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KK Chat -- 7 November 2021

Started by DesertRose, November 07, 2021, 07:06:58 PM

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[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:02 PM EST] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hello KK, hello Shiral
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:17 PM EST] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:18 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hello everyone
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:20 PM EST] <The_Bee> I forgot my password; I created a new password, and was told that my new password was invalid. then they cut me off.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:25 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi KK!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:36 PM EST] <The_Bee> shiralHi KK!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:06:50 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> How goes the continuing saga of the new home setup, KK?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:08:14 PM EST] <KK> It's coming along. Yesterday my lawn crew cleared out the garages at the old house and took a LOT of stuff to the landfill. And I found my long-lost dolly, which folds down skinnier than I remembers, so that's why I couldn't find it where it was lurking.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:08:41 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> lol
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:08:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hooray for discovered objects!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:09:22 PM EST] <The_Bee> What's you dolly's name?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:09:26 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I don't know how much of a packrat you are, but it's just so hard to toss stuff into the trash. Because you know you're going to need it again 3 months later.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:09:56 PM EST] <KK> So that was good. Sad news, though. Late Thursday night I had to let Gus go to the Rainbow Bridge. His kidney disease took a rapid downturn, and neither of us would have had a peaceful night if I'd tried to wait until the next morning to go to his reguar vet.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:10:07 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Oh no!!!!!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:10:09 PM EST] <The_Bee> :(
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:10:34 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Farewell, Gus. I'm so sorry, KK. I've lost two cats to kidney failure, now. When the time comes, it's very clear
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:10:53 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I've had to send two cats to the Bridge due to kidney issues. And I've got another that will likely go because of that.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:11:36 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> So sorry KK. I have also lost both cats and dogs to kidney issues.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:11:38 PM EST] <The_Bee> I'm told Melantha has a strong likelihood of kidney disease.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:12:10 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I'm sure Gus is so grateful to you for making the hard decision.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:12:12 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> You gave Gus a wonderful home and a long happy life as a beloved cat.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:12:17 PM EST] <KK> But the emergency vet was wonderful, kind and gentle, and he passed so very gently in my arms. But he will be much missed. Just on 20 years is a long time to live with any living thing, animal or human, and those years were full of love. I'm sure that Scott and his kitty friends will have been waiting for him at the Bridge.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:12:48 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I hope Gus is getting lots of ear scratches and love from Scott
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:12:57 PM EST] <KK> I knew the end was nearing, but it's still hard to say that last goodbye.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:13:02 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> I am sure they were there to meet him
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:13:29 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> It's always a hard day when we must say farewell to a beloved cat. 😢
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:13:51 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Or dog They make themselves so much a part of our lives and families
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:14:03 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> He sure was a handsome boy when he insisted on getting into the zoom meetings.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:14:26 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Yeshe was. We will all miss him
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:14:27 PM EST] <KK> Yep. So it's just me and Booker now, for a while. Not ready yet to go looking for a worthy successor to Gus.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:14:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Well, perhaps the radar is still working and some needy kitty will come and find YOU.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:15:19 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Has Booker indicated he's wondering where Gus went? Were the two of them friends, or did they politely ignore each other?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:15:31 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But Dmitri sends comforting purrs, Katherine
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:15:34 PM EST] <The_Bee> I'm feeling guilty about not making sure Melantha get her medicines.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:17:14 PM EST] <KK> Interestingly enough, there are at least two Gus clones in the neighborhood: one who lives at the end of the block and another who comes along my back fence line. (Or they could be the same cat, if the one down the block travels that far. But Friday morning, I saw the guy at the fence line, less than 24 hours after Gus's departure. I took it as a good omen.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:17:30 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> But giving cats medicine is an ongoing battle and often the cat wins no matter how many sneaky strategies you try
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:17:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Cats are notoriously unenthusiastic about medication
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:18:05 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> ...and getting taken to the vet for fluids
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:18:07 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> And so good at avoiding it
