The Worlds of Katherine Kurtz

Katherine Kurtz and Scott MacMillan => Archived Chats => Chat Logs => 2016 Archive => Topic started by: DesertRose on December 18, 2016, 07:37:13 PM

Title: KK Chat -- 18 December 2016
Post by: DesertRose on December 18, 2016, 07:37:13 PM
Dec 18 19:08:34 *   KK has joined
Dec 18 19:08:39 <DesertRose>   Hi KK!
Dec 18 19:08:39 <Jerusha>   Hi KK
Dec 18 19:08:40 <BalanceTheEnergies>   My door wreath has wine-red and gold balls in clusters, a gold-edged wine-colored bow, and two gold keys.
Dec 18 19:08:45 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Hello KK
Dec 18 19:08:53 <Evie>   I think it's just to be decorated that way, Jerusha, not made permanently ugly
Dec 18 19:08:55 <DesertRose>   Not if you did it with tacky wrapping paper that you could easily take off after the holidays are over.
Dec 18 19:08:56 <Evie>   Hi KK!
Dec 18 19:08:58 <KK>   Well, Mibbit seems to like me ok this week.  Hello, all.
Dec 18 19:09:09 <DesertRose>   Yay! (She said cautiously)
Dec 18 19:09:15 <Jerusha>   One would hope not, Evie
Dec 18 19:09:33 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Yes Evie, that's the idea I think. I just read it in the building newsletter.
Dec 18 19:09:35 <DesertRose>   How was your week, KK?
Dec 18 19:09:46 <KK>   Two keys, BTE.  Are you a double seneschal?
Dec 18 19:09:55 <Evie>   Gigi seems to think I don't require a place to rest my wrists, so I am typing over her, but that's better than typing from underneath Luke
Dec 18 19:10:28 <BalanceTheEnergies>   No KK they represent the two brass keys from my old apartment.
Dec 18 19:10:30 <DesertRose>   Gigi's being halpful; she's your wrist-rest for today.
Dec 18 19:10:48 <BalanceTheEnergies>   I really loved that place.
Dec 18 19:11:01 <Evie>   Her idea of help is my idea of hindrance
Dec 18 19:11:08 <DesertRose>   Hence the spelling of "halpful."
Dec 18 19:11:22 <KK>   Are they old, cool keys, or modern Yales or the like?
Dec 18 19:11:24 <Jerusha>   Over the Gigi and through cyberspace, to KK's chat we go...
Dec 18 19:11:30 <DesertRose>   LOL, Jerusha
Dec 18 19:11:33 <Evie>   Like Incapussitated
Dec 18 19:11:37 <DesertRose>   Yup
Dec 18 19:11:46 <Evie>   :-D
Dec 18 19:11:46 *   The_Bee (Mibbit@OWIRCN-860d1fc1.ma.comcast.net) has joined
Dec 18 19:11:48 <DesertRose>   Hi Bee
Dec 18 19:11:50 <Jerusha>   Hi Bee
Dec 18 19:11:53 <Evie>   hi Bee
Dec 18 19:11:56 <KK>   Incapussitated.  I like it.
Dec 18 19:11:58 <The_Bee>   Hi all!
Dec 18 19:12:10 <KK>   Hi, Bee.
Dec 18 19:12:15 <BalanceTheEnergies>   They were modern, but very big. The owners installed levers instead of knobs in the old six-panel doors.
Dec 18 19:12:15 <DesertRose>   I can't remember where I found that word, but it's so useful when there are cats around.
Dec 18 19:12:22 <Jemler>   hi kk, bee
Dec 18 19:12:23 <The_Bee>   Hi KK
Dec 18 19:12:24 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Hello Bee
Dec 18 19:12:54 <KK>   Skeleton keys?
Dec 18 19:13:00 <BalanceTheEnergies>   The building was built circa 1905.
Dec 18 19:13:05 <DesertRose>   Incapussitation:  The state of being unable to get up because there is a cat on your lap.  :)
Dec 18 19:13:15 <BalanceTheEnergies>   No, one to the main entrance door and one to my flat.
Dec 18 19:13:24 <The_Bee>   That hapens to me a lot.
Dec 18 19:13:36 <DesertRose>   Me too.  Carys randomly decides that it's Lap Time.
Dec 18 19:13:38 <KK>   Ah, that explains a lot.  We have two doors with gigantic, 5-inch keys, though we also have modern locks.
Dec 18 19:14:20 <DesertRose>   She favors resting in the crook of my left arm for whatever reason.
Dec 18 19:14:24 <BalanceTheEnergies>   I now have an RF fob for the secured doors, a brass key for my flat door, and a small one for my mailbox.
Dec 18 19:14:38 <KK>   Incapussitation is also a valid excuse for not getting up to do whatever.  No, I can't go get you some ice cream.  I have a cat on my lap.
Dec 18 19:14:44 <DesertRose>   LOL, yes.
Dec 18 19:14:57 <Evie>   :-D
Dec 18 19:15:18 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Didn't someone once cut off the sleeve of his garment to avoid disturbing a sleeping cat?
Dec 18 19:15:31 <The_Bee>   Mohammed, the story goes
Dec 18 19:15:48 <Evie>   In our house, Luke would get dumped unceremoniously for ice cream. Gigi, on the other hand, gets to sit on a lap until both legs fall asleep, because she doesn't voluntarily visit laps anywhere near as often.
Dec 18 19:15:49 <DesertRose>   That's right, he was an ailurophile.
Dec 18 19:16:02 <Evie>   But when she does, you can bet it's right before you planned to get up to do something
Dec 18 19:16:07 <DesertRose>   Naturally.
Dec 18 19:16:18 <BalanceTheEnergies>   It's as if they know.
Dec 18 19:16:23 <Jerusha>   It's a law of nature
Dec 18 19:16:29 <KK>   A saving grace for the Prophet.
Dec 18 19:16:32 <DesertRose>   Carys is particularly good at jumping into my lap when I need to go to the bathroom.
Dec 18 19:16:36 <Jerusha>   Or maybe cature
Dec 18 19:16:46 *   DesertRose throws a catfish at Jerusha
Dec 18 19:17:03 <BalanceTheEnergies>   :)
Dec 18 19:17:19 <Evie>   Just before you got here, KK, I was working on miniature Harry Potter wands.
