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KK Chat -- 1 May 2011

Started by DesertRose, May 01, 2011, 07:49:33 PM

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[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:03:56] Join KK has joined this channel
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:04:01] <jemler> hi KK
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:04:10] <Shiral> Hello KK
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:04:16] <jemler> WAKE UP DR!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:04:19] <KK> Hi, people.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:04:27] <DesertRose> Hi KK. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:04:53] <Shiral> You're better than an alarm clock, Jemler =o)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:04:59] <jemler> i couldn't nuidge you DR, so I decided to yell! :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:01] <KK> So, did everyone watch the royal wedding?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:03] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:06] <Shiral> yup
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:20] <jemler> nope, didn't mniss it at all!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:28] <DesertRose> I haven't actually seen it yet. My mom DVR'd it and I'm going to watch highlights on Wednesday when I go up to Mom's to do laundry.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:46] <DesertRose> My new apartment building has a laundromat, but I can do laundry at Mom's for just the gas to get there. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:47] <KK> Oh, but you did. It was very....almost Deryni.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:05:53] <Shiral> although I caught the repeat broadcasts. If I'd tried watching in the middle of the night, I'd have slept through it all, which would have been a waste
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:06:17] <jemler> you mean Haldane?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:06:28] <KK> We got up at 0415 to start watching just before 0500, and didn't regret a minute.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:06:33] <DesertRose> I loved Kate's dress.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:06:51] <jemler> What's with the hats?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:06:52] <Annie> this Brit didn't watch a second of it - sorry
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:06:53] <KK> The dress was absolutely perfect, and much as I had imagined it would be.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:06:53] <Shiral> Me too, I thought it was beautiful. very feminine without being at all fussy
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:07:27] <KK> The lace sleeves and the V-neck were wonderful. And loved the veil and tiara.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:07:40] <Shiral> The silhouette was beautiful and everything was very well-proportioned. Not too much or too little of anything
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:07:55] <KK> Annie, how could you not have watched? YOu were right there.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:08:07] <KK> The service was great, too.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:08:11] <Shiral> And Kate nailed all four of his names in the correct order
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:08:14] <DesertRose> The top of Kate's dress looks a bit like the top of my mom's wedding dress, which I used to put on just to be silly.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:08:34] <DesertRose> Yeah, I remember watching Charles and Diana's wedding when I was a kid, and Diana messed up Charles' name. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:08:52] <KK> They're saying it had echoes of Princess Grace's dress, which it did in the sleeves and the general silhouette.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:08:56] <jemler> just showed she was human
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:09:08] <DesertRose> And probably nervous as hell, jemler.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:09:20] <Shiral> Who wouldn't have been nervous under the circumstances? =o)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:09:29] <KK> She'd only met him I believe 13 times before the wedding.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:09:56] <DesertRose> There's an article on Yahoo comparing Kate's and Grace's dresses.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:10:04] <KK> Catherine was amazingly serene. She'll make a great queen someday.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:10:15] <jemler> let's just hope this groom is smarter than his father. dad had a good thing going and screwed it up!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:10:23] <Shiral> I think the chances that Kate and William's marriage will last are greater. They chose each other, and they're much closer to one another in age
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:10:31] <DesertRose> Charles and Diana should never have gotten married in the first bloody place.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:10:41] <DesertRose> They were too dissimilar in temperament and interests.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:10:42] <KK> Amen.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:00] <DesertRose> But they sure brought into the world an attractive pair of children. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:02] <KK> And he was in love with someone else, and never intended to give her up.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:14] <KK> Yes!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:29] <jemler> like i said: Screwed up!, or down, or whatever..
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:36] <Shiral> Granted they were living in far more luxury than most people will ever have. But luxury doesn't solve every problem in a marriage. (obviously)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:37] <KK> Catherine will be the first queen with a university degree.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:41] <DesertRose> I rather shudder to think what Charles' children would have looked like if he'd married Camilla to begin with.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:11:59] <jemler> plus you just love the name, right? :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:03] <DesertRose> Oh, wow, I didn't know that. But I suppose most of the queens of the UK have been privately educated.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:05] <KK> Hmmm, yes. It would have been an entirely different ballgame.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:17] Join the_Bee has joined this channel (the_Bee@OWIRCN-268b09c9.ma.comcast.net).
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:20] <jemler> hi bee
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:22] <Shiral> Hi Bee
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:29] <KK> Hi, Bee.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:39] <the_Bee> Hi jemler and shiral and KK
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:42] <DesertRose> Hi Bee. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:47] <the_Bee> and DR
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:48] <jemler> they're commenting on the wedding fress, while I'm veing sarcastic!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:12:56] <Shiral> I liked the color of the queen's suit. Very springy
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:13:13] <KK> Privately educated, but not very well. Not in the sense that we expect today. Diana had no A levels or even O's, as I recall.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:13:22] <DesertRose> On the other hand, I'm glad Charles and Camilla are finally happy. Charles seems to be a much more pleasant person married to Camilla than he was before.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:13:30] <KK> Yes!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:13:37] <DesertRose> Well, Diana was never queen either. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:13:50] <DesertRose> But no, she was not of an academic bent.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:13:56] <the_Bee> Wel, the Brits have never demanded great intellect in their royals, have they?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:14:09] <Shiral> It's a definite argument in favor of marrying for love rather than political expediency
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:14:18] <DesertRose> Seriously.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:14:23] <Annie> private education can't give you what you haven't got
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:14:25] <jemler> Kelson would agree!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:14:29] <KK> And apparently Camilla had nerves of her own on Friday, being at the wedding of the son of her former rival, and knowing that some still blame her for what happened.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:14:36] <Annie> as my sister says "you can't put in what God left out"
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:14:37] <jemler> marrying for love i mean
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:05] <Shiral> The queen WAS brought up to be queen, though. As she herself as observed 'you can do any job as long as you have the right training.'
