KKChat -- 19 January 2025

[Bynw]

please note that this chat is somewhat incomplete due to technical difficulties with the logging



[18:33] * web60 is now known as KK
[18:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> The only Microsoft app that I can't find an acceptable substitute for that might make me subscribe on my own dime might be Microsoft Publisher, but I don't use that enough to really warrant the cost of a personal subscription.
[18:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> heya KK, glad your computer is running. 🙂
[18:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Hi KK
[18:33] <The_Bee> I have no idea.  I was looking for a word replacement.  Hi KK
[18:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Hello KK
[18:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Hi KK
[18:34] <chris> Hi KK
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I've only seen Mobi mentioned as an ebook format, Bee.
[18:34] <KK> Sorry I'm late. Computer just went through one of the longest update cycles ever, including 4 restarts.
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Bee  Sign into Google Docs.  You can do almost every thing there that you can do with WORD
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> KK, what word processing program do you use to write?
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> My goodness
[18:35] <chris> on this account tonight since i'm watching the nfl playoffs
[18:35] <KK> Word.  Bee, why are you looking for something else?
[18:35] <The_Bee> Mobi is promising to "make my computer fast.  At least think it's Mobi.
[18:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I use Google Docs via my laptop, my work PC, my tablet, and my phone. Documents sync seamlessly since they are stored on Google Drive.
[18:35] <chris> wordpad is being discontinued and removed from windows
[18:36] <The_Bee> Microsoft no longer has Wordpad.  I'm looking for another way to create documents.
[18:36] <chris> i wouldn't trust that Bee
[18:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> So I can work on a chapter at home, continue on my work PC, go off to lunch and keep writing on my tablet, make a few typo corrections on my phone, etc.
[18:37] <The_Bee> I wouldn't trust any bee but myself.
[18:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Bee, hard pass on that one
[18:37] <chris> anything promising to make your computer fast is usually a scam
[18:38] <The_Bee> Google Docs seems promising.
[18:38] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> https://win7games.com/#wordpad has Wordpad. I've gotten Minesweeper from the same site, I believe.
[18:38] <The_Bee> I used to have awordperfect disc, if I can find it.
[18:38] <chris> that's ancient software
[18:38] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Go with Google Docs. It's harmless if you don't mind the snooping.
[18:39] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If the software is too old, it won't work on a modern OS
[18:39] <KK> What computer do you have, Bee?
[18:39] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oy, the very first computer program I bought was WordPerfect 4.2.
[18:39] <The_Bee> an Acer.
[18:39] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> You didn't even need a hard drive to run it
[18:40] <KK> Is anyone actually using Word Perfect anymore?
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I have a friend who uses it. But she used to work there, so she's always been a big fan.
[18:40] <KK> How old is it?
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> My apologies -- that site I mentioned is not one I've used before. I saw it recommended on a Reddit post last month.
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hi Everyone!
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hey Jerusha! 'sup?
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Hi Jerusha
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Not much
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> hi J
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Are your hamsters getting some good rest?
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> This. Unless you are writing for professional publication or are writing smut, it's not likely that you will have any issues from using Google Docs to write with.  (I mention the former since you might want to read the Terms and Conditions carefully to see if you are giving Google any rights over your work if you intend to publish it, and the latter because a FEW writers have com <clipped messag
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> plained about having stories removed from Google Docs, but it was usually because they violated Google's Terms and Conditions by writing content considered pornographic.)
[18:41] <The_Bee> several years and literally falling apart.  I jumped up to answer the doorbell, and the cord ws wrapped arounf my foot.
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Are you in Florida where it's warm
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> The hamsters are looking for little rain boots.  It poured today
[18:42] <KK> And the problem with Word is...?
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Hi Jerusha
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> KK, SHE DOESN'T H AVE WORD
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's expensive these days
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> oooh, sorry about that caps
[18:42] <The_Bee> I'm in Massachusetts. whaer it's raining.
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> OH Rain.  I want some!
