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Role-Playing and Other Games => The Deryni Adventure Game (DAG) => Topic started by: Evie on September 23, 2010, 10:54:01 am

Title: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on September 23, 2010, 10:54:01 am
While looking up copies of "Deryni Magic," I ran across a few websites that indicated there's a 2nd edition coming out soon with additional info that can be integrated with the RPG.  However, Amazon.com doesn't have this edition out yet, and Borders.com is showing it only available via backorder, although another website listed it as coming out in "March 2010," which means either it's out there somewhere, or else it's been delayed and that website simply hasn't updated their info.  Does anyone know if this book is out yet, and if not, when it might be coming?  (Shiral, maybe?  :D )  *insert puppy-dog eyes emoticon here*
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Shiral on September 23, 2010, 12:49:39 pm
While looking up copies of "Deryni Magic," I ran across a few websites that indicated there's a 2nd edition coming out soon with additional info that can be integrated with the RPG.  However, Amazon.com doesn't have this edition out yet, and Borders.com is showing it only available via backorder, although another website listed it as coming out in "March 2010," which means either it's out there somewhere, or else it's been delayed and that website simply hasn't updated their info.  Does anyone know if this book is out yet, and if not, when it might be coming?  (Shiral, maybe?  :D )  *insert puppy-dog eyes emoticon here*

I'd like to know when it will be out too, seeing that I submitted that manuscript to Ann Dupuis  over four years ago.  That anyone thought it was coming out in March of this year is news to me.

Melissa
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on September 23, 2010, 12:55:02 pm
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/edition/?isbn=1887154159

According to that page, it was supposed to have had an Ides of March release, but if it did, no one else in the universe seems to know about it.   :D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: AnnieUK on September 23, 2010, 01:14:16 pm
Oooh, on amazon.co.uk it says it is available for pre-order with a release date of 15th October.  I may well stick in a pre-order and see what happens.  :D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on September 23, 2010, 01:19:01 pm
If it does come out in October, I guess I know what I'll ask for as a birthday/Christmas present....

OK, who am I kidding?  I'll probably have it on order that very day!   ;D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Shiral on September 23, 2010, 02:29:25 pm
Oooh, on amazon.co.uk it says it is available for pre-order with a release date of 15th October.  I may well stick in a pre-order and see what happens.  :D

Okay.... I REALLY don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but I went to check Amazon UK and this raises some red flags, for me. My reluctant advice is... don't count on this, and don't set yourselves up for a big disappointment. Both Grey Ghost and KK are  U.S. based, and while this book IS listed on Amazon UK, I just checked Amazon.com, and only the original edition is available there. No sign of the second edition.  Which raises the question of why they'd sell it in the UK rather, or at least before they sell it here?

Secondly, having worked one on one witih Ann, she is, alas, prone to let due dates zoom past. You can write down dates to your heart's content, but don't count on this book being available THIS October.  It took three people three years to get the core role playing game out the door and I lost count of how many due dates fell by the wayside in that time.

Thirdly, I'm the co-author of this book. And I haven't heard a BATSQUEAK from Ann about this manuscript for the last two years, at least. Not letting the author  know the book is expected out in October one month before the supposed release date is enormously suspect, sorry. If for no other reason than I would have expected a lot of correspondence from Ann  in a "can you please fix X Y andZ?" mode; asking my opinion about illustrations, and formatting etc, if the book was truly in a state of preproduction let alone less than a month before publication day.


Melissa
The Bewildered co-Author
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: AnnieUK on September 23, 2010, 02:45:56 pm
Believe me, I'm hearing you, Melissa, but I know how few copies .co.uk normally get in for us UK folks and how fast I've had to move before to get them (I missed out on the HB of High Deryni and had to get it shipped over cos I was too slow) so I'd sooner have a pre-order and it not exist than not pre-order and miss it iykwim. ;)
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on September 23, 2010, 02:55:50 pm
So should I sit on Ann's doorstep and give her the sad puppy-dog eyes until this book goes to press?   ;D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Shiral on September 23, 2010, 03:10:04 pm
So should I sit on Ann's doorstep and give her the sad puppy-dog eyes until this book goes to press?   ;D

I've heard of worse ideas!  ;D

Melissa
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on September 23, 2010, 03:34:18 pm
So should I sit on Ann's doorstep and give her the sad puppy-dog eyes until this book goes to press?   ;D

I've heard of worse ideas!  ;D

Melissa

(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6645/harpsealderynimagicplea.jpg)

Feel free to forward....    ;D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: derynifanatic64 on September 23, 2010, 06:02:21 pm
WHO COULD SAY NO TO THAT FACE??
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Imladris on September 23, 2010, 08:32:01 pm
Well, an Amazon pre-order is how I managed a copy of the original Codex Derynianus!  So, it is possible. (of course, I first came across Codex in a "Forthcoming Books" in the pre-internet days. Would list as Forthcoming.. then disappear.. .then be forthcoming... then disappear. When I saw it on Amazon as a "forthcoming", expected the same thing. Was very pleasantly shocked when it arrived.

As far as the UK connection, it is the only way I was able to get a "HardCover" of Lodge of the Lynx.
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: AnnieUK on September 24, 2010, 02:00:20 am
Er, Evie, 0/10 on species recognition - that ain't no puppy, my dear!
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: AnnieUK on September 24, 2010, 02:07:57 am
DH has just pointed out that it says on Amazon.co.uk that it is in Spanish, so now I'm even more confused!  Alaric may read military history in Torenthi, but my Spanish isn't up to much!
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on September 24, 2010, 09:04:07 am
Er, Evie, 0/10 on species recognition - that ain't no puppy, my dear!