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:10] <the_Bee> But Kelson came to love Araxie after they wee betrothed.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:15] <KK> There have been some intellects in the past, but not that much in more recent times, until now.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:16] <DesertRose> I wish Kate and William well.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:28] <jemler> at least he knew her beforehand.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:42] <DesertRose> They do at least seem happy and not particularly nerve-wracked.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:57] <KK> Weren't some of those hats amazing? What was Psd Beatrice thinking?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:15:59] <Annie> I did laugh on Saturday morning - one of our radio stations announced that Prince William and the Duchess of Cornwall would NOT be going on honeymoon as he had to return to work. Just as well, since that's his stepmother...
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:16:07] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:16:09] <Shiral> Araxie definitely has a good mind, and for the time and place she grew up, she was well educated. She also had her uncle Letald to learn the intricacies of politics from
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:16:10] <Annie> Cornwall, Cambridge... all the same
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:16:11] <KK> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:16:24] <DesertRose> Nervous announcer on the radio, there. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:17:00] <Shiral> Beatrice and Eugenie looked rather as if they were visiting from another galaxy as far as those hats were concerned. Was amazed to see how old Prince Andrew looked
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:17:07] <DesertRose> Yeah, I've seen pics online of some of the hats. Wow.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:17:27] <KK> One of the best dressed women was Kate's mother. Beautiful outfit.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:17:29] <DesertRose> How old is Prince Andrew now anyway?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:17:45] <DesertRose> I liked her sister's dress too. That was a great dress, and so what if it was white?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:17:51] <KK> Raccoon eyes on the two Yorkies.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:17:52] <Shiral> Yes, very tasteful. Although.. I would have liked her to wear something other than gray
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:18:20] <Shiral> Hey, if Kate didn't mind her sister wearing white, I don't either. =o)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:18:31] <DesertRose> Okay, looked him up. He's 51.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:18:31] <KK> Kate's mom? It was pale blue, and Catherine Walker was one of Diana's favorite designers.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:18:58] <Shiral> Hmm, I just thought it looked gray on my TV. Maybe it was the gray day
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:19:16] <KK> Didn't mind the ivory on Pippa. It went with the little bridesmaids' dresses. Royals usually have children in the wedding party.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:19:25] <jemler> the way she's going, the kids will die of old age before Elizaeth does!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:19:39] <DesertRose> Well, Elizabeth's mum lived to be 101 or 102.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:19:59] <KK> Yeah, Charles isn't apt to have a very long reign. He's now officially the longest king-in-waiting in history.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:20:09] <Shiral> And she's just turned 85
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:20:13] <DesertRose> In all history, or just British?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:20:21] <the_Bee> I wouldn't mind living to see William on the throne.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:20:26] <Shiral> Maybe he's glad of that.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:20:31] <KK> British, at least; dunno about other royal houses.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:20:38] <Shiral> Charles, I mean
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:20:50] <jemler> Owain became king at 4!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:10] <Shiral> And ruled until the ripe old age of 28
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:13] <DesertRose> England/UK has had a few that were pretty young.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:15] <KK> It's got to be difficult, knowing that the only way you get to be what you've been trained to be is for your parent to die.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:17] <Shiral> (I think)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:18] <DesertRose> Richard II was all of 10.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:35] <Shiral> Kelson and Brion were both 14
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:42] <the_Bee> and Edwartd VI was 9, wasn't he?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:46] <jemler> some didn't wait.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:21:47] <DesertRose> Something like that, yes.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:22:10] <KK> If you don't like your parent, that's one thing. But if you do....
