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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by revanne on Today at 12:38:29 am »
@DerynifanK. Don't worry too much about developing your character at this stage, that happens as we go along. The main thing is to chose some character traits from Bynw's list and a plausible reason for meeting up with the rest of us. We will then take good care of you (Washburn chokes quietly).
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MerchantDeryni's FanFic / Re: Pepper and Lace: Chapter 7
« Last post by Laurna on October 15, 2018, 10:11:01 pm »
The independent woman in me says go Alicia go! The mother hen in me is worried about her.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by Jerusha on October 15, 2018, 09:27:21 pm »
I'm sure it will be a good character, Deryinfank.  Looking forward to him/her!
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by DerynifanK on October 15, 2018, 08:19:53 pm »
@Laurna, I am considering  it. I have an idea for a character, trying to develop  it. 
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by Laurna on October 15, 2018, 12:14:55 pm »
First it was more like a sponge bath than an immersion bath. So Wash would not have taken the wine skin off, just like you don't take a necklace off to take a bath. Also Meave and Roland would have noticed that he did not take it off, but they never would have touched it. Not without orders from Iain to do so. Roland is a knight so he has his honor.  He would never steal. Not even a young house boy, and they don't seem to have one, would dare to steal from a man who was taller than the door frame. ;D.
DerynifanK, I am happy you are looking after Wash.
I know of one way you could really make sure Wash was taken care of and does not fall into the wrong hands.
Join us in Meara. Yes?
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by Evie on October 15, 2018, 11:05:10 am »
At the moment it's not really a concern. I very much doubt Iain would have taken Wash and Sidana to seek sanctuary with a couple who is likely to steal any of their personal possessions, which is what taking a sip of the Blue Fyre from his personal wineskin without his express permission would be.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by Bynw on October 15, 2018, 09:48:10 am »
If a human were to take it. Nothing much would happen. It would have a sweet taste to it more than normal. And they would feel pins and needles at the fingers after about 20 minutes or so and then on going for the next 6+ hours. They might gain some heightened awareness during that time. But other than that he wouldn't have an issues.

A Deryni on the other hand ...


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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by DerynifanK on October 15, 2018, 08:19:22 am »
I do have 2 concerns about what is happening with Wash at this time. When he stripped and had his bath what happened to the wine skin with the Blue Fyre?  It would be bad if it fell into the wrong hands or if the wrong person drank it not knowing what it was. Also worry about Wash's use of the Deryni  power blocking while his mind is still altered. It could lead to many problems. Just thinking about it and worrying. I"m really good at worrying.
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The Childe Morgan / Re: Women holding titles in their own right.
« Last post by revanne on October 15, 2018, 05:56:51 am »
We need to bear in mind too that in medieval times the care of a home and birthing and raising children was of extreme importance. Until the improvement in agricultural practice and the drop in infant mortality ( beginning around the mid to late eighteen century) the survival of a family into the next generation was by no means assured. The idea of women as fragile and limited owes more to the Victorian  "Angel in the home" than the realities of medieval life where even wealthy women would have their hands full with real significant tasks which ensured the well-being and survival of their communities. There is also some interesting research around, which I don't have time to really  explore at the moment, about how the 16th and 17th professionalisation of things such as medicine served to exclude women from areas where their expertise would have been previously valued ( and it's then that Wise women become demonized as witches, not in medieval times).

So yes women were excluded from land holding and titles on the whole but their role in society was more important than in later times.

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The Childe Morgan / Re: Women holding titles in their own right.
« Last post by Evie on October 14, 2018, 11:35:11 pm »


I may be male, but there are times the blatant 'sexism' regardless of time period, custom, tradition and law just galls me, and puts the bitter taste in the back of my throat. It goes without saying that my motto holds true 'Je promets et J'ose' (I promise and I dare). I would have equal rights all around, male of female, human or Deryni.

It was with surprise, relief and the feeling of 'about time, too', reading a FanFic story in 20th-21st century with Regnant Queens of Gwynnedd, the latest one being Sophia II Haldane.

Thank you; I'm glad you enjoyed reading Balance of Power!  Of course, Sophia did have the advantage of being born in the right century to be allowed to rule Gwynedd as a sovereign Queen. Even modern-day Britain, on which my modern-day Gwynedd was very loosely based, only recently (less than a decade ago) changed its inheritance laws to allow a princess to inherit the throne even if she has younger male siblings.

Of course, KK's laws of inheritance reflect the reality of medieval law in most places and periods. They were laws created during a time when land had to be won and held by right of arms, and since men were nearly always the warriors, men were the ones favored in the inheritance laws. Landed women were taught how to defend their castles or fortified manors, or at least how to lead such a defense (with their male guards and steward doing most of the actual defending), and there are a few women who went further and led their men into battle, but they were more the notable exception than the rule by the Middle Ages.  (There's a little more evidence for women warriors in earlier periods.) But by and large, it was the lord who had the feudal obligation to his king to protect the barony, earldom, or duchy entrusted to his keeping, and therefore his land would be expected to pass down through the male line, since his right to inherit was literally won by right of his sword arm, his warrior skills being promised to his liegelord's use in exchange for the privilege of land ownership.

It was only in later centuries that the link between being able to physically take up arms to defend the land and people became more tenuously linked to land ownership, and then not really linked to it at all, but of course by that time centuries of societal thinking that "Men own the land, women simply help tend to it" was pretty deeply entrenched. But to be fair, medieval women actually had more inheritance rights than their Victorian descendants in some ways. By the Victorian age, those rights had eroded to the point that a widow with no sons might be in dire straits indeed unless she had some male relative to care for her (you can see echoes of this in Jane Austen's novels), whereas a medieval woman would have had her dower to fall back on.  It was looked at as an early form of social security system, some money or property given to the bride upon her marriage that was hers and hers alone, and which she could invest, sell, and/or bequeath as she chose, so she would not be left destitute (at least in theory) if she was widowed, even if her husband turned out to be a wastrel and squandered the rest of the family income.

But going back to medieval Gwynedd and women's roles within it, I think KK does a good job in showing that despite the systemic inequalities in medieval society, women still found ways of being strong and exercising what power they did have despite not being in warrior roles. And of course women with Deryni powers would be even more formidable. And the men of that world generally sense and respect that strength when it is displayed. Arilan, even with his full-blood Deryni heritage and much higher training than Alaric and Duncan, seems to have no problem at all working in a magical ritual alongside Richenda, or recognizing her capabilities as a trained Deryni. Morgan's junior officers distrust Richenda's capability to lead them in his absence not because she is a woman, but because she used to be the wife of a known traitor and therefore her true loyalties are in doubt. Had she not been Bran's widow, it would have been accepted as a matter of course that the Duchess has the right to govern in the Duke's absence.  And Evaine had the respect of her male colleagues in the original Camberian Council because her knowledge and talents were clearly evident. There was no "Why don't you go home and tend to your hearth where you belong, little woman!" attitude there!
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