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I am in Florida, but it has been cool.  I'm not complaining; in Tilden Lake the wind chill will be -40C tonight and tomorrow
[18:43] <KK> Ah. Situation doesn't sound promising. How "falling apart" is the Acer?
[18:43] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> She had wordpad which has been discontinued
[18:43] <The_Bee> We're expecting the first major snowstorm in three years.
[18:43] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> At least if Word doesn't come preinstalled, it's normally only available as a subscription now, unless like me you have a site license through your workplace
[18:43] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> -40°C and -40°F is the same temperature. Too Bloody Cold!
[18:43] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Yep
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> KK, she doesn't have Word.
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yikes, Jerusha!
[18:44] <The_Bee> I didn't know it was gone until I tried to use it.
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I pay for Microsoft 365  on a yearly basis.   but it does cover 5 computers
[18:44] <KK> Nezz? How can that be?
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> That's why we are wintering in Florida
[18:44] <chris> hi jerusha
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hi Bynw
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It might get cold even in North FL this coming week, but not that cold at least
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Glad you're where it's warm. Not going to be too many warm places this week
[18:45] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Our coastal part of Alabama could get snow this week, which is nearly unheard of
[18:45] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I light sweater for morning walkies.  I am not complaining
[18:45] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> https://www.thoughtco.com/fahrenheit-celsius-equivalents-609236
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Frostbite in minutes
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Depends on what you  cold
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479836521864888347/1330699847778701332/image.png?ex=678eee4e&is=678d9cce&hm=c2869c10e75e5e1fce4aca7b167bedd6000c4e019e8b76e29149da2833eade84&;
[18:46] <The_Bee> KK, the Acer is held together my duct tape, but it works.
[18:46] <chris> it's going to be cold here for the next few days
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Polar Vortex!!! Not a good thing
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Ooh, I would looooove those temperatures right now!
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> LOL
[18:46] <chris> lows below zero and highs in single digits
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Yikes Chris
[18:47] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> A single digit is not a high....
[18:47] <KK> Ouch, Bee! But at least if it still works.... Sounds lie the problem is the program being eliminated.
[18:47] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's higher than 0
[18:47] <chris> wednesday high will be around 30 so it will be better
[18:47] <KK> It's 26 here, and falling.
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> February '89... The high for the week was 0°F. The low every morning was -20
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Ouch
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> In Utah?
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Yeah
[18:48] <chris> it's 4 right now with a wind chill of -3
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Obviously bad enough that I still remember it 35 years later
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I would too
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I can not even imagine living where it is that cold.  I had lunch outside by the fish pond.
[18:49] <The_Bee> Mickey's asking to visit. BRB
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Did you share with the fish!
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Potpie says Hi to Mickey, Bee!
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> They had a nice two fist fulls of fish food
[18:50] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Any further fish cannon projectiles aimed at me, please redirect to Laurna
[18:50] <The_Bee> How high altitude in Utah?
[18:50] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Or at least her pond
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I was watching a video this past week that made me feel some sense of relief that I'm really not just being a lightweight in feeling frozen to my bones when the temperature drops below freezing here.  It was by a lady from Alaska who moved to the Southern US and who verifies that at the same degree on the thermometer, the temperature in Alaska feels warmer than the same temperatu <clipped messag
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> re down south because we have higher humidity that acts like an intensifier to the cold.  (Or for that matter, to heat as well.)
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Only for really bad puns
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Salt Lake City is at 4,265 ft (1,300 m). Other parts of the state are higher, I believe.
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I'm at about 4400 ft above sea level where I live.
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> I saw that too. Made sense
[18:52] <The_Bee> Mickey's on my bed now.
[18:52] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I suspect Alaska also has the familiarity effect. When it's been -30 F for a week, if it gets up to 0 F, it's balmy spring!