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:22:12] <Shiral> Prince Phillip must have been happy. He almost smiled a few times.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:22:34] <KK> He did look happy. And apparently even the Queen was impressed with the service.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:22:46] <KK> And she was happy on the balcony, too.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:02] <jemler> do the fathers of the brides pay for the weddings in UK too?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:05] <DesertRose> Yeah, I've seen the balcony photos with the little bridesmaid with her hands over her ears?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:14] <Shiral> I like those live trees in Westminster Abbey
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:15] <KK> Amazing that Philip is about to turn 90.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:17] <DesertRose> I don't know why I put a question mark there.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:23] <Annie> not this one, jemler!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:27] <KK> The trees were amazing!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:27] <the_Bee> I read once that Queen Elizabeth II regretted that she didn't have a chance to raise her kids before getting the responsibility of being queen.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:42] <DesertRose> Yeah, Charles was about four when Elizabeth took the throne.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:23:44] <KK> I'm sure that's true, Bee.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:03] <Shiral> And Priness Anne was only two or so. That had to be rough
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:09] <DesertRose> Charles is the same age as my mother, which is why I remember how old he was when his mother was crowned.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:34] <KK> They say that some of her happiest years were those few between her marriage and her accession, when Philip was a serving naval officer and they lived in Gibraltar, away fromt he eyes of the world.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:35] <Shiral> Elizabeth and Margaret didn't have to face that prospect until they were a bit older
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:36] <DesertRose> Actually, he's the same age as my stepdad too.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:41] <the_Bee> Did you see the verger turning cartwheels in his cassock after the ceremony was over?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:57] <KK> Yes. Tee-hee.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:24:59] <DesertRose> Yeah, Elizabeth and Margaret got a chance to be children before their father took the throne.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:25:16] <Shiral> I missed the cartwheeling verger, darn it. =o0
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:25:20] <Shiral> =o)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:25:32] <jemler> what's a verger?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:25:33] <DesertRose> I'll look for the cartwheeling verger when I watch the DVR recording at mom's.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:25:37] <KK> Google it and you'll find footage.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:25:48] <Shiral> I'll do that later.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:26:07] <the_Bee> a verger is a reverend of some kind. I think it's a job title.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:26:14] <KK> It was in accidental footage after the actual wedding, when most of the guests had left the abbey. I think it was Sky News that caught it, or maybe ITN.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:26:16] <Shiral> Wonder if Duncan turned cartwheels after he finished marrying Kelson and Araxie? =o)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:26:39] <KK> A verger takes care of a church or cathedral.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:26:47] <Shiral> hard to keep your miter on while doing that, though
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:27:06] <DesertRose> LOL, yeah.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:27:10] <the_Bee> IIRC he wasn't wearing headgear.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:27:20] <KK> No. Cassock, though.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:27:24] <Shiral> I'm being silly, Bee
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:27:39] <the_Bee> aren't we all?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:27:59] <Shiral> of course
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:09] Join Alkari has joined this channel (Mibbit@B83485.B30A8A.8DB8F4.7C0ECA).
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:14] <the_Bee> With a mitre hr might have got stuck upside down.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:15] <Shiral> hi Alkari
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:20] <DesertRose> Hiya Alkari. No mittens?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:21] <the_Bee> hi alkari
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:34] <Shiral> He would have needed good ground clearance, certainly
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:44] <Alkari> Hi everyone. No DR - half an hour before chemo starts, so having coffee!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:28:49] <DesertRose> Ah, okay. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:15] <KK> Mittens?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:19] <Shiral> The archbishop of Canterbury put his miter back on while wrapping Kate and William's hands in his stole.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:19] <jemler> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG5ndWXOmG8
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:22] <Alkari> And toasted apple walnut bread :D
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:26] <jemler> hi alkari. you ok?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:40] <the_Bee> How many weeks/months is the chemo supposed to last, Alkari?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:45] <DesertRose> Ooh, that sounds yummy, Alkari.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:47] <Shiral> I think the Haldanes would have felt very comfortable with the high-church aspect of the wedding
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:29:53] <KK> I thought he had it on the whole time he was performing the ceremony....
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:30:04] <Alkari> Yes thatnks. Today + another 2 doses at 3 week intervals.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:30:04] <jemler> that youtube link is for the verger
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:30:13] <Shiral> I saw him put it back on, though...
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:30:29] <Alkari> Yes, Shrial - I was watching that too
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:30:43] <Shiral> Just after they finished their vows
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:31:22] <Alkari> Then I turned back to the football - I was watching the ceremony in ad breaks :D
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:31:24] <Shiral> All those vestments must have felt really hot under all those tv lights
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:31:56] <DesertRose> Yeah, probably.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:32:21] <KK> I'm not sure how many extra lights there were. Modern TV cameras don't need as much light. Still, it would have been warm. And warm in Willian & Harry's heavy wool uniforms, too.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:32:26] <Alkari> Although the Abbey would still be chilly anyway I bet.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:32:31] <DesertRose> So, KK, how are you doing, royal wedding excitement aside? :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:32:52] <Shiral> When you're an archbishop and a pair of princes, you have to put up with some discomfort
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:33:08] <KK> Fine. Friday and even Saturday were essentially as wash, so far as getting any writing done. But it's coming along.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:33:15] <Alkari> LOL. Kelson would agree - so would Duncan and co.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:33:25] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:34:05] <Alkari> Have you killed off poor Kenneth yet, KK?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:34:09] <Shiral> And if you're not Deryni, able to lower your body temperature at need. =o) Hubert must often have been miserable, but then, he deserved it!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:34:23] <KK> I've had to backtrack a bit, and take Kenneth and co. to Lendour and Corwyn after his visit to his sisters at Morganhall.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:34:35] <jemler> Hubert's problem was that his ego matched his physique!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:34:52] <Alkari> That man dies from travel exhaustion, I reckon!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:34:55] <jemler> Overblown (overbloated)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:35:17] <KK> Right now, Alaric had a sweet conversation with Zoe, asking whether he can call her two sons and daughter his cousins, because he isn't old enough to be an uncle.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:35:25] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:35:29] <DesertRose> I bet that's cute.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:35:37] <Shiral> The Fratri Silentii--The 12th century Gwyneddan version of "The Biggest Loser."
