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KK Chat -- 30 June 2019, Part 1

Started by DesertRose, June 30, 2019, 08:25:36 PM

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[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:00:42 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:00:48 PM EDT] <Evie> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:00:49 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Hi KK!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:00:54 PM EDT] <bynw> hi KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:00:59 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, folks!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:01:33 PM EDT] <the_Bee> How are people doing? and new news?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:02:19 PM EDT] <the_Bee> any
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:02:44 PM EDT] <KK> Pretty much same old, same old for me, though Cameron and I did look at a couiple of houses this aftyernoon.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:02:58 PM EDT] <Evie> See any that you like?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:03:01 PM EDT] <the_Bee> see anything you like?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:03:19 PM EDT] <the_Bee> GMTA!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:04:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> HI KK!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:04:42 PM EDT] <KK> The seciond one might work, but it isn't ideal. Too soon to make any decisions, though. But I needed to start getting a feel for what's out there. .
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:03 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Evie & Desert Rose.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And Hi Evie, Bee, and Goatmistress
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:13 PM EDT] <KK> And all the rest of you.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:18 PM EDT] <the_Bee> good idea. any progress getting your old house reaady to sell?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:18 PM EDT] Join Derynifank (uid323731@OWIRCN-05689af3.irccloud.com) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:22 PM EDT] <Goatmistress> Hi
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:22 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Derynifank
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:30 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Hi DFK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:05:34 PM EDT] <KK> Working on it, but it's slow going.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:06:15 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Hi all. My DDH is improving and is home. Thanks for all your support
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:06:30 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Does WeBuyUglyHouses.com work in your state?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:06:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Glad to hear he's home. He's probably glad to be home too. Being in the hospital is no fun.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:06:51 PM EDT] <KK> Probably. But my house isn't ugly, by any means.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:07:18 PM EDT] <the_Bee> It just means they'll buy your house as is.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:07:20 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And I don't think the problem is a lack of buyers in the case of KK's house; it's a matter of dealing with belongings and getting the house ready to be on the market.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:08:27 PM EDT] <KK> No one could possibly buy my house as is. Too much stuff to sort and disperse.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:08:58 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Some of those groups like we buy ugly houses are actually flippers and they take even some historic properties and redo them cheaply, replacing original features with the cheapest thing they cna==an find and ruin them
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:09:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My parents are playing the sort-of long game on that with their house. They're pretty sure they're going to sell it in the next few years, because now that the Pod-Child has moved to her own place, they don't really need three bedrooms, and the day is going to come when my stepdad doesn't want to (or can't) keep up with mowing the yard (the land is almost an acre, and the house isn't all that big).
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:09:20 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I didn't know that.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:09:49 PM EDT] <Derynifank> An acre is an awful lot to mow.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:09:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It is. Even with a riding mower, which he has.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:10:50 PM EDT] <the_Bee> When my parents moved on impulse, they just sold their house to the bank.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:10:55 PM EDT] <Derynifank> I now have a yard guy that I pay to do the heavy yard work, trimming hedges, and mowing and such
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:11:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And after his falling out of a tree about five years ago, he's not allowed to do anything in the yard without having his phone on him.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:11:30 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Good idea!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:11:32 PM EDT] <KK> When I look at how much still has to be done, I have to remind myself how much I've already done. Helps keep me sane.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:11:56 PM EDT] <the_Bee> And we wouldn't want an insane KK.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:12:05 PM EDT] <Derynifank> absolutely not
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:12:33 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, the couple who live next door to my parents have a service that handles their lawn (they're ~10 years older than my parents), but I don't think my stepdad wants to hire it out; I think he'd rather sell it and move to a smaller place where he CAN handle the yard work, because he likes doing it.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:12:58 PM EDT] <Derynifank> I'm not ready to move yet but am already trying to downsize and get rid of stuff
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:13:15 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And no, we don't want KK to lose her mind.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:13:53 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Her mind is much too valuable to lose
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:13:59 PM EDT] <KK> I'd actually started culling and passing things on to folk who might appreciate them.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:14:03 PM EDT] <the_Bee> A crazy KK might turn out some interesting stories. Weird but interesting.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:14:08 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, and losing your mind is not a fun experience.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:14:09 PM EDT] <KK> In the past year or two.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:14:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And then Life decided you needed to cull more seriously. :(
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:14:39 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Life will do that to you
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:14:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Indeed
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:15:02 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, and getting Scott to do any of that was a lost cause. He was a serious collector of many things.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:15:27 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My stepdad is like that, and disorganized to boot. Sometimes I wonder how my mom hasn't lost HER mind yet.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:16:17 PM EDT] <Derynifank> My DDH is like that too. We have had some battles over it. He's a collector and I'm a thrower outer.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:16:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She made him shred a bunch of stuff a couple of years ago because he still had tax records older than the Pod-Child.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:16:27 PM EDT] <bynw> i have a co worker who's wife is a collector of many things ... he sells her stuff on facebook marketplace all the time
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:16:38 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I mean, I see the wisdom of keeping seven to ten years of back tax records, but two decades is a bit much.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:16:56 PM EDT] <bynw> yeah 10 years back is generally the most you will ever need on tax records
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yup
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:11 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, I've got stacks of Mother's old tax records to be shredded, that go back to the 90's.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:19 PM EDT] <Derynifank> actually I was told 3-5 years for old tax records.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:30 PM EDT] <KK> I'd heard 7.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:46 PM EDT] Join judyward (judyward@OWIRCN-cdcc182c.res.rr.com) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:51 PM EDT] <KK> Thouigh I'[d always keep actual copies of the returns.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:56 PM EDT] <bynw> i always heard it was 7-10
