> A couple of the other characters were a little hacked off at me for that.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:20:50 PM] <Jerusha> Desert RR Rose?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:20:51 PM] <the_Bee> Someone gave the name "women in Refrigerators to describe women who are killed off just for the effect their death has on the hero.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:21:20 PM] <KK> When I first envisioned Bronwyn, she was just for the convenience of the story.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:21:29 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, I haven't read any GRRM, but I don't think I'm as bad as he is for killing people off.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:24:16 PM] <Shiral> Probably not
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:24:42 PM] <Shiral> But authors get to do on the page what people can't do legally. =o)
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:24:56 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, true.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:25:00 PM] <Jerusha> Thank goodness
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:25:01 PM] <Shiral> Think of all the people who die in a Shakespeare play
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:25:12 PM] <DesertRose> I made her die in childbirth, which in a medieval-ish society, was not terribly unusual.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:25:44 PM] <DesertRose> True, Shiral. Shakespeare might even have been worse than GRRM for killing people off, at least in the tragedies and some of the histories.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:26:21 PM] <the_Bee> A tragedy ends with a death; a comedy ends with a wedding.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:26:25 PM] <Shiral> In Hamlet, you have Hamlet's father, Polonius, Ophelia, Laertes Gertrude, Claudius and finally Hamlet
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:26:31 PM] <Shiral> That's quite a body count.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:26:38 PM] <DesertRose> Indeed.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:09 PM] <Jerusha> I must be off. Bye everyone!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:10 PM] <Shiral> Childbirth is a pretty plausible way to kill off a female character
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:15 PM] <Shiral> Bye, Jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:15 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, see you, Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:16 PM] <the_Bee> bye Jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:25 PM] <jemler> nite jerusha
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:30 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, although the father of her child was not real happy in my direction.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:38 PM] Quit Jerusha has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:58 PM] <KK> I've found it useful, Shiral.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:58 PM] <the_Bee> Did the child survive?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:27:58 PM] <Shiral> Well yes that IS hard on the survivors who loved the woman
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:28:00 PM] <DesertRose> Nor was her daughter, for that matter.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:28:10 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, the child is the main character of the story.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:28:24 PM] <Shiral> Yes. After all, Alyce ultimately dies of childbirth complications
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:28:54 PM] <DesertRose> It happened a lot back then; it still happens occasionally today.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:29:06 PM] <jemler> in GoT, tywin lannisters wife died birthing tyrion. tywin never forgave him.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:29:55 PM] <Shiral> Fortunately Evaine lived through childbirth.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:00 PM] <KK> That's what's happened to Xenia, and that's what's happened to the gal whose monster-chid is cut from her belly, when she's been in labor too long.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:10 PM] <DesertRose> Four times, for Evaine.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:21 PM] <Shiral> Monster child, KK??
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:40 PM] <jemler> spoiler alert!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:44 PM] <KK> It's greatly deformed, with huge head and other unspecified deformities.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:48 PM] <DesertRose> Oh dear.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:55 PM] <the_Bee> whose child is it?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:30:57 PM] <Shiral> Hopefully, Araxie will be a woman whose built for mother hood
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:31:22 PM] <Shiral> Does she survive the birth, or....?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:31:23 PM] <KK> I think it was the Marluk's second wife. We hear it reported.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:31:27 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, Kelson will be one severely unhappy king if he loses Araxie in childbirth or for ANY reason before they're old.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:31:29 PM] <Shiral> Ah
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:32:03 PM] <KK> I'd have to check my notes to tell you for certain, at this point.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:32:26 PM] <Shiral> So Charissa has already been born, then?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:32:26 PM] <the_Bee> When I role-played Evaine she was transported to another world just as she was about to die bearing Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:32:52 PM] <DesertRose> I think Charissa was the Marluk's first wife's daughter, yes?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:33:11 PM] <KK> Oh yes. She's present when Brion kills her father, remember? That's going to happen a couple of chapters ahead.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:33:21 PM] <Shiral> Hearing what happened to her Step-Mother would put one right off of motherhood.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:33:32 PM] <Shiral> Oh that's right. Forgetting my time-line
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:33:40 PM] * Shiral facepalms
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:34:19 PM] <the_Bee> It's hard to facepalm yourself when you're wearing glasses.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:34:32 PM] <jemler> she was only 11 when hogan died, right?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:34:35 PM] <Shiral> Don't want to do it too vigorously