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:18:26 PM EST] <The_Bee> I should still try harder, especially about injecting fluids.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:18:33 PM EST] <KK> Yes. At least I didn't have to pill Gus in his final months. And he did well for a while on the canned kidney diet; really liked it.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:18:50 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> In the past, the right cats have found YOU, KK. perhaps it will happen again when the time is right.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:19:07 PM EST] <The_Bee> Melantha keeps chafging her mind about the kidney diat.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:19:11 PM EST] <KK> Booker doesn't really miss him, I don't think. They mostly tolerated one another.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:20:27 PM EST] <KK> I had 12 cans left of the kidney diet, and my vet was kind enough to take them back in credit for a couple of bags of the enzyme chews that Booker has one of after supper every night. They're sort of rawhidey things, and are supposed to help keep the tartar down.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:20:42 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Anyone who has to give sub Q fluids to a cat should give real effort to growing a third arm. One to hold the cat, one to hold the needle, and the third arm to release and shut off the fluids
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:21:21 PM EST] <KK> Probably true for most procedures that cats don't like, such as nail clipping.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:21:21 PM EST] <The_Bee> I've done it by kneeling on the floor and holding her with my knees.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:21:36 PM EST] <KK> Been there, done that, with previous cats.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:21:51 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I had to give Nina sub Q fluids. She hated it.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:21:55 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I'd be willing to try giving my kitty his fluids, but my husband likes the excuse to drag me out of the house and get my weekly dose of sunshine.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:22:18 PM EST] <KK> Thisis the first time in more than half a century that I've been catless. It's a strange feeling. But I know I made the right decision.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:22:44 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I can clip about one paws' worth of Dmitri's claws when he's very mellow and drowsy. But then he wakes up and thinks "hey, what's she doing?"
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:23:04 PM EST] <KK> And I also know that another cat , or two, will come along in due time.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:23:16 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Sometimes letting them go is the only possible humane choice
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:23:18 PM EST] <The_Bee> So faar I'velet the vet do the claw-clipping.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:23:50 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But that's another instance when I sometimes wish I had a third arm
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:24:07 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> I used to help my friend clip her cat's nails. i would hod the cat by the scruff of the neck like their mothers carried them and she clipped. It worked pretty well
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:24:20 PM EST] <The_Bee> Mom once told me that when her father was dying of cancer, he said that we were kinder to our sick pets
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:24:36 PM EST] <DesertRose> Hello, sorry, I was afk dealing with laundry and supper. KK, I'm so sorry to hear that Gus has crossed. *hugs* if welcome
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:24:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> They weigh about 8 to 12 pounds, but it can take two humans to do certain things for them
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:24:49 PM EST] <DesertRose> And Carys will gladly climb on and purr at anyone.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:24:52 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi DR
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:25:13 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi DR and Carys
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:25:16 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Potpie would probably purr on you as well. The other three... not so much
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:25:18 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Hi DR
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:25:18 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi DR
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:25:27 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> supplies chatroom table with mulled apple cider and cinnamon Babka
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:25:29 PM EST] <KK> Actually, clipping Gus's claws wasn't terribly difficult; I'd just nip the tips with regular nail clippers, though sometimes in two sittings. Booker's claws are so tough that I MUST take him to the vet to be trimmed.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:25:47 PM EST] <DesertRose> Dog nails are thicker than cat nails.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> It would be easier to clip Dmitri's claws if he were less bent on self-defense
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:19 PM EST] <DesertRose> Carys puts up with me trimming her nails, primarily because previous cats taught me the value of speaking softly during the trim and following a nail trim with high-value treats.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:21 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> And dogs are not as good at eliding us
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:30 PM EST] * The_Bee adds manchet bread with honey, butter and strawberry preserves.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:43 PM EST] <DesertRose> Merlin, on the other hand, is at minimum a two-person job, one to hold him down and one to trim.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:44 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> what's babka and manchet bread?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:47 PM EST] <KK> There's a reason that cats' paws are sometimes referred to as murder mittens. ;-)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:51 PM EST] <DesertRose> Yup
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:26:55 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> snork
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:03 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> jelly beans of doom
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:14 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Babka is like a cinnamon roll, but in loaf form
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:20 PM EST] <The_Bee> Manchet bread is very soft, I believe.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:26 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Murder mittens work
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:28 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Yours looked yummy
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:34 PM EST] <KK> Yes, soft and white.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:40 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Oooh, those both sound like carbs I really enjoy. 🙂
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:27:51 PM EST] <DesertRose> This is what it takes to medicate Merlin: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb-wC31Fqax/ (That's the Pod-Child holding him down.)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:28:35 PM EST] <DesertRose> Babka is delicious. I was introduced to it by my sister-in-law, who is Russian and has introduced the family to a great many yummy things (and made a devout tea drinker of my brother/her husband).