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:17:58 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Hi judyward
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:18:14 PM EDT] <judyward> HI, everyone! I thought I'd missed it all today.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:18:21 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Do you suppose the IRS has a guideline somewhere
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:18:23 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I used to feel that the day after threw something out would be the day I needed it.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:19:02 PM EDT] <judyward> I'm terrible about keeping things for that reason. Afraid i'd need it again.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:19:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hey judyward
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:19:23 PM EDT] <bynw> i've digitized a bunch of old stuff too
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:19:30 PM EDT] <judyward> Hi, DR!!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:19:40 PM EDT] <the_Bee> DFK, the IRS probably does have a guideline, but I don't know what it is.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:19:41 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ten years is a gracious plenty.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:19:52 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Hi JudyWard
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:20:07 PM EDT] <judyward> HI, Bee!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:23:02 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Suddenly got very quiet. I didn't get disconnected did I/
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:23:03 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I just went and looked on the IRS website and my search-term fu is failing me, but seven to ten years was the old conventional wisdom in terms of how long to keep tax records.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:23:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Nope, you're still here, Derynifank
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:23:21 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Thanks
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:23:41 PM EDT] <judyward> Everyone silenced at once.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:24:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> So ten years' worth of back tax records ought to be a gracious plenty.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:24:32 PM EDT] <judyward> 10 years should be plenty.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:25:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And I'm pretty sure everyone knows this, but the IRS will not call you and demand information or payment from you.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:25:30 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If they want something from you, they will send a letter in the postal mail, and it will be very formal but not threatening.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:25:48 PM EDT] <KK> Neither will Social Security, though I got a call from their "agent" this past week. All scams.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:26:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Source: Everyone in my family of my parents' generation works or retired from working for the federal government. The government likes a paper trail; they will send letters when there's a problem.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:26:26 PM EDT] <bynw> or the police or any other government agency ... at any level.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:26:33 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Too many of my phone calls are hangups or scams.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:27:21 PM EDT] <the_Bee> If I get a hangup I block the number.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:27:36 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yes, Social Security too. I had a thing to handle with SSA a few years ago, relating to the identity theft thing, and the only calling was from me to them, and I had to go twice to their office to turn over paperwork (technically I could have mailed it but I was a little paranoid at that point about making sure things got where they were supposed to go).
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:28:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I don't even answer if I don't recognize the number. If the caller has legitimate reason to call, they'll leave a message.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:28:47 PM EDT] <KK> I've started blocking all numbers that turn out to be scams. They only get through once, then they're toast.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:29:20 PM EDT] <judyward> I do that, too. Of course they go use a new phone # then.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:29:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> But yeah, any governmental agency is going to send you postal mail; they're not going to call, or at least not cold-call you. If they call, you'll expect it because the situation will be that you're already working on sorting something.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:29:29 PM EDT] <bynw> they spoof numbers too
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:29:32 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I've been gettingsome weirdstuff. The phone rings, I answer, and a voice says "Goodbye."
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:29:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, I block any numbers that call and don't leave a message or call and leave a nonsense/marketing/scam message.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:29:58 PM EDT] <bynw> i just dont answer my phone from unknown numbers
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:30:06 PM EDT] <judyward> They do the same thing by email. Says it's from someone you know, but the addy isn
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:30:07 PM EDT] <Derynifank> That is reallly weird
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:30:13 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I'm learning.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:30:15 PM EDT] <judyward> isn't right;
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:30:38 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I've gotten some of those emails, Judy.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:31:03 PM EDT] <bynw> the nigerian prince didnt leave you a lot of money
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:31:11 PM EDT] <judyward> Watching something on SyFy about a machine called Oddball. Anyone hear of it before?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:31:23 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Also, there are a number of smartphone apps out there for screening phone calls. I like Should I Answer, which crowd-sources reviews of callers and will block a call if enough people have labeled it spam or scam, but it'll let you know that the caller tried to call you.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:31:40 PM EDT] <the_Bee> The problem with Goodbye calls is, when I try to block the number, I'm told the number in invalid.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:31:52 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Just don't answer, Bee.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:32:10 PM EDT] <judyward> I used to get emails from rich people in Africa who wanted me to help them get their millions.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:32:41 PM EDT] Join Shiral (uid327538@OWIRCN-c7444ab5.irccloud.com) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:32:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Seriously. If you don't recognize the number, don't answer. If it's someone who has a good reason to call (say, a doctor's office or Melantha's vet calling from an alternate line, i.e. not their main phone number), they'll leave a message.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:32:47 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Shiral
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:32:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:32:51 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hello all
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:32:53 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:33:02 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I know that now, DR. If I get a call with only nine digits, i know it's a fake.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:33:10 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Hi Shiral!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:33:11 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yup
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:33:24 PM EDT] <judyward> Hi, Shiral
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:33:40 PM EDT] <bynw> thats my thought too DesertRose ... if its important and someone i do want to talk to they will leave a message and if its a scammer or telemarketer or something they generally wont