[18:53] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh yeah, *so* much colder where it's humid. I've finally hit the point where the cold in Utah doesn't bother me until it gets super ugly (>15°F). But someplace humid? *Brrrrrrrr*
[18:53] <chris> so true TM
[18:53] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh yeah, *so* much colder where it's humid. I've finally hit the point where the cold in Utah doesn't bother me until it gets super ugly (<15°F). But someplace humid? *Brrrrrrrr*
[18:53] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Also, if you have a cold stretch that is going to last for a while, you get more acclimated to it than if you have a 61F day one day and it's below freezing the very next day.  Which is what I experienced between yesterday and today.
[18:54] <The_Bee> typical New England weather
[18:54] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> And that also tends to lead to other lovely things like black ice on roads
[18:54] <chris> and i live in a plains state so we get wind chill in the winter by strong winds
[18:54] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hate black ice
[18:54] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> You are all making me want to curl up in a blanket
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Not as bad idea
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Include a few puppies, Laurna
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> lol
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Laurna, that's why I *am* curled up in a blanket. 🙂
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I'm sitting here in my living room wearing a wool poncho and crocheted scarf belted over a sweater. 😄
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> ...under 3 cats
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> But I'm toasty now
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> They make great blankets
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I have four puppy slipers covering my bare feet at the moement
[18:55] <chris> i'm wearing socks and slippers
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Any one of them Lyla?
[18:56] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Oh yes, Jerusha
[18:56] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Is she still a little monster?
[18:56] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> most assuridly
[18:56] <chris> the hardwood floors are cold in socks alone or bare feet
[18:56] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> My heart is glad!
[18:56] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I would loooove to be wearing my lovely fleecy socks right now, but having finally found some orthopedic shoes that make my feet *almost* not hurt at all, I don't want to take them off for any reason until it's time for bed.
[18:57] <KK> You guys down by the south coast are getting some really serious cold, aren't you? Even snow, in some places.
[18:57] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Yep
[18:57] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yes, it's supposed to get MORE snow south of me rather than north of me, for once!
[18:57] <chris> halftime baltimore ravens 10 buffalo bills 21
[18:57] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> It will stay north of me
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's bizarre to read of winter snow warnings for South Alabama
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Nothing like football in the snow
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> So far, Dallas has had more snow this year than we have here.
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479836521864888347/1330702981552930886/image.png?ex=678ef13a&is=678d9fba&hm=2db96a09388afe912d7a6c3ee6c020004814b491833f8528ed097a14499ddd0e&;
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I'm like "Did the weather get lost? Does it know it's wandered into Alabama?"
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Central Texas: Winter storm warning Monday into Tuesday.  New snow and sleet accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.  Austin, or Texas in general, does NOT handle snow or ice or cold well.
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Crazy weather. Maybe a Deryni weather worker gone rogue
[18:59] <KK> We got another inch or two earlier this afternoon. And I've been getting used to clumps of snow suddenly sliding down the roof. Neveer noticed it before. Of course, we've really not had snow for 2 years,
[18:59] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Not me, I'm only playing with weather in Grecotha. 😉
[18:59] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Baton Rouge Louisiana is forecast for "New snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible."
[18:59] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's a gray, overcast day in Rhemuth today. At least in the scene I was working on before chat started. 😄
[18:59] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Yikes
[18:59] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Too weird
[19:00] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Yeah, but your scene comes about 300 years later than mine. 😄
[19:00] <KK> In Baton Rouge?!
[19:00] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> That's a lot for Red Stick!
[19:01] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> I tell you it's a really crazy weather worker
[19:01] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hah, I was just sitting here wondering about Baton. Of course it's a stick. Duh. *slaps self on forehead*
[19:02] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Could we influence the weather worker with a hot toddy?
[19:02] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I like the name Boca Raton.  "Did y'all really mean to name your city 'Rat Mouth'? Y'all OK down there?!"
[19:02] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> If you put enough McRories Old in it
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[19:03] * Topic is 'Welcome to Deryni_Destinations. All things involving the Deryni and other works of Katherine Kurtz. Happy New Year!  Happy birthday to Alkari, derynifanatic64/DF64, DesertRose, and the other January birthdays!'
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[19:03] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I mean... Fathead?
[19:03] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Really?