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:28:55 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> You roll out the babka dough, spread a cinnamon/brown sugar spread over it, add walnuts and raisins, then roll the whole thing up. THen you split the babka length-wise, and twist the two halves together. It's kind of tiger-stripey inside when it's baked.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:29:13 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> DR, my cats heard Merlin cussing and had to go cover their ears.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:29:44 PM EST] <KK> Gus was chatty to the end. The vet even remarked on it.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:29:55 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> You go through all that to get the med in then when you let them go, the cat spits it out from where ever they hid it
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:29:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> He probably wasn't cussing, tho...
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:30:19 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Dmitri and I talk a lot. Tati and I less so. But she can be very affectionate when she's in the mood
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:30:25 PM EST] <DesertRose> I'm sorry, I didn't mean to annoy anyone else's kitties! :)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:30:31 PM EST] <The_Bee> Melantha used to be very quiet, but know she's turned talkative.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:30:40 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> adds her magical pot of tea that pours whatever kind of tea you want.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:30:50 PM EST] <DesertRose> Carys is chatty, and I swear she understands every word I say or very near.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:30:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> It's ok, they've settled back down again. they were jut shocked to her those words come over the computer.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:25 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi everyone!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:30 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hullo Jerusha
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:31 PM EST] <DesertRose> (The narrating human was me.)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:36 PM EST] <KK> Hi, Jerusha.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:37 PM EST] <DesertRose> Hi Jerusha!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:42 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> If I watch any video clips online that has kittens mewing, Tati will often show up, thinking I've gott kittens in the office
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:47 PM EST] * The_Bee smiles at shiral as she adds milk and sugar to her darjeeling.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:31:53 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:32:38 PM EST] <The_Bee> There are quite a few videos of cats, including some adoption promos.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:32:40 PM EST] <DesertRose> Carys flips her lid completely if she hears kitten noises. I can't listen to kitten videos without headphones, because she apparently either missed the memo that she's spayed and no longer needs to take care of kittens or the maternal instinct is just that strong. She gets distressed.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:32:47 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:33:18 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> At least there was some good news from Revanne. Has anyone heard from HoundMistress about LOU?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:33:28 PM EST] <The_Bee> No
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:33:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> Revanne's DH is doing better?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:11 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> He is, it seems
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:12 PM EST] <KK> Has Lou had a crisis? I knew about Revanne's Richard. Apparently he's doing a bit better, though still not strong enough for surgery on the elbow.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:13 PM EST] <DesertRose> She PM'd me, but since it was a private message, I dont' feel like I ought to repeat it. She has been in touch though.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:21 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I didn't hear Revanne's good news, unless it was about her children being there for her
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> He is improving, I believe
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:33 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> He is able to sit up and eat and drink a little
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:33 PM EST] <DesertRose> Lou spent some time in hospital for cardiac problems a few weeks ago.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:43 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I only know what I know through reading Revanne's posts on FB
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:45 PM EST] <DesertRose> And I believe they found something malignant on imaging.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:55 PM EST] <DesertRose> (on Lou, not Richard)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:34:56 PM EST] <The_Bee> Bummer!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:35:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Oh no! 😦
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:35:16 PM EST] <KK> Oh, dear. We must keep the prayer wheels turning for him as well.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:35:20 PM EST] <DesertRose> But I'm just trusting my memory of what HM said here.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:35:27 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Lou was getting radiation therapy
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:35:41 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Never a good sign. Poor Lou, and poor Hound Mistress
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:35:49 PM EST] <KK> Sigh. Ain't none of us getting any younger.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:36:05 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> So true
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:36:08 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> That's a big problem with life
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:36:42 PM EST] <Laurna> KK I am just reading the earlier Chat. My condolences and big vertical hugs.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:36:43 PM EST] * The_Bee sends out better-health woodgies to all Deryni Directions members and spouses.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:36:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Oh?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:37:04 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> t'anks
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:37:05 PM EST] <DesertRose> Okay, so probably I did remember correctly about the malignancy, unfortunately, if he was getting radiation.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:37:13 PM EST] <KK> Thanks, Laurna.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:37:43 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Laurna
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:37:58 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi Laurna