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:34:41 PM] <DesertRose> Yes. It becomes either a forehead-palm or a smear on your lenses.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:35:25 PM] <jemler> i'll just have someone smack me in the head.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:35:40 PM] <Evie> now that I'm back, I'll be glad to smack you, jemler
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:35:41 PM] <DesertRose> People will get in line if you keep making horrible puns, jemler.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:35:47 PM] <Shiral> Plenty of people around here to provide that service, Jemler
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:36:07 PM] <jemler> i know. take a number.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:36:11 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Evie and Shiral, great minds.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:36:18 PM] <DesertRose> Rehi, Evie.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:36:24 PM] * Shiral looks and sees her ticket is no. 666
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:36:27 PM] <Evie> it would be my privilege to serve you in that way, jemler
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:36:30 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12poor jemler
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:37:41 PM] <Shiral> He's earned it a couple of times
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:38:02 PM] <Shiral> So is the Marluk already a threat on the horizon, KK?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:38:04 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:D
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[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:40:28 PM] <KK> He's been lurking through several books. I've incorporated the Swords Against the Marluk story mostly intact.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:40:30 PM] Join Evie has joined this channel (~IceChat77@OWIRCN-3bcbd8b9.al.charter.com).
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:40:56 PM] <the_Bee> WB Evie
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:41:44 PM] <Shiral> Poor Brion doesn't get to stay home in a state of domestic bliss for long.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:41:45 PM] <DesertRose> Ah, okay. I've never actually read Swords.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:42:18 PM] <the_Bee> I've only read the one from Charissa's POV.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:42:24 PM] <DesertRose> Legacy.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:42:33 PM] <KK> Good. That was my first short piece in the Deryni universe, and I got some details wrong, so I've never had it reprinted.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:42:55 PM] <KK> That's Swords.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:43:19 PM] * Shiral guiltily hides Flashing Swords behind her back
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:43:19 PM] <DesertRose> Well, that's what the editorial staff are for, to catch it when you mess up things like that.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:43:51 PM] <KK> Anyway, by next week, I should have covered that gap and be charging on toward Jehana's flight to the convent and Kelson's eventual birth.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:43:52 PM] <DesertRose> Although I've read a few books where the editors appear to have fallen asleep on the job.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:44:21 PM] <KK> Wouldn't have caught that, because it hadn't happened yet.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:44:28 PM] * Shiral pricks her little ears happily
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[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:44:34 PM] <the_Bee> I don't think it's humanly possible to write a long series without winding up with a few contradictions.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:44:58 PM] <DesertRose> Have you decided how far toward the beginning of Deryni Rising you're going to bring CM3?
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:45:08 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, I see.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:45:39 PM] <KK> It's very hard. Thanks God for the Codex. Rob brought together a whole lot of my notes and fleshed out background details, mostly the way I was planning.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:45:47 PM] <KK> This book ends with Kelson's birth.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:45:58 PM] <DesertRose> Ah.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:16 PM] <DesertRose> So you're in the home stretch now with the writing, then.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:28 PM] <KK> And on that note, almost time for GoT, and I want to make a bowl of Ramen before it starts.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:36 PM] <DesertRose> LOL at the ramen.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:39 PM] <Shiral> There's daylight at the end of the tunnel and it's not a train
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:39 PM] <KK> Definitely in the home stretch--at last!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:44 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12yeah
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:51 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, take care and have a good week. Thanks for coming to see us!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:53 PM] <Shiral> Happy writing, KK and enjoy the Ramen
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:58 PM] <KK> See you guys next week.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:46:59 PM] <Shiral> =o) ANd the GOT
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:03 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12nite
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:08 PM] * the_Bee invokes the FlyingSpaghetti Monster to guard the ramen.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:12 PM] <Shiral> Night, KK
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:14 PM] <DesertRose> Pet the kitties and puppies from me!
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:17 PM] <the_Bee> bye KK, glas you came
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:26 PM] <jemler> nite kk
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:28 PM] <Shiral> may He Touch you with his Noodly Appendage
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:29 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, June 09, 2013] [08:47:52 PM] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: ).