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KK Chat -- 17 November 2019

Started by DesertRose, November 17, 2019, 07:34:29 PM

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[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:10:48 PM EST] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:10:49 PM EST] <Matt> Comforting those who have recently lost someone
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:10:59 PM EST] <Matt> Welcome KK!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:11:01 PM EST] <The_Bee> Too many people have lost loved ones.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:11:08 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Hi KK, it's Judy
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:11:10 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:11:18 PM EST] <KK> Hmm, that would be me. Hi, guys.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:11:26 PM EST] <Matt> Yes, that they have Bee
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:12:22 PM EST] <bynw> hi KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:12:39 PM EST] <Matt> How are you KK?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:12:44 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Too much grief this year. Will be glad to see it gone.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:12:57 PM EST] <Matt> Yup
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:13:02 PM EST] <KK> I'm doing ok.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:13:15 PM EST] <Matt> Good to hear
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:13:35 PM EST] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:13:50 PM EST] <bynw> Hi derynifank i see you are also on the discord tonight as well. you have lots of XP from the game waiting for you
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:13:55 PM EST] <DesertRose> And hi Bee
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:14:13 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Hi everyone. Hi KK. Not sure you knew I am here
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:14:21 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Good to hear, KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:14:51 PM EST] <The_Bee> People here in Mass are mourning a firefighter who died on duty after helping two of his men escape a house fire.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:14:55 PM EST] <bynw> derynifank one would have to look or you would have to speak up :)
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:15:09 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> That's so sad.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:15:14 PM EST] <Matt> Oh wow, sorry to hear that Bee
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:15:15 PM EST] <KK> Today I got an updated bio to Galaxy Press, which will be reprinting "The Green Tower" in its next Writers of the Future anthology. (I'm a judge for t hat now.) I also did up a slightly revised and shortened version of "The Ghosts of Holybrooke" for Open Road that wil go on th eir online site. Good things to start getting me back into writer's harness in the new year, I hope.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:15:16 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Glad you are doing better KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:16:04 PM EST] <Matt> Good to hear about the new writing KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:16:20 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Look forward to any new writing from you
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:16:44 PM EST] <The_Bee> Yes, we all look forward to that.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:17:04 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Will be running in and out, making dinner, feeding cat
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:17:21 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Cats must be fed
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:18:35 PM EST] <The_Bee> Melantha's quiet now, but she's been quite a chatterbox lately.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:18:38 PM EST] <imladris> Agree with Eris, KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:20:41 PM EST] <imladris> Remembers the Green Tower, where was the Ghosts of Holybrooke published?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:20:55 PM EST] <KK> This isn't so much new writing, but at least it's something. I need to finish with the cottage, finish culling stuff from the house, get that sold, and find a new house first.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:21:17 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> That's a lot still to do
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:22:03 PM EST] <KK> Ghosts of Hoolybrooke was in the program book for World Fantasy convention, some years ago.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:22:38 PM EST] <imladris> Come visit the BigHorn mountains to rest. . ahhh why I never saw it.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:22:46 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Where will it appear now
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:22:58 PM EST] <The_Bee> You said earlier that selling the house was being put on the back burner for a while?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:24:02 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> getting ready to sell a house takes time.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:24:07 PM EST] <KK> On line, on the Open Road website.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:24:30 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> I know that the holidays are a bad time to rty to sell a house. I had a friend who put her house on the market at the beginning of December and it didn't move at all
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:25:14 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Everyone has Christmas on their minds...and pocketbooks
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:25:16 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> She had to take it off the market and relist it in early March
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:25:35 PM EST] <KK> And selling the house is only on the back burner until I get it ready to go on the market, which will definitely be after the new year. But the cottage is getting really empty. Should be able to go mack on the rental market in mid December. A horrible time to try to rent out a place, I knwo, but that's how it is.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:26:42 PM EST] <imladris> Well, My current place I rented last year starting January 1st... there are those of us out here....