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:33:50 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And I've taken to my mother's philosophy on phones; the phone is for my convenience, not anyone else's, and I am not obligated to answer every single call.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:33:51 PM EDT] <Shiral> Rhemuth Castle discord sounds a little like everyone is arguing. =o)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:34:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:34:27 PM EDT] <the_Bee> just complaining about scams and spams.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:34:29 PM EDT] <judyward> Can anyone go on Discord?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:34:41 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yup
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:34:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> discordapp.com
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:34:57 PM EDT] <bynw> yes the discord chat is open to everyone and is linked to this chat with the bot Eris
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:34:58 PM EDT] <Shiral> I know, I hate junk mail phone calls. They always seem to know when I'm painting or napping
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:35:04 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I wnet there but didn't stay.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:35:15 PM EDT] * Shiral snaps fingers and sets out a plate of cream puffs
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:35:20 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, yes!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:35:33 PM EDT] * DesertRose sets slices of banana bread on the tea table.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:35:42 PM EDT] * Shiral adds the magic tea pot with everyone's favorite tea
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:35:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I baked banana bread for a potluck on Friday evening, and silly me, I thought I'd have leftovers. Nope!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:35:50 PM EDT] * the_Bee sets out iced tea and iced coffee.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:36:04 PM EDT] <bynw> and the invite for the Rhemuth Castle discord is https://discord.gg/dtafukT
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:36:11 PM EDT] <judyward> Judy contributes a few jars of blackberry jam from Monument Cafe in Georgetown,TX
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:36:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I was even able to make it pretty with the rows of sliced bananas on the top, which I usually don't do.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:36:30 PM EDT] <judyward> Do you have to be invited?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:36:47 PM EDT] <Shiral> MMm, sounds good, Judyward! I love almost anything with blackberries
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:36:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> You have to follow the invite link (bynw just posted it) to get onto any given server, yes.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:37:01 PM EDT] <judyward> OK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:37:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <bynw> yes every discord server has its own invite link, just like the IRC chat has its own connection information
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:37:31 PM EDT] <judyward> Shiral, they make their own blackberry, strawberry and peach jam.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:37:59 PM EDT] * DesertRose goes looking for a napkin at the prospect of fresh blackberry, strawberry, and peach jams.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:38:01 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yum!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:38:17 PM EDT] <Shiral> There was a little hamburger place near campus while I was in college. They had blackberry shakes to die for
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:38:30 PM EDT] <the_Bee> When I'm done here, I usually don't want to do any more chatting.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:38:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ooh, that sounds yummy, too!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:38:32 PM EDT] <judyward> Ohhh, that sounds soooo goood!!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:38:51 PM EDT] <Shiral> They were
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:39:03 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Wish I could have one. I'm a sucker for blackberries
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:39:07 PM EDT] <bynw> internet chatting is life :) but then i'm an internet chat junkie
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:39:07 PM EDT] <Shiral> Oregon has some pretty darn good blackberries of their own
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:39:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My maternal grandmother and I used to go pick blackberries; she knew the tricks for getting minimal scratches from the brambles.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:39:28 PM EDT] <the_Bee> I'm moreinto chocolate and mint than fruity stuff.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:39:51 PM EDT] <Shiral> Chocolate and mint is never a bad combination
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:40:00 PM EDT] <the_Bee> We used to pick blueberries in the woods behind our house.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:40:13 PM EDT] <Derynifank> My grandmother had a huge blackberry patch close toher house. The berries were huge
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:40:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The last time I remember us going, we actually picked enough blackberries for me to bake a pie (AFTER we'd eaten as we picked, of course). :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:40:33 PM EDT] <judyward> We picked them as kids, and probably ate as many as we picked.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:40:51 PM EDT] <bynw> what's the point of picking them if you arent going to eat them right there and then
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:40:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That's half the fun of berry-picking, snacking as you go.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, pie, bynw. :P
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:10 PM EDT] <judyward> Putting them in COBBLER
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:11 PM EDT] <Shiral> One summer we were coming back from a trip to Idaho, and we picked a big basket of blackberries. We all had purple tongues and fingers and the car smelled like a blackberry by the time we got home.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:14 PM EDT] <the_Bee> or muffins
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:14 PM EDT] <Laurna> I made it in. had to restart my computer twice
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That too.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:22 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Laurna!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:28 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hello Everyone Happy Sunday
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:33 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Hi Laurna
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:34 PM EDT] <Shiral> You had me right at cobbler, Judy. Or blackberry pie
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:38 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hi Laurna
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:38 PM EDT] <judyward> Hi, Laurna
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I think I even still have the recipe for the fresh-blackberry pie.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:47 PM EDT] <judyward> Oh, yes!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:52 PM EDT] <Shiral> Add vanilla ice cream and there's just nothing better
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:52 PM EDT] <Derynifank> I had an aunt who promised us kids she would make us blackberry cobbler if we picked the berries. I think she regretted that promise
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:41:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:42:12 PM EDT] <Laurna> Pie? Cobbler and balckbery Pie? I am in for a bit of both
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:42:14 PM EDT] <Shiral> My mother used to make berry cobbler for Fourth of July
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:42:15 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Hi Laurna
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:42:36 PM EDT] <the_Bee> when I was a child, if Mom said we were having "poison" for dessert, we knew it was a favorite.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:42:40 PM EDT] <Laurna> Or both as one, YUM
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:42:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I made a fresh-peach cobbler for 4th of July a couple of years ago. It was really easy; the worst part was peeling and slicing the peaches, and that wasn't so much difficult as time-consuming.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:43:13 PM EDT] <the_Bee> cherry cobbler with hard sauce.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:43:28 PM EDT] <judyward> That sounds good, Bee
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:43:36 PM EDT] <the_Bee> It was.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:43:45 PM EDT] <Laurna> fresh fruit cobbler is perfect for summer
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[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:43:55 PM EDT] <Shiral> Omigosh, yes
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:43:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Sounds like my stepdad with any dessert: "This is bad, you'd better not eat any!"