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:35:41] <Alkari> Ah. Sweet kid
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:35:42] <jemler> neither am I! i'm only 48!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:36:24] <Shiral> I've been an aunt since i was 28. My nephew turned 20 on April 7th that was a shock
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:36:36] <DesertRose> I've been an aunt since I was 7.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:36:47] <the_Bee> I've been an aunt since 21.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:36:48] <DesertRose> But my oldest brother is 16 years older than I am.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:36:59] <Shiral> Well that would account for it
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:37:16] <DesertRose> My oldest nephew will be 28 in September. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:37:23] <Alkari> If it isn't giving anything away from CM3, KK, who is actually "managing" things in Lendour now in Kelson's time - when Alaric isn't there?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:37:41] <jemler> DR, that just means you've had a lot of practice at being a great aunt!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:37:43] <Alkari> LOL @ "old" Aunt at 7.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:37:45] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:38:17] <Alkari> As long as the "great" relates to her behaviour and doesn't give her pangs about advancing age :D
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:38:21] <DesertRose> I haven't actually seen my nephews and nieces in a while because my brother quit returning my phone calls for reasons unknown.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:38:22] <Shiral> If my family were royal, we'd be in a world of hurt, Dynastically speaking. Out of the four of us only my brother Alan produced a kid.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:38:33] <DesertRose> I might actually be a great-aunt by now. I don't know.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:38:46] <jemler> Think positive, DR!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:38:52] <DesertRose> My nephews and my older niece are all three old enough to have children.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:38:54] <KK> Sir Deinol Hartmann, the seneschal, and Jovett's father, Sir Pedur Chandos, and Jovett himself, along with a council of knights, all of whom act in Kenneth's behalf.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:39:09] <DesertRose> They are 27, 25, and 22 now.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:39:31] <jemler> are we going to see/hear from Sir Se?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:39:39] <KK> Oh, yes.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:39:48] <KK> Already have, and will again.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:39:53] <Alkari> He has to do some training for Alaric, doesn't he?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:12] <DesertRose> Oh cool. I liked Se.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:12] <jemler> i still think he's the guy who met Kelson and Dhugal on the beach.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:17] <KK> Yes, but not too much, because we know that Alaric doesn't have that much formal training by the time of DR.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:21] <Shiral> Whenever he's needed next, Jemler =o) He seems to have the knack for turning up unexpectedly when needed. Kind of like Gandalf, to completely confuse universes
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:23] <DesertRose> How do you pronounce that? Shay?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:40] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:45] <the_Bee> Shay when!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:40:47] <DesertRose> That's how I've been pronouncing it in my head.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:04] <Alkari> No - questions would be asked if a strange ANviller knight started turning up to spend lots of time with young Alaric!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:08] <Shiral> A one horse open Se
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:11] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:20] <Alkari> *groan*
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:21] <KK> Groan.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:27] <jemler> it's a little warm for that sone
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:30] <Shiral> Sorry, it just popped out
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:31] <DesertRose> They get going on the puns around here.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:33] <Alkari> Wrong time of year for that pun!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:47] <jemler> it's opun season!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:41:52] <DesertRose> KK, don't let jemler get started.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:02] * DesertRose smacks jemler with a mackerel.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:12] <KK> Don't know that I can stop him.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:14] <Alkari> Though I did wonder if Beatrice was wearing some weird antlers on her head at the wedding!!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:17] <DesertRose> He's a horrible punster.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:22] <jemler> thanks, I like mackerel
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:25] <DesertRose> Yes, Beatrice's hat was pretty ridiculous.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:28] * Shiral slaps self with trout, then produces scones, cream an strawberries
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:35] <KK> Wasn't that a monstrosity of a hat?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:47] <jemler> it looked like a staring pattern!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:51] <Shiral> A cream tea in honor of Kate and Willam
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:56] <DesertRose> I'll take some strawberries and cream with scones. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:58] <Alkari> I wondered if it was antlers gone wrong, or a leftover from a teletubby costume she'd borrowed.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:42:59] <Shiral> Was that a hat or a flying saucer?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:08] <KK> Eugenie's wasn't much better. It's almost as if the two of them set out to look outrageous.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:09] <Alkari> A stargate?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:21] <Shiral> The start of a very small alien invasion
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:28] <jemler> no, it wasn't a chappa'i
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:35] <Alkari> I don't knbow whether they get their taste from their mother, or whether they don'thave a mirror in their house.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:43] <Shiral> Well, if that was what they wanted, they succeeded briliantly. =o)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:43] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:43:44] <KK> I think Bea's hat was the worst of the day.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:44:04] <KK> And one of the prettiest was that of the Princess of Asturias.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:44:10] <the_Bee> Which one is their mother?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:44:21] <KK> Fergie.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:44:32] <the_Bee> ah ,yes
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:44:34] <Alkari> Say no more!! :D
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:44:39] <Shiral> She was definitely not comfortable in royal cirles
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:44:39] <jemler> maybe they sould have borrowed from those...what do you call them, with the tall hats?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:10] <DesertRose> Bobbies?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:16] <Shiral> Wonder if Oksana is going to be the future 'Fashion Don't'?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:22] <jemler> nop. the ones that don't smile
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:25] <Alkari> Lifeguards? Horseguards?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:26] <Shiral> Beefeaters?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:34] <jemler> thats it, shiral!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:38] <KK> I guess I'm just not a fashionista. I don't "get" sculptural fascinators.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:46] <Alkari> Me neither, KK
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:45:54] <jemler> butm how do you feat a bee? :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:09] <Alkari> With great care, jemler!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:13] <Shiral> They would have looked more stylish in those tall furry hats than in the ones they chose
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:20] <KK> And Zara's whole outfit was ghastly.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:27] <KK> And the Princess ROyal....