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:26:50 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Think renting may be easier han selling in winter
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:27:46 PM EST] <KK> Yes. The house will not be an easy sell, but it won't sell until I can get it on the market.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:27:51 PM EST] <The_Bee> I just got told i owed $800 plus in back rent. :(
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:28:15 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Wow! That's a lot of back rent!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:28:36 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> ?? how did that happen.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:28:39 PM EST] <imladris> :-(
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:30:28 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Sorry that happened.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:30:42 PM EST] <The_Bee> I'm told that my rent last april was $500 and something, but that's not what I was told then. Unfortunately, I don't think I have and proof.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:30:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> any
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:31:11 PM EST] <imladris> They have it in writing in a lease??
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:31:29 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Did you sign a lease? Rent should be on that
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:33:00 PM EST] <The_Bee> She sent me their calculations, but I don't know if I can find my copy of the actual lease.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:33:39 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Hope you can find it
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:33:51 PM EST] <KK> If you pay by check, you should have access to the cancelled check.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:33:53 PM EST] <The_Bee> I didmly recall being told it was goiing up, then being told it wasn't.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:34:16 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Strange they haven't said anything all this time.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:34:22 PM EST] <The_Bee> Rent is supposed to be 1/3 of my monthly income.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:34:41 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Does that add up??
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:34:54 PM EST] <bynw> LOL rent hasn't been 1/3 of income in many decades
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:35:02 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> True. If you hadn't been paying enough thought they would have said something sooner
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:35:23 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> I know here 1 br apts rent for over $900 and up.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:35:53 PM EST] <bynw> bee, you should have a copy of the lease signed with the amount due and anytime it goes up there should be something in writing about it. otherwise they are in the wrong
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:36:21 PM EST] <The_Bee> I'm going to search through the disaster zone that is my apartment to see if I can find my lease. But I've already paid the back rent demsaded.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:36:42 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> something about this doesn't sound right
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:36:45 PM EST] <DesertRose> If Bee lives in subsidized housing, yes, her rent could easily be 1/3 of her monthly income.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:36:55 PM EST] <The_Bee> bynw, I'm in supported housing.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:37:14 PM EST] <bynw> yeah then it could be a fixed amount based on your income
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:37:25 PM EST] <bynw> i'd look into an atty too
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:37:33 PM EST] <DesertRose> But if you can find the lease/any other documentation, it might be worth your time to talk to your local Legal Aid about the way your complex management has handled this.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:37:40 PM EST] <The_Bee> or subsidized, not sure what it's called here.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:38:11 PM EST] <The_Bee> It all depends on finding the lease.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:38:13 PM EST] <DesertRose> I know Legal Aid in my area actually has an attorney who specializes in disputes with subsidized-housing management.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:38:14 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> You should definitely check it out
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:39:45 PM EST] Join The_Bee44 (The_Bee@7F791F.1DE43C.F0CC3F.6566B0) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:39:50 PM EST] <KK> Definitely.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:39:56 PM EST] <DesertRose> The reason I know is that *I* live in subsidized housing, and I had a hellacious dispute about this time two years ago about maintenance problems and management lying to and about me. The fair housing attorney with Legal Aid helped me straighten it all out.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:40:20 PM EST] Nick The_Bee44 is now known as Bee.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:40:24 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> bee, did you leave and come back?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:40:47 PM EST] <Bee> I thought i did.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:41:29 PM EST] Part Bee (The_Bee@7F791F.1DE43C.F0CC3F.6566B0) has left this channel.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:41:46 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Oops, it got Bee again
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:42:01 PM EST] <KK> Whoopos!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:42:36 PM EST] <DesertRose> I was seeing two Bees. I wonder if she's having connection issues?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:42:45 PM EST] <KK> I remember your fight, DR. But you eventually won!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:42:59 PM EST] Join The_Bee79 (The_Bee@7F791F.1DE43C.F0CC3F.6566B0) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:43:07 PM EST] Quit The_Bee (The_Bee@7F791F.1DE43C.F0CC3F.6566B0) has left this server (Ping timeout: 121 seconds).
