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KK Chat -- 19 September 2021

Started by DesertRose, September 19, 2021, 07:38:38 PM

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[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [6:59:40 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [6:59:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Hello KK
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:00:03 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, all. Wakey wakey!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:00:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Do you follow football?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:00:18 PM EDT] <bynw> hi KK
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:00:32 PM EDT] <KK> Nope, though I know there were a bunch of games today.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:01:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> How is everything going for you?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:01:31 PM EDT] <KK> Okay. had a favorite house guest for 4 days this past week, and it was great.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:01:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Yay!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:02:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:02:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Just long enough to get some good visiting in, not long enough to get tired of 'em.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:03:03 PM EDT] <KK> We took care of a bunch of piddly little errands that I'd been putting off for weeks.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:03:09 PM EDT] <bynw> house guests are nice
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:03:14 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, DR.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:03:27 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I had Sarah as a house guest over Labor Day weekend.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:03:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Oh my gosh, it feels so good to get those little errands taken care of. Feels like a load off the shoulders
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:03:46 PM EDT] <KK> I also managed to lock myself out of my car not once but twice in 10 days. Do not like the electronic fobs!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It was sort of a working trip for her because she was working a craft show, but we also got in some good visiting and shopping and a short beach excursion.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> 😮
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:04 PM EDT] Join The_Bee (The_Bee@owirc-k7u.tb3.61.73.IP) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:11 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Bee.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:30 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi DR and all!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> little bit jealous of the short beach excursion
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:41 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi KK!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:45 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Bee
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:53 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Come visit me. ;)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:04:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> hi Bee
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:05:13 PM EDT] <KK> Fortunately, a friend with a key to my house was able to go and get the fob and bring it to me. I don't intend to let that happen again. Locking away the fob, not throwing myself on my friend's mercy.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:05:20 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I know, it's a long way for a beach trip.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:05:30 PM EDT] <The_Bee> HI Bethane
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:05:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Long way, but I'd go further
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:05:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi everyone. Hope you have had a good week
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:02 PM EDT] <bynw> hi DFK
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:03 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I've gotten a lot of guff for it, but I carry my keys on a carabiner that I hook either to a loop on my purse or on my belt loop if I'm wearing something with belt loops.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Last time I locked myself out of my car, it was running and I had to get my brother to come down from Salt Lake to unlock its for me.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It looks dorky but I don't lose my keys.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:34 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Hi DFK
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:41 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I've lost keys, It's a scary experience.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:41 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi DFK.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:50 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi DFK
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> DR, it sounds practical
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:06:58 PM EDT] <KK> It was an excellent week, other than locking myself out of my car. Stupid electronic fobs!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:07:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I locked my keys in my car with the engine running in the rain once, about twenty years ago.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:07:29 PM EDT] <DesertRose> To put an approximate date on it, I was looking for a house share and got a beep on my pager, so I stepped out to a pay phone to return the call and locked the car behind me.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:07:51 PM EDT] <DesertRose> So you almost can't have acted any stupider than that. ;)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:07:55 PM EDT] <The_Bee> and no umbrella?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:04 PM EDT] <KK> I may have to resort to something like that, DR. Either that or start putting it in my purse, since I don't go anywhere in the car without the purse.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I don't recall whether I had an umbrella, but I sure stayed in the phone booth until my mom came with my spare key.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> No less stupid when I did it. I was at my house, at least, but it was about 20 degrees and I needed to go to school.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:39 PM EDT] Join Imladris (Imladris@owirc-uhn.h5p.71.216.IP) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Hello Imladris
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:47 PM EDT] <The_Bee> HI imladris
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, you win. I was at least in South Carolina in the summer, so it was warm rain.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:51 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Imladris
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:08:57 PM EDT] <Imladris> Greetings all
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:09:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> DR, at least we were both around phones and could seek help
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:09:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Imladris
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:10:12 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Imladris
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:10:20 PM EDT] <KK> Fortunately, I do have a friend who's a locksmith, but i'm not sure how they handle electronic fobs. The second time, the key was on the driver's seat, had fallen out of my pocket. Maybe he could have snaked a coathanger in and snagged it, though I'm not sure how he'd have gotten it out of the car.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:10:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Key fobs are not my favoite. At least you didn't have to change the battteries in the key