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:43:59 PM EDT] <judyward> I used to have a really easy recipe for cobbler but can't remember it now.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> KK's recipe is on the forum. :)
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[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Rehi bynw
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:24 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hello again, Bynw
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:30 PM EDT] <judyward> HI again,, Bynw
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:31 PM EDT] <Shiral> KK's recipe for?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:31 PM EDT] <Derynifank> rehi bynw
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Peach cobbler
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Or other-fruit cobbler.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:44:43 PM EDT] <judyward> I'll have to look it up
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[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:02 PM EDT] <Laurna> Is KK with us today. I have been meaning to ask her a Codex question for a month.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:15 PM EDT] <DesertRose> http://www.rhemuthcastle.com/index.php?topic=1978.0
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:19 PM EDT] <the_Bee> KK is here.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:29 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yup, although she hasn't said anything in a bit.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:45 PM EDT] <KK> I'm here.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:51 PM EDT] <judyward> Maybe she's making peach cobbler
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:56 PM EDT] <Shiral> I remember reading a New Yorker article about pies all over the us. It ended with the author getting a ticket in Arizona, and she asked the officer if he knew places with good pie. "Sorry Ma'am," the cop said "You're in cobbler country, now."
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:45:58 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Laurna
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:46:03 PM EDT] <judyward> Oh, well, no cobbler
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:46:22 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hi Bynw
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:46:47 PM EDT] <KK> I actually prefer cobbler to pies, at least fruit ones.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:47:01 PM EDT] <judyward> Me, too
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:47:03 PM EDT] <Laurna> Ok so we all know Alarics haroldry is stated as this: "sable, a gryphon segreant vert within a double tressure flory-counter-flory or" Codex Alaric
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:47:29 PM EDT] <the_Bee> who is Harold?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:47:36 PM EDT] <Shiral> I grew up eating my mother's apple pie which to me is the benchmark by which I judge all other apple pies. It quite simply is what an apple pie SHOULD taste like, to me.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:47:38 PM EDT] <judyward> Well, maybe except for Mississippi Mud Pie
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:47:41 PM EDT] <Derynifank> heraldry
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:47:43 PM EDT] <Laurna> So I was looking up the House of Morgan, I presume what is listed is Kenneth's
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:48:02 PM EDT] <Laurna> House of Morgan is said to be "sable, a double treasure or, argent flory" Codex House of Morgan
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:48:11 PM EDT] <Shiral> you've never heard of Harold the Herald?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:48:32 PM EDT] <judyward> Who used heraldry
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:48:46 PM EDT] <Laurna> Interesting to note is that it is Argent flory and not "or flory counter flory." is this correct
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:00 PM EDT] <the_Bee> any relation to sir Night the Knight?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:13 PM EDT] <Derynifank> thought it was fleury but not sure
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:15 PM EDT] <Shiral> distant cousins I believe
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:19 PM EDT] <Laurna> Sorry my rabid spelling is attrocious
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:33 PM EDT] <the_Bee> What does flory mean, anyway?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:36 PM EDT] <Evie> It would be flory
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:42 PM EDT] <judyward> Flower like?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:51 PM EDT] <Shiral> Rabid spelling is a sign you should rent fingers elsewhere
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:49:58 PM EDT] <Derynifank> think fleury related to lilies
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:50:00 PM EDT] <KK> Never noticed that, Laurna. I think the difference came when Alaric tried to combine elements of his father's and mother's arms.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:50:21 PM EDT] <Evie> Flory counterflory bordure would be like a border that has fleur-de-lys style elements projectng on either side of a border
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:50:34 PM EDT] <Evie> Hard to describe without a picture to refer to
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:50:39 PM EDT] <the_Bee> any pics?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:50:43 PM EDT] <Derynifank> is it fleury or flory?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:50:46 PM EDT] <Laurna> So if Kenneth's is a single flory in silver with the two double lines * Double tressure* would that be correct or is is still a flory counter flory?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:51:12 PM EDT] <Shiral> Sounds more like chess than heraldry
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:51:14 PM EDT] <judyward> "
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:51:21 PM EDT] <judyward> BRB
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:52:11 PM EDT] <Laurna> I am just wondering about it and I have thought about if for a month
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:52:39 PM EDT] <Evie> Similar to this, though I don't remember it being a double tressure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orle_(heraldry)#/media/File:Double_Tressure_flory-counter-flory_demo.svg
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:52:40 PM EDT] <KK> The double tressure flory counter flory is what's on the arms of Scotland. I'll have to look at those Codex entries. Rob may have played fast and loose with the heraldry.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:53:17 PM EDT] <Evie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orle_(heraldry)#/media/File:Double_Tressure_flory-counter-flory_demo.svg
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:53:46 PM EDT] <Evie> Similar to that, except that I don't recall Alaric's arms having the double tressure
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:54:37 PM EDT] <the_Bee> double tressure=double lines?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:54:42 PM EDT] <Evie> yes
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:54:47 PM EDT] <Laurna> Ah that would make since. I noted that in england theDouble Tressure with the flory counter flory was a royal arms. So I thought maybe Kenneth had earned that distinction in his life time. therefore the difference
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:55:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And yes, "flory" has the same linguistic roots as "flower" or "fleur." Fleurs de lis/lys are pretty common in heraldry, particularly of France or various people who claimed the throne thereof. :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:55:53 PM EDT] <Shiral> Tati has arrived to purr her hello to you all
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:09 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hello Tati
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:20 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Tati! *offers a gentle scritch*
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:27 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Hi Tati, scritches to you