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:43:10 PM EST] <DesertRose> I did, but holy [expletive deleted] was it stressful.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:43:33 PM EST] Nick The_Bee79 is now known as The_Bee.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:43:54 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> I remember, seemed like that went on forever.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:44:18 PM EST] <The_Bee> What have I missed?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:44:46 PM EST] <KK> Remembering DR's fight witih her apartment folk. But she won!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:00 PM EST] <DesertRose> I was talking about the fight I had with my subsidized housing authority two years ago.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:00 PM EST] <The_Bee> Bravo DR!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:01 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Discussing fights with renatl management
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:23 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> We were rooting for you
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:36 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> That's why I'm glad we were finally able to get a house. Rental is very stressful.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:40 PM EST] <The_Bee> Thank you all!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:41 PM EST] <DesertRose> And I appreciated it, whether I said so or not.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:56 PM EST] Join revanne (revanne@842092.C19ECF.14EC38.DA9DCD) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:45:57 PM EST] <KK> And now we'll be rooting for you, too, Bee.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:03 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi Revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:09 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Hi, Revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:10 PM EST] <KK> Hi, Revanne.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:16 PM EST] <revanne> Hi all
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:26 PM EST] <DesertRose> HoundMistress, I'm disabled; a house is a) more than I can keep up and b) WAY more than I can afford. My apartment suits Carys-kitteh and me just fine. :D
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:28 PM EST] <DesertRose> Hi revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:31 PM EST] <revanne> Awake so decided to drop in
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:46:46 PM EST] <The_Bee> How's your insomnia, Revanne?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:47:00 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> We rented from 81 to 2004
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:47:02 PM EST] <bynw> hi revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:47:03 PM EST] <imladris> waves
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:47:05 PM EST] <KK> You know, Bee, if you have a way to contaqct Julianne, her husband is an attorney and used to work with helping people stay in their homes. And he's a ferocious lawyer to have on your side.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:47:25 PM EST] <revanne> Not brilliant Bee :-(
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:47:44 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Wish I'd known him when we almost lost the house in 2011.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:47:50 PM EST] <DesertRose> About to say, it's Silly O'Clock your time, revanne.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:48:01 PM EST] <revanne> Are you having housing problems Bee?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:48:08 PM EST] <DesertRose> As if you needed me to tell you.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:48:22 PM EST] <DesertRose> Bee's housing complex claimed she owed back rent of a fairish chunk of money.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:48:42 PM EST] <revanne> Not good
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:48:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> Thanks for the advice, KK I hope it won't come to that. Yes, Revanne, I've just been told my rent should be much more than I've been paaying.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:49:00 PM EST] <DesertRose> And Julianne and her husband are fairly near you, Bee, IIRC, so they, he particularly, might know who could best help you.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:49:39 PM EST] <revanne> Hope you get it sorted
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:49:42 PM EST] <bynw> always good to talk to an atty before it is needed
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:49:46 PM EST] <The_Bee> But I'd better pick up my apartment before i start making a fuss.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:50:27 PM EST] <imladris> Can't complain to much $800 for what amounts to 4BR/2Bth
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:50:43 PM EST] <The_Bee> The manager has always seemed to act in good faith.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:51:14 PM EST] <DesertRose> They may be getting pressured from higher up the chain of command, even if your manager/the management staff themselves are good people.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:51:48 PM EST] <The_Bee> That could very well be.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:52:09 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> It had gotten very quiet
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:53:15 PM EST] <DesertRose> In my case, the management staff of my old building were massive jerks, but the higher-ups at the housing authority were much better/more reasonable, and the management staff at my current building are pretty cool.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:53:19 PM EST] <KK> If your rent is based on income, did you get an increase on your disability/social security at about the time they say you started not paying enough?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:54:12 PM EST] <The_Bee> No, SS changes haaappen in January, my rent runs through March.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:55:01 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Was $500 still a third of your income
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:55:02 PM EST] <KK> Then, what changed around that time, to make them think you owed more rent?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:23 PM EST] Join jerusha (uid321239@OWIRCN-53280135.irccloud.com) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:29 PM EST] <bynw> hi jerusha
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:33 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:37 PM EST] <imladris> Welcome Jerusha
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:41 PM EST] <jerusha> Hi everyone! Sorry to be late