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:11:03 PM EDT] <Imladris> Ricky, my car, won't let me lock his keys in...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:11:19 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Smart car.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:11:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> My car alarms if you try to get out with the negine running
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:11:40 PM EDT] <KK> Only changed the battery once in 13 years for the old Subaru key--and the battery wasn't actually dead; I just did it on general principles, and since I was at the dealer.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:11:53 PM EDT] <Imladris> [car got a license tag with RKY and 3 numbers... thus named Ricky]
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:12:09 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I don't own a car, but I once locked my bike and lost the key to the padlock.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:12:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> That's almost as bad!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:12:48 PM EDT] <KK> Unfortunately, I can lock my car by pressing a little nubbin on the outside door handle. Probably not the best idea. I may start using the fob to lock.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:13:05 PM EDT] <Imladris> Ricky also dims the bright headlights when coming upon another car.... and then brings back up when passes.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:13:05 PM EDT] <The_Bee> One of my landlord's maintenance guys had a bolt cutter.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:13:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Since I don't use a key to start my car, I just stick the little fob deep in a tiny pocket in my wallet where it's not going to fall out.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:13:29 PM EDT] <KK> That's what you needed, Bee. And then a new padlock.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:13:35 PM EDT] <Imladris> my spot on the handle beeps if the keys are inside
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:13:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> That's good Bee
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:13:51 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Now I HAVE A COMBINATION LOCK, BUT I'M AFRAID TO USE IT BECAUSE i'M NOT SURE AI'VE SET THE COMBINATION CORRECTLY.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:14:03 PM EDT] <The_Bee> ooops DIDN'T MEAN TO SHOUT
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:14:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Mine won't lock if the key is inside
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:15:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Nowadays our vehicles seem smarter than we are.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:15:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The car I locked the keys inside with the engine running was a 1983 Nissan Sentra.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:15:19 PM EDT] <KK> Sometimes I think they're too smart.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:15:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm not sure my current car would let me lock her keys inside, but I'm not going to tempt fate by checking. At least not unless I'm at my parents' house where the other key and fob are.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I spent a lot of time searching for keys, especially on the way too work. Finally solved that by putting a key holder with hooks right inside the front door. As long as I remember to hang the keys there all is goof
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> arrives in chat with a pop like a champagne cork
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Hello Shiral
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi all
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:43 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Who said that anyone who tries to make something totally idiot-proof underestimates the capacity of total idiots?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:52 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:16:57 PM EDT] <KK> That assumes that you've carried the keys inside. If you've already locked them in the car, you're toast.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Nothing is fool proof to a really determined fool
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:22 PM EDT] <KK> This is true.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hello all
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> So true
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:25 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Right tou are!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:32 PM EDT] <bynw> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Shiral.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:55 PM EDT] <Imladris> Bee the version I have is "Nothing can be made truly fool proof, because fools are so ingenious."
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:17:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Got to go deal with laundry, BRB.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:18:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Einstein himself said the difference between genius and stupidity was that genius had its limits.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:18:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Love that one
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:18:24 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I like that!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:19:15 PM EDT] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:19:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I DO always try to keep my car keys in my pocket or purse, and make a point of only unlocking the driver's side door with my key
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:19:32 PM EDT] <Imladris> Along the same lines, my murphy's law book included: "If it jams force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway."
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:19:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Shiral, I just reread Dhugal at Court. You write the youngsters so well.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:20:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> There is a phase in packing up to move when you start breaking things so you don't have to pack them
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:20:15 PM EDT] <KK> Yes, she does!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:20:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Thank you, DFK
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:21:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I always enjoy the moment when Kelson threatens to have Morgan turn Nicholas into a toad
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:21:16 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Speaking of Dhugal, does anyone have a good idea of what his face looks like? Any pictures you've seen that make you say "Yeah, that's him!" Even if the picture doesn't have the right hair.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:21:20 PM EDT] <KK> Yes!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:21:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> That was a favorite
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:21:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Morgan himself would be rather surprised by that request.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:21:50 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> snork
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:22:03 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I picture Dhugal with freckles.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:22:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> "My Prince, you know very well I can't do any such thing!'