Dec 18 19:17:29 <Evie>   https://www.flickr.com/gp/9573389@N08/3sM78a  Mini-DD with her wand
Dec 18 19:17:36 <KK>   Ooooh!  Any pictures?
Dec 18 19:18:03 <KK>   Why, yes.  And a fine wand it is.
Dec 18 19:18:05 <Jerusha>   Mini DD has purple hair now?
Dec 18 19:18:08 <Evie>   https://www.flickr.com/gp/9573389@N08/7s2q45
Dec 18 19:18:15 <DesertRose>   BRB
Dec 18 19:18:16 <Jemler>   tonks?
Dec 18 19:18:29 <Jerusha>   Nice, Evie
Dec 18 19:18:41 <Evie>   When DD got me the doll for my birthday, she had lavender hair, so she saw that doll with her same hair color and length and decided that was Mini-DD.
Dec 18 19:18:42 <KK>   Used pins as the base?
Dec 18 19:18:54 <Evie>   But by the time she gave it to me, her hair was royal blue. LOL!
Dec 18 19:19:01 <Evie>   No, toothpicks and hot glue.
Dec 18 19:19:16 <KK>   Works for me--or for them.
Dec 18 19:19:35 <Evie>   https://www.flickr.com/gp/9573389@N08/b55A73
Dec 18 19:19:39 <Jemler>   Glue isn't that expensive. You don't have to steal it. :(
Dec 18 19:19:55 <Evie>   They're the kind of toothpicks that have one end that is flat-topped and has a bit of decorative carving.
Dec 18 19:19:59 <KK>   She's even wearing her Christmas sweater.
Dec 18 19:20:12 <Evie>   Though the carving is pretty much covered by the glue
Dec 18 19:20:16 <Evie>   :-P Jemler
Dec 18 19:20:26 <DesertRose>   :P
Dec 18 19:20:34 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Perhaps she's about to enchant the ice-skating penguin cake topper?
Dec 18 19:20:46 <KK>   Wow, lotsa wands.  You planning on having a wizard war?
Dec 18 19:20:51 <Jerusha>   Wanderful
Dec 18 19:21:18 <Evie>   Some of my friends and I were brainstorming props ideas for Mini-DD.  She needs a wallet for her Hot Topic gift card and bank card, for instance, but it only has $1 in cash since she spent it all.  :-D
Dec 18 19:21:36 <Jemler>   don't pick your teeth with one! you might pull one of them out!
Dec 18 19:21:52 <Evie>   The others are going to my colleagues at work, attached to a little card thanking them for all the magic they do throughout the year.  :-)
Dec 18 19:22:08 <Jerusha>   Very nice, Evie
Dec 18 19:22:15 <Evie>   (They're counselors, and this has been a very high-volume, high-stress term.)
Dec 18 19:22:48 <DesertRose>   There's a little Harry Potter ficlet about what might have happened if, during that bit in Transfiguration when they were changing the rats to teacups, Scabbers had been revealed as Peter Pettigrew, with McGonagall present.  It's richly hilarious.
Dec 18 19:22:51 <Jemler>   don't for to add a spell: Scaladoola Menchika Boola Bibbity Bopity Boo!
Dec 18 19:22:53 <KK>   What a great, unique gift.  They're lucky to have you.
Dec 18 19:22:55 <Jerusha>   More than normal?
Dec 18 19:23:04 <Evie>   But I made an extra wand for Mini-DD, since DD is a Harry Potter fan, and her jewel is blue because she's a Ravenclaw
Dec 18 19:23:47 <Evie>   Yes, a lot more than normal, Jerusha, despite the addition of three new staff.  :-(
Dec 18 19:24:20 <Jerusha>   They definitely deserve the cards of thanks, to say the least
Dec 18 19:24:52 <Evie>   It's a national trend, not just our campus, but students are increasingly low on resilience and coping skills, and so demand for our services has pretty much tripled in recent years
Dec 18 19:25:18 <The_Bee>   a regular spendthrift
Dec 18 19:25:18 <Jerusha>   Not a good trend
Dec 18 19:25:25 <DesertRose>   I don't know if it's low resilience as it is high stress.
Dec 18 19:25:32 <Evie>   It's both.
Dec 18 19:25:48 <Jemler>   wait a few weeks.
Dec 18 19:25:54 <DesertRose>   Well, high stress will do a number on your resilience for sure.
Dec 18 19:26:18 <DesertRose>   But today's uni students are pursuing a degree that's as likely to land them with years of debt as a well-paying career.
Dec 18 19:26:29 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Ugh! Don't remind me Jemler. It's taken a while to get my sleep pattern reestablished
Dec 18 19:26:34 <Evie>   We're past the worst of it for the moment.  Fall Term tends to be worst around October, though we expect numbers to spike again later in the Spring.
Dec 18 19:26:42 <DesertRose>   Unless they're from wealthy families, which isn't that many in the scheme of things.
Dec 18 19:27:05 <KK>   I think it's partly that kids aren't taught to think and cope in earlier school, and adults are too quick to bail them out whenever the least thing goes wrong.  And too protective.
Dec 18 19:27:28 <BalanceTheEnergies>   "Helicopter parenting"?
Dec 18 19:27:47 <DesertRose>   Partly, but I think the sheer number of stressors is up.
Dec 18 19:28:10 <Jemler>   yes. the parents hover around and the kids don't learn personal responsibility.\
Dec 18 19:28:37 <KK>   Yes.  And whatever happened to free range kids?  When I was a kid, we went off on our own for hours at a time, and nobody worried.  Of course, the world is scarier now than it was then.
Dec 18 19:28:45 <DesertRose>   Oh, on the topic of uni, my daughter finished her first term of nursing school with straight A's.
Dec 18 19:28:51 <Evie>   Yay, DR!
Dec 18 19:29:04 <DesertRose>   I don't know if the world is scarier so much as we're more aware of what's out there.
Dec 18 19:29:04 <Jerusha>   Congrats to DD, DR
Dec 18 19:29:04 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Congrats to her!