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:47 PM EST] <revanne> One of the reasons I'm able to chat tonight is that DH is visiting DD1 in Cambridge to help her do some DIY on the house she has just stated to rent. Cambridge is crazily expensive so she has been lucky to find somewhere affordable
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:55 PM EST] <The_Bee> I have no idea. I'll have to did up the info they sent me after chat.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:56:58 PM EST] <revanne> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:57:02 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:57:16 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> That's good news Revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:57:30 PM EST] <jerusha> Rent can be very expensive
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:57:53 PM EST] <revanne> Cambridge is almost as bad as London
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:57:59 PM EST] <The_Bee> Cambridge England, I assume.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:58:12 PM EST] <revanne> Sorry, yes.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:58:56 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Lovely thqt you're here Revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:59:04 PM EST] <jerusha> Some of the places my DS's rented were more than our mortgage, and rats would not live there
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:59:19 PM EST] <The_Bee> I live near a different Cambridge. :)
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:59:28 PM EST] <revanne> Good to be able to be here DerynifanK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [7:59:44 PM EST] <revanne> :-)
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:01:09 PM EST] <revanne> This house overlooks a graveyard which is why they were having trouble finding tenants - having lived in our Rectory next door to an ancient churchyard DD1 doesn't mind.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:01:53 PM EST] <jerusha> Brave DD1
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:03 PM EST] <The_Bee> At least the neighbors will be quiet.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:11 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:16 PM EST] <jerusha> Unless the moon is full
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:26 PM EST] <KK> Can't understand why folks would not want to live next to a graveyard. As Bee said, Quiet neighbors!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:28 PM EST] <jerusha> Hi Eris
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:40 PM EST] <revanne> No werewolves as far as I know.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:46 PM EST] <The_Bee> and they leave their graves on Samhain.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:02:57 PM EST] <jerusha> Vampires?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:03:09 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Zombies!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:03:13 PM EST] <revanne> We used to say that KK, no trouble from our neighbours
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:03:23 PM EST] <The_Bee> Witches!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:03:28 PM EST] <revanne> Hopefully not Jerusha
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:03:42 PM EST] <jerusha> Just hope the dog does not find a bone
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:04:08 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Just watched Thriller again a week or so ago.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:04:51 PM EST] <revanne> DD1 is the scientist in the family and of a very pragmatic deposition
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:05:04 PM EST] <revanne> Disposition
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:05:09 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Quanah would love to find a sausage out of the pan.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:05:15 PM EST] <TheDeryni> Ooops. I left without changing my nick.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:05:49 PM EST] <TheDeryni> Hi Katherine.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:06:29 PM EST] <The_Bee> no problem, TD
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:08:10 PM EST] <The_Bee> Has silence fallen again?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:08:34 PM EST] <jerusha> Seems to have
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:08:34 PM EST] * TheDeryni looks ago
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:08:42 PM EST] <TheDeryni> Around!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:08:58 PM EST] <revanne> Sounds like it. I was just imagining the smell of frying sausages.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:09:19 PM EST] <jerusha> Not a good thing to do late at night
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:09:29 PM EST] <bynw> on a positive note. i'm plannning and hosting a family reunion for my dad's side of my family next summer. need to find 8 more addresses of family households i dont currently have
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:09:29 PM EST] <DesertRose> Sorry, I'm trying to do several things at once.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:09:52 PM EST] <KK> Sounds like tedious work, bynw.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:09:57 PM EST] * The_Bee offers mugs of hot cocoa with choice of marshmallow, whipped cream or peppermint.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:10:14 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> yumm
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:10:26 PM EST] <jerusha> That's a lot of work, Bynw
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:10:31 PM EST] <revanne> Yum Bee
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:10:33 PM EST] <KK> Hold the marshmallow, but the whipped cream and peppermint is dandy!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:10:34 PM EST] <imladris> just finished my dinner... made chicken three ways... Stuck two cooked chicken breasts away, and thinking of those drownies someone mentioned a while back
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:10:56 PM EST] <KK> Drownies?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:01 PM EST] <bynw> KK, it is a lot of work tracking down all the current branches. of siblings, cousins, 1st cousins once removed and everyone else inbetween that are still with us
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:14 PM EST] <KK> I know, bynw.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:28 PM EST] <revanne> Fun if it all comes together Bynw
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:28 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> They smell good, Revanne! With potatoes and onions.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:31 PM EST] <imladris> Brownies with butterscotch schnapps..
