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Title: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 21, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened; Or, How to Write Good (Original source unknown)

1.  Verbs HAS to agree with their subjects.

2. Never use a preposition to end a sentence with. Winston Churchill, corrected on this error once, responded to the young man         who corrected him by saying "Young man, that is the kind of impudence up with which I will not put!"

3.  And don't start a sentence with a conjunction.

4.  It is wrong to ever split an infinitive.

5.  Avoid cliches like the plague. (They're old hat.)

6.  Also, avoid any awful anachronistic aggravating antediluvian alliterations.

7.  Be more or less specific.

8.  Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary.

9.  Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies endlessly over and over again.

10. No sentence fragments.

11. Contractions aren't always necessary and shouldn't be used to excess so don't.

12. Foreign words and phrases are not always apropos.

13. Do not be redundant; do not use more words than necessary; it's highly superfluous and can be excessive. Stamp out and
eliminate redundancy.

14. Avoid those run-on sentences that just go on, and on, and on, they never stop, they just keep rambling, and you really wish the person would just shut up, but no, they just keep going, they're worse than the Energizer Bunny, they babble incessantly, and these sentences, they just never stop, they go on forever...if you get my drift...

15. You should never use the second person.

16. All generalizations are bad.

17. Comparisons are as bad as cliches.

18. Don't use no double negatives. Don't never use no triple negatives.

19. Avoid excessive use of ampersands & abbrevs., etc.

20. One-word sentences? Eliminate.

21. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake (Unless they are as good as gold).

22. The passive voice should never be used..

23. Eliminate commas, that are, not necessary. Parenthetical words, however, should be enclosed in commas.

24. Never use a big word when substituting a diminutive one would suffice.

25. Don't overuse exclamation points!!!

26. Use words correctly, irregardless of how others use them.

27. Understatement is always the absolute best way to put forth earth-shaking ideas.

28. Use the apostrophe in it's proper place and omit it when its not needed and use it correctly with words' that show possession.

29. Don't use too many quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "I hate quotations."

30. If you've heard it once, you've heard it a billion times: Resist hyperbole; not one writer in a million can use it correctly.

31. Besides, hyperbole is always overdone, anyway.

32. Puns are for children, not groan readers.

33. Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms.

34. Keep your ear to the grindstone, your nose to the ground, take the bull by the horns of a dilemma, and stop mixing your  metaphors. Even IF a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.

35. Who needs rhetorical questions? However, what if there were no rhetorical questions?

36. Corollary: Complete sentences: important.

37. Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement. Avoid those abysmally horrible, outrageously repellent exaggerations.

38. Avoid "buzz-words"; such integrated transitional scenarios complicate simplistic matters.

39. People don't spell "a lot" correctly alot of the time.

40. Each person should use their possessive pronouns correctly.

41. All grammar and spelling rules have exceptions (with a few exceptions)....Morgan's Law.

42. Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.

43. The dash - a sometimes useful punctuation mark - can often be overused - even though it's a helpful tool some of the time.

44. Proofread carefully to make sure you don't repeat repeat any words.

45. Never go off on tangents, which are lines that intersect a curve at only one point and were discovered by Euclid, who lived in the sixth century, which was an era dominated by the Goths, who lived in what we now know as Poland..

46. Don't use question marks inappropriately?

47. Don't obfuscate your theses with extraneous verbiage.

48. Never use that totally cool, radically groovy, out-of-date slang.

49.Avoid tumbling off the cliff of triteness into the black abyss of overused metaphors.

50. In writing, it's important to remember that dangling sentences



(Feel free to add you own!)


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Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Jerusha on January 21, 2015, 06:35:28 PM
Now why do I see myself in so many of these rules?   :o

"41. All grammar and spelling rules have exceptions (with a few exceptions)....Morgan's Law."  Is this actually Murphy's law, but you have paid a tribute to all of us Morgan fanbabes?  ;D
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 21, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
To be honest, any decent copy editor will tell you that many of these "rules" are more like helpful guidelines that one is allowed (at times even encouraged) to break if doing so will produce a better written piece that communicates exactly what you wish to say in a manner that is clear and easily comprehensible.  For instance, Churchill had good reason to consider Rule 2 one "up with which he would not put," because slavish adherence to that guideline leads to horribly stilted writing. The teachers who still insist on that rule are generally those who were too busy memorizing  often outdated <insert angelic choir here> RULES </choir> to learn how a living language actually works. Others, on the other hand, need to be observed pretty much always.  If you go around breaking Rule 1 all the time ("I has a headache, my cat are hungry, but I sits here writing stoopid sentences"), people will have reason to think you've turned into a toddler or a LOLcat.  The trick is becoming conversant enough in knowing which "rules" are which in order to produce well written copy.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 21, 2015, 07:11:50 PM
All that said, number 45 made me laugh out loud, because I'm a nerd that way, and this list is the song of my people.  ;D
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 22, 2015, 12:19:57 AM
Heck, I only posted this for its humor. Rebel that I am, I don't agree with all of it. Rule 22, for example (and Rule 43 as it is written  violates #22).