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:32 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Tati.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys is half-napping on the back of the armchair next to me.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:49 PM EDT] <KK> Gus is purring on my lap.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She's not REALLY asleep, but she isn't really awake either.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:56:55 PM EDT] * the_Bee scritches Tati.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:57:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Gus! *offers a scritch to Gus too*
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:57:54 PM EDT] <Shiral> She's pleased to greet you all. although she expresses this with her little claws in my knee
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:58:00 PM EDT] <judyward> I thought it was double flory/counter flory? I could be wrong.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:58:09 PM EDT] <Shiral> And sends a polite headbutt to Gus
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:58:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Sharp little paw-nails.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:58:27 PM EDT] <Shiral> And another to Carys
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:58:33 PM EDT] <Shiral> Ouch, yes
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:59:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It seems like KK's Gus is a purry fellow.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:59:09 PM EDT] <judyward> Sorry, that was the other thread. Hi, kitties!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:59:38 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys also purrs a lot, and Layla the Holy Terror of a Not-Really-Kitten-Anymore purrs if she thinks you're thinking of petting her.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [7:59:58 PM EDT] <KK> Tee-hee.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:00:19 PM EDT] <Shiral> Tati likes to do figure 8s around my feet and my chair when I'm seated at my desk
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:00:23 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Layla also likes to be rocked when being held.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:00:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys pretty much has to be no more than five feet from me if I'm home and awake.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:00:54 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Remember Wrengl's Dora the Adorable Explorer?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:01:00 PM EDT] <judyward> She loves her Mama
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:01:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Which is adorable but can be annoying when I'm, say, sewing. :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:01:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She does.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:02:06 PM EDT] <Laurna> Puppies are too hot so they are not at my feet but are lying of the kitchen floor where it is cooler
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:02:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Her full name is Carys Elen [My Surname]; both of her given names are Welsh, Carys meaning "love" and Elen meaning "light." :)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:02:34 PM EDT] <KK> Trying to read on my phone in bed can be a challenge, because Gus tries to nibble my knuckles and rings.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:02:38 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:03:05 PM EDT] <judyward> That's because you SHOULD be petting him.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:03:15 PM EDT] <Shiral> Dmitri likes to rub against my hand when I'm reading the morning paper
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:03:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys likes to park herself on my desk between the keyboard tray and the monitor when she wants me to stop messing with the computer and pay attention to her. :)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:03:18 PM EDT] <Laurna> Gus is like" Mom why aren't you petting me"
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:03:21 PM EDT] <KK> I remember Wrengl's Dora. Miss Wrengl.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:03:33 PM EDT] <the_Bee> me too
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:04:11 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I wish I'd known Wrengl. From what people say of her, she sounds like she was a lovely person, but I didn't find the chatroom until right after she had died.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:04:29 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Melantha washes my face while I'm trying to sleep.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:04:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> "You need a bath, Mama. Melantha will fix." :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:04:52 PM EDT] <Shiral> Miss Kim/Sedina, too
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:04:53 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Well you wouldn't want to sleep with a dirty face
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:04:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys licks the water off my feet and ankles when I get out of the shower/bath.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:05:06 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I tell her she's helping me dry off.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:05:21 PM EDT] <judyward> Mommy-flavored water.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:05:30 PM EDT] <the_Bee> She likes to lick my lips.. Does that mean I have a dirty mouth?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:05:35 PM EDT] * bynw misses a lot of them. especially Susan :(
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:05:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Probably more like, "Mama washed off the Carys-flavor, so Carys must replace." :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:05:53 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Might mean she likes whatever you last ate, Bee. :)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:05:59 PM EDT] <KK> We've sadly lost a fair number, over the years.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:06:13 PM EDT] <bynw> yes we have
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:06:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Alas, yes.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:06:22 PM EDT] <judyward> I wish I'd found the chat sooner
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:06:52 PM EDT] <judyward> But you lot are pretty darn good
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:06:52 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, we're glad you found us. :)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:06:55 PM EDT] <bynw> forever remembered here: http://otherworlders.org/our-community/memorial-wall/
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:07:17 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Wrengls was a very strong-minded woman. After 9/11 she and her roomie made cookies for the police and firefighters.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:07:19 PM EDT] <judyward> Good to have a place to remember them
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:07:22 PM EDT] <bynw> not all of them on that page are for this particular chat room
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:07:27 PM EDT] <judyward> Thanks, DR
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:07:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm sure the emergency personnel appreciated that.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:08:20 PM EDT] <judyward> That was a great thing to do. They needed it.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:08:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> After my stepdad had his, "No, actually, at age 65 you should not be climbing trees"-related ambulance ride, Mom made a batch of rum balls and took them down to the fire-rescue station as a thank-you.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:08:49 PM EDT] <judyward> Yum! Rum balls!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:08:49 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)).
