Descendants of Camber MacRorie, Earl of Culdi
(Nearly all information is summerized from the 'Codex Derynianus' by Katherine Kurtz and Robert Reginald. Some is from my reading of the novels of the Deryni Series and a little of my own 'Best Guess' from what I know of this world. In those places I state "best guess'. Enjoy.) Laurna 3/22/2015
To visualized chart in PDF please click on attachment
Descendants of Camber MacRorie- Chart 1.pdf
The Descendants of Camber MacRorie- Generations 1-2 and
Cathan's Descendants Generation 2-8
Generation 1
+Camber Kyriell MacRorie, 7th Earl of Culdi, Deryni Mage
Called Defensor Hominum and Kingmaker, Saint
Born: August 3, 846 Died: in name June 905; Died: January 6, 918
Son of Ballard II and Ardis Lady Drummond.
Married: Jocelyn Lady de La Marche on May 18,871
6 children: Count Cathan; Lady Jerusha (Died at age twelve of fever); Lord Ballard(died at age 11 of fever); Lord Joram (Michaeline priest); Lady Ardissa (stillborn); Lady Evaine.
~Jocelyn Lady de La Marche, Countess of Culdi, Lady, Trained Deryni
Born July 21 848, Died December 12 896
Daughter of Evan Barib de la Marche and Brio Lady Gillaspie
Married: Camber Kyriell MacRorie on May 18, 871
Generation 2 Descendants of:
...Camber.
+ Cathan Adrian MacRorie, Count and Master of Culdi, Trained Deryni
Born: August 30, 873 Died: December 1,903
Son of Camber MacRorie and Jocelyn Lady de la Marche
Married: Elinor Lady Howell on May 26, 897
2 Children: Lord Davin Elathan (later Earl of Culdi); Lord Ansel Irial (ancestor of the MacAthan Family).
Murdered by King Imre for suspected treason.
~Elinor Elisabedd Howell MacRorie Drummond, Lady, Deryni
Born: June 1, 880 Died: October 26, 957
Daughter of Michael Lord Howell and Mary Lady MacLean
Half-sister of Coel Lord Howell and Melissa Lady Howell
Married: Cathan MacRorie on May 26, 897
2 Children: Lord Davin Elathan (later Earl of Culdi); Lord Ansel Irial (ancestor of the MacAthan Family).
Married secondly: James (Jamie) Lord Drummond on July 17,906
2 Children: Lady Michaela Jocelyne (who married Rhys Michael King of Gwynedd); Lord Cathan Cinhil "Cathal" (who married Jerusha Evaine Jodotha Thuryn).
James Lord Drummond accepted as his wards, the Ladies Richeldis and Giesele after their father's death(Geoffrey Lord MacLean) November 21,911.
Elinor's powers were Blocked by Tavis on January 21, 918
Forced Retirement to Saint Dymphna's Convent at Grecotha.
Died upon hearing the news of her son Cathan's death.
+ Jerusha MacRorie, Lady
Born: c974-876 Died: age 12 of fever.
+ Ballard MacRorie, Lord
Born: c975-877 Died: age 11 f fever.
+ Joram Angus MacRorie, Lord, Sir, and Father, Trained Deryni
Born: November 23, 878 Died: 948
Son of Camber MacRorie and Jocelyn Lady de la Marche
Entered the Militant Order of Saint Michael in 897
Ordained May 15, 899
Founding member of the Camerian Council
+ Ardissa, Lady
stillborn
++ Evaine Elspeth Jessamyn MacRorie Thuryn, Lady, Trained Deryni
Born: October 6, 882 Died: August 1, 918
Daughter of Camber MacRorie and Jocelyn Lady de la Marche
Married: Rhys Lord Thuryn on January 6, 904
4 Children: Lord Aidan Camber (murdered at age 10 by the regents); Lady Rhysel Jocelyn (married Sir Robert Ainslie); Lord Tieg Joram (married Karis D'Oriel); Lady Jerusha Evaine Jodotha (married Sir Cathan Drummond)
Founding Member of the Camberian Council, Chatelaine of Tor Caerrorie
Died while attempting to restore her father from a suspension spell.