Does that mean I can't keep it?  *hides puppy chow behind skirt*

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DH has just pointed out that it says on Amazon.co.uk that it is in Spanish, so now I'm even more confused!  Alaric may read military history in Torenthi, but my Spanish isn't up to much!

Maybe there's a translation spell in the book, if only you can figure it out well enough to use it.   :D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Shiral on September 24, 2010, 03:37:37 pm
DH has just pointed out that it says on Amazon.co.uk that it is in Spanish, so now I'm even more confused!  Alaric may read military history in Torenthi, but my Spanish isn't up to much!

I can attest that the parts  of  the manuscript I contributed were written in English. Naturally Katherine's were, as well. I don't think Grey Ghost Press publishes in any other language than English. I have a smattering of Spanish as I live in California and Spanish words kind of creep  into local vernacular.  But... I don't know nearly enough Spanish to write a book.  I know--I saw that and think it's weird. Its  another one of the things that raises   my red flags about this record.

Cool thought about whether a Deryni could "translate" documents written in other languages without having to go through the trouble of learning that language first.  What a timesaver! :D

Melissa
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Imladris on September 29, 2010, 08:41:43 pm
1st, a blessed Michaelmas to every one.
2nd, I would agree that the term "puppy-dog" would not apply to the picture, but "Puppy" is quite accurate. As a baby seal is a "pup".

Be Safe All.

Imladris
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: the Bee on October 10, 2010, 07:15:50 pm
Er, Evie, 0/10 on species recognition - that ain't no puppy, my dear!
It's a seal pup, isn't it?  :D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on October 10, 2010, 07:52:15 pm
See, that's what I say, but do they listen?  Heck to the naw!   ;D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on March 30, 2011, 10:57:48 am
And yet again, I do an author search on a bookstore's website (this time trying to see what a local retailer might have available), and I find this:

http://site.booksite.com/2533/search-advanced/?familycode=1693344&search=yes

Stop tormenting me!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Alkari on November 23, 2011, 01:49:23 am
Thirdly, I'm the co-author of this book. And I haven't heard a BATSQUEAK from Ann about this manuscript for the last two years, at least. Not letting the author  know the book is expected out in October one month before the supposed release date is enormously suspect, sorry. If for no other reason than I would have expected a lot of correspondence from Ann  in a "can you please fix X Y andZ?" mode; asking my opinion about illustrations, and formatting etc, if the book was truly in a state of preproduction let alone less than a month before publication day.


Melissa
The Bewildered co-Author

Bumping this thread up.

Any further news, Melissa?   Can we help exhume book and author if they have fallen into a deep black hole?  :)      Could we send the Tardis after them?  ;)

Do we dare even hope that we may see it before CM3?   

Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: derynifanatic64 on November 23, 2011, 03:35:47 am
First, we need a phone that has universal roaming.  Then we need the phone number for the Tardis.  We can only hope that the Doctor can help in time.
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on November 23, 2011, 08:56:50 am
Heh.  Reminds me of a bumper sticker I used to have on my car that was based on the old "Federal Express--When it absolutely, positively has to be there overnight" advertising slogan.  "Tardis Express--When it absolutely, positively has to be there before you sent it!"   :D

Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Shiral on December 28, 2011, 02:03:06 am
Alas my dears, no. I haven't had any further word from Ann about Deryni Magic.  At this point, I'm more likely to phone Dial-An-Anviller and put Azim on the task of tracing her. (And doing a pretty deep mind-probe instilling motivational triggers in her mind when he catches up to her.)  But I don't really expect to hear from her.   

I think that record  for it on Amazon.UK was a weird blip on the radar screen. I still don't know A. why it's listed on Amazon.UK when Gray Ghost is a US based publisher, and B. Why the language is listed as Spanish, and both raise red flags witih me.  To ad insult to injury, they've got my name misspelled on the cover image, although that's the least of my worries at this point. But I believe we'll see CM 3 a long time before we get Deryni Magic 2.

Melissa
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: lenni on January 10, 2013, 10:17:18 pm
No good news on the Deryni Magic, 2nd ed. news front.

Back in August 2012, I found Grey Ghost Games (aka Ann) on Facebook and posted a query. She got back to me this past Tuesday. Here is the Facebook URL.
https://www.facebook.com/greyghostgames/posts/10151306595614985?comment_id=24458306&ref=notif&notif_t=feed_comment

If that link does not work for you, here is what I asked:
"Do you have any idea when _Deryni Magic_ will be coming out?"

Here is what she replied:
"I ran out of resources before I could get that to print. There's a possibility I may be able to release it in .pdf format but unfortunately it wouldn't been soon...."

I just responded with:
"Thanks. If the missing resources are money, may I suggest crowd funding such as Kickstarter.com or Indiegogo.com? Either way (paper or electronic), sign me up!"

Kathleen
Title: Re: Deryni Magic, 2nd ed.--out yet?
Post by: Evie on January 11, 2013, 12:43:31 pm
Yes, something like Kickstarter might be a great way to go.  The Second Life city of New Babbage managed to fund a first edition of a short story anthology written by several of the city's residents that way, and I've heard they are working on a second collection now.  (Or perhaps it's already in print; I haven't checked lately.)