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:38:04 PM EST] <Laurna> Hello Everyone. We will all miss Gus and his talkies on zoom
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:38:05 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Hi Laurna
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:38:53 PM EST] <KK> On another note entirely, I watched the funeral service for Gen. Colin Powell on Friday. Beautiful service, and impressive eulogies. I'm reading his autobiography right now. (Well, after I go to bed.) I always liked him. A true soldier-statesman.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:39:00 PM EST] <Laurna> This time change has me thinking it is really late in the day
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:39:30 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Mom and I met for some retail therapy and lunch earlier today
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:39:35 PM EST] <Laurna> I always liked Colin Powell as well, KK
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:39:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But my internal clock is all confused
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:00 PM EST] <Laurna> mine too
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:04 PM EST] <KK> He really is an American success sttory.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:16 PM EST] <KK> Good retailing, Shiral?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:21 PM EST] <The_Bee> i don't like early sunsets. Some people would like to keep daylight time all year.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:37 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> He was very impressive. if he had run for president I would have voted for him
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:46 PM EST] <KK> So would I.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:50 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I prefer standard time. I like it when it is light early
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> He was a good man.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:40:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Pretty good. We bought some candles for the Thanksgiving table (which will be my table.) and then went and hand some sandwiches
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:41:20 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I love long summer evenings, myself
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:41:26 PM EST] <The_Bee> very handsome sandwiches?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:41:34 PM EST] <Laurna> Working the afternoon shift inside a building all my life I never saw when the seen set. so it is different now that I am retired.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:41:36 PM EST] <KK> Yes, but summer is now well gone.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:41:49 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Tasty sandwiches. Mom said it was one of the best BLT's she's ever had
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:42:29 PM EST] <Laurna> Yumm BLTs
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:42:37 PM EST] <KK> I had spaghetti tonight, from a fund-raiser for Meals on Wheels. A good cause, and something a little different.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:42:39 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> At least we're getting a bit of rain, here in the West that is sorely needed. And which will hopefully end Fire Season for a time
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:42:45 PM EST] <The_Bee> with extra bacon
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:42:52 PM EST] <DesertRose> I care not in the least whether we're on DST or standard time, but I devoutly wish we could pick one and stay there.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:42:54 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> I just wish they would stop changing the time. They have studies that show that when it changes, the number of heart attacks increases9 disturbed sleep. auto accidents increase, and it doesn't save energy which is why they do it
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:21 PM EST] <KK> Yep, let's hear it for heavy rain drowning out all the fires.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:33 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Agreed
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:34 PM EST] <DesertRose> Just, not such heavy rain that it causes flooding.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:40 PM EST] <Laurna> I am all for a nice rain
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:41 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> And making everything less parched and flammable
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:43 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> That tooi
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:47 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> too
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:43:49 PM EST] <The_Bee> It began so farmerrs would have more time to tend crops in the evening.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:44:14 PM EST] <The_Bee> DST, not fires or floods
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:44:19 PM EST] <Laurna> I love the summer nights light until 8
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:44:47 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> or mud slides
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:44:48 PM EST] <Laurna> but the winter nights starting at 4:30 is too much darkness
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:44:54 PM EST] <The_Bee> I miss too many beautiful sunsets because ai'm at my computer.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:44:59 PM EST] <DesertRose> I mean, the number of daylight hours is going to be the same regardless of what time we've all decided it is.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:45:00 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Here it's light until 9:30; makes for a late campfire
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:45:10 PM EST] <DesertRose> So enough of the changing, please.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:45:16 PM EST] <DesertRose> (sorry, favorite rant of mine)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:45:54 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> I'm with you
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:45:58 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hard to enjoy with young grandchildren
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:45:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Dmitri and Tati let me know breakfast was disgracefully late, this morning
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:46:00 PM EST] <The_Bee> There was a rumor of Mass changing to the Atlantic time zone.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:46:08 PM EST] <Laurna> The time I was in England at it was light until 11pm, but I don't think I would like those long winter nights
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:46:23 PM EST] <KK> I got up early this morning, though, about 0730, and the day seemed to crawl.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:46:32 PM EST] <DesertRose> Eh, plenty of time to curl up by the fire with a Deryni book on those long winter nights. ;)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:46:35 PM EST] <Laurna> Agreed KK
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:46:50 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Ah yes. All we need is the book....