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:22:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I was thinking freckles...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:22:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> He's always described as having freckles and he certainly is a redhead
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:23:01 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, freckles with the red hair.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:23:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Although I really loved when Dhugal switched the hose. Sorry he didn't get to see the "big Split". I laughed so hard I almost split something
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:23:16 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I'm looking for a picture reference for his face.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:23:29 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Did Rhys Thuryn have freckles?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:23:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> WHen you can't beat 'em split their hose up the backside. But you know how uncomfortable it is to be stuck wearing something that's too small all day?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:23:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> His hair is always descibed as copper colored rather than carroty
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:24:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Something like "I picture him looking like Heath Ledger but with red hair"
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:24:20 PM EDT] <KK> Copper is still ginger.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:24:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Oooh, Heath Ledger... I can see that
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:24:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Rhys or Dhugal as Heath Ledger?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:25:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Dhugal
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:25:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I haven't thought about the Camber crowd too much yet
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:25:52 PM EDT] <Imladris> doesn't know what heath ledger looks like.. but does 'know' what Rhys and Dhugal look like.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:25:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Remember the days of panty hose that were just a little to small and kept working their way down. I know just how he felt
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:26:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I kinda wonder if Dhugal would have a certain resemblance to Rhys. After all it sounds like they have pretty similar coloring, even the golden eyes
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:26:35 PM EDT] <Imladris> << has medium amber eyes...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:26:39 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> If it were possible to have them ever meet, they might think, "hey, he looks kind of like me."
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:26:44 PM EDT] <Imladris> based on maple syrup grading
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:26:44 PM EDT] <KK> They wouldn't have had conjoined hose, historically, but this is Gwynedd, so who's to say they hadn't figured out how to do that.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:26:53 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Isn't Dhugal descened from rhy via Duncan?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:27:18 PM EDT] <The_Bee> rhys
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:27:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> For the purposes of Dhugal's revenge, I pictured them rather like modern tights
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:27:38 PM EDT] <KK> Absolutely!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:27:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> He and Alaric both are, I think. That is where the healing talent comes from
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:28:07 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Through Rhys' daughter?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:28:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Of course, they also didn't have clothing with pockets, so that's another anachronism to the story. But it's a finished work, so I just roll with it.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:28:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I thought it was through Teig but not sure
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:28:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:01 PM EDT] <Imladris> KK, understand how healing was lost in Gwynedd... how did it get lost in Torenth?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:01 PM EDT] <KK> Pocketses are such a logical invention, I'm sure they would have had them in Gwynedd.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:09 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:13 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I imagine Alaric and Duncan could be descended from Jerusha; I imagine all her sons wouldbe healers.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Well, if it were Tieg or Jerusha, the healing talent could have passed through either of them.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Remember literary license. I don't think absolute accuracy is required
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> If they had 'em in Middle earthy, why not in Gwynedd?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Well, Dhugal had to have an apple handy so he could catch Moonshadow
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:29:50 PM EDT] <Imladris> Hi jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:30:00 PM EDT] <The_Bee> HI Jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:30:14 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:30:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hi Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:31:04 PM EDT] <KK> The Torenthi Deryni were kind of snobs, so I expect they just went mostly underground when things began to get hot in Gwynedd.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:31:22 PM EDT] <KK> And Healing was always a pretty rare talent.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:31:41 PM EDT] <Imladris> Ty
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:32:13 PM EDT] <The_Bee> KK, did you ever decide if the healing gene was on the x chrosome?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:32:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Back for a bit. Laundry is the Never-Ending Story for Adults. Laundry and dishes.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:32:22 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I know that they had something called a scrip, a sort of pouch that they wore around the waist and put things in. Sort of like an exiernal pocket
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:32:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Kelson is very fortunate that his three closest friends are all Healers. What are the odds?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:32:43 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Yup. Today was Wash the Sheets day at my place
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:32:53 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Think of a sort of cross-body messenger bag, and you've got the idea of a scrip.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:33:24 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Senior Services includes laundry service for me.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:33:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The bag part would generally be at the waist, but the strap went over either a shoulder or across the body like a baldric.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:33:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> In the middle ages. That is what Cadfael had.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:33:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Today was yell at the washing machine day
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:33:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And I'm fairly sure belt pouches are historical, not just an SCA convenience.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:34:25 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> don't you make your own?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:34:30 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (Basically an external pocket hung from your belt; a lot of SCAdians use leather pouches for durability. I'm not sure about historical pouches.)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:34:39 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Very likely people would have made their own
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:34:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Me? No, I'm not a leatherworker and I Do Not Need Another Hobby (capitalized because it's my mantra lately ;) ).
