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MerchantDeryni's FanFic / Re: Not quite fanfic
« Last post by Bynw on September 21, 2018, 11:40:43 pm »
The policing of it would be difficult if the Deryni population is still a fraction of the human poplulation. But as the Deryni population grows. Methods of detection will also come about. A Portal can be felt if one stands on it. Unless it's one of those Camber portals.

Katherine wrote in Deryni Magic the following when it comes to detecting a Portal:

"Perception of a Portal location requires close proximity to or contact with the
Portal square the term most often used to describe the boundary of the Portal location,
despite the fact that an octagon is used in construction. The energy pattern of a "live" or
operational Portal usually is perceived as a tingling or a pulsing sensation, though this
clearly is a psychic rather than a physical phenomenon, since humans do not feel it. A
Deryni accustomed to Portal use can lock onto a familiar Portal merely by stepping onto
the square; a neophyte may need to make contact with a bare hand before the distinctive
energy pattern can be felt.

The interweaving of energies that causes the tingling or pulsing sensation
sometimes is called the Portal matrix. It is this matrix that holds the coordinates of a
particular Portal and that must be Learned before an operator may use it. An adept can
learn the coordinates of a new Portal merely by standing on the Portal square, but
individuals memorizing Portal coordinates for first time use generally will place one hand
flat on the floor or ground, in order to complete a physical circuit and allow the psychic
information to percolate to appropriate levels of consciousness. Physical contact,
especially with a hand, also is helpful in attempting to locate an unknown Portal or one
grown weak through disuse, as when Duncan searches for a long-destroyed Portal site in
the ruins of Saint Neot's."

And she wrote this about the energy cost of using a Portal:

"Portal transfer requires an energy outlay on the part of the operator. This
outlay is nominal in the case of single short jumps by an operator whose handling of the
energies is efficient, but the drain on the operator can be cumulative if efficiency is less
than optimal or the operator must execute a series of jumps in a relatively short period of
time. In addition, very long distance jumps take considerably more energy than shorter
ones, perhaps in a geometric rather than arithmetic ratio. When Tiercel first begins
teaching Conall about the use of Portals, he warns the prince against overextending.

This would seem to indicate that a certain energy expenditure is required simply
to activate the Portal, each time the Portal is used to which is added an additional
expenditure that is directly related to the distance to be traveled. The individual operator's
efficiency/ability level also would be a factor, as would the residual energy level of the
Portal itself."


This means, given proper training, which has been absent in Gwynedd for some time for the Deryni population. That detecting a portal, even a private one. And private means not common knowledge of it's "address" you could potentially still sense it even if you weren't standing on it. There are exceptions, the Portal that Camber/Alister made for example but not all portals would be of that nature.

And as we move into the world with technological advances with the Deryni magic as well. The detection of a portal could be done like we detect radiation or other forms of energy or even detecting the USE of a portal. "We have an energy spike in the portal wave length in section 87." The officer in charge sends a team to investigate the use of an unregistered portal.

Since the statement was about boarder enforecment. It would still be enforced but there would be additional methods. Just as tunnels under boarder happen today. With magic one would be detecting un authorized portals.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by judywward on September 21, 2018, 11:35:00 pm »
I had to read the wedding scene again, it was so sweet & wonderful, so tender and sweet! I know they will have much love in their lives and probably a good bit of adventure, too. Great writing everyone!!
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MerchantDeryni's FanFic / Re: Not quite fanfic
« Last post by MerchantDeryni on September 21, 2018, 10:25:23 pm »
The borders being non-existent comment was to argue that if a smuggling ring wanted to bring in drugs or sneak people into a country they could simply build a Portal on one side of the wall and then send a crew in to build a Portal somewhere within 300 miles of the border.

Lets use Mexico/USA as an example. A drug and human smuggling cartel could buy a house in Mexico near the border. They could build a Portal there. They send the Portal team north disguised as tourists and purchase a house within Portal range of the Mexican Portal. Then they shuttle drugs and people across the border without any issues.

They could extend their own clandestine network from drug lab or field all the way across the U.S.. Forget public portals, it is the clandestine ones you have to be worried about.

Larry Niven wrote about these sort of issues in his transfer booth series of stories (Flash Crowd and others  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_Crowd )

Imagine the Harry Potterverse with a drug cartel setting up their own Flue portal and smuggling in all the naughty critters and evil ingredients for Diagon Alley.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by Jerusha on September 21, 2018, 07:49:03 pm »
Wonderfully done, revanne!
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MerchantDeryni's FanFic / Re: Not quite fanfic
« Last post by DesertRose on September 21, 2018, 06:56:53 pm »
That would be an excellent source of income for a town. And a means of attracting trade to the market district if traders could flit from city to city trading in rare goods. Information flow would also increase.