[19:03] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> A very polite insult
[19:03] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Or the Grand Tetons must have been named by some very lonely fur trappers, since that translates to "Big Boobs."
[19:04] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I've seen the Grand Tetons. Those must have been seriously lonely trappers.
[19:04] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> They wanted to make a point
[19:04] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Rockets are launching from Boca Chica, TX. I'm not sure I should translate it.
[19:04] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh Geez...
[19:04] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> *angles the fish launcher away from TM and towards Jerusha*
[19:05] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> It's cold in the Grand Tetons. There's a .... nip in the air.
[19:05] * CambersGhost [discord] <jerusha2> holds out frying pan
[19:05] * anlarye () Quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
[19:05] * CambersGhost [discord] <stnezz> gets out the second fish launcher and loads... three, two one...!
[19:05] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Oh my!
[19:05] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> *sees the fish launcher being re-aimed*
[19:05] <The_Bee> I'm getting a message from an app called "Fast!"  I just looked at it today, and they're saying the trial hasalready ended.
[19:05] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> And ducks
[19:06] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hey, leave the ducks out of this! They didn't do anything!
[19:06] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> The_Bee: Truth in Advertising. Fast! indeed.
[19:06] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> We're launching ducks?
[19:06] <The_Bee> Maybe i tried it earlier and forgot.
[19:06] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Didn't you hear the quacking
[19:06] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> No, just the Buffalo Bills
[19:06] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Bee, don't buy any software someone is trying to push on you. If it looks like something you want, ask Chris
[19:07] <The_Bee> Good advice. Thanks
[19:07] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Too many scammers out there
[19:07] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Exactly!
[19:07] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Definitely ask Chris
[19:08] <KK> Yes, ask Chris.
[19:08] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Lot of malware out there that can hoover up your data just by you clicking a link to a website.
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> If it looks to good to be true, it probably is
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Best case scenario: all they get is your email address to sell to everyone and their dogs
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Especially the dogs with email addresses
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I guess it is too much to ask for DR to be with us.  But I do want to hear all about her first day across the pond.
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> You can't trust a dog with email. My apologies to Lyla.
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> DR is in England?
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's super late on that side of the Pond, especially for someone whose body clock is still adjusting
[19:09] <KK> Speaking of asking Chris, Aren't Iphones supposed to be relatively immune to viruses?
[19:10] <~bynw> yes DR is in England
[19:10] <The_Bee> I'm not sure how many anti-virus programs I have.  Is AVG reliable?
[19:10] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Hope she's catching up on her sleep. She was quite a bit behind
[19:10] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yes, she's there for a few weeks, I think
[19:10] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Wonderful for DR!
[19:10] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Wishing her great fun in her days of vacation
[19:10] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> iphones aren't 100% anti-virus, but they're a lot better.
[19:10] <~bynw> and yes iPhones and most Apple products aren't very likely to get a virus ... possible yes but unlikely
[19:11] <~bynw> AVG is good Bee
[19:11] * ~bynw will be back on Chris shortly ... up looking at his computer because it's halftime
[19:11] <The_Bee> I bet Carys misses DR.
[19:11] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> But you don't want multiple antivirus programs, Bee. Find a decent one and stick to it. Sometimes if you have two or more, they try to counteract each other
[19:12] <~bynw> right one only
[19:12] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Causes all kinds of problems
[19:12] <The_Bee> So I've heard.
[19:12] <KK> What's the best one, Chris?
[19:12] <~bynw> and really microfts built in one Windows Defender works well now days ... there was a time when it was junk and you needed AVG or something else but not any more
[19:13] <The_Bee> Window Defender? noted.
[19:13] <KK> So I have Windows Defender, if my Windows has just updated?
[19:13] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> what's the score Chris?
[19:14] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It ought to come standard with Windows, I think, or at least on any relatively new Windows OS
[19:14] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's been a while since I had a computer that *didn't* automatically come with Windows Defender
[19:14] <The_Bee> I have three browsers: Firefox, Windows and Google.