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:08:50 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The crowd at the station plowed through those!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:01 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:06 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Oops, list kk
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Rehi KK!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:10 PM EDT] <judyward> Re=hi, KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:16 PM EDT] <Laurna> WB KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:18 PM EDT] <the_Bee> WB KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:25 PM EDT] <KK> Whoops. Took a look at the meorial page, then clicked out of the wrong screen.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:34 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hello again, KK. Careful of that revolving door, it can surprise you. =o)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:34 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It happens, like typos. :)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:42 PM EDT] <bynw> wb KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:09:51 PM EDT] <bynw> probably have to right click and open in new window or tab
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:10:03 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I was starting to say something about "Oops, we lost KK! I hope it's just a computer glitch" when you came back.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:10:19 PM EDT] <Shiral> Who knows what I'd tell you if you supplied me with rum balls?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:10:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The firefighters and EMS personnel told my mom, "Thank YOU, ma'am!" :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:10:44 PM EDT] <judyward> LOL, Shiral! Probably make stuff up to tell.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:10:53 PM EDT] <Laurna> I might be in trouble with those too.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:10:53 PM EDT] <the_Bee> We know you wouldn't leave without saying goodbye, KK.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:10:59 PM EDT] <Shiral> But I'm glad your stepfather learned that lesson at 65 rather than 85, DR
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:00 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Spies waste theri time with drugs, just use rum balls to get them to talk
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:18 PM EDT] <DesertRose> True.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:27 PM EDT] <Shiral> I don't know what I'd say, because it's sadly never happened
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And the Pod-Child and her best friend have taken cookies to the fire station crews around Christmas for a few years, too.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:45 PM EDT] <KK> Meanwhile, I was trolling through the TV and came upon Fargo, in the middle. Had forgotten what a great film it is. And the theme music is now my earwig. Has been all day.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:46 PM EDT] <Shiral> Good thing I don't have anything in the way of top security clearance, though. =o)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:55 PM EDT] <judyward> Shiral needs a shower of rum balls
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:11:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Food is almost always welcome. :)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:12:11 PM EDT] <bynw> Kim hated that movie
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:12:13 PM EDT] <Laurna> I have not seen Fargo
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:12:17 PM EDT] <Shiral> I think it would be hard to rig my shower that way, Judy Ward. What would I say to the plumber?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:12:33 PM EDT] <judyward> I haven't seen it, either.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:12:46 PM EDT] <KK> Why, Bynw?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:12:54 PM EDT] <bynw> its a good flick ... watch it if you havent
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:13:02 PM EDT] <judyward> I don't know: "hi, handsome?"
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:13:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Honestly, he lucked out big time; he broke his glasses and wound up having to have rotator-cuff repair surgery, but at his age with diabetes and fibromyalgia and Crohn's disease, it could have been MUCH worse.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:13:17 PM EDT] <bynw> because she thought it made of fun of North Dakota and she was from there
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:14:27 PM EDT] <KK> I don't think it made fun of North Dakota. I thought that part was charmin;g. The Coen broters are brilliant.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:14:29 PM EDT] <Laurna> One has to laugh at your home town once in a while. I say
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:14:32 PM EDT] <judyward> I knew Lou's knee was really bad when he agreed to let the ambulance come get him
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:14:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I can see her point. Sometimes a joke lands better if it's coming from the in-group, like Mel Brooks and the Jewish jokes that wouldn't be nearly as funny or funny at all if Brooks weren't Jewish himself.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:15:00 PM EDT] <judyward> My Dad hated the musical Lil Abner.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:15:30 PM EDT] <Laurna> In Bill and teds Adventure, the first film. the circle K they filmed at was just around the corner from my college appartement. we allways laughed about that.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:15:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That being said, except for the part that grossed me out, I did like "Fargo."
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:00 PM EDT] <judyward> Oh, it has a gross part?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:01 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, that's GREAT, Laurna!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah. I won't say what it is but it's a bit gory, and I don't do gore.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:23 PM EDT] <the_Bee> My sister and I watched them filming a scene once. II forget the movie.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:29 PM EDT] <KK> Well, disposing of the body in the chipper was kind of gross.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:29 PM EDT] <bynw> here's an old picture ... http://bynw.otherworlders.org/images/tikawed/chat3.jpg
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:41 PM EDT] <Laurna> OWE!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:16:46 PM EDT] <judyward> Oh, yes, that is pretty gross
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:17:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The movie "The Patriot" was filmed in part on the campus of my alma mater, while I was a student. I remember seeing people in 18th C. clothes going for coffee or whatever around campus, and we were so blase, like, "Oh, someone's filming in Randolph Hall again, ho-hum." :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:17:37 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Is that Jasta in the middle with a cross?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:17:38 PM EDT] <Laurna> I got to be an extra in a made for TV movie once.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:17:47 PM EDT] <bynw> yes Bee
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:18:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> In retrospect, I wish I'd gotten a chance to get Heath Ledger's autograph; that was before he was all that famous, and I enjoyed his work.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:18:49 PM EDT] <bynw> and if my memory is right Shiral is to the left as you look at that picture from Jasta and one row back
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:18:51 PM EDT] <judyward> We were extra's in the Susan Dey movie where she killed her husband.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:19:13 PM EDT] <bynw> in something purple
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:19:17 PM EDT] <Laurna> It was a Murder she Wrote movie. where they went back intime to tell about a murder from the civil war. I got to be in two scenes with Angela Landsbury
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:19:38 PM EDT] <Shiral> Yup, I was wearing purple
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:19:48 PM EDT] <judyward> Oh, wow! Angela Landsbury! Loved her!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:19:52 PM EDT] <Laurna> Cool Shiral