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:37] <the_Bee> At one time it was fashionable to wear a genuine stuffed bird on your hat.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:37] <DesertRose> Who, Anne?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:38] <Alkari> I didn't see them ...
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:46:50] <Shiral> I missed their individual outits--was too busy concentrating on Kate
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:47:04] <Alkari> The Middletons looked classy, what I glimpsed of them. And the Queen looked amazing for age 85
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:47:21] <Shiral> I liked her yellow suit--it looked cheerful
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:47:25] <KK> Yep. Anne had on a floral coat, purple & green, and an awful hat perched on top of her big hair.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:47:38] <DesertRose> Oh dear.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:47:52] <KK> Queen looked great, as usual, and Middletons all looked great, too.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:48:02] <Alkari> Anne's never had much fashion sense. But I still like her!!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:48:14] <Shiral> Good thing that William married a woman with good taste!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:48:36] <DesertRose> William seems to have some sense in his head.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:48:37] <KK> She's smart, too. A bit outspoken, but never at the expense of the monarchy.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:48:38] <Alkari> And someone who's 'been around' in the world more than Di
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:49:05] <DesertRose> brb
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:49:22] <Shiral> If you're going to live in a luxurious fishbowl, it's good to live there with someone you really love
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:49:34] <Alkari> Yes. She once threatened to ride over any journalist who next tried toleap out at her and her horse when on a cross country course!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:49:58] <KK> Wealth confers many advantages besides mere luxury. Travelling is one of them.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:50:22] <Shiral> Considering how easilly horses are spooked and that could have lead to serious injuries for both horse and rider, good for her1
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:50:25] <jemler> yes, since you don't have to work for a living.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:51:05] <Alkari> Well, they do "work" Jemler - those hundreds of engagements every year are just as much work in their own way as anything else
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:51:12] <KK> Speaking of horses, you do know that one slipped and went down on a turn, dumping its rider, and then went galloping along with the procession back to Buik House.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:51:25] <Alkari> No, I didn't see that!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:51:46] <the_Bee> The good rich treat money as a trust to be lived up to.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:51:47] <Alkari> Poor horse. But at least it stuck with the procession and didn't bolt into the crowd
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:51:53] <Shiral> I did see a pretty agitated horse being quickly lead off the carriage route in the background. i think it was riderless
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:01] <KK> That was the one.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:12] <Alkari> Yes, it would have beencaught quickly
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:23] <Shiral> With all that noise going on, I don't blame the horse!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:31] <the_Bee> Wa the rider okay?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:31] <Alkari> They are SO amazing those horses.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:41] <KK> I thought I'd caught glimpses of a riderless horse several times during the live coverage, and I was right.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:43] <Shiral> Good that nobody was seriously hurt, though
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:52:56] <KK> Rider was ok, horse was ok. It just slipped and fell.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:53:19] <Alkari> I would hope so Bee - wouldn't havebeen a heavy fall. Though a friend of mine fell off at the walk andbroke herarm!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:53:35] <Alkari> eek - look at time! I have to get going.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:53:43] <DesertRose> Okay, take care Alkari.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:53:46] <Alkari> Bye KK and everyone else. Nice to catch up.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:53:49] <KK> It was one of those turns where the whole line of horses has to pivot, and the ones on the far end have to go faster so that the whole line pivots together. That's when it slipped.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:53:51] <Alkari> Happy writing KK.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:53:56] <jemler> nite alkari. good luck!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:54:03] <the_Bee> good to see you, alkari. hope the chemo isn't too bad.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:54:03] <Shiral> My mom and I actually got to see the Royal Mews, once. We kind of stumbled on it by accident, but it was a highlight of our trip. They had a tee-shirt there I wish we'd bouhght. it was of two kittens wearing crowns and under it was "The Royal Mews."
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:54:06] <KK> Nite, Alkari.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:54:16] * Alkari waves at everyone and heads for her local transfer portal ....