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:34:55 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Didn't cut-purses literally cut the string that held a purse to a belt?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:35:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yep
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:35:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> But historically, yes, probably, people would have made the pouch themselves or bartered for it.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:35:25 PM EDT] <KK> Cloth pockets were often worn inside ladies' skirts, accessible via a slit in the side seam.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:35:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> So a Chatelaine was pretty much the mistress of a great household. But there's also mention of a chatelaine which I think of as a kind of key ring.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:35:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I have a pattern for a scrip-type bag that I cut for a class I wound up being unable to attend, but I believe I have the handout so I could probably finish it.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:36:27 PM EDT] <DesertRose> A "chatelaine" the person, yes, she was the mistress of the household. But she would generally carry a chatelaine, which was a chain or belt with keys and various other necessities on it.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:36:41 PM EDT] <KK> You're a slever enough seamstress that I'm sure you could finish it, DR.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:37:03 PM EDT] <KK> clever enough
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:37:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm sure. It's not rocket-science level sewing. I'm just mad at myself for missing the class because I like the teacher.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:37:50 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I just haven't gotten around to it because every time I finish one thing in my project bin, three other things pop up to take up the space. XD
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:37:57 PM EDT] <DesertRose> BRB, more laundry.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:38:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Nobody NEEDS another hobby DR, but they have a way of insinuating themselves into your life. 😏
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:38:03 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I can mend small tears or sew on buttons; not much else.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:38:28 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Last weekend I made two new masks to augment my collection
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:38:38 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Ooooh, masks!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:39:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Well, they're rather utilitarian, Bethane. But I do have to wear them while at work.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:39:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I loved Jerusha's story of Jana learning to be a chatelaine
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:39:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Oh, those kinds of masks. I was thinking of the cool masks that cover the upper half of your face.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:39:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I wasn't mocking you at all
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:39:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Nope, nothing that entertaining. Just the ubiquitous 2021 necessity
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:40:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Jana had a lot to learn
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:40:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> But I am sure she mastered it all.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:40:35 PM EDT] <The_Bee> domino masks? not much of a disguise, IMHO. How did the Lone Ranger get away with it?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:40:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Got it. And it's more than I can do with a sewing machine (or sewing needle)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:40:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I'm sure that's something a LOT of girls and women had to learn!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:41:12 PM EDT] <KK> Or Zorro.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:41:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Because people weren't very observant, I guess! Or everyone had to maintain the illusion.=o)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:41:28 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> They had more responsibilities in their lord's absence than many would realise
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:41:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> puts out fresh apple crisp and clotted cream on the chatroom table
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:01 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Oh yumm!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:03 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> adds toll house cookies
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:03 PM EDT] <KK> Shiral, you are evil!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:11 PM EDT] <bynw> yum
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I know. It's an art =o)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:18 PM EDT] <bynw> apple crisp my fav
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Or a life style
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> And we love you for it
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:30 PM EDT] * The_Bee adds cider.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:37 PM EDT] <KK> Absolutely!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I do have an actual crisp baking in my oven right now. I discovered some apples that needed to either be retired or cooked
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:42:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Ooooh! Fall baking! I love you guys!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:06 PM EDT] <KK> Ooooh, the aroma!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> @bynw, who won?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:16 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Nothing smells better than cooking appless
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:18 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Yeah, it smells pretty good!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:22 PM EDT] <bynw> damn it. now i need a transfer portal to California
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:23 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Apples are sweeter when they've just begun to wrinkle.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Bee, is that when you want to bake with them?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:49 PM EDT] <bynw> Nezz, the Cardinals won. the Vikings attempted a field goal and missed it. :(
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:43:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Shiral, your portal could become somewhat crowded
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:44:13 PM EDT] <The_Bee> That's when I like to eat them.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:44:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> That's why I'm so careful with the coordinates, DFK
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:44:17 PM EDT] <Imladris> Trivia: who was the Lone Ranger's grand-nephew?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:44:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I have to admit I didn't know he had one and I was a rabid LR fan
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:45:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I don't even know who the Lone Ranger's nephew is...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:45:11 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Dan Reid was is nephew; BritT REid (the Green Hornet) may have been hisgrand-nephew.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:45:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I didn't know he had one. MIght it have been the Lawn Ranger?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:45:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Ouch on that one
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:45:43 PM EDT] <Imladris> yep....the green hornet
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:45:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> He had a really great looking lawn
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:46:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> throws grass onto the trebouche
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:46:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Did Tonto help him cut the grass
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:46:24 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I was a fanatic devotee of the Lone Ranger radio program.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:46:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Me too
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:47:12 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I think there was a landscaping group called the Lawn Rangers.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:48:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Hah. Did they wear masks and use a silver lawnmower?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:48:23 PM EDT] <The_Bee> My little sister once mortified me by asking, "does the Lone Ranger ever go to the bathroom?"