[19:14] <~bynw> score at the half was 10 ravens and 21 bills
[19:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Thanks
[19:15] <~bynw> going back to the game
[19:15] <The_Bee> Which team are you cheering for, chris?
[19:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Firefox and Google (if you mean Google Chrome) would be browsers. Windows would be your operating system.
[19:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Edge is the windows version
[19:16] <chris> The Bills
[19:16] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> "10 ravens and 21 bills" implies that at least one raven has at least 3 heads
[19:16] <The_Bee> oh yes. Microsoft edge. It keeps offering to do more than I understand.
[19:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I am not an edge fan
[19:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I glanced up at "10 ravens and 21 bills," automatically thought of bills as in terms of duck bills (i.e., beaks), and wondered about these two-headed ravens and why one had an extra bill.
[19:17] <chris> Yes KK windows defender is on all windows 11 computers and should be enabled unless you have something else installed doing antivirus
[19:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I use Avast
[19:18] <The_Bee> If I'm spending needless money, I 'd rather not.
[19:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Windows Defender is free.
[19:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I used to use and like Avast, but I think the last time I used it, it kept wanting me to add more and more paid add-on features, so I dropped it.
[19:18] <KK> Lol, Evie!
[19:18] <chris> avg, avast, mcaffe, or god forbid the bloatwear called norton
[19:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> It is pushy, Evie
[19:19] <The_Bee> If you're not free, don't call yourself "free".
[19:19] <KK> What about security for an iphone?
[19:19] <chris> i just use windows defender on my computer
[19:20] <KK> Mine periodically tells me I have viruses and other worying things.
[19:20] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Basic Avast was still free. But it just kept pushing you to sign up for the non-free features that were nice enough add-ons, but I didn't want to be nagged into signing up even though signing up was optional.
[19:20] <chris> the only thing i have on my iphone is an adblocker called adguard
[19:21] <KK> Is that free?
[19:22] <KK> Mine keeps wanting me to install various cleaners.
[19:22] <chris> i think it was free. if it wasn't it was a one time thing
[19:22] <chris> those could be ads from other apps that you have running
[19:23] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I have AVG on my phone. If I get a popup claiming that I have a virus but can scan for it (with something else besides the AVG I already have on my phone), I ignore the popup, exit out of that webpage (since those are usually scams trying to get you to download something you don't need, or worse, to download an actual virus you didn't already have), and then run the AVG app scan  <clipped messag
[19:23] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> to see if I actually do have anything bad on my phone. So far, it's always given me a clear scan and I was glad not to fall for the trick on the website.
[19:23] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Or from websites visited
[19:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Evie's advice is wise.
[19:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> The big flashing scary popups are designed to make you panic and run *their* scan which is usually  not a legit scan.
[19:25] <chris> good resources for iphone are the apple.com community pages or macrumors.com
[19:25] <KK> Sih. If scammers put as much effort into doing positive things as they do to try to bilk people, what a better world it would be.
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I like macrumors.com
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Right? This is why we can't have nice things!
[19:26] <chris> yes it would be KK but the scammers wouldn't be getting any cash flow
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I prefer for my cash to not flow to them. 😄
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I prefer to acquire my cash through legitimate sources. But that's just me, I'm not scum.
[19:26] <The_Bee>  any of you missing tiktok?
[19:27] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Never used it
[19:27] <chris> never used it
[19:27] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Tiktok is back.
[19:27] <chris> garbage on it anyway
[19:27] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If I wanted to hemorrhage money, I would send it to the nice Nigerian Prince who sends me love letters or to the guy on Instagram claiming he's Henry Cavill and needs me to wire him money to donate to his favorite charity.
[19:27] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Still won't use it
[19:28] <The_Bee> already< did Biden give it an extension?
[19:28] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I have no interest in Tiktok. I'm sadly neglectful of most of the social media platforms I do use. 😄
[19:28] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I heard there was an extension.
[19:28] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Apparently (from a couple of people I've seen) the custom on Toktok is to have frenetic shouty videos and/or the presenter's head popping up from random directions. I don't happen to like those customs.