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:54:20] <Shiral> Bye Alkari. Good luck with the chemo
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:54:21] <KK> Shiral, ya shoulda!
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[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:55:21] <Shiral> Retrospect is always perfect, KK! It was 1979, and they were asking a pretty steep price for it even for then. We reluctantly decided against it
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:55:27] <DesertRose> All cats think they're royal, or even divine. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:55:28] <KK> Back in about 10 min. I have to start supper.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:55:31] <DesertRose> Okay.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:55:34] <Shiral> It would be rags by now, anyway1
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:55:44] <Shiral> Sorry, my shift key is not working properly
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:56:05] <the_Bee> we knew what you meant.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:56:30] <jemler> just type out the punctuation marks exalamtion point smiley
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:56:58] <Shiral> I was channel surfing last night, an on the Animal Planet, they had a show with some of the cutest kittens EVER!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:57:35] <the_Bee> I wanted to watch that, but my dish plan doesn't include Animal Planet. (:
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:57:42] <Shiral> I was promptly reduced to total goo..
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:58:00] <DesertRose> LOL, I don't even *have* dish or cable. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:58:21] <DesertRose> Just internet, because I don't think I can live without my net. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:58:26] <jemler> you use rabbit ears, DR?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:58:34] <DesertRose> Use the TV only for the DVD player.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:59:13] <Shiral> I know I watched much less TV before I got cable. Now I figure I almost have to watch to justify the expense
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:59:18] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:59:50] <Shiral> Can't do without my high-speed internet, though
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:59:55] <DesertRose> No, me neither.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [19:59:58] <the_Bee> I have cable and Satellite. I relly ought to drop one, but I can't decide which.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:00:34] <Shiral> I often feel guilty and think I should cancel cable tv then they go and show something I really want to see
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:00:36] <the_Bee> My Dish isn't hooked up to my DVR.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:01:13] <Shiral> I tried putting dishes on the roof--didn't do a THING For my Tv reception and i didn't have anything to eat off of
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:01:18] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:01:37] <jemler> wrong knd of dish i think!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:01:42] <Shiral> So I gave up and got cable
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:02:10] * Shiral wonders if kk will have the courage to kill off Kenneth when push comes to shove...
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:02:22] <Shiral> he's been on the point of death for a long time, now...
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:02:28] <DesertRose> She's not shy about killing off characters.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:02:43] <Shiral> True
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:02:53] <the_Bee> She doesn't have much choice, since he was dead in DR.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:02:57] <Shiral> Alaric needs to get to court, though!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:03:57] <DesertRose> Yup.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:04:44] <the_Bee> I want to see more of Bronwyn. We barely got to know her in Deryni Checkmate.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:04:46] <Shiral> Want him to have his adventures with Brion
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:05:19] <Shiral> Me too, Bee
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:11:36] <the_Bee> I wonder what exactly were the terms of Alyce's will that kept Bronwyn and Kevin from marrying sooner.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:12:21] <the_Bee> I undrstand she did it to protect her daughter from being forced into marriage, but...
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:12:24] <Shiral> I've often wondered that. Did she hope her daughter would marry a deryni?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:12:47] <DesertRose> I doubt we'll ever know.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:13:19] <the_Bee> unless KK puts it in a book.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:13:49] <Shiral> mumble it seems that she could stick it somewere in the Childe Morgan books....
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:13:53] <DesertRose> Well, given that Alyce died at the end of the last book, I don't know that we'll ever know her motivations.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:15:08] <KK> I'm back. Dinner is in the oven.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:15:33] <DesertRose> YAY!! WB
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:15:37] <DesertRose> What's for supper? :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:16:36] <KK> It's a Swanson thing that I only recently discovered. Comes in a box with can of chicken and gravy and a packet of instant mash and another of biscuit mix--everything you need.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:16:43] <DesertRose> Ah.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:16:48] <DesertRose> I've used those before. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:17:12] <DesertRose> I think I made the cottage pie one.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:17:22] <KK> It's quite good. I also throw in some peas or other leftover veggies, an it's a meal for 3.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:17:43] <Shiral> I always use a fresh cottage in cottage pie makes all the difference
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:01] <the_Bee> I get my dinners from senior services.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:06] <DesertRose> (Marketed as shepherd's pie, but I've gotten severely dressed down by a British friend for referring to cottage pie [with beef] as shepherd's pie [which properly is made with lamb].)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:23] <KK> Gus has just joined me. There may be typos.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:27] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:33] <the_Bee> hello Gus!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:39] <DesertRose> Evie always has that issue because of Luke.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:44] <Shiral> Dmitri thinks my laptop is a pillow.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:18:57] <DesertRose> He knows a cat warmer when he finds one. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:19:13] <the_Bee> Is he starting togrow up and slow down, Shiral?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:19:14] <Shiral> And a way to get attention, yes. =o0