~Rhys Malachy Thuryn, Lord, Deryni Healer
Born: February 17, 877 orphaned in 878 and adopted by Camber MacRorie
Son of Malachy Lord Thuryn and Rosanaugh Lady FitzWilliams
Married: Evaine Lady MacRorie on January 6, 904
Studied Saint Liam's Abbey, Owned estate called Sheele, North of Valoret.
Founding Member of the Camberian Council,
Died December 25, 917 while helping Camber escape from the Regents' trap at All Saints Cathedral.
(See chart 2)
Generation 3 Descendants of:
...Cathan, Camber.
+ Davin Elathan MacRorie, 8th Earl of Culdi, Trained Deryni, Blocked
Born: April 13, 898 Died: September 28, 917 Outlawed as traitor
Son of Cathan MacRorie and Elinor Lady Howell
Never Married
Confirmed Earl on July 7, 905
Powers blocked, assumed the form of Eidiard, a soldier, June 1, 917
+ Ansel Irial MacRorie, Lord, de jure 9th Earl of Culdi. Trained Deryni
Born: March 23, 900 Died: 948
Son of Cathan MacRorie and Elinor Lady Howell
Married Fiona Lady MacLean on May 14, 929
3 Children: Lady Katrin; Lady Davina; Lord Stuart Cathan (later called Stuart MacAthan).
Ancestor of the MacAthan Family. His son Stuart was the first to take on the MacAthan name.
Cambarian Council Member January 8, 918
~Fiona MacLean, Lady, Trained Deryni
Born: December 16, 892 Died: 948
Second child of Iain II Earl of Kierney and Catriona Lady of Mar
Sister to Adrian MacLean, Hereditary Count of Kierney
Married: Ansel Lord MacRorie on May 14, 929
She survived the attack on Trurill Castle on December 31, 917
Assisted Ansel's healing on January 21, 918
She was given the care of the Thuryn children and later took them to the safety of Trevalga in The Connait.
...Evaine, Camber.
++ Aidan Camber Thuryn, Deryni
Born: January 6, 907 Died: December 31, 917 age 10
Son of Rhys Lord Thuryn and Evaine Lady MacRorie
Fostered to Adrian Lord MacLean in Trurill.
Mistaken of Camlin MacLean he was tortured and killed by Manfred's men.
++1 Rhysel Jocelyn Thuryn Ainslie, Lady, Trained Deryni
Born: November 18, 910 Died: October 23, 974
Daughter of Rhys Lord Thuryn and Evaine Lady MacRorie
Orphaned on August 1, 918, Raised by Fiona MacLean
Married: Sir Robert Ainslie on August 21, 928
3 Children: Lady Bethany (married Alphard Baron Stanzar); Sir Javyl (Lord of Argoed 973-); Lady Tiphane (married Tammaron Duke of Cassan).
~Robert Ainslie, called Robin, Hereditary Lord Argoed, Lord Regent of Gwynedd, Sir
Born: April 1 901 Died: February 3, 949
Son of Ainslie Lord Argoed (lives 100 years and 5 days 873-973) and Edidh Lady Ballingmore. Robert died before his father.
Married: Rhysel Lady Thuryn on August 21, 928
(See chart 2)
++2 Tieg Joram Thuryn, Lord, Deryni Healer
Born: August 1, 914 Died: 948
Son of Rhys Lord Thuryn and Evaine Lady MacRorie
Orphaned on August 1, 918, Raised by Fiona MacLean
Married: Karis Lady D'Oriel on August 25, 935
4 Children: Lady Madelon (who married Jurgen Lord Leslie); Lady Aine; Lord Jacuth; Lady Lassa.
Assisted Joram, Healer and able to Block powers
~Karis d'Oriel, Lady, Deryni
Born: July 14 917 Died: 948
Only child of Oriel Lord de Bourg (Deryni Healer) and Alana Lady Destaing
Married: Tieg Lord thuryn on August 25, 935
(See chart 2)
++3 Jerusha Evaine Jodotha Thuryn Drummond, Lady, Deryni Healer
Born: January 1, 918 Died: January 7, 1001 age 83 years
Daughter of Rhys Malachy Lord Thuryn and Evaine MacRorie
Married: Sir Cathan Drummond on April 30, 937
Children: Lady Kyriella (who married Stuart Lord MacAthan); Lord Corwin; Lady Evalina.