[19:28] <The_Bee> I mostly use Facebook to play Words With Friends.
[19:29] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Wow, I haven't played Words with Friends in... geez, something like 15 years. It started getting buggy, and my friends gave up on it, so I gave up on it as well.
[19:29] <The_Bee> Is tiktok the one where people inslt each other?
[19:29] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I just downloaded the Words With Friends app on my phone. Don't need FB for that.
[19:29] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> A donation to the red cross would not  a amiss
[19:30] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> The Internet is the place where people insult each other. That's not just for Tiktok anymore. 😄
[19:30] <The_Bee> I have family on facebook.  I just got invited to friend several family members.
[19:30] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> tiktok is the one where kids give each other stupid challenges like the infamous Tide pod challenge and swallow-a-mouthful-of-cinnamon-without-water challenge
[19:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Stupid
[19:31] <The_Bee> I thought we were already friendly.
[19:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Bee, just checking, did you send me a friend request this week? If not, you've been hacked recently.
[19:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Bee, if any of your friends double-invite you to be Facebook friends, it's probably also bad guys trying to trick you into givin them information.
[19:31] <The_Bee> Yes.  I thought I already replied.
[19:32] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> You might have, but I've had a busy few days lately
[19:32] <chris> make sure it's not a clone rather than a hack
[19:32] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Then let your friends on Facebook know that you've been cloned and to not accept any Friend requests.
[19:32] <chris> most of the time it's a cloned account not a hacked one
[19:32] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Since I didn't see any picture, any other friends, or anything but your name on the account, it looked really suspicious, so that's why I didn't accept, especially since we are already FB friends on an account that does have all of that on it
[19:33] <The_Bee> I thought I was replying to your question about did I friend you.
[19:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Is your other account no longer in use?
[19:33] <The_Bee> I get too many friend requests from people I've never heard of.
[19:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Because I'm friend with that one already
[19:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Because I'm friends with that one already
[19:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Bee, I wouldn't talk (on Facebook) to any of the people you've accepted a double-FB-friendship with. Talk to these people in other ways and make sure the FB request is legitimate. Unfriend the duplicate accounts.
[19:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I get friend requests from people I don't know also (which I just ignore and remove) and the occasional scammer trying to pass themselves off as someone else on my friends list (which I report when that happens).
[19:35] <KK> I'm going to check out, folks. Dinner is calling; not sure which one, in the freezer. See you next week, if we don't freeze in the meantime. Be safe and warm!
[19:35] <The_Bee> I have two facebook accounts, I use whichever one lets me play words with friends.
[19:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Have a good week, KK
[19:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Goodnight and good week, KK!
[19:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Bye KK!
[19:35] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of purple sparkles.
[19:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Stay warm
[19:35] <chris> have a good week KK
[19:35] <The_Bee> Good night and good week, KK! hug Daphne for us.
[19:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I am going to check out, too.   Have a good week , everyone!
[19:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> night J-sha, stay comfy and warm, and happy hamsters!
[19:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> *KK steps into her Portal, but Microsoft is updating it and she's stuck there for the next 17 minutes*
[19:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I
[19:36] <KK> Good weeks to you.  Prayers appreciated for me on Thursday, when I get my ablation.
[19:36] <chris> guess i'll get the log tonight after the game
[19:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> That  must be a trapped Portal
[19:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Ooooh, evil Willimites!
[19:36] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> You betcha, KK
[19:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hope all goes well, KK
[19:37] <The_Bee> woodgies and prayer for KK
[19:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I'm now imagining running to escape enemies, but you have to click on the tile labelled "NEXT" 3 times, and accept the Terms and Conditions, and provide your email address and choose a password (and repeat it) and ...
[19:37] <The_Bee> Can you still see the chat, KK?
[19:38] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I'm now imagining running to escape enemies though a Portal, but you have to click on the tile labelled "NEXT" 3 times, and accept the Terms and Conditions, and provide your email address and choose a password (and repeat it) and ...
[19:38] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I think I smell dinner about to come out of the oven
[19:39] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Nite KK