Dec 18 19:29:05 <KK>   Well done, DR's daughter!
Dec 18 19:29:05 <The_Bee>   bravo DD
Dec 18 19:29:34 <Jemler>   i'm feeling a twinge... :)
Dec 18 19:30:01 <DesertRose>   Jemler, you watch it!  My DD is a lot less mild-tempered than I am.
Dec 18 19:30:24 <Jemler>   point taken.
Dec 18 19:30:31 <BalanceTheEnergies>   I think it's several things: we're more aware, standards have changed (free-range parenting can get a visit from child protective services these days), and of late some things are worse.
Dec 18 19:30:34 <Evie>   DS has to find a new place to live in a little less than a month.  After he's had his cat for 2 years, his landlord has decided he doesn't want pets in the apartment, and he's not willing to give up his cat, so he's apartment hunting again.  :-(
Dec 18 19:30:35 <DesertRose>   You overstep with her and having the Riot Act read to you will be the least of your worries.
Dec 18 19:30:38 *   Jerusha waits for a nurse shark to be thrown at Jemler
Dec 18 19:31:00 <DesertRose>   DD is much more argumentative and feisty than her mean old mom.  :)
Dec 18 19:31:16 <Jemler>   i don't need tlc THAT much, jerusha!
Dec 18 19:31:36 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Oh no! Moving in winter. Not fun. Been there done that.
Dec 18 19:31:52 <DesertRose>   Yeah, moving is a royal pain no matter the season.
Dec 18 19:31:59 <Evie>   My kids grew up playing all over our neighborhood with the other kids their age, but we knew all the other parents, and they all knew that if anything happened to make them feel unsafe, they could run to any number of "safe houses," whichever parents lived closest.
Dec 18 19:32:11 <DesertRose>   But maybe given they're in Alabama, Evie's DS will get a break in the weather.
Dec 18 19:32:40 <The_Bee>   I recently learned a new term: "potted plant parenting."  it means that kids want their parents to be around, but they don't feel the need to interact with them.
Dec 18 19:32:44 <Evie>   It's cold and drizzly right now.  Though we welcome the drizzle, given that we're still not out of our drought
Dec 18 19:32:46 <BalanceTheEnergies>   That would be good DR. I did it in the upper Midwest.
Dec 18 19:32:52 <DesertRose>   Yeah, yikes, BalanceTheEnergies
Dec 18 19:33:14 <DesertRose>   For adolescents, I can see that, Bee.
Dec 18 19:33:20 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Not as cold as today (-9 F), but cold and windy.
Dec 18 19:33:27 <DesertRose>   Y'all can keep that!
Dec 18 19:33:30 <Jerusha>   -22 C here
Dec 18 19:33:37 <The_Bee>   Just be available when they need you
Dec 18 19:33:43 <DesertRose>   It keeps trying to rain here, and I wish it would because we need it like whoa.
Dec 18 19:33:44 <KK>   Woo, cold!
Dec 18 19:33:54 <DesertRose>   It hasn't rained really decently for a couple of months.
Dec 18 19:33:55 <The_Bee>   mild and wet today, sunny and cold tomorrow
Dec 18 19:34:01 <Jerusha>   And it's been snowing for days
Dec 18 19:34:33 <Evie>   I'll be heading down to Texas later this week, so at least I'm virtually guaranteed a warm Christmas. Or at least warmer than here.
Dec 18 19:34:34 <Jemler>   brb. dinner.
Dec 18 19:34:36 <Jerusha>   White Christmas is pretty much certain, here
Dec 18 19:34:43 <DesertRose>   Okay, see you in a bit, Jemler
Dec 18 19:35:02 <DesertRose>   DD's BFF went to visit her grandparents in Colorado, so she's getting a white Christmas, it looks like.
Dec 18 19:35:12 <KK>   We had a break yesterday and today; got into the 50's in the daytime.  But it's due to get cold again tomorrow, I think.  But we had a lot of ice on the roads yesterday morning, lots of accidents.
Dec 18 19:35:16 <DesertRose>   At least, it looks that way from the pics she's posting to FB.
Dec 18 19:35:17 <The_Bee>   I'll spend Christmas in Vermont.  Good chance of white, but no guarantee
Dec 18 19:35:29 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Not sure about here. We got a bit of snow yesterday, but forecast in the 40s F near the end of the week.
Dec 18 19:35:57 <DesertRose>   I'd settle for a Wet Christmas; it's a minor miracle we haven't had any wildfire issues with how dry it's been.
Dec 18 19:36:27 <KK>   No snow here for Christmas, I don't think.  But things could change.
Dec 18 19:36:47 <The_Bee>   Seems like half the country has either droughts or floods.
Dec 18 19:36:56 <DesertRose>   I remember exactly one white Christmas, 1989.
Dec 18 19:37:24 <DesertRose>   I think I've lived through a couple more, when I was a little bitty DesertRose, but that would be when I was too young to really remember.
Dec 18 19:37:53 <Evie>   I remember 1989!  I was a newlywed, and we went to Florida for Christmas, but it was icy even in Central Florida
Dec 18 19:38:01 <Jerusha>   Would you have been a DesertBud, DR?
Dec 18 19:38:04 <DesertRose>   Yeah, the citrus crop took a beating that year.
Dec 18 19:38:11 <DesertRose>   That works, Jerusha.  :)
Dec 18 19:38:32 <Evie>   I still regret that we didn't think to stop to take pictures of the icicles hanging off the "Welcome to Frostproof, FL" sign. 
Dec 18 19:38:42 <DesertRose>   I actually lived in South Carolina then, though, so we had six inches of snow on the ground which is unheard of for Charleston.
Dec 18 19:38:50 <BalanceTheEnergies>   I spent that one in the UK, snowless in London.
Dec 18 19:38:55 <DesertRose>   LOL, that would have been a great pic, Evie.
Dec 18 19:38:59 <BalanceTheEnergies>   '89, that is.
Dec 18 19:39:15 <Evie>   We thought about it after we'd passed it, and didn't want to turn around because we were tired of the drive and just wanted to get to my inlaws' house.
Dec 18 19:39:23 <DesertRose>   Aw, shucks.