Much depends on what one is writing. A work of fiction shouldn't read like a scientific research paper, and vice-versa.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: revanne on January 22, 2015, 03:48:55 AM
Can't quote properly on this tablet but my cats take exception to Evie's remark. They wish it to be clearly understood that everything a cat does is by definition purrfect, even grammar. They suggest you clearly meant to type "dog"
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 22, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7559/16154456149_8874513c4d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qBvP12)I are a dog (https://flic.kr/p/qBvP12) by evian_delacourt (https://www.flickr.com/people/9573389@N08/), on Flickr

Surprised Kitteh would like you to know that his grammar is purrfect...it's the rest of the world's usage that is all jacked up!  ;D
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 22, 2015, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: revanne on January 22, 2015, 03:48:55 AM
Can't quote properly on this tablet but my cats take exception to Evie's remark. They wish it to be clearly understood that everything a cat does is by definition purrfect, even grammar. They suggest you clearly meant to type "dog"

Perhaps cats across the pond are just naturally more articulate than their American counterparts? 

(https://forthesakeofscience.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/funny-pictures-cat-hates-your-grammar.jpg?w=468&h=350)
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 22, 2015, 02:19:41 PM
A message from revanne's moggy:

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Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 22, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
Methinks Shakespeare Kitten is an imposter, otherwise he would say "thy foul grammar."   ;D
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: revanne on January 22, 2015, 02:38:57 PM
:<)))
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 22, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: Evie on January 22, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
Methinks Shakespeare Kitten is an imposter, otherwise he would say "thy foul grammar."   ;D

An American actor, obviously, and not classically trained.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: revanne on January 22, 2015, 03:14:09 PM
"An american actor, obviously ". My understanding is that American English is in some ways closer to Shakespeare's English than current British usage. The only examples that come to mind are gotten as a past participle, instead of got, and sick for ill rather than poorly but I'm sure there are more.

I think moggies and kittehs from either side of the pond are more than capable of expressing their opinions. I love the pictures though and as I'm away from my computer for a few days while my sister looks after Dad to give me and DH a break I'm now wondering what said moggies (Simba and Where Khan) are up to in my absence.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 22, 2015, 03:54:16 PM
I seem to recall reading in a book about the history of the English language that certain parts of Appalachia may have a dialect that is closer to Shakespearean English in pronunciation than anywhere in the modern UK.  It makes sense considering how isolated some of those mountain communities are (with little contact with outside communities to influence language change), and that the earliest settlers there would have arrived not too long after Shakespeare's time.  Although that book was written probably over two decades ago, so the arrival of TV and radio to those areas might have effected rapid change since that time.  (Assuming such influences, that is.  There is one such community in the mountain region of Tennessee that my church does a mission trip to every summer to do such work as installing electrical wiring or modern plumbing facilities in impoverished people's homes, so just because we're in the 21st Century doesn't mean we can assume that everyone has access to TV and radio, even in the First World.)
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: DesertRose on January 22, 2015, 04:07:28 PM
One of my SCA friends, who presently lives in Florida, is a native of a small town in Tennessee and has the accent to prove it.  At an SCA event in October, he wowed us all by reciting long passages of several Shakespeare plays in the strongest rural Tennessee accent he could manage.  It was amazing.  The flow, rhyme, and meter came out perfectly, and it sounded freaking fantastic.  I made a comment about the rural Appalachian accents being closer to Shakespearean accents than anything else extant, and he just smiled.  :)
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: lenni on January 22, 2015, 11:11:07 PM
Quote from: Aerlys on January 22, 2015, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: revanne on January 22, 2015, 03:48:55 AM
Can't quote properly on this tablet but my cats take exception to Evie's remark. They wish it to be clearly understood that everything a cat does is by definition purrfect, even grammar. They suggest you clearly meant to type "dog"

Perhaps cats across the pond are just naturally more articulate than their American counterparts? 

(https://forthesakeofscience.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/funny-pictures-cat-hates-your-grammar.jpg?w=468&h=350)

I think that Shakespeare Kitten's typist forgot a comma. What Shakespeare Kitten actually dictated was, "Shakespeare Kitten dost not approve of thou, foul grammar."
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 23, 2015, 06:48:11 AM
Quote from: lenni on January 22, 2015, 11:11:07 PM
Quote from: Aerlys on January 22, 2015, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: revanne on January 22, 2015, 03:48:55 AM
Can't quote properly on this tablet but my cats take exception to Evie's remark. They wish it to be clearly understood that everything a cat does is by definition purrfect, even grammar. They suggest you clearly meant to type "dog"

Perhaps cats across the pond are just naturally more articulate than their American counterparts? 