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:47:05 PM EST] <DesertRose> (Says the devout hater of snow and cold weather--but I could cope with the right wardrobe, I suppose)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:47:10 PM EST] <Laurna> Maybe we should have book readings on Zoom
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:47:18 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> ooOOOOoooooooh
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:47:39 PM EST] <The_Bee> That might get people to listen.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:47:42 PM EST] <KK> When Scott and I took our QE II lecture cruise, that that went all the way to Nordcap, the sun never did really set. It would come down to about a thumb's width of the horizon,then start back up. Very strange.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:47:46 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I do have a fireplace at my house, which I haven't ever used
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:48:10 PM EST] <The_Bee> Are you sure it works?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:48:19 PM EST] <KK> Not even for Christmas stockings, Shiral?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:48:36 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I have no idea how to even check if the flue is open, Bee
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:48:39 PM EST] <Laurna> My fireplace was last used about 20 years ago
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:48:41 PM EST] <DesertRose> My parents' house has one, with a gas log; my stepdad used it the first winter they owned the house and never actually turned on the central heating. It hasn't been used since and probably isn't safe to use.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:49:13 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> It represents no threat at the moment, since I've never actually lit a fire in it
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:49:21 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We heat the cottage with a propane fireplace, though we have in-floor heating in the bathroom and sunroom
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:49:23 PM EST] <The_Bee> If you're thinking about using it, get a prefessional to check the flue and everything else.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:49:28 PM EST] <DesertRose> That's basically what my parents' fireplace is for, Christmas stocking in season and holding the mantle clock and a few curio pieces (including one that belonged to my mother's grandmother).
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:49:49 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I don't want to give some poor asthmatic person an attack by building a fire on a winter Spare the Air Day
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:49:53 PM EST] <DesertRose> *stockingS plural.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:50:13 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Yup. My mantelpiece is my Christmas Decoration hub in the living room
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:50:23 PM EST] <KK> We had a working gas fireplace in the library at Edge Hill, but none of the other 5 fireplaces in the house were set up as functional. And there was a pot-bellied stove in the TV room that we never used.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:51:08 PM EST] <The_Bee> I just have lights on my riling and window, and a santa outside my door year round.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:51:27 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> But I told Santa to keep busy filling stockings for children-- he has enough to do on Christmas Eve. =o)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:51:46 PM EST] <Laurna> I was thinking of getting one of those electric fake fireplaces for mine
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:51:52 PM EST] <DesertRose> I have a wreath for my door, but it doesn't go up until the day after Thanksgiving at the earliest.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:02 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I considered it, too. But then the mood would pass
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:09 PM EST] <Laurna> hehe
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:10 PM EST] <The_Bee> I don't like to do christmas lights before Thanksgiving.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:31 PM EST] <DesertRose> And I have lights on my railing, but they're year round because I like having a railing and I like having lights on it.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:36 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> I won't let my husband play Christmas music until the day after Thanksgiving. : )
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:40 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Nothing Christmasy happens at my place until after Thanksgiving dinner is eaten and the dishes are washed
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:46 PM EST] <Laurna> around here the outdoor lights are turned on Thanksgivving night. so they have to go up the week before
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:50 PM EST] <KK> I have an electric fake fireplace in my new living room, with TV on it. Haven't used it yet, but it looks nice. And you can run the "flames" without running the heat.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:58 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I love Thanksgiving and I want it to have it's full moment of glory
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:52:59 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Thanksgiving these days seems to get lost between Halloween and Christmas
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:53:05 PM EST] <DarkMist> I am only ever "sorta" here
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:53:21 PM EST] <DesertRose> Same here, Nezz, except no husband; I just refuse to listen to Christmas music until the day after Thanksgiving unless I'm in a choral Christmas do.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:53:45 PM EST] <KK> No decorations up here until after Thanksgiving. And they come down by Epiphany.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:53:59 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Really looking forward to having my family over for Thanksgiving this year. Spending it alone last year really sucked
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:54:00 PM EST] <DesertRose> In which case (choral Christmas concert/church service), one needs to start practicing no later than Labor Day if one hopes for a decent show.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:54:16 PM EST] <The_Bee> I leave my lights up; I just don't turn them on.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:54:22 PM EST] <Laurna> I resicrinized my Ipad and forgot the seperate out all the christmas music. So as of this week. it is all playing throughout all my music
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:54:26 PM EST] <DesertRose> Yup. The wreath gets replaced with a winter-but-not-Christmas decoration on Epiphany.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:54:38 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Mine come down around Epiphany, too. Not only because of tradition but because of my HOA. =o)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:55:08 PM EST] <DesertRose> Right now there's an autumn decoration on my front door.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:55:08 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Mine come down on New Year's Day
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:55:10 PM EST] <The_Bee> HOA?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:55:12 PM EST] <KK> If I can't find the tiny, pre-lit tree I used to have, I'm going to buy about a 3 ft. one.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:55:14 PM EST] <Laurna> I am lucking to get it down by Valintines day
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:55:21 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Home Owner's Association, Bee
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:55:29 PM EST] <The_Bee> ah, ok
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:56:21 PM EST] <Laurna> At least Halloween is all put away nice and packed. Skelitons, pirates and ships all in the shed
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:56:51 PM EST] <The_Bee> I ate all my Halloween candy.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> "Dang," the pirate captain said. "Locked up for another year!"