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:48:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> A reasonable question
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:49:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Yes, but why would he not?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:49:40 PM EDT] <The_Bee> not to 7 or 8 year old me
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:50:33 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> BRB, oven timer just went off
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:51:07 PM EDT] <KK> Even superheroes have to go. That's one reason I alluded to it in several scenes with the Deryni.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:51:48 PM EDT] <The_Bee> 1950s shows didn't mention it.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:51:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Rhys Michael sneaking off to sign the codicil. ;)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:51:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> That's what those garderobes were for
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:52:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> You have to wonder what they did on the battlefield. "Excuse me! Time out!"
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:52:34 PM EDT] <KK> Nope. But I've been taken aback of late by a commercial for stool softeners, and telling us that "Number 2 should be easy to do."
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:52:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Either that or sheer terror took care of that at the very beginning of the battle
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:52:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Maybe slipped from the line and rejoined it after they'd answered the call of nature?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:52:45 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Grab the opportunity when you could
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:53:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Don't want to be caught by the enemy wwith your pants down
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:53:34 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Literally.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:53:37 PM EDT] <KK> Imagine having to deal with the runs on the battlefield. And they did.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:53:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yep
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:53:59 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Not just "ugh!" but "UUUGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!"
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:54:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I don't envy whoever had to deal with the laundry.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:54:23 PM EDT] <DesertRose> At least my laundry is just the ordinary-use variety of dirty.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:55:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I suspect if you lived to the end of the battle, you worried about it later
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:55:29 PM EDT] <DesertRose> True, but when later arrived, not much fun.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:55:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Also, whoever went around burying the dead after the battle. (I'm assuming nobles were generally taken home for burial, but the ordinary soldiers, probably not.)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:56:53 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Were they strpiped and or buried in their armor?shrouded
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:57:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Mostly stripped of anything valuable
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:57:48 PM EDT] <The_Bee> often by the victors
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:58:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> And I'm back
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:58:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> She's back! With apple crisp?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:58:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> It
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:58:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> is cooling on the counter. Smells delicious
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:59:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Kinda wish I hadn't read the bits about the runs.....
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [7:59:30 PM EDT] <KK> Bodies definitely would have been stripped of weapons and armor and anything else of value. If you were noble, and had retainers who survived, they'd do their best to get you home.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:01:02 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I remember in TKJ Duncan makes a remark about how much he hates being dirty and unable to get clean at night
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:01:13 PM EDT] <Imladris> The phrase having "guts" supposedly originated in the US civil war. you had guts if you stayed in the fortification lines with the diarrhea
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:01:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, armor was fairly expensive.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:01:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hopefully you were in the front line
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:02:13 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Not a good time to be in the rear
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:02:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Why hopefuly on the front line?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:02:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> oh, because of the runs?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:02:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Um, yep
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:02:51 PM EDT] <The_Bee> So you couldn't smell the guys behind you.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:03:14 PM EDT] <KK> Smells were the least of their worries.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:03:18 PM EDT] <The_Bee> In front of you, I meant
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:03:35 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> True
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:04:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Actually i suspect that is also a problem in modern wars. Don't think they carry por-a-tpotties along
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:05:17 PM EDT] <Imladris> sanitation is still a bit better now, DFK, and less dysentary
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:05:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> That's good
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:05:58 PM EDT] <Imladris> Valley Forge they did a lot for sanitation.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:06:03 PM EDT] <Imladris> to avoid disease
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:06:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> At what point did they make the connection between sanitation and disease?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:07:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> The medieval period was called the Dark Ages for a reason
