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Help me figure out a good Layout for Coroth Castle

Started by Laurna, September 08, 2016, 03:45:35 PM

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Laurna

May your horses have wings and fly!

Laurna

Well, silly me! :D I spent the afternoon doodling and came up with this.


May your horses have wings and fly!

Evie

Looks cool!  And the left/right door confusion doesn't look like it would be a typical scanning error ("deer" in place of "door" for instance). My guess is that KK has at least a rough sketch of Coroth Castle's layout in her notes, or some sort of partial one, and one version of the text is a correction of an error in the older version.  It would be an easy mistake to make, as we tend to think in terms of what is left or right to ourselves when looking at a picture, but someone in that picture facing us would have their left on our right and vice versa. I know KK uses floor plan sketches for at least some locations, because she kindly sent me her floor plan for Duncan's study when I started trying to work out the layout of the room in hopes of making a diorama.
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whitelaughter

Does it specify anywhere that the towers are equidistant? Because if not, and if the tower is influenced by Moorish design/the Moorish threat, then it could be influenced by Castel Nuovo in Naples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Nuovo
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@40.8386516,14.2517418,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAbPFbRIA2QVp7z787fsHkg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

On a related subject, does anyone know a good online resource for making castles accurate/believable for writing fiction/roleplaying?

Evie

I think I've seen such a site, but I can't think where at the moment. I'll see if I can look for it sometime tomorrow. I think I ran across it when trying to do a search for castle floor plans, if that helps.
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whitelaughter

Thanks Evie! There's no hurry for it (it'll be some time before I need it) but it'll be really useful, so am looking forward to seeing it :)

Evie

Quote from: whitelaughter on September 18, 2016, 10:16:15 PM

On a related subject, does anyone know a good online resource for making castles accurate/believable for writing fiction/roleplaying?

I'm not sure if this is the website I was vaguely remembering or not, but it looks like it might be useful for your purpose.  If I happen upon others, I'll post them here also.

http://medievalcastles.stormthecastle.com/castle-floor-plans.htm
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Laurna

Here is a site I have used a few times for details like how far a horse can go on different terrains, and what a shore line will look like.  But I have also seen maps of castles and dungeons to name many other maps both fictional and non-fictional here.  The trouble is there is so much information here that sometimes it is hard to find what you are looking for. But I like the sight for realism to details in writing fiction.

https://www.cartographersguild.com/content.php   this is the main sight

https://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=19730 this is the thread on horse travel.

I search for castle floor plans and came up with several threads to search through.
May your horses have wings and fly!

Evie

Quote from: Laurna on September 22, 2016, 12:25:20 PM
Here is a site I have used a few times for details like how far a horse can go on different terrains, and what a shore line will look like.  But I have also seen maps of castles and dungeons to name many other maps both fictional and non-fictional here.  The trouble is there is so much information here that sometimes it is hard to find what you are looking for. But I like the sight for realism to details in writing fiction.

https://www.cartographersguild.com/content.php   this is the main sight

https://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=19730 this is the thread on horse travel.

I search for castle floor plans and came up with several threads to search through.

Oh yes, I love the Cartographers' Guild!   ;D
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Laurna

Good morning Whitelaughter!

You just reminded me I have not shared my last version of Coroth Castle layout.  I don't imagine it is quite what KK had in mind. but it is as close as I can make it with the descriptions from the books.

May your horses have wings and fly!

Evie

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Laurna



I came across this image of the Castle of Ghent and instantly thought of Coroth.
Imagine this--you are rafting down the Rhengarth River toward Coroth Bay, and come across the north/west Blue tower of Coroth castle.
The only change would be the center tower along the wall would be taller. Add to the image the tallest green tower on the very left edge of the image, make it a level or two above the main hall.
Ideas?
May your horses have wings and fly!

Evie

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Jerusha

I like it, Laurna.  All it needs is the Corwyn banner flying from the ramparts.
From ghoulies and ghosties and long-leggity beasties and things that go bump in the night...good Lord deliver us!

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