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I got one lonely Trick or Treater.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:08 PM EST] <Laurna> Good for you bee
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:13 PM EST] <KK> I ran out of Halloween candy and had to turn off the purch light.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:24 PM EST] <KK> porch
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:32 PM EST] <DesertRose> Autumn decor: https://imgur.com/a/9TTzHde
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:33 PM EST] <Laurna> Love to hear that many kids out KK
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:36 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Dang, I wish I'd had that many trick-or treaters
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:40 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Somehow, I managed to spread the candy consumption through the week rather than eating it all on November 1
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:53 PM EST] <The_Bee> II skipped church last Sunday; I'd forgotten about Halloween celebration.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:57:56 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Nice, DR
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:58:01 PM EST] <DesertRose> Thank you!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:58:30 PM EST] <KK> I had no idea how many to expect. Should have gotten two big bags instead of one. Kids were sweet, though.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:58:31 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> very pretty, did you make it or buy it, DR?
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:59:06 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> I know, KK. In 2019, I bought two bags which had been plenty the year before, and the kids cleaned me right out.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [7:59:30 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Then this year, I just got the one kid
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:00:04 PM EST] <Laurna> I had guests over for tea party but no trick or treaters
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:00:12 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Where we used to live in town, we got 150 trick or treaters
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:00:21 PM EST] <Laurna> Nice
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:00:39 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Tea parties are nice. When I take over the world, Tea Parties will be required at 4:00 pm local time
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:00:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> I've had no trick or treaters since moving to Boston.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:00:59 PM EST] <Laurna> I shall be there
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:01:29 PM EST] <DesertRose> I bought it on clearance at Joann, Nezz.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:01:44 PM EST] <KK> Long ago, there used to be a proper English tearoom in Santa Monica. Pricey, but very elegant. Sadly, it only lasted a couple of years.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:02:13 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> The high tea at the Empress Hotel in Victoria, BC is awesome
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:02:42 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> In Palo Alto we used to have the London Tea House. It was a perfect place for lunch or tea, and upstairs they had a shop with all sorts of products from the British Isles
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:02:44 PM EST] <Laurna> Oh Jerusha we did that once. at the Empress Hotel. Outstanding building.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:02:47 PM EST] <KK> Guys, I'm going to have to check out. It's been a beastly long week, and my bed is calling me. (Also, General Powell.)
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:02:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> It't's been gone for years, but we still remember it fondly
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:02:58 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> KK, you have a great night!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:04 PM EST] <The_Bee> Wrengs wanted to do the hotel's high tea when she was in boston. She was p.o'd becauseno one told her she had to make reservations in advance.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:08 PM EST] <KK> I'll do my best.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:09 PM EST] <Eris> <Nezz> Say hello to the general for us... 😉
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:13 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Night, KK. Hope the week ahead goes better
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:17 PM EST] <Laurna> Hugs for Booker and you
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:21 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Nite KK.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:22 PM EST] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nighters, KK. Read/sleep well
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:23 PM EST] <Laurna> Good nIght KK
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:29 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Have a good sleep!
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:38 PM EST] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green green sparkles.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:39 PM EST] <The_Bee> Good night and good week, KK. Pet Booker for us.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:40 PM EST] <Eris> <DFK> Hugs for you and Booker
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:57 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> A nap actually sounds really good...
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:03:58 PM EST] <KK> Thank you, all of you. See you next week.
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:04:04 PM EST] <Eris> <Shiral> Night, KK
[Sunday, November 7, 2021] [8:04:13 PM EST] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)