After her mother's death on August 1, 918, she was raised by her cousin Fiona Lady MacLean.
~Cathan Cinhil Drummond, Sir, Lord Deryni
Born: March 23, 910 Died: October 18, 957 age 47
Son of Lord James (Jamie) Drummond and Elinor Elisabedd Howell MacRorie
Brother of Lady Michaela Queen of Gwynedd.
Married: Jerusha Thuryn on April 30, 937
Children: Lady Kyriella; Lord Corwin; Lady Evalina.
Generation 4 Descendants of:
...Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
+Katrin MacRorie, Lady, Deryni
Born: in or after 930
Daughter of Ansel Irial MacRorie and Fiona MacLean
+Davina MacRorie, Lady, Deryni
Born: in or after 931
Daughter of Ansel Irial MacRorie and Fiona MacLean
+Stuart Cathan MacRorie, Lord (later called Stuart MacAthan), Deryni
Born: in or after 932
Son of Ansel Irial MacRorie and Fiona MacLean
Married: Kyriella Drummond (See chart 2)
Children: ?(Krispin)MacAthan (ancestor of Sief MacAthan)
(Additional children from Fan-fiction War of Three Kings by drakensis- see chart 7)
~++3 Kyriella Drummond MacAthan, Lady, Deryni
Born in or after 938
Daughter of Cathan Cinhil Drummond and Jerusha Thuryn
Married: Stuart MacAthan ie Stuart Cathan MacRorie
Children: ?(Krispin)MacAthan (ancestor of Sief MacAthan)
...Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
++3 Kyriella Drummond MacAthan Lady, Deryni
Born in or after 938
Daughter of Cathan Cinhil Drummond and Jerusha Thuryn
Married Stuart MacAthan
Children: ?(Krispin)MacAthan (ancestor of Sief MacAthan)
~+Stuart MacAthan, Lord, Deryni
Son of Ansel Irial MacRorie and Fiona MacLean
Married: Kyriella Drummond
Children:?(Krispin)MacAthan (ancestor of Sief MacAthan)
(additional children from fan-fiction War of Three Kings by drakensis- see chart 7)
++3 Corwin Drummond Lord, Deryni
Born: ? Died: ?
Son of Cathan Cinhil Drummond and Jerusha Thuryn
Married: ?
Children: ?
(Children from fan-fiction War of Three Kings by drakensis- see chart 7)
++3 Evalina Drummond, Lady, Deryni
Born in or after 938
Daughter or Cathan Cinhil Drummond and Jerusha Thuryn
Generation 5 Descendants of:
...Katrin, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
+ ?
...Davina, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
+ ?
...Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3 Krispin MacAthan, Lord, Deryni
(Best Guess that this is the Krispin MacAthan mentioned by Sief in In the Kings Service.)
Born: sometime around 963 Died:
Son of Stuart MacAthan and Kyriella Drummond
("I've decided to call him Krispin. There was a Krispin MacAthan a few generations back." In the King's Service Prologue. Sief MacAthan said this of his family, and this is the most likely person to be of that name.)
+,++3? (Fan-fiction War of Three Kings by Drakensis) (See Chart 7)
...Corwin, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
++3 ?
++3 ? (Fan-fiction War of Three Kings by Drakensis)
(See Chart 7)
...Evalina, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
++3 ?