Dec 18 19:39:40 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Pity. That would've been a good picture.
Dec 18 19:39:42 <The_Bee>   Our Christmas may be a quiet one.  My siter's husband is in the hospital and my niece's husband died two weeks ago.
Dec 18 19:39:50 <Evie>   :-(
Dec 18 19:39:54 <The_Bee>   sister's husband
Dec 18 19:39:55 <DesertRose>   :(
Dec 18 19:39:57 <Jerusha>   Oh my, so sorry, Bee
Dec 18 19:39:58 <BalanceTheEnergies>   :(
Dec 18 19:40:22 <KK>   Oh, dear.  So sorry, Bee.
Dec 18 19:41:04 <Evie>   Which family member are you visiting in Vermont?
Dec 18 19:41:16 <The_Bee>   last I heard, they still didn't know what was wrong with my BIL.
Dec 18 19:41:51 <DesertRose>   Is Melantha traveling with, or have you arranged a cat-sitter?
Dec 18 19:41:59 <The_Bee>   I'll be staying at my sister's house, but she'll be at the hospital most of the time.
Dec 18 19:42:00 <Evie>   The uncertainty can be worse than actually knowing
Dec 18 19:42:06 <DesertRose>   Oh yes.
Dec 18 19:42:33 <The_Bee>   My brother's coming down to fetch Melantha and me.
Dec 18 19:42:53 <DesertRose>   I'd rather know something awful than sit with uncertainty.  The dread gets me way worse than knowing something bad.  At least with something concrete, you can cry and rage and then get down to maybe finding a solution.
Dec 18 19:43:18 <The_Bee>   I can't stay with my brother because his caats are hostile to intruder cats.
Dec 18 19:44:01 <DesertRose>   Yeah, best for Melantha to stay where she won't be under attack.
Dec 18 19:44:21 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Or outnumbered.
Dec 18 19:44:24 <DesertRose>   That too.
Dec 18 19:44:54 <The_Bee>   The other day they couldn't wake my BIL.  They are about to run some scan when he woke up, saw his favorite therapist, and said i, kid>"
Dec 18 19:45:03 <The_Bee>   Hi, kid
Dec 18 19:45:09 <DesertRose>   Yikes, Bee!
Dec 18 19:45:43 <The_Bee>   Sue thinks he was just  tired of being ordered around.
Dec 18 19:46:09 <Jerusha>   I can understand that
Dec 18 19:46:40 <KK>   Definitely sounds scary.
Dec 18 19:46:46 <DesertRose>   Indeed
Dec 18 19:46:49 <The_Bee>   At least he got the neurologist's attention.
Dec 18 19:46:54 <DesertRose>   I guess so!
Dec 18 19:47:23 <Jemler>   ok. back.
Dec 18 19:47:27 <DesertRose>   WB, Jemler
Dec 18 19:47:34 <The_Bee>   rehi jemler
Dec 18 19:47:59 <Jerusha>   wb, Jemler
Dec 18 19:48:08 <Jemler>   did anyone ask about LBM?
Dec 18 19:48:10 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Hello again Jemler
Dec 18 19:48:16 <DesertRose>   OH, no, thanks for reminding, Jemler
Dec 18 19:48:21 <DesertRose>   KK, how is she?
Dec 18 19:49:52 <KK>   Better every day, though her short-term memory is deteriorating.  BP has been great, though, since she's taking her meds religiously.
Dec 18 19:50:07 <DesertRose>   Oh dear to the memory, yay for the rest of it.  :)
Dec 18 19:50:13 <Jerusha>   That is good, KK
Dec 18 19:50:29 <DesertRose>   Are we going to chat next week, it being Christmas day proper?
Dec 18 19:50:51 <Evie>   (I had to re-read that. I read it as LMB and wondered why Jemler was asking about Lois McMaster Bujold!)  Glad she's improving, at least, and hope the memory doesn't deteriorate too much or rapidly.
Dec 18 19:51:41 <Jemler>   LBM - Little Big Man, with Dustin Hoffman.
Dec 18 19:51:59 <The_Bee>   good question, DR.  We may just have to wait and see if anyone shows up.
Dec 18 19:52:18 <DesertRose>   Well, I more or less meant to ask KK if she thinks she's going to show up.  :)
Dec 18 19:52:40 <Evie>   I'll be in TX next Sunday, although my folks have wifi
Dec 18 19:53:09 <BalanceTheEnergies>   I have no plans, so I can nip down to the basement again.
Dec 18 19:53:12 <Jerusha>   I'll be here, chipping the icicles off of my laptop
Dec 18 19:53:34 <DesertRose>   I'll be at my parents' house like as not, but that's a whole 15 miles away and they have wifi.
Dec 18 19:53:47 <Evie>   But if we have chat on Sunday, whether I make it might depend on their plans and when the evening meal is served, since they have set mealtimes at their retirement community. Unless we decide to cook for ourselves in the kitchenette, of course.
Dec 18 19:54:02 <Evie>   LOL @ icicles on laptop
Dec 18 19:54:55 <Jemler>   that is a serious case of a frozen computer!
Dec 18 19:55:04 <DesertRose>   LOL, Jemler
Dec 18 19:55:06 <KK>   I doubt I'll make it, since the kids will still be here, and LBM will be staying with us on Christmas eve and Christmas.
Dec 18 19:55:08 <BalanceTheEnergies>   :)
Dec 18 19:55:22 <DesertRose>   Okay, I kind of figured that, but I also kind of figured it didn't hurt to ask.  :)
Dec 18 19:55:22 <Jerusha>   Furnace stopped working on Friday.  We have a good maintenance plan, so the tech came out right away.  It got a bit cool before it was fixed
Dec 18 19:55:28 <The_Bee>   I'll try to be here.  The day should be winding down by chat time.
Dec 18 19:55:32 <Evie>   OK.  So we'll see you on...um...New Year?
Dec 18 19:55:41 <Jemler>   tell her i ssid merry xmas!
Dec 18 19:55:47 <Evie>   Or should we just wait until the week after?
Dec 18 19:55:56 <DesertRose>   Yes, Merry Christmas to LBM and the kids.
