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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by Laurna on Today at 04:08:32 pm »
Waren De Gray  could be a second sighter  that just happened to be lucky enough and rare enough to have gained healing. He is not Deryni at all but he could have boarder blood. it might be a rare boarder gift that is seen but the healer usily is just a clan physisian who appears to be skilled or  really good. maybe the healing is not as high a quality as a Deryni Healer.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by DesertRose on Today at 03:49:54 pm »
Bethane could also be an example. Unless I am misremembering she isn't Deryni, although she was married to one. So there is some skill at least in spell craft. I have never been sure whether the Jessamin (spelling?) crystal which killed Bronwen and Kevin was misset by accident or by malice. There is some suggestion that long years of loneliness and brooding on the past have sent her slighty mad.

KK drops quite a few hints that it is "Second Sight" that has bred a greater tolerance for Deryni in the borders so I think that it must have at least some Deryni traits, most likely in the area of knowing more than is the normal human range.

That's a good point.  I think KK deliberately left a question about the setting of the jerraman hanging as to whether Bethane just messed up or meant it to be fatal.

And it might well be that those who have the Second Sight are in something of a gray area between human and Deryni.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by revanne on Today at 03:32:28 pm »
Bethane could also be an example. Unless I am misremembering she isn't Deryni, although she was married to one. So there is some skill at least in spell craft. I have never been sure whether the Jessamin (spelling?) crystal which killed Bronwen and Kevin was misset by accident or by malice. There is some suggestion that long years of loneliness and brooding on the past have sent her slighty mad.

KK drops quite a few hints that it is "Second Sight" that has bred a greater tolerance for Deryni in the borders so I think that it must have at least some Deryni traits, most likely in the area of knowing more than is the normal human range.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by DesertRose on Today at 03:12:37 pm »
So what have we seen the Border Second Sight character due in KK's writings?

Ciard seems to have been the main example, and he could dowse, feel the approach of people he knew well, and seemed to be at least slightly prescient.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by Bynw on Today at 03:10:17 pm »
So what have we seen the Border Second Sight character due in KK's writings?
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by revanne on Today at 01:15:19 pm »
That is fascinating and a very helpful way of looking at it.

"Our players live in a medieval world where science has not yet progressed enough to study how magic works and to find a way to do it if you were not born to it. But that may come in time."

The limiting factor for the Deryni world to do this exploration might be the challenge it posed to Deryni. KK has provided a strong ethical framework but we see so many times how that is subverted by those who wish to see their power unchallenged. 

I can see a parallel in our world. In many ways there was no reason why the ancient world could not have developed technology, the mathematical framework, even allowing for the absence of zero was there. What was lacking was motivation. The prevalence of slavery, and the ready supply of slaves in the Roman Empire together with the disregard for their well-being meant that there was plenty of man-power available to provide a comfortable and leisured lifestyle for the wealthy and powerful.

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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by Laurna on Today at 01:00:08 pm »
To extend this theory into the animal world, I think there are creatures in dark places that can create and extinguish light like handfire, Light they can even move away from their bodies. I will bet there are colonies of animals that can use Rapport among st themselves to warn of danger. Not verbal calls like in our world but mental calls. I think there might even be small creatures like reptiles or such that send out energy pulses to stun their prey. Let us be thankful the dinosaur sized lizard that can do that has become extinct. I love the idea of creatures that favor certain types of stone that they have become attuned to. When danger comes they portal between their favored stones, making them impossible to find or to catch.
If we stay in the world of the eleven kingdoms long enough and start to do scientific studies we might just discover these things.
But alas at the moment we are not explorers.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by DesertRose on Today at 12:46:20 pm »
That is a great explanation, Laurna.  It makes me think of Morgan's discussion with Dhugal wherein Alaric uses fire as a metaphor for power in general and Deryni abilities specifically.  :D
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by Bynw on Today at 12:45:01 pm »
You know Laurna, I like that. Might create a new Trait for 2nd Sight for those seventh sons of a seventh son and others too of course.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Rules Errata
« Last post by Laurna on Today at 12:04:17 pm »
This might not be a cannon explanation but I strongly believe that 2nd sight is a separate genetic way of using the magic that is in the 11 kingdom world. If magic is an innate physical force in this world, then different peoples from different areas would have evolved to use that physical force in different but similar ways.
(ie in the real world, flying is a possibility. Birds developed flight by evolving highly structured feathers that cup and hold the air in such a way that they can maintain altitude. For an Elephant this will seem like Magic. Other creatures can fly too. Bats developed extending lengths of skin with little hair that can cup the wind and carry them in flight. Watch a monkey-bat fly and be amazed at it's size and wonder how it can stay aloft. Flying squirrels formed similar stretches of skin to allow them to jump from tree to tree. Flying fish formed special fins that wave so fast they can skim across the water.)
IF the physical force of flying exists, than nature can developed many forms to use it.

Magic is just like flying. Many forms of magic have evolved in different groups of people. Deryni are the Birds, highly specialize to use that physical force to the best advantage. Peoples with second sight are like the bats, they found their own way to use the magic in their world. There may be other forms of animals that actually use magic too, like the flying squirrels and the flying fish. And people like us humans watch all those that can fly or those that can use magic and we are jealous and envious to the point where we find a way to fly too. If there weren't birds in our world, we would never have thought to build airplanes. Our players live in a medieval world where science has not yet progressed enough to study how magic works and to find a way to do it if you were not born to it. But that may come in time.
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