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Codex Derynianus.
« on: May 19, 2007, 02:10:16 pm »
I bought the Codex (2nd version) earlier this year and have found it to be a treasure trove of information.  This book is a must for all Deryni fans.
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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 06:34:41 pm »
Agreed.  Have read it several times.  Truely a treasure trove.  A must for everyone of us.
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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2007, 04:15:39 pm »
Having been away from the Deryni I didn't even know that the Codex had finally been republished. I immediately went on several used book sites and found a copy at a Kentucky store for just under $5.00 plus shipping. I await with bated breath its arrival!

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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2007, 09:03:54 am »
Ursa, you won't be disappointed. And you made quite a deal on it. Congrats!

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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 06:17:05 pm »
Found an OOPS!!!  Check the death information on Marie de Corwyn.  There are 2 listings!  First listing: 1088, listed as Lady Marie de Corwyn, dies Sept. 2, age 17 years.  Second listing: 1089, Nov 2.  Marie Lady de Corwyn dies of the pox, age 18 years.  I think the second one is wrong.  hmmmm.
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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 08:59:46 pm »
I've come across a few errata myself.  When I have the time (make that IF), I might consider posting what I've found.  But don't look for that anytime soon.

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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2008, 07:18:41 am »
Can anyone explain me what the Codex is about? It's a story book or only a sort of "Deryni dictionary"?
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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2008, 08:27:55 am »
It contains an alphabetical listing of most everyone & any place mentioned in the series. There's also a chronological history of Gwynedd, its liturgical calendar, royal geneologies and maps of the XI Kingdoms. Plus brief bios of the authors and a listing of their books & short stories related to the series. I cheated, pulled my well-thumbed copy out to read the contents. It's in Latin & Greek, too.  ;D

Just pulling your leg. There are captions interspersed, but the body of the book is in English. HTH.

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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2008, 09:08:02 pm »
The thing that I like best about the Codex is that it explains how various people are related.  Of course, you have to do quite a bit of reading to find out some of the relationships.  Exactly how Jehana is related to Lewys ap Norfal is not discovered in a single entry!  Not all is revealed, however.  There is not enough, for me at any rate, in the Codex about the Arilan and de Courcy families, among others.

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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 11:49:53 am »
Thanks.
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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2008, 07:09:22 pm »
lenni,

The entry for Lewys ap Norfal states that he was a great grand-uncle of Jehana.  It just does not specify exactly how he is Jehana's great grand-uncle.
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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2008, 04:23:32 pm »
DeryniFanatic64,

lenni,

The entry for Lewys ap Norfal states that he was a great grand-uncle of Jehana.  It just does not specify exactly how he is Jehana's great grand-uncle.

You have to look at several entries to determine exactly how Jehanna and Lewys are related.  I think that Jehana's entry added something - gave more information about her mother's ancestry, I believe.

The Gwynedd data for my genealogy program is on strike right now, so I can't pin down the relationship exactly.

At a minimum, you have to look at Lewys' and Jehana's entries.  Maybe more.

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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2008, 06:34:59 pm »
The entry for Jehana lists her maternal grandparents.  As her great grand-uncle, Norfal is most likely the brother of 1 of Jehana's grandfathers or the brother of 1 of her grandmothers.  Or a brother of one of her 8 great grandparents.
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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2008, 10:23:40 pm »
DeryniFanatic64,

The entry for Jehana lists her maternal grandparents.  As her great grand-uncle, Norfal is most likely the brother of 1 of Jehana's grandfathers or the brother of 1 of her grandmothers.  Or a brother of one of her 8 great grandparents.

I was able to restore the data file from backup (YEAH! for backups!).

Régnier I Buyenne-Furstán -- Jolanthe d'Albéric
+ Murielle Buyenne-Furstán -- Tiraquell de Jordanet (1)
  + Jordana de Jordanet -- Isarn I d'Avoine (1)
    + Rosaura d'Avoine -- Meyric II de Besançon (2)
      + Jehana, i.e., Jehane-Julienne-Adélaïde de Besançon (2)
+ Louÿs Régnier Gaspard Buyenne-Furstán (aka Lewys ap Norfal) (3)

Entries from Codex Derynianus II:
1 - Isarn II Anaclète Jehan Flocon d'Avoine, Sovereign Prince of Logréine
2 - Jehana, i.e., Jehane-Julienne-Adélaïde de Besançon, Princesse de Bremagne
3 - Lewys ap Norfal, Lord du Joux.

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Re: Codex Derynianus.
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 09:03:28 am »
Very nice job tracking that down.  try this one.  ansel macrorie's later family name became macathan.  trace from him to sief macathan, father of krispin.  i think we need an updated codex.  there is no mention of sief, or many others of the childe morgan.  oliver de nore is there, but his brother septimus is not.
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