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:19:58 PM EDT] <KK> Am I back? That was weird.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yup, you're still here, KK.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:10 PM EDT] <bynw> you are here, didnt see you leave either
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:22 PM EDT] <Shiral> Well, I think I look a bit like an eggplant, but thanks.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:31 PM EDT] <bynw> but you probably missed me posting this link here's an old picture ... http://bynw.otherworlders.org/images/tikawed/chat3.jpg
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:43 PM EDT] <the_Bee> and Wrengl beside Jasta?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:46 PM EDT] <Laurna> I wore a purple gown in that movie
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL, one of my friends used to tell me I looked like a chili pepper in my (red) choir robe.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:20:54 PM EDT] <Derynifank> That is cool laurna
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:21:00 PM EDT] <bynw> Bee, yes Wrengl is the the right of Jasta
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:21:09 PM EDT] <Derynifank> I loved that show and I remeber that movie
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:21:12 PM EDT] <judyward> Nice picture!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:21:20 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I was the tallest soprano by quite a bit, so I stood out.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:21:26 PM EDT] <Shiral> It was supposed to be a light central planel with dark side panels, but the costume-sewer got it wrong.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:21:34 PM EDT] <bynw> with Susie next to Wrengl and Kim behind both Wrengl and Susie
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:21:43 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Susie with the coronet
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:22:25 PM EDT] <bynw> yes
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:23:11 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And KK down front, to the left of Bynw as you're looking at the photo.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:23:13 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Who's the young guy with glasses beside KK?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:23:18 PM EDT] <bynw> me
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:23:31 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Hi You!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:23:39 PM EDT] <Laurna> found a picture https://www.pinterest.com/pin/457185799647229287/
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:24:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ooh, pretty, Laurna! Did you sew that one?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:24:20 PM EDT] <Laurna> Yes
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:24:21 PM EDT] <judyward> That IS pretty!!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:24:31 PM EDT] <bynw> and duck is behind and between Jasta and Wrengl
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:24:31 PM EDT] <Laurna> Bynw love the photo of the gang
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:24:53 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Good job! I probably need to get with you about sewing silk at some point. I have a project in mind, and I have the fabric, but I'm a bit scared to sew silk, LOL!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:25:17 PM EDT] <judyward> It's too slidy.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:25:41 PM EDT] <the_Bee> You all look so much younger!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:25:53 PM EDT] <bynw> we were so much younger then
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:26:01 PM EDT] <judyward> HOw long ago is that picture?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:26:05 PM EDT] <bynw> that was 18 years ago
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:26:11 PM EDT] <judyward> Wow.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:26:24 PM EDT] <Shiral> So...yeah, we all have a few more miles on our collective odometers
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:26:35 PM EDT] <Laurna> Silk is less slidy to work with than polyester and Rayon, should be easier to work with.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:27:18 PM EDT] <Shiral> YOu are a very skilled seamstress, Laurna
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:27:26 PM EDT] <Laurna> Shiral for some reason the odometer seems to go faster now, Wish it would slow down
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:27:43 PM EDT] <Shiral> I know, I know!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:27:50 PM EDT] <judyward> Yes, time moves much too fast now.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:28:51 PM EDT] <bynw> hmmm well Laurna that statement popped a song into my head
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:17 PM EDT] <judyward> If I could save time in a bottle?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:18 PM EDT] <Laurna> what song Bynw
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:23 PM EDT] <bynw> (Time stand still)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:23 PM EDT] <bynw> I'm not looking back
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:23 PM EDT] <bynw> But I want to look around me now
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:23 PM EDT] <bynw> (Time stand still)
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:23 PM EDT] <bynw> See more of the people and the places that surround me now
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:24 PM EDT] <KK> Laurna, thouse are stunning!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:24 PM EDT] <bynw> Time stand still
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:25 PM EDT] <Laurna> LOL
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:26 PM EDT] <bynw> Freeze this moment a little bit longer
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:27 PM EDT] <judyward> Or Turn Back Time
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:28 PM EDT] <bynw> Make each sensation a little bit stronger
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:30 PM EDT] <bynw> Experience slips away
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:32 PM EDT] <bynw> Experience slips away
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:33 PM EDT] <Laurna> Thanks Kk
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:34 PM EDT] <bynw> Time stand still
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:35 PM EDT] <Laurna> KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:29:38 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, I'm used to sewing cotton and linen, Laurna. :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:30:01 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And the fabric is silk satin, so it's going to be pretty dang slippery! :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:30:25 PM EDT] <Laurna> Silk is just a little tricker, simply because it does not stretch. So don't sew anything too tight.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:30:56 PM EDT] <Laurna> Cotton and linnen will stretch to form around the body. Silk will not so you just have to be carefull of the cutting and sewing lines
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:06 PM EDT] <judyward> Oh, I had my left cataract surgery & results are goood. Almost forgot to tell you.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:08 PM EDT] <Derynifank> My DD just came in so will sign off for tonight. Hope everyone has a good week. Early chat ext week?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Good advice, thanks! The bodice particularly is supposed to be fairly fitted.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, good, judyward!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:21 PM EDT] <Shiral> Good, Judy Ward!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:21 PM EDT] <the_Bee> "Backward, turn Backward, O time in thye Flight/
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:25 PM EDT] <Laurna> That is wonderfull Judyward
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> KK, early chat next week!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:30 PM EDT] <DesertRose> ?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:40 PM EDT] <judyward> Thought I;d better gtell now before I forgot. Not to change topic,
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:31:46 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Good for you Judyward
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:01 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hope the second one goes well, too
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> When are you due to have the right eye done, judyward?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:12 PM EDT] <judyward> The 9th