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:43 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Brownies with buttermilk
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:45 PM EST] <jerusha> Evie's version of brownies with thumbprints filled with liquor
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:11:49 PM EST] <bynw> its 30 households including me ... i have addresses for all but 8 of them. so i'm holding off the mailing until i get a few more of those 8
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:12:34 PM EST] <The_Bee> May your quest come to favorable fruition, bynw.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:13:02 PM EST] <bynw> i hope so, i'm already planning on doing it in 2021 for my mom's side
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:13:11 PM EST] <bynw> but its smaller
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:13:17 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Where is Evie?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:13:18 PM EST] <revanne> My DS is beginning to think of guest lists for his wedding and how to tackle the fact that our family is about 4 times the size of his fiancee's
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:14:11 PM EST] <revanne> That sounds wonderful HoundMistress
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:14:29 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Lou's favorite dish, or one of them
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:14:40 PM EST] <bynw> i picked my grandparents (dad's parents) and said started looking for everyone that came from those 2 by blood/marriage or whatever
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:14:53 PM EST] <jerusha> Will you be officiating, revanne?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:15:53 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Good luck with your reunion bynw. We had one for my father's family a few years ago and it was great fun
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:16:16 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> That's become a thing. My Niece's FIL got a license on line (minister) to marry her & his son. Then my nephew's weddng was the same.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:16:26 PM EST] <KK> My family is too small to have a reunion.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:16:30 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> 4:1 can be a daunting ration
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:16:39 PM EST] <revanne> No, DS's fiancee is Roman Catholic and Hope's to be married by the priest who married her parents. Which is lovelyely
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:16:42 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> We are too scattered to have much of one.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:17:00 PM EST] <KK> That would be cool, Revanne.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:17:01 PM EST] <jerusha> Yes, that would be
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:17:08 PM EST] <revanne> Rented fingers!!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:17:21 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> that would be aa special memory Revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:17:40 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Yup rented fingers
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:18:04 PM EST] <revanne> Especially as very sadly her Dad was killed in a car crash before she was born. So a link with someone she never knew.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:18:10 PM EST] <jerusha> There is a special on rented fingers this week; the second typo is free
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:18:12 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> that was ratio, not ration
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:18:12 PM EST] <The_Bee> Is Hope her name, or does she hope to be married?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:18:36 PM EST] <jerusha> Oh dear, revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:18:42 PM EST] <revanne> hope to be married.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:19:09 PM EST] <revanne> Lol at free typos
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:19:21 PM EST] <bynw> my first marriage was officiated by two very special people
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:19:38 PM EST] <revanne> Very special.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:19:44 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> well I hope they don't start charging for them, I would be way in debt
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:19:47 PM EST] <KK> :-)
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:19:49 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> Gotta go feed Lou (and me) so will hope to remember to be here next week on time! Everyone have a lovely week!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:10 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> You too Judy
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:10 PM EST] <jerusha> Nighters!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:21 PM EST] <revanne> Goodnight
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:28 PM EST] <KK> Nighters, Eris.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:32 PM EST] <Eris> <HoundMistress> 'Night all!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:35 PM EST] <bynw> night Judy
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:49 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Night Judy
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:20:55 PM EST] <The_Bee> Good night Judy
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:21:17 PM EST] <imladris> Thought I recalled seeing pics of the marriage, brynw
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:21:31 PM EST] <revanne> Going to say goodnight too and try to fight off the insomnimonster. Have a good week all.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:21:39 PM EST] <imladris> Glances at Katherine
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:21:56 PM EST] <jerusha> Nighters, revanne! Hope you get some sleep
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:21:56 PM EST] Quit revanne (revanne@842092.C19ECF.14EC38.DA9DCD) has left this server (Connection closed).