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:07:10 PM EDT] <KK> Lister? Or was it earlier than that?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:07:31 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Change of subject: Our church service today was a homage to Yom Kippur; our interim minister apparently knows quite a bit about Jewish traditions.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:07:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Not as soon as they should have. I think the saracens did it first
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:07:56 PM EDT] <KK> The Saracens were a bit ahead on healing arts.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:08:32 PM EDT] <Imladris> Lister was germ theory.. but he was after valley forge
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:09:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> THe crusaders actually learned a lot from them but it was hard to convice the medicall men at home
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:09:46 PM EDT] <KK> Pretty late, then. And look what we can do now. Similar to how quickly technology evolved between Wright Brothers and the recent flight by the 4 civilians. Splashdown was cool!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:10:04 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Dorry cantToyp INcapussitated
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:10:10 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I've read that American doctors resisted the idea of washing their hands between surgeries.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:10:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> And they wore really dirty disgusting lab coats. It's a wonder anyone survived.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:11:13 PM EDT] <bynw> they did until the early 20th century
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:11:45 PM EDT] <Imladris> In the early 1900's was far safer to have baby with a midwife than in a hospital
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:11:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Really glad I don't live back then . I'm a big fan of sanitatioin.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:12:18 PM EDT] <Imladris> The Obstetricians would come from autopsy to deliver baby without washing hands
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:12:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> They regarded hospitals as places you went to die
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:12:37 PM EDT] <KK> Yep. Even a hundred years ago, some aspects of everyday life were pretty dire.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:13:03 PM EDT] <Imladris> and puerperal fever would kill mother and child.. My spouse lost a half-sibling that way.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:13:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> You are in many ways safer at home today than you are in a hospital, at least in avoiding other peoples germs
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:13:15 PM EDT] <Imladris> We call it Group B strep today
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:13:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I understand that up until about 1900, more women died in childbirth than men died in battle. lot of wounded in battle, but not so many deaths, compared to the babies.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:13:40 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That's why they don't like to keep you in the hospital once you can safely go home. You're safer, germ-wise, at home than in the hospital.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:13:49 PM EDT] <KK> Thank God for modern medicine!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:14:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Oh, that's what you meant by puerperal...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:14:18 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Indeed. And also the concept of washing your [bleep] hands.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:14:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I read somewhere that instead of washing the bed sheets after a childbirth, they rolled them up and used them again for the next birth. I always hoped it wasn't true
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:14:32 PM EDT] <The_Bee> My maternal grandmother died from a combination of influenza and pregnancy in 1920.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:14:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Maybe doctors should consider returning to making homw visits rather than have already sick people bunched up in waiting rooms
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:15:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, they sort of do, with virtual visits.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:15:29 PM EDT] <KK> But then they can't see as many patients. Virtual is a giant positive step that's come out of the pandemic.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:15:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm video-chatting for medical checkins as much as they'll let me, if they don't actually need to examine me in person.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:15:39 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I never felt waiting rooms were very safw places
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:16:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Yep, virtual visits are a big step forward
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:16:36 PM EDT] <Imladris> and the toys in the pediatricians' room
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:16:51 PM EDT] <Imladris> wasn
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:17:03 PM EDT] <Imladris> wasn't allowed to touch them....
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:17:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Plus you can keep track of your oxygen levels, heart rate, ekg with your watch.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:17:43 PM EDT] <The_Bee> On the other hand, you need to be exposed to germs to develop a strong immune system.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:17:46 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Wonder how much longer it will be before you can check your own blood pressure with your watch
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:17:50 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, go walk around an older graveyard some time if you want a lesson in the efficacy of cleanliness and vaccinations. The number of graves of children takes a SERIOUS drop along about the middle of the 20th C.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:17:52 PM EDT] <KK> Which of the various monitoring watches is best, these days?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:18:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Who knew watches could do all that, Everything except tell time
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:18:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And the number of graves of relatively young women, too, because childbearing dangers.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:18:54 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I'm not sure I want to be constantly monitoring my vital statistics
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:18:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I have nothing to compare it to, but I've really enljoyed my Apple watch. I'm planning on replacing it this Christmas.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:19:19 PM EDT] <Imladris> <<never wears a watch
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:19:38 PM EDT] <KK> You tell time on your cellphone?