Generation 6 Descendants of:
...Krispin MacAthan, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber
...Krispin MacAthan, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3 ?MacAthan Lord, Deryni
Born: sometime around 980
Son: ??MacAthan
Ancestor of Sief MacAthan
+,++3 ?2MacAthan Lord, Deryni
Born sometime around 981
Son: ??2MacAthan
(Fan-fiction War of Three Kings by Drakensis)(see chart 7 Fan-fiction)
Generation 7 Descendants of:
...?MacAthan, Krispin MacAthan, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...?MacAthan, Krispin MacAthan, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3 ??MacAthan, Deryni
Born: sometime around 1000
Son: Lord Sief MacAthan
...?2MacAthan, Krispin MacAthan, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...?2MacAthan, Krispin MacAthan, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3 ??2MacAthan, Deryni
Born: sometime around 1000
Daughter: Lady Sylphe MacAthan( Best guess)
Generation 8 Descendants of:
...??MacAthan, ?MacAthan, Krispin, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...??MacAthan, ?MacAthan, Krispin, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3 Sief, Lord MacAthan, Camberian Council member, Deryni (6th or 7th generation)
Born: c.1023 Died: 1082 at about age 59
Son of
Married: Jessamy Ap Lewys after March 1052. When her father's occult experiment goes awry and he disappears on March 21 1052
Children: four surviving daughters- Sieffina (married oldest son of Michon de Courcy); Jessilde; Jesiana; Seffira. - several sons that did not survive.
Discovered his wife had an affair with King Donal Haldane and is killed in a Duel Arcane with the King.
~Jessamy Ap Lewys, Lady, Deryni
Born: c1041 (age 40+ in 1082) Died:
Daughter of Lweys ap Norfal and Ilde Furstan-d Arjenol
Married Sief MacAthan at age 11, bedded at age 14
Children: Sieffina; Jessilde; Jesiana; Seffira
An Affair with King Donal Haldane
Children: Lord Krispin
...??2MacAthan, ?2MacAthan, Krispin, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...??2MacAthan, ?2MacAthan, Krispin, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3 Sylphe, Lady MacAthan, Deryni, (Best Guess: should be a cousin or a 2nd cousin to Sief MacAthan)
Born: Died:
Daughter of : ?
Married: Michon Etienne Estephe de Courcy, Baron de Courcy and Stanza on May 1, 1055 (eldest son of Guiscard Titular Baron de Courcy and Stanzar and Lady Lune daughter of Bonarld Count of Trevalga) (Codex page 179)
Children: Lady Charolys: Hereditary Lord Aurelien (later Titular Baron de Courcy and Stanzar married Sieffina MacAthan); Lord Jehoram; Lady Micheline; Lord Fenelon; Lady Chablys.
~++1 Michon Etienne Estephe de Courcy, Baron de Courcy and Stanzar, Deryni
Born: May 11, 1030 Died: October 30, 1097 Age 67 years
Eldest son of Guiscard Titular* Baron de Courcy and Stanzar and Lady Lune daughter of Bonarld Count of Trevalga. Succeeded his father on November 20, 1056. (Codex page 179)
Married to Sylphy MacAthan on May 1, 1055
Children: 3 boys, 3 girls
Elected to Camberian Council in 1067, secretly training many young Deryni in the magical arts.
Generation 9 Descendants of:
...Sief, ??MacAthan, ?MacAthan, Krispin, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...Seif, ??MacAthan, ?MacAthan, Krispin, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3 Sieffani MacAthan, Lady, Deryni
Born: Died:
Oldest daughter of Sief MacAthan and Jessamy ap Lewys
Married: Lord Aurelien de Courcy, oldest son of Michon de Courcy's (Michon's other two sons are Lord Jehoram and Lord Fenelon)
Children:
~+,++3,++1 Aurilien de Courcy, Baron de Courcy and Stanzar (1097- ), Deryni
Born: Died:
(See chart 2)
+,++3 Jessilde, Sister Iris Jessilde, Deryni
Born: Died:
Daughter of Sief MacAthan and Jessamy ap Lewys
A sister at the Convent d"Arc-en-Ciel a days ride north of Rhemuth.
+,++3 Jesiana MacAthan, Deryni
Born: c.1073 (nine years old in 1082) Died:
Daughter of Sief MacAthan and Jessamy ap Lewys
+,++3 Seffira MacAthan, Deryni
Born: c.1078 (four years old in 1082) Died:
Daughter of Sief MacAthan and Jessamy ap Lewys
++1 Krispin Sief MacAthan, Deryni
born: 1082 Died: 1/6/1090
Secretly a son of Donal Haldane and Jessamy ap Lewys
Publicly known as the only living son of Sief MacAthan and Jessamy ap Lewys .