Dec 18 19:56:12 <Jemler>   i'll take the next 2 weeks off.
Dec 18 19:56:12 <Evie>   By New Year, I'll be in TN, but again I'll have access to wifi and probably more schedule flexibility
Dec 18 19:56:19 <The_Bee>   Merrt Christmas to all
Dec 18 19:56:28 *   human (Mibbit@OWIRCN-31f11467.fttp.usinternet.com) has joined
Dec 18 19:56:35 <DesertRose>   Hi human
Dec 18 19:56:37 <The_Bee>   Hi Human
Dec 18 19:56:38 <Evie>   Hi human
Dec 18 19:56:39 <Jerusha>   Hi human
Dec 18 19:56:51 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Hello human
Dec 18 19:56:58 <human>   Hi everyone
Dec 18 19:57:00 <Jemler>   you're outnumbered by deryni here, human
Dec 18 19:57:04 <Jerusha>   Merrt sounds like a cat greeting
Dec 18 19:57:10 <human>   Clearly!
Dec 18 19:57:17 <Jemler>   lol
Dec 18 19:57:20 <The_Bee>   Yes it does
Dec 18 19:57:44 <Evie>   We're mostly harmless, human
Dec 18 19:57:56 <DesertRose>   Usually
Dec 18 19:58:02 <Jerusha>   Well, mostly.  :)
Dec 18 19:58:02 <Evie>   We're well behaved Deryni. Except for Jemler, but we'll fling mackerel at him if he misbehaves. ;-)
Dec 18 19:58:11 <Jemler>   well, The Librarians is coming on. see you all in 2 weeks.
Dec 18 19:58:15 <KK>   I'll try to make New Year's Day.  That's usually something of an anticlimax aorund here.
Dec 18 19:58:19 <DesertRose>   Okay, see you, Jemler.
Dec 18 19:58:26 <Evie>   Goodnight, Jemler
Dec 18 19:58:28 <Jerusha>   Have a merry Christmas, Jemler!
Dec 18 19:58:33 <KK>   Nighter's, Jemler.
Dec 18 19:58:35 <DesertRose>   Okay, then we'll see you on New Year's Day, but not next week.  :)
Dec 18 19:58:38 <Evie>   As you bravely flee my mackerel launcher. ;-)
Dec 18 19:58:41 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Good night Jemler & enjoy the holiday!
Dec 18 19:58:51 <The_Bee>   merry Christmas, Jemler, and Happy New Year.
Dec 18 19:59:04 <Jemler>   i'll make a new years resolution to be even crazier next year. how about that?
Dec 18 19:59:14 <Evie>   Lord help us!
Dec 18 19:59:14 <The_Bee>   LOL
Dec 18 19:59:16 <BalanceTheEnergies>   :D
Dec 18 19:59:17 <DesertRose>   LOL
Dec 18 19:59:22 <Jerusha>   Couldn't ask for more, Jemler!
Dec 18 19:59:29 <KK>   And we'll lay in an extra supply of sharks and mackerel.
Dec 18 19:59:47 <Evie>   I read that as shots and mackerel.
Dec 18 19:59:52 <BalanceTheEnergies>   & maintain the launcher. Perhaps a trebuchet?
Dec 18 20:00:00 <Jemler>   Happy holidays, everyone! until next year!
Dec 18 20:00:02 <DesertRose>   Well, I wouldn't mind a shot...of whiskey!
Dec 18 20:00:05 <Jerusha>   So long as it is not shots of mackeral
Dec 18 20:00:06 <Evie>   I might need a few shots if Jemler gets even crazier.  Of whiskey!
Dec 18 20:00:10 <DesertRose>   LOL
Dec 18 20:00:22 *   Jemler has quit (Quit: )
Dec 18 20:00:30 <DesertRose>   Jemler was like, enough of this!
Dec 18 20:00:34 <DesertRose>   I'm outta here!
Dec 18 20:00:40 <human>   I think shots would be preferable to sharks.
Dec 18 20:01:01 <KK>   Shots of Holy Hand Grenade.  (That's Chambord to the unitiated.)
Dec 18 20:01:20 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Yum!
Dec 18 20:01:23 <DesertRose>   human, there's an explanation for that particular bit of chat craziness.  On certain chat clients, you can slap someone with a trout, and it's become chat tradition to slap/smack/throw fish at people when they make bad jokes.
Dec 18 20:01:34 <The_Bee>   Chambord?
Dec 18 20:01:38 <KK>   Or bad puns.
Dec 18 20:01:43 <Jerusha>   Or even good jokes
Dec 18 20:01:48 <KK>   Raspberry liqueur, Bee.
Dec 18 20:01:55 <DesertRose>   Yummy stuff, Bee.  :)
Dec 18 20:02:03 <The_Bee>   Jemler is a master of semi-dirty jokes.
Dec 18 20:02:11 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Very. I'd even call it glorious1
Dec 18 20:02:16 <KK>   Comes in a bottle shaped like the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
Dec 18 20:02:23 <DesertRose>   The bottle it comes in looks like the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Dec 18 20:02:26 <human>   Hat can be a surprisingly useful skill. So I have found.
Dec 18 20:02:30 <human>   That
Dec 18 20:03:34 <DesertRose>   It's a really lovely bottle full of delicious stuff that goes down way too easily, so it is TROUBLE!
Dec 18 20:03:41 <KK>   Which chat client was that?  I seem to remember Susan using the fish launcher.
Dec 18 20:03:51 <DesertRose>   mIRC does it, and I think a couple others do as well.
Dec 18 20:04:30 <KK>   They've recently (in the last couple of years) changed the bottle, so it isn't as rustic as it used to be.  Was a proper orb before.
Dec 18 20:04:34 <DesertRose>   I use HexChat and it doesn't, but it seems like maybe XChat does, or maybe IceChat (Evie can probably check that).
Dec 18 20:04:54 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Yes, it looked like the orb a monarch would hold.
Dec 18 20:05:07 <Evie>   You can create your own macro commands in Icechat, which is what I use for my mackerel launcher
Dec 18 20:05:26 <DesertRose>   Yeah, but mIRC had it built in, and it seems like at least one other one did too.