(https://forthesakeofscience.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/funny-pictures-cat-hates-your-grammar.jpg?w=468&h=350)

I think that Shakespeare Kitten's typist forgot a comma. What Shakespeare Kitten actually dictated was, "Shakespeare Kitten dost not approve of thou, foul grammar."

Ah, but in that case the sentence would need to say "dost not approve of thee," unless Shakespeare Kitten's point is that he disapproves of grammar so much that he refuses to bother with it at all.  ;D

Thou - subject.   Thou shalt use proper grammar.
Thee- object.  Shakespeare Kitten disapproves of thee.
Thy- possessive pronoun in front of word that doesn't begin with a vowel sound. Thy quill stands at the ready, Master Shakespeare Kitten.
Thine- possessive pronoun in front of word beginning with vowel sound.  Thine inkwell is dry, alas, so thy treatise on grammar shall have to wait.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 23, 2015, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Evie on January 22, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
Methinks Shakespeare Kitten is an imposter, otherwise he would say "thy foul grammar."   ;D


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Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: revanne on January 23, 2015, 02:04:42 PM
Or as I remember from Romeo and Juliet "bites his thumb".
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 23, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
Alas, I do not write them, nor may I modify them. I only post them.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Elkhound on January 23, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
But cats don't have thumbs.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 23, 2015, 02:38:08 PM
Not opposable thumbs, but maybe the finger (not sure what it's called on a cat) nearest to the inside of each paw counts for the purpose.  When my cats splay their paws out to clean between their claws, they look pretty hand-like to me, despite not being as versatile as the human hand.

Or maybe the dewclaw counts as a cat thumb, even though it's not opposable either. My cats chew there sometimes, and I've always assumed they were just grooming, but maybe they're really "biting their thumbs" at me!  :o
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: lenni on January 23, 2015, 04:57:08 PM
Quote from: Evie on January 23, 2015, 06:48:11 AM
Quote from: lenni on January 22, 2015, 11:11:07 PM
I think that Shakespeare Kitten's typist forgot a comma. What Shakespeare Kitten actually dictated was, "Shakespeare Kitten dost not approve of thou, foul grammar."

Ah, but in that case the sentence would need to say "dost not approve of thee," unless Shakespeare Kitten's point is that he disapproves of grammar so much that he refuses to bother with it at all.  ;D

Thou - subject.   Thou shalt use proper grammar.
Thee- object.  Shakespeare Kitten disapproves of thee.
Thy- possessive pronoun in front of word that doesn't begin with a vowel sound. Thy quill stands at the ready, Master Shakespeare Kitten.
Thine- possessive pronoun in front of word beginning with vowel sound.  Thine inkwell is dry, alas, so thy treatise on grammar shall have to wait.

Darn it, Evie! You're making too much sense. (Thank you!)
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 23, 2015, 06:10:45 PM
Thou'rt welcome!   ;D (And on a related note, the reason we don't use those art / shalt / dost (etc.) verbs anymore is that they were linked to "thou," which we've all but dropped from the language except when quoting Shakespeare, the King James Bible, or trying to impress one's pastor with how pious one can sound in prayer.  ;) )
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Elkhound on January 23, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
Some polydactyl cats (Hemmingway Cats) almost have thumbs.
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Aerlys on January 23, 2015, 10:34:18 PM
Quote from: Elkhound on January 23, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
Some polydactyl cats (Hemmingway Cats) almost have thumbs.

Hemmingway? I thought we were quoting Shakespeare.   :o

I wonder what kind of thumbs a Dickens cat has. Does a Chaucer cat have a big grin?   ;D
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Jerusha on January 24, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: Aerlys on January 23, 2015, 10:34:18 PM
Quote from: Elkhound on January 23, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
Some polydactyl cats (Hemmingway Cats) almost have thumbs.

I wonder what kind of thumbs a Dickens cat has. Does a Chaucer cat have a big grin?   ;D

A Chaucer cat may or may not have a big grin, but I'm sure it has a tail to tell.   ;D
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Evie on January 24, 2015, 05:38:05 PM
Quote from: Jerusha on January 24, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: Aerlys on January 23, 2015, 10:34:18 PM
Quote from: Elkhound on January 23, 2015, 09:18:49 PM
Some polydactyl cats (Hemmingway Cats) almost have thumbs.

I wonder what kind of thumbs a Dickens cat has. Does a Chaucer cat have a big grin?   ;D

A Chaucer cat may or may not have a big grin, but I'm sure it has a tail to tell.   ;D

Chaucer cats are closely related to Canterbury cats, which have all sorts of tails....   ;)
Title: Re: 50 Grammar Rules for the Unenlightened
Post by: Elkhound on January 24, 2015, 10:41:50 PM
It is Dodgeson cats that have the grins.