Of course portals also make borders non-existent.  With Portals there is no way to stop people from going anywhere they want. Smugglers could build their own networks and smuggle people in. Drugs can be brought in without any risk of sniffer dogs.  (My Locker 6 story touches on this, so does Adhan).

Well, there is a way to trap a Portal, and perhaps with another few hundred years to study the mechanics of how Portals work, someone could figure out how to trap a Portal selectively, so that someone with legitimate business at that Portal could go on about their business, but someone who has no business being there would be stuck until someone with authority over that Portal came to figure out who they were and why they were there.

I'm thinking something akin to the Haldane/Kelson's-blood-relatives-specific veil around the library Portal in KKB, except on the Portal itself or perhaps the Portal chamber is veiled so that people who are known to have a reason to be there can pass through as if the veil were not in place, but someone who is at least at the moment unauthorized would be stuck in the Portal chamber.
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MerchantDeryni's FanFic / Re: Not quite fanfic
« Last post by Bynw on September 21, 2018, 06:30:51 pm »

Of course portals also make borders non-existent.  With Portals there is no way to stop people from going anywhere they want. Smugglers could build their own networks and smuggle people in. Drugs can be brought in without any risk of sniffer dogs.  (My Locker 6 story touches on this, so does Adhan).

Actually that wouldn't be correct. From our own non magical vantage point. Yes it could be an issue. But in a world where magic exists and being able to Teleport via a Transfer Portal like the Deryni due or apport magic like the Wizards in Harry Potter series do. Boarders are still there. And they are still enforced. Yes you might be able to slip through some private portal location that isn't know by authorities unless one has to licence them.

Public portals, like the ones I described could be easily enforced. Anyone arriving could be subject to showing some kind of identity papers. And don't try to mind-change them either. Boarder guards by default would have to be Deryni as well. And never alone. Anyone coming and going would be subject to search of the items they carried with them.

Mother necessity would create means of securing national boarders even in the age of Teleportation. Deryni may learn ways of detecting the use of magic from a distance in the area. And be able to detect if someone is manipulating any event. And learn ways of suppressing the ability within a small area. Effectively making a psychic static where powers just dont function or function well. And you have to go outside to have them work again. 
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MerchantDeryni's FanFic / Re: Not quite fanfic
« Last post by MerchantDeryni on September 21, 2018, 06:18:14 pm »
That would be an excellent source of income for a town. And a means of attracting trade to the market district if traders could flit from city to city trading in rare goods. Information flow would also increase.

Of course portals also make borders non-existent.  With Portals there is no way to stop people from going anywhere they want. Smugglers could build their own networks and smuggle people in. Drugs can be brought in without any risk of sniffer dogs.  (My Locker 6 story touches on this, so does Adhan).
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General Information, Question, and/or Ideas / Re: How many jumps per day
« Last post by MerchantDeryni on September 21, 2018, 06:10:19 pm »
Yeah, that's my biggest issue and area of hand waving. The fatigue when using the portal is a real issue for my trade network.

If draining another Deryni or a human is allowed I could have a live in staff of people who get shuttled from one location and back as people flit to and fro on the network. Pay them a few pennies a day and a street kid could earn as much as a skilled laborer. That is my own concept anyway. Deryni have a long history of energy transfer.

Either that or they have to wait 3 hours between jumps. They can have a meal and a cup of tea, a nap etc. Then continue on the journey. Each night they need a good 8 hours of bedrest.

Allows for the scene:

"You know you could at least try and blend in. We are trying to keep a low profile."

"Whatever do you mean? I'm just having some lunch and reading the paper."

"Yes, exactly. You are sitting on a patio eating lunch in Cairo and reading the Rhemuth Times. It is this morning's edition."

"I have to keep up with the news, so much is happening in the world. Pass the salt would you?"
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General Information, Question, and/or Ideas / Re: How many jumps per day
« Last post by Bynw on September 21, 2018, 05:58:43 pm »
I would say as a rule of thumb yes. But it would also depend on distance travelled as well. A long jump may cause the operator to be too tired and fatigued to make any others.
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MerchantDeryni's FanFic / Re: Not quite fanfic
« Last post by Bynw on September 21, 2018, 05:57:33 pm »
Hey MerchantDeryni,

That is pretty good. And as most everyone knows I run the play-by-post game here on the forum "Ghosts of the Past" which is set only about 30 years after the events in KKB. Kelson there is pretty much still King. However. I do have my own home-brew game world being an avid gamer. And Deryni are present in that. But they have never been persecuted or low in population. In fact the Deryni of my home-brew world out number the non-Deryni humans.

Throughout my home-brew setting, there are not only private transfer portals of course, but there is a public network as well. Every major city has one at the center or near the market district. Clearly identified and anyone can use and learn it without so much as anyone raising an eyebrow. In my home-brew setting, it is common practice to drop a few coins every time you use one of the public portals. The funds are collected by the town and used for infrastructure improvements and maintenance.
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