Dec 18 20:05:51 <DesertRose>   Most IRC clients will let you make macros.
Dec 18 20:06:20 <KK>   I used to use mIRC, but I lost the link when I changed computers, I think.  Hence I'm doomed to mibbit.
Dec 18 20:06:31 <The_Bee>   me too
Dec 18 20:06:53 <DesertRose>   Like, with mIRC, you could just right-click on a user's name and you'd have the option to "trout" them, and if you clicked on that option, it would slap them with a trout.
Dec 18 20:06:54 <Evie>   Or just look it up and re-download and install it.
Dec 18 20:07:20 <The_Bee>   So far, I'm okay with Mibbit.
Dec 18 20:07:28 <Evie>   www.mirc.com
Dec 18 20:07:30 <DesertRose>   Or maybe the command was "slap," I'm not sure.
Dec 18 20:07:45 <Evie>   The first time you use it, you have to tell it where to go. 
Dec 18 20:07:52 <KK>   That would require that I understand how these chat clients work.  I think Bynw set up my original link.
Dec 18 20:08:09 <human>   Huh. I did not remember that about mIRC. Haven't used it in so many years, just thinking about it makes me feel old :)
Dec 18 20:08:14 <DesertRose>   :)
Dec 18 20:08:22 <Evie>   Cameron should be able to set it up for you.  I can send you the server info he would need to put in it
Dec 18 20:08:27 <DesertRose>   Bynw could probably re-set you up, if he had time.
Dec 18 20:08:28 <The_Bee>   Did Mynw fix your problem of last week, KK?
Dec 18 20:08:36 <DesertRose>   Oh yeah, Cameron probably could do it.
Dec 18 20:09:09 <KK>   I just tried mibbit this week, and it worked fine, so either he fixed it or it fixed itself.
Dec 18 20:09:32 <DesertRose>   I did alert him to the existence of a problem there, so he might have  :)
Dec 18 20:09:53 <The_Bee>   Thew website has an alternate chat link.
Dec 18 20:10:05 <KK>   Please do, Evie  If I have that info, I may be able to figure it out on my own. 
Dec 18 20:10:06 <DesertRose>   That was how she got in last week, belatedly.  :)
Dec 18 20:10:15 <Evie>   That's what she used to get here last week, but by that time nearly everyone else had left
Dec 18 20:10:35 <DesertRose>   human, are you new to the forum?
Dec 18 20:10:55 <human>   Yes, I've never been here before
Dec 18 20:11:02 <Evie>   I'm sorry I didn't think to send the link to it sooner, but I don't think I've ever actually needed to use it myself, so I forget we have that alternate link.
Dec 18 20:11:07 <The_Bee>   Weeelcome, human
Dec 18 20:11:08 <Jerusha>   Welcome!
Dec 18 20:11:09 <Evie>   Welcome!
Dec 18 20:11:14 <DesertRose>   Did you sign up with an account earlier today?
Dec 18 20:11:15 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Welcome!
Dec 18 20:11:44 <DesertRose>   Welcome aboard.  :)
Dec 18 20:11:57 <human>   Thanks! No, I didn't sign up for anything. I was just poking around and clicked a chat link and here y'all were!
Dec 18 20:12:12 <DesertRose>   Oh, okay.  I was just curious because I had a new user account on the forum earlier today.
Dec 18 20:12:21 <The_Bee>   Have you read KK's books?
Dec 18 20:12:36 <human>   Oh yes
Dec 18 20:12:56 <human>   I quite like them, thank you, KK :)
Dec 18 20:12:57 <The_Bee>   Who's your favorite character?
Dec 18 20:12:59 <KK>   Oh, Early Bird Books will be offering Legacy of Lehr for $1.99 on December 26.
Dec 18 20:13:09 <DesertRose>   And my bank account is sad.
Dec 18 20:13:13 <Evie>   We're normally here on Sundays at this hour (starting at 5:00 US Eastern Time, whatever that is where you live), although the first Sunday of the month is normally our early chat that begins 2 hours earlier.  But in January we've postponed early chat to the second Sunday, since the first is a holiday.
Dec 18 20:13:42 <DesertRose>   Nope, 7 pm US eastern on normal chat days.
Dec 18 20:13:48 <DesertRose>   5 pm for early chat.
Dec 18 20:13:59 <The_Bee>   Ooops, Evie.  Usual time is 7pm; early time is 5pm
Dec 18 20:13:59 <human>   Javan or maybe Evaine, I think.
Dec 18 20:14:05 <Evie>   That's right.  My brain went AWOL for a sec
Dec 18 20:14:19 <KK>   Happens a lot, this time of year.
Dec 18 20:14:47 <DesertRose>   Little Miss Meow has awakened from her nap.
Dec 18 20:14:51 <The_Bee>   M ine are Javan and PeregrineLovat from the mage series
Dec 18 20:14:58 <human>   It's cool to have characters who are hardcore scholars.
Dec 18 20:15:03 <Evie>   Camber era. Cool!  I liked those two also, although it's been so long since I read the earlier period books, I've forgotten a lot. But now I think I finally have most in Ebook form, so I'll have to reread them
Dec 18 20:15:20 <DesertRose>   And startled herself by rolling over against her food bowl.
Dec 18 20:15:28 <Evie>   My favorite is Duncan McLain.  :-D
Dec 18 20:15:44 <DesertRose>   And now she's demanding lap time.
Dec 18 20:15:56 <human>   Ooh interesting choice! What do you like best about Duncan?
Dec 18 20:16:00 <Evie>   Although in Camber's time my favorites were Evaine and Joram also.
Dec 18 20:16:04 <Jerusha>   Who'd have thought that, Evie? :D
Dec 18 20:16:34 <The_Bee>   Nigel from Kelson's time
Dec 18 20:16:39 <DesertRose>   Evaine is one of my favorites too.  Her and Rhys.
Dec 18 20:17:26 <Evie>   That's a tough one.  I love the relationship between him and Alaric, although while others seem to gravitate more towards Alaric, I have more of a soft spot for his cousin. I like the flashes of humor, his devotion to his calling, his loyalty, his integrity....