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:21:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> Nighters and pleasant dreams, Revanne
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:22:00 PM EST] <bynw> there are pictures of it
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:22:02 PM EST] <KK> You mean, the Jedi masters who married you, bynw?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:22:04 PM EST] <DesertRose> Missed revanne. :(
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:22:05 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Sleep well REcvanne. Sending you calming thoughts
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:22:40 PM EST] <imladris> will have to get picture of my new Bronwyn dragon posted in pets.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:22:53 PM EST] <bynw> yes those jedi masters :)
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:23:53 PM EST] <The_Bee> Alaric's sister is reincarnated as a dragonX) ?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:25:21 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> There is one picture in the gallery I think
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:25:39 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Of bynw's wedding. not the dragon
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:25:39 PM EST] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)).
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:25:55 PM EST] <imladris> yep
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:26:08 PM EST] <DesertRose> Off to post the log.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:26:13 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Did KK say goodnite or is the channel misbehaving?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:26:45 PM EST] <The_Bee> She wouldn't have left without saying good night.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:13 PM EST] <DesertRose> No, true, she generally says Nighters. I just saw that she'd left and didn't really look.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:21 PM EST] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:22 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> I didn't think so but I only saw her say nite to Judy
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:28 PM EST] <The_Bee> WB KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:31 PM EST] <DesertRose> And there she is. Rehi KK.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:41 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Rehi KK
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:52 PM EST] <TheDeryni> Okay, that was funny.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:27:59 PM EST] <The_Bee> Did you press the wrong key, KK?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:28:12 PM EST] <KK> WEll, I had just typed a long post, hit the return key, and it all disappeared. I could see the screen, but obviously the room booted me out.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:28:32 PM EST] <imladris> wb
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:28:53 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Hate it when I lose a long bit of typing
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:29:34 PM EST] <imladris> The EMR the hospital I am at .. does that.. maddening
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:29:42 PM EST] <KK> Anyway, I was trying to tell you that I have an exciting week ahead. A White House tour on Friday, and then the MET HD showing of Akhenaten, which has jugglers. It got a rave review on its opening night, a couple of weeks ago, but it's Philip Glass, and he's strange. Still....
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:30:02 PM EST] <The_Bee> K< try pressing CTRL+Z and see what happens.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:30:23 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Sounds like a fun week KK, Good for you
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:30:50 PM EST] <KK> And on that note, I'm going to check out, too. Another session at the cottage tomorrow, and then a doctor appointment. And there's more stuff later in the week.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:31:08 PM EST] <DesertRose> Okay, have a good week, KK. See you next week?
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:31:09 PM EST] <The_Bee> i learned about Akenaten in Sunday School, but no mention of jugglers.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:31:20 PM EST] <DesertRose> Thanks for coming tonight, and g'night!
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:31:22 PM EST] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green aparkles.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:31:26 PM EST] <Eris> <derynifank> Night KK. Enjoy yourself on your tour and at the opera
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:31:52 PM EST] <The_Bee> Thanks for coming ,KK. I hope th doctor's appont brings good news.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:32:08 PM EST] <The_Bee> appointment
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:32:10 PM EST] <KK> The jugglers are Philip Glass. He is strange. But since it's playing, and I've seen some scenes, it looked interesting enough to make the effort and see it.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:32:52 PM EST] <KK> Nighters, all.
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:32:56 PM EST] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: CGI:IRC).
[Sunday, November 17, 2019] [8:33:12 PM EST] <DesertRose> Okay, NOW off to post the log, since my brain is clearly overloaded. :P
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)