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, so you've got a little over a week to go, then.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:30 PM EDT] <KK> Gak, DR> I'll be at the Michaeline retreat next week. So early chat will have to be the week after.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:41 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Good luck with eye#2
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:45 PM EDT] <judyward> Yep. Is next Sunday early chat?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Mom said the eye drop routine was a bother, but that was the biggest problem she had with the cataract surgery.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:48 PM EDT] <Laurna> Enjoy your retrear, KK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:52 PM EDT] <judyward> Thanks DFK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:32:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, cool, KK, I'll note that on the forum then.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:01 PM EDT] <Shiral> Have fun being Michaelines!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:01 PM EDT] <judyward> KK going to retreat?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:12 PM EDT] <Evie> Michaeline retreat
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Early chat the 14th.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:22 PM EDT] <judyward> Oh, Michaeline retreat?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:33 PM EDT] <bynw> one of these years i'll have to make it there. maybe next year ... who knows
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:40 PM EDT] <judyward> 14th. OK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:46 PM EDT] <judyward> Where is it?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:49 PM EDT] <Laurna> Like you said earlier, Shiral in need to find another place to buy rented fingers'
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:33:56 PM EDT] <Evie> That's good, I was worried I'd have to miss next week's chat altogether anyway, since I have a training on how to use the new defibrillator at church that day.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:05 PM EDT] <Evie> On the 7th, I mean
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Good information to have, Evie, although I hope you never need it.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:17 PM EDT] <Evie> Me too
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:17 PM EDT] <judyward> That's a good thing to know.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:21 PM EDT] <bynw> yeah no kidding
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:39 PM EDT] <Shiral> In case the congregation needs defibrillation
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:45 PM EDT] <bynw> only use it on practice dummies
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:46 PM EDT] <KK> So, you've had the first one, judyward? Or is this the first one coming up?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:34:52 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Actually they are really easy to use. Just turn it on and do what it says
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:02 PM EDT] <Evie> Well, hopefully not all at once. My priest's sermons are better than that, I promise!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It's like CPR; you hope you never need to know how, but when you need to know, it's good that someone knows!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:11 PM EDT] <judyward> No, had the first on last Tues.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:13 PM EDT] <Shiral> LOL, I hope so
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:21 PM EDT] <Laurna> Evie, Good to know
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:34 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys says Hi.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:47 PM EDT] <judyward> Hi, Carys
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:52 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She's looking out the window because the pigeons and ravens haven't made their usual evening ruckus tonight.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:35:54 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hello Carys
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:03 PM EDT] Join jerusha (uid321239@OWIRCN-53280135.irccloud.com) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:04 PM EDT] <Derynifank> Well, saying goodnight again. Have a good week all
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:06 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi jerusha
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:07 PM EDT] <KK> Wasn't too bad, was it? Nice to be able to see properly with that eye, eh?
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:11 PM EDT] <the_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:11 PM EDT] <Shiral> Night, DFK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:14 PM EDT] <Laurna> Hello jerusha
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> G'night, Derynifank! Have a good week! Hope your DH continues to mend!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:21 PM EDT] <bynw> is she sitting on printer then i take it DR
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:23 PM EDT] <Evie> hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:23 PM EDT] <jerusha> Hi Sorry to be late
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:29 PM EDT] <bynw> night DFK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:31 PM EDT] <bynw> hi jerusha
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:32 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:33 PM EDT] <Laurna> Good night DFK see you in the story
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:34 PM EDT] <DesertRose> No, she was sitting on the left wing of my desk. Now she's on me.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:45 PM EDT] <judyward> KK, yes, after the discomfort the first day went on by. Lovely to see with out a lens of some kind!!
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:52 PM EDT] <jerusha> I read that as the printer was sitting on DR
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:36:57 PM EDT] <bynw> lol
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL, no, the cat. :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:06 PM EDT] <jerusha> Oh good
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She purrs at me and y'all.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:17 PM EDT] <Shiral> Sometimes a printer just wants a little love....
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:17 PM EDT] <the_Bee> FYI Jerusha--early chat July 14. KK's at Michaeline retreat on the 7th.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:23 PM EDT] * jerusha offers a scritch
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:25 PM EDT] <judyward> Night, DFK
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:31 PM EDT] <bynw> DR has posted pics of Carys sitting on the printer looking out the window before
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:35 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys leans into any and all offered scritches.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:37:37 PM EDT] <jerusha> OK, good to know
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She likes to sit on the printer because of the window and because she's less than three feet from me if I'm at my desk.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:10 PM EDT] <Shiral> I bought a cat tree with a nice top platform for cat naps. But they argue about who gets to sleep in it
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:13 PM EDT] <jerusha> Close is good
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys doesn't nap on her cat tree, but she loves the sisal-rope-covered scratching posts on it.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:39 PM EDT] <judyward> I bet she really likes it when it's warm.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:53 PM EDT] Join TheDeryni (~TheDeryni@Flirt.Storyteller.Wiseass) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:53 PM EDT] Mode derynibot gives channel operator privileges to TheDeryni.
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:38:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And the little toy that dangles from the top platform that moves because I set the cat tree near the AC unit. :D
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:39:01 PM EDT] <bynw> hi td
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:39:03 PM EDT] <Shiral> Hi TD
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:39:10 PM EDT] <jerusha> Hi TD
[Sunday, June 30, 2019] [8:39:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi TheDeryni!
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)