Dec 18 20:17:47 <The_Bee>   I once RPG-ed Evaine.  I had her Calling the Quarters all by herself.
Dec 18 20:17:47 <Evie>   And probably other qualities I could list given a few more moments to ponder.  :-)
Dec 18 20:17:58 <Evie>   And I'm a sucker for blue eyes.  ;-)
Dec 18 20:18:08 <BalanceTheEnergies>   I like aspects of many of the characters, so I can't really choose just one.
Dec 18 20:19:16 <DesertRose>   I found myself with a soft spot for Denis Arilan, whom I used to see as a grouchy so-and-so, but he has his reasons for it, to be sure.
Dec 18 20:19:32 <human>   Ha! Right?
Dec 18 20:19:35 <Evie>   Yes, I like Denis also. My favorite curmudgeon.  ;-)
Dec 18 20:19:48 <BalanceTheEnergies>   ...and I think I'll have to leave you all. There's a party being set up here, I don't know any of these people, and I'm feeling distinctly nervous. Did I mention I'm a bit of an introvert?
Dec 18 20:20:11 <human>   Did they bring food? Maybe you'll at least get food.
Dec 18 20:20:15 <The_Bee>   Try to relax and enjoy yourself.
Dec 18 20:20:16 <DesertRose>   Probably has to do somewhat with my own aging process and my loss of tolerance for nonsense.
Dec 18 20:20:18 <Jerusha>   I understand that completely!
Dec 18 20:20:21 <DesertRose>   Okay, BalanceTheEnergies, take care!
Dec 18 20:20:21 <Evie>   I can relate, BTE.  Go find your comfy corner/retreat.  :-D
Dec 18 20:20:34 <The_Bee>   bye, MtE
Dec 18 20:20:36 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Happy Holidays everyone! Nice to meet you human!
Dec 18 20:20:38 <human>   Good night BTE
Dec 18 20:20:44 <The_Bee>   BtE too
Dec 18 20:20:46 <BalanceTheEnergies>   Good night!
Dec 18 20:20:47 <Jerusha>   Good night, BtE
Dec 18 20:20:59 *   BalanceTheEnergies has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
Dec 18 20:21:03 <KK>   Here's to grouchy curmudgeons.
Dec 18 20:21:08 <DesertRose>   :)
Dec 18 20:21:09 <DesertRose>   Indeed
Dec 18 20:21:19 <Jerusha>   Thank you! :D
Dec 18 20:21:21 <Evie>   Besides, his action figure is fun to prank. ;-)
Dec 18 20:21:38 <Evie>   (I have my own personal 1:6 scale Deryni action figure collection, human.  :-D )
Dec 18 20:21:45 <DesertRose>   I guarantee you, in his younger years, he was Father What-a-Waste in at least one parish.
Dec 18 20:21:47 <human>   He has an action figure?
Dec 18 20:21:57 <DesertRose>   Evie makes action figures of the Deryni characters.
Dec 18 20:22:04 <human>   Oh how neat.
Dec 18 20:22:06 <The_Bee>   Evie makes them.
Dec 18 20:22:13 <Evie>   I customize 1:6 scale action figures and Made to Move Barbies, so yes, he does now. 
Dec 18 20:22:24 <DesertRose>   As in, he's so good-looking, what a waste he's vowed to celibacy.
Dec 18 20:22:39 <KK>   And she sets up scenarios and photographs them to share with us.  Really good costumes.
Dec 18 20:22:40 <Evie>   Well, he's got that Elizabeth Taylor coloring going for him.  :-D
Dec 18 20:22:52 <DesertRose>   Yup
Dec 18 20:22:56 <Evie>   Black hair, blue-violet eyes, and you put him in a cassock. What were you thinking, KK?  :-D
Dec 18 20:23:25 *   Jerusha tries not to imagine Denis as Cleopatra
Dec 18 20:23:38 <human>   Snrk
Dec 18 20:23:38 <Evie>   It's become a running joke around here that if I fall for a KK character, chances are he's either vowed to celibacy or faithfully married already. 
Dec 18 20:23:45 <DesertRose>   Well, his brother certainly repopulated the world with little Arilans in the short time between marrying and getting killed.
Dec 18 20:23:51 <Evie>   LOL, Jerusha
Dec 18 20:24:02 <KK>   lol
Dec 18 20:24:11 <DesertRose>   Well, how many of KK's male characters AREN'T married, either to some fine lady or the Holy Mother Church?
Dec 18 20:24:21 <Evie>   Yeah, I love those dates in the Codex.  Five years between marriage and death, and Jamyl manages to father four stairsteps in that time
Dec 18 20:24:34 <Evie>   Derry.  Saer
Dec 18 20:24:36 <DesertRose>   Poor Lady Arilan didn't get a break.
Dec 18 20:24:40 <Evie>   Jass
Dec 18 20:24:42 <Jerusha>   There was no TV back than
Dec 18 20:24:44 <Evie>   Dhugal
Dec 18 20:24:46 <human>   Well, to be fair they didn't have tv or internet
Dec 18 20:24:48 <Jerusha>   then, that is
Dec 18 20:24:50 <DesertRose>   Yeah, but that's not many.
Dec 18 20:24:53 <KK>   And long, cold winter nights.
Dec 18 20:25:07 <DesertRose>   Dhugal's fairly young.
Dec 18 20:25:15 <Evie>   Not by medieval standards
Dec 18 20:25:29 <DesertRose>   Although he's going to have to get himself hitched pretty quick-like now he's got three titles to pass on!
Dec 18 20:25:30 <Evie>   He's at least 20 by KKB, IIRC, if Kelson is 21
Dec 18 20:25:55 <DesertRose>   Well, true.  I was thinking of Dhugal when we first meet him.
Dec 18 20:25:58 *   Derynifank (Mibbit@OWIRCN-4bda8189.hr.cox.net) has joined
Dec 18 20:26:01 <DesertRose>   Hi Derynifank
Dec 18 20:26:11 <Evie>   Well, I've taken care of Dhugal's love life, though if KK would like to do so officially.... *hint hint!*
Dec 18 20:26:16 <Jerusha>   Hi Derynifank
Dec 18 20:26:17 <DesertRose>   LOL
Dec 18 20:26:25 <The_Bee>   HiHi, Derynufabk
Dec 18 20:26:29 <Jerusha>   One can but hope
Dec 18 20:26:34 <KK>   I think he'll be considering marriage pretty soon.  It was a man's duty to marry and reproduce if he had titles, preferably in that order.