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:19:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I wear a watch, but it's not a smart watch; it's a pretty Seiko my parents gave me for Christmas 2005.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:20:11 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I stopped wearing a watch after I read it wasn't cool to have a device that could only tell time.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:20:25 PM EDT] <Imladris> closest thing I do to a watch...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:20:31 PM EDT] <bynw> my cellphone is my watch
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:20:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> But now it's like aa very sophisticated computer on your wrist
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:20:35 PM EDT] <Imladris> did have a pager for a while...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:20:50 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> HATED my pager
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:21:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Bee, I t hought you were the kind of girl to not do what's cool! Just to buck the trends...
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:21:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> I have a fit bit for a wrist watch
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:21:15 PM EDT] <Imladris> liked pager better than giving out my phone number
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:21:17 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I leave my cell phone at home: I get too many spam calls.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:21:23 PM EDT] <KK> Lately, I've been wearing a watch that was my father's--heavy duty stainless. My beautiful Chopard has too small a face to read without putting on my reading glasses. I'm probably going to sell it.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:21:34 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I wasn't a fan of mine the day I locked my keys in my car, in the ignition, with the engine and AC running, in the rain, to answer a page. ;)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:21:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (My pager, that is.)
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:22:11 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Pagers and cell phones. There is no escape
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:22:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes there is. Large hammer
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:22:36 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Not really, no. I ignore my phone a lot of the time, or I cuss at it when it pings.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:22:46 PM EDT] <Imladris> For a LONG time... I was REAL careful with My Cell number.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:23:39 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I finally stopped answering any call I didn't recognize on my contact list
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:23:45 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> lots fewer spammers
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:24:12 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I've been blcking many numbers lately.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:24:19 PM EDT] <The_Bee> blocking
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:24:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> But now everyone wants to text you. When I take Pete to the vet, I have to call from the parking lot to tell them I am there then they call to tell me to bring him in.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:24:42 PM EDT] <KK> I answer, but as soon as a stranger begins their spiel, I interrupt and say, I don't need to talk to you. Goodbye. And then I disconnect.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:24:53 PM EDT] <KK> And I block them.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:25:01 PM EDT] <The_Bee> good idea
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:25:20 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> If I dont' recognize the number, I don't pick up. They finally learn. It takes some of them a long time, though
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:25:57 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> Plus if you pick up, then the spammers have a record that your number is active and they'll sell it to more spammers.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:25:58 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Me too though occasionally I miss a call I wanted because I didn't recognise the number
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:26:26 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I usually don't take out-of state calls. I answer MA and VT only. and Canada, where my sister lives.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:26:28 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Can you imagine how a cell phone conversation between Alaric and Duncan could go? "You hang up." "no YOU hang up."
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:26:31 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> It's true.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:26:35 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, I don't answer if I don't recognize the number unless I recognize the exchange (some of my doctors' offices might be calling from a back line).
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:27:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If it's important, they'll leave a voice mail and I'll call them back. If it's not important enough to leave a voice mail, it must not be important enough for me to pay attention.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:27:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> That's how I feel also, DR
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:27:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I hate texting.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:27:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm too accustomed to touch typing; typing on the phone just annoys me.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:27:52 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Sometimes they hang up as soon as I answer.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:27:58 PM EDT] <KK> I haven't got the voice mail activated yet on my new phone. Another task to take care of this week.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:27:59 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I don't mind using Facebook Messenger from the computer, because I can type like I usually do.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:28:07 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> I have a thumb that doens't work so I have a hard time texting.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:28:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> I got used to it bcause otherwise I would never have communicated with my grandchildren
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:28:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Laundry calls.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:28:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> When typing, my right pinky can do strange things and I end up with a K in words that don't have a k in them
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:28:46 PM EDT] <KK> Dog calls, at this end, wanting dinner. So I think I'll sign off for tonight.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:06 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Ah yes, Booker keeps HIS clock in his tummy
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:12 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I should go as well. Have a good week, KK!
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> goodnight KK, have a great one
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:17 PM EDT] <KK> Take care, all, and stay healthy. And chat again next week.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:17 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Nighters, KK! Glad you came. Haveagood week.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <DFK> Thanks for coming KK. Have a good week
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <Nezz (Bethane)> night Jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> NIght KK, have a good week. Thanks for popping by
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:36 PM EDT] <The_Bee> bye jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:38 PM EDT] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:44 PM EDT] <Eris> <Shiral> Bye, Jerusha
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:29:55 PM EDT] <KK> Nighters.
[Sunday, September 19, 2021] [8:30:04 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)