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:19:29] <Shiral> He's humongous, Bee
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:19:47] <Shiral> Bigger and heavier than Cesca
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:19:53] <DesertRose> KK, Evie isn't here tonight because she's doing tornado relief.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:20:02] <Shiral> And he's.... about a year old now, I think
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:20:08] <KK> Well,she's a petite girl.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:20:28] <DesertRose> She lives in Birmingham, AL, and they caught all kinds of hell from that storm.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:20:48] <KK> Did she get hit, or just helping out?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:20:52] <Shiral> Every now and then I pick her up, give her some love and she gives me this exasperated 'how COULD you?' look of reproach
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:20:57] <DesertRose> Just helping out.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:21:01] <DesertRose> She and her family are fine.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:21:06] <Shiral> She was incredibly lucky
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:21:36] <DesertRose> Yeah, tornadoes are odd things.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:21:51] <Shiral> I'll stick with Earthquake Country, thanks!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:21:59] <DesertRose> I'm just glad the storm had raged most of its fury out by the time it got to Florida.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:22:33] <DesertRose> Tropical cyclones will sometimes spawn tornadoes, and that is NO fun.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:22:43] <KK> We even had a couple of tornadoes hit about 10 miles from us. Very unusual for this part of VA, we hear. But there's worry that if one came down between our two mountain ranges, it could bounce around in the valley for some time. :-(
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:22:50] <DesertRose> EEEP.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:22:50] <Shiral> those tornadoes were wicked
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:22:54] <the_Bee> and May and June are usually the biggest tornado months. Makes you wonder if the worst is yet to come.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:23:00] <jemler> same here in ohio
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:23:10] <DesertRose> Yeah, Evie posted pics her husband took of the tornado in downtown Birmingham from his office.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:23:25] <KK> Wel, this is apparently a record-breaking season.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:23:26] <DesertRose> I can't remember where on RC.com the link is, though.
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[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:08] <DesertRose> Hiya Kelric.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:10] <the_Bee> hi kelric
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:13] <Shiral> Hi Kelric
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:21] <DesertRose> Evidently so, KK.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:30] <DesertRose> I shudder to think what hurricane season is going to be like this year.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:36] <jemler> hi kelric
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:44] <Shiral> Let's take our disasters one at a time
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:24:48] <DesertRose> Seriously.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:25:04] <DesertRose> Jacksonville almost never gets hurricanes, not the big ones.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:25:12] <DesertRose> But of course, I say that and might hex the whole city.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:25:13] <the_Bee> Are you right on the coast, DR?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:25:26] <DesertRose> Pretty much. I live in downtown Jacksonville.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:25:31] <Shiral> Don't even drawit to you!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:25:37] <DesertRose> I'm not on the beach or anything.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:25:58] <DesertRose> I would have to evacuate for a Cat 3 or higher.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:26:04] <Shiral> Sorry, cat head on keyboard
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:26:24] <DesertRose> But I could probably evacuate to my parents' house; they don't have to evacuate until there's a Cat 5 storm.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:09] <DesertRose> I've lived in coastal cities almost all my life. I'm used to hurricane season.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:16] <KK> I was talking to my dad yesterday, and he said that if he has to take down his dish for hurricane prep, that will be his sign that it's time to switch to cable.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:20] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:33] <DesertRose> Does your dad still live in Florida?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:38] <Shiral> Tee hee!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:42] <KK> Yep, Ft. Lauderdale.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:52] <KK> Turned 86 on Friday.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:52] <DesertRose> Ah, yes. Nice and warm there.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:27:59] <DesertRose> Wow. Happy birthday to KK's Dad then.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:28:00] <KK> Nice and HOT there.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:28:03] <Shiral> wow
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:28:12] <the_Bee> How does he endure the invasion of college students on spring break?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:28:19] <Shiral> Happy birthday two days late
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:28:34] <the_Bee> many happy returns to KK's dad.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:28:37] <KK> They don't really do that much anymore, and besides, he's actually north of the beach activity, in Margate.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:29:04] <DesertRose> Yeah, Ft. Laud isn't the spring break haven it used to be, I don't think.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:29:20] <KK> PLus, they don't go to the beach anymore. But they do mall-walk about 4 days a week, to keep fit. It must be working.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:29:30] <DesertRose> Daytona Beach is still a big attraction, heaven only knows why.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:29:40] <DesertRose> Evidently. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:29:52] <KK> Car racing at Daytona.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:14] <DesertRose> Yeah. But the city itself is kind of skeezy.