Dec 18 20:26:39 <human>   Oh? Did he meet a pretty action figure?
Dec 18 20:26:55 <DesertRose>   Yeah, doing it the other way around is not recommended even in today's world.
Dec 18 20:27:11 <Evie>   Yes.  There's actually a thread on the action figure project on the forum.  The earliest photo links are broken, but most of it is still working.
Dec 18 20:27:15 <DesertRose>   I did it backwards, and trust me, finishing formal education, marrying, and then having kids is the preferred order of business.
Dec 18 20:27:16 <Derynifank>   Hi, sorry to be late
Dec 18 20:27:30 <Evie>   Hi Derynifank
Dec 18 20:28:26 <DesertRose>   human, Evie has written an epic amount of fanfic.
Dec 18 20:28:28 <Evie>   I was going to make one action figure, human. Just one.  I was going to make Duncan.  So I did, but then he needed an Alaric. And then they need a Kelson.
Dec 18 20:28:38 <Evie>   So, I said, I'd stop with the top 7 characters.
Dec 18 20:28:43 <DesertRose>   HA!
Dec 18 20:28:47 <Evie>   Some...um...30 or so later?  :-D
Dec 18 20:29:08 <DesertRose>   Including original characters from her 21st C. AU Deryni fanfic! :D
Dec 18 20:29:15 <KK>   It actually started with a Lego-Duncan, and went on from there.
Dec 18 20:29:18 <human>   Yeah you can't have a Duncan without an Alaric. His little action figure life would be so dull and safe.
Dec 18 20:29:24 <Evie>   I've got most of the canonical main characters, if not all, and a few from my fanfiction, since I also write
Dec 18 20:29:30 <Derynifank>   Dhugal did have a love life in fanfic
Dec 18 20:29:33 <Jerusha>   There cannot be too many mini Derynis
Dec 18 20:29:53 <Evie>   Oh yes, I have a small handful of LEGO Deryni too, but only 5 thus far.
Dec 18 20:29:58 <Derynifank>   Truem minimderynis are great
Dec 18 20:30:18 <KK>   There have been a fair number of Duncan-heads along the way.
Dec 18 20:30:22 <Derynifank>   Fingers went awry
Dec 18 20:30:22 <Evie>   They've visited KK at DragonCon before
Dec 18 20:30:52 <DesertRose>   And KK has her very own Mini-Camber, Evaine, and Joram, yes?
Dec 18 20:30:52 <Evie>   Yes, for some odd reason my Mini-Duncan is prone to losing his head at odd places and times, to the point that I keep a spare head around now
Dec 18 20:31:03 <The_Bee>   We call that Rented Fingers, Derynifank
Dec 18 20:31:03 <Evie>   She does.  And also Rhys
Dec 18 20:31:06 <DesertRose>   Or is it Rhys
Dec 18 20:31:11 <Jerusha>   Alas, I must go.  Have a very merry Christmas, Everyone!
Dec 18 20:31:12 <DesertRose>   Or all of the above.
Dec 18 20:31:15 <DesertRose>   Okay, g'night, Jerusha
Dec 18 20:31:18 <human>   Bye jerusha
Dec 18 20:31:20 <KK>   She also made me a mini-Camber, Rhys, Evaine, and Joram.
Dec 18 20:31:30 <The_Bee>   Merry Christmas, Jerusha
Dec 18 20:31:31 *   Jerusha has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
Dec 18 20:31:45 <Evie>   Rhys was fun.  I had to make a mohair wig for him since redheaded Kens don't exist, at least not with the rooted hair KK prefers
Dec 18 20:32:08 <DesertRose>   I remember you having to fight Gigi about the mohair. :D
Dec 18 20:32:14 <KK>   Rhys turned out awesome.
Dec 18 20:32:31 <DesertRose>   Gigi is one of Evie's cats, human.
Dec 18 20:32:32 <Evie>   A lot of the action figure project has been a major learn as I go experience, since before I made Mini-Duncan, I had no clue how to customize dolls and action figures
Dec 18 20:32:46 <Evie>   LOL, yes, she wanted to make off with my mohair
Dec 18 20:32:56 <human>   Haha I bet
Dec 18 20:33:08 <Evie>   Gigi has a fur fetish, so I had to keep my mohair hidden from her
Dec 18 20:33:11 <DesertRose>   She likes to abscond with anything furry, so mohair was a temptation beyond all.
Dec 18 20:33:16 <The_Bee>   Gigi is a kleptomaniac.
Dec 18 20:33:45 <KK>   Yike, it's getting late, and my tummy is rumbling for dinner.  Have a wonderful Christmas, all.  And I hope to see you on January 1.
Dec 18 20:33:53 <Evie>   I've also got modern-day Mini-Deryni now, but the medieval collection is the largest and best dressed
Dec 18 20:33:55 <DesertRose>   Okay, see you in two weeks!  Have a good Christmas!
Dec 18 20:34:03 <DesertRose>   Happy New Year too!  :)
Dec 18 20:34:07 <Evie>   Goodnight, KK!
Dec 18 20:34:16 <The_Bee>   Merry christmas to all and to all a good night
Dec 18 20:34:18 *   KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
Dec 18 20:34:23 <Evie>   speaking of Gigi, she hopped up to tell you bye
Dec 18 20:34:30 <The_Bee>   bye KK. glad you came
Dec 18 20:34:34 <Evie>   I swear this cat knows
Dec 18 20:34:34 <KK>   Gus says goodnight from my lap.
Dec 18 20:34:47 <DesertRose>   One of my high school friends gave me a Christmas card when we were in school that read "Merry Christmas to all and party all night!"
Dec 18 20:34:49 <KK>   Nighters, all.
Dec 18 20:34:52 <DesertRose>   G'night Gus!
Dec 18 20:34:59 <DesertRose>   Thanks for coming, KK!
Dec 18 20:35:01 *   KK has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)