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I don't remember when Niallan died; could it have been not that Joram wouldn't conduct ordinations but couldn't because he didn't have a bishop available to do them (because Niallan was the only bishop in the sanctuary as far as I remember, so if he had died at some point between the deaths of Javan and Rhys Michael, there wouldn't have been anyone else available to ordain anyone, and Joram was a pretty hard-line stickler for the rules)?

Niallan was still alive at the end of The Bastard Prince. His mention at the end of the book is only to point out that the new Archbishop of Valoret dared not to bring Niallan back. His fate after this point, Codex hints withstanding, is entirely up in the air.

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Okay, so that shoots that theory, at least through the end of the Heirs trilogy.  Back to the drawing board.
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I am really enjoying this thread. Is there any hope that KK will ever write the story of 948? How all those people died and whether Morgan ever learns he is descended from Camber are the two biggest holes in this history.

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I've been trying to formulate a list of people who knew about the Sanctuary beyond Camber's heirs just for the fun of pure speculation.

I'm sure some of the Michaelines who left knew about it, but who knows what any of them may have done with that knowledge.

There's Jesse, plus his sister, Seanna, Queron, and Niallan.

I was reading through the prologue of KJY, and there's the farrier, Ned, but I wouldn't be surprised protections were placed on him even though there's no mention of it, so he couldn't reveal much of anything. 

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I love that you are doing the research. Good job.

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So, I leave this here so I don't get sidetracked while reading through the parts of the books that are set in the Sanctuary.

We know that Joram moved Rhys and Evaine's bodies from the chapel to an undisclosed location. I don't think he moved any of the other Michaelines that were also buried there. His comment to Javan was just about Rhys and Evaine.

Is Camber's body still in the chamber that's underneath the chapel?
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Is Camber's body still in the chamber that's underneath the chapel?

I think it is, but I dont think that the current Camberian Council knows that it is there.

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Is Camber's body still in the chamber that's underneath the chapel?

I think it is, but I dont think that the current Camberian Council knows that it is there.

I wonder in Kelson's day if it was still believed amongst those who revered Camber's memory that his body had miraculously disappeared or whether Joram's insistence that he had moved his father's body had been generally accepted.
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Most, except the little group mention to be formed to know about Camber's body. Joram and the others that knew the truth wanted it that way.

 

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