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[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:28] <DesertRose> I've been down there a few times. It's really not that nice.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:29] <Shiral> Hi DF
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:31] <the_Bee> hi DF!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:35] <DesertRose> Hi derynifanatic64.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:43] <derynifanatic64> better later than never
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:48] <KK> Welcome, DF.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:30:53] <DesertRose> And KK's still here. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:31:02] <derynifanatic64> hi all
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:31:32] <KK> This is the farthest I've ever lived from a coast.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:31:57] <DesertRose> I was born a good ways inland, but I've never lived far from water of some sort, be it a river, a lake, or an ocean.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:31:59] <KK> Would love to be able to take the dogs to the beach, but not from here.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:00] <jemler> hi df64
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:19] <DesertRose> If it were daylight outside right now, I could look out at the St. John's River from my apartment building.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:31] <KK> That's cool!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:34] <DesertRose> Dogs always have such a good time at the beach.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:40] <derynifanatic64> 4in florida-you're never more than 50 miles from the beach
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:45] <DesertRose> Yup.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:50] <the_Bee> if they're not banned.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:53] <DesertRose> True.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:32:57] <Shiral> I definitely love beaches more than mountains
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:33:05] <KK> Oswald used to really enjoy it in Ireland. We had to start spelling it, because he'd go bonkers if you mentioned beach.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:33:20] <DesertRose> Around here they have to be leashed and you have to be careful to scoop the poop. You'll get in a great deal of trouble for leaving dog poo on the beach.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:33:33] <derynifanatic64> 4or anywhere
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:33:41] <KK> That's another problem: finding a dog-friendly beach. Ireland was more dog-friendly, as long as you poop-scooped.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:33:44] <the_Bee> We lived right near the ocean until I was 5. When I was 3 or 4 I got spanked for going down by myself.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:34:05] <Shiral> we used to have to spell out w-a-l-k or our dog Pippin would go crazy with joy
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:34:10] <DesertRose> Jax Beach lets you take leashed dogs to the beach. I've seen all kinds of dogs on leashes.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:34:23] <KK> That's very civilized.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:34:49] <DesertRose> Well, they don't want some big freaking dog scaring (or worse, hurting) anybody.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:34:53] <Shiral> At the beach, he'd run along the water line and try to bark the waves back out to sea. He was a sheepdog, after all. And he hated water.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:35:08] <derynifanatic64> 4:D
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:35:22] <KK> Oswald never swam either--not builit for swinning--but he loved to run along the edge.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:35:34] <KK> (Cat still on lap.)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:35:45] <the_Bee> Maybe you should have renamed Pippin "Canute."
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:35:45] <DesertRose> I've seen plenty of dogs who didn't like to swim, but liked to splash in the very shallow water at the edge.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:36:10] <Shiral> Maybe so, Bee. =o)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:36:11] <DesertRose> But of course, Labradors just go flying into the water like it's nothing.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:36:18] <derynifanatic64> 4the one dog I had hated the water
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:36:20] <the_Bee> None of our dogs were swimmers.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:01] <Shiral> He lived a really frustrating life, as he had no sheep to herd and his family was very uncooperative when he'd try to keep us together on family picnics
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:09] <KK> For the 6 months we lived in a cottage in Ireland, before we made the move, there was a pond on the way between the cottage and the store at the end of the drive where we had to opick up our mail, and Oswald loved to wade in it--always on the way BACK, not on the way away from the cottge, so he would always have muddy feet and belly.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:12] <DesertRose> Neil was a swimmer. Neil was also a dipstick, but that's a whole different story. :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:19] <DesertRose> LOL, KK.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:36] <KK> I had to keep a towel in the entryway, to wipe off feet and belly.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:41] <DesertRose> Oh dear.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:45] <the_Bee> How old is Oswald now?
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:50] <derynifanatic64> 4some dogs are so silly
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:53] <KK> Oswald is 13.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:37:58] <DesertRose> Neil was definitely a very silly dog.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:38:09] <derynifanatic64> 4so was my dog Susie
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:38:17] <the_Bee> 13 is a ripe old age for a big dog.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:38:20] <KK> Still in good shape, but starting to slow down a bit.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:38:33] <DesertRose> My ex-step-dog is about 10 or 11 by now.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:38:43] <DesertRose> Getting a bit up there for a dog.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:38:53] <KK> It's good innings for a Lab or a Bassett or a Golden--and he's all 3.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:11] <KK> That's why we got Booker and then Warner, who are 2 and 1 now.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:13] <DesertRose> Well, I'm glad Oswald's still doing well.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:20] <the_Bee> My sister's dog used to chew up my toothbrush when I visited.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:22] <derynifanatic64> 4Susie lived to be 12
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:29] <DesertRose> Warner has garnered commentary on RC.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:33] <KK> Yeah, it will be the end of an era when he goes to the rainbow bridge.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:36] <DesertRose> For being cute.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:52] <KK> He is incredibly cute.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:57] <DesertRose> He is indeed.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:39:59] <KK> And very sweet.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:09] <DesertRose> Sweet dogs are the best.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:17] <KK> Ah, I hear my tiner beeping, so I must away.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:26] <DesertRose> Okay, take care, KK. Thanks for visiting with us! :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:30] <Shiral> I remember Oswald was very keen on sharing my fish and chips
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:33] <the_Bee> good eating and good writing, KK!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:33] <DesertRose> Enjoy supper.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:34] <KK> See you next week, hopefully with lots of good progress to report.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:41] <DesertRose> Yay!! :)
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:42] <jemler> nite kk
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:42] <Shiral> night, kk. Hope this is a good writing week!
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:45] <KK> LOL, Shiral. Yes.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:40:52] <Shiral> For both of us1
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:41:02] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:41:03] <derynifanatic64> 4good bye KK
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:41:06] <Shiral> at some point, the keys must be hit1
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:41:18] <Shiral> night, kk
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:41:21] <KK> Nighters, all.
[Sunday 01 May 2011] [20:41:23] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: ).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)