Outrageously abused by two guardsmen in the service of Baron Deldour of Carthane and then Murdered by Septimus de Nore on Twelfth Night in 1090.
Generation 10 Descendants of:
...Aurilien, Michon, Guiscard, ??deCourcy, ?de Courcy, Bethany, Rhysel, Evaine, Camber. and
...Aurilien, Sylphe, ??2 MacAthan, ?2MacAthan, Krispin, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...Aurilien, Sylphe, ??2MacAthan, ?2MacAthan, Krispin, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
...Sieffana, Sief, ??MacAthan, ?MacAthan, Krispin, Stuart Cathan, Ansel, Cathan, Camber.
...Sieffana, Seif, ??MacAthan, ?MacAthan, Krispin, Kyriella, Jerusha, Evaine, Camber.
+,++3,++1,+,++3 The children of Aurilien and Sieffana (all children are Deryni)
I am in total awe of your industry and attention to detail
Me too. I can't even organize my sock drawer. :)
Who said anything about organizing a sock drawer? I most certainly can not do that. LOL!
This was a far more ambitious project than I thought it would be in the beginning. I have been working on it for months, and I still don't have chart 5 and 6 completed. But it will get done soon enough.
Please, if anyone sees an error, point it out to me. And if in your reading of the novels, you find more information such as names of spouses and children that are unknown or dates, I would love to know about it.
Have a wonderful day.
I bow to the Mistress of Genealogy. Your research and attention to detail is awesome.
The contents of my sock drawer has folded in respect for your efforts. ;D
Quote from: Laurna on March 22, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
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++ Evaine Elspeth Jessamyn MacRorie Thuryn, Lady, Trained Deryni
Born: October 6, 882 Died: August 1, 918
Daughter of Camber MacRorie and Jocelyn Lady de la Marche
Married: Rhys Lord Thuryn on January 6, 904
4 Children: Lord Aidan Camber (murdered at age 10 by the regents); Lady Rhysel Jocelyn (married Sir Tovin Ainslie); Lord Tieg Joram (married Karis D'Oriel); Lady Jerusha Evaine Jodotha (married Sir Cathan Drummond)
That should say that Lady Rhysel married Sir *Robert* Ainslie (also called Robin).
Quote from: Laurna on March 22, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
~++3 Kyriella Drummond MacAthan, Lady, Deryni
Born in or after 938
Daughter or Cathan Cinhil Drummond and Jerusha Thuryn
That should say "Daughter *of* ..."
Quote from: Laurna on March 22, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
++3 Evalina Drummond, Lady, Deryni
Born in or after 938
Daughter or Cathan Cinhil Drummond and Jerusha Thuryn
That should say "Daughter *of* ..."
Good job!
Thank you for finding my typos. Those are now fixed.
"Daughter or Cathan" I have to admit this typo made me giggle. "Who should I be today? A daughter, or should I be Cathan?" ::)
Melissa
;D
Didn't Rhys die on December 25, 917?
Quote from: Marko on September 09, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
Didn't Rhys die on December 25, 917?
Yes, alas. :-(
Lenni
Quote from: lenni on September 10, 2015, 01:57:57 AM
Quote from: Marko on September 09, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
Didn't Rhys die on December 25, 917?
Yes, alas. :-(
Lenni
Oh dear! My error! FIXED. Thank you Marko, thank you lenni for catching that. I misread the Codex and I had blocked that part of the KJY from my memory. Some tragedies are to traumatic to reread.
Isn't all of KJY too traumatic! I think though, that the death of Rhys is in Camber the heretic - not that it makes it any easier to read.
You're correct, Revanne. Rhys does die at the end of CtH
Melissa
Rhys' death was always the hardest for me to deal with. It took me a while to believe that KK had really done it. Not that those that followed were that much easier, but I guess I had learned to cope. :'(
For me Rhys' death was so difficult because it could so easily have been avoided, and because i could imagine watching it in slow motion.
I agree but I found Javan's worse because I really thought he had won his battles. And because he was so young.