KK Chat -- 5 May 2013

[DesertRose]

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[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:12 PM] <jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:14 PM] <DesertRose> HI KK
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:16 PM] <KK> Hello, peeps.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:36 PM] <jemler> how was your week?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:42 PM] <Sarah> hi KK
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:42 PM] <TerryOBrien> HEllo Katherine
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:56 PM] <the_Bee> Hi KK. HOw goes it?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:56 PM] <Shiral> Hello Katherine
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:01:56 PM] <KK> It was good.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:02:03 PM] <Evie> hello
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:02:17 PM] <KK> Hi, Evie.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:02:56 PM] <Evie> You got here just in time to prevent jemler from sharing Hannibal Lecter's recipe for Cream of Duncan soup. For which I thank you.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:08 PM] <jemler>
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:09 PM] <KK> I have a research question for you guys. Have I said yet where Alaric got the St. Camber medal he loans to Derry in DC?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:21 PM] <Shiral> And the ice cream sundae bar hasn't even melted much
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:25 PM] <jemler> it was his mothers wasn;t it?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:31 PM] <KK> Yikes, it's a good thing I came when I did!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:35 PM] <Evie> I had the impression he inherited it from his mom, though I don't recall why I think that.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:43 PM] <Shiral> I was of the impression that it belonged to his mother, but you never tell us where Alyce got it
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:03:48 PM] <TerryOBrien> If you did, it was just in passing
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:04:27 PM] <Evie> It's possible we all assumed it was from Alyce since that would have been the most reasonable explanation at the time we read the books.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:04:53 PM] <Shiral> Maybe Vera had it and gives it to Alaric with a "This belonged to your mother, Alaric" explanation>?
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[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:12 PM] <Evie> I'm reading the Gil Cunningham medieval mystery series right now, so I had to concentrate to type Alyce rather than Alys.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:15 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:17 PM] <jemler> i know kelson and dhugals were cast from alarics.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:19 PM] <KK> Vera wouldn't have had it, since it might have blown her cover as Deryni.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:20 PM] <jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:36 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:40 PM] <Shiral> What if she found it among Alyce's effects?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:44 PM] <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:05:53 PM] <Evie> Kenneth might have kept it to give to Alaric once he was old enough
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:06:03 PM] <KK> She still wouldn't have had a legitimate reason to possess it.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:06:07 PM] <jemler> her adoptive parents might have given it to her. she knew she was alyces sister and no one else did.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:06:26 PM] <Shiral> True, but wouldn't a duchess have a nice jewelry box with a VERY secret compartment?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:06:33 PM] <KK> Her adoptive parents wouldn't have had anything Deryi.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:07:10 PM] <Shiral> Or maybe Kenneth did have it, and Vera found it when HE died?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:07:18 PM] <jemler> could se have given it to alyce?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:07:22 PM] <KK> If Kenneth had it, he's gone now. THough I suppose Alaric might have found it among Kenneth's things.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:07:38 PM] <the_Bee> Did the Howards even know that Vera wasn't the child she gave birth to?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:07:51 PM] <jemler> the mother knew.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:07:52 PM] <Shiral> What if Llion was entrusted to give it to Alaric by Kenneth?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:01 PM] <KK> The wife did, not not the husband.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:17 PM] <KK> Llion wasn't with him when he died.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:37 PM] <DesertRose> What killed Kenneth?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:42 PM] <Shiral> Errm.... complicated problem
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:42 PM] <DesertRose> I'm trying to remember.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:51 PM] <KK> Heart attack in the current book.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:52 PM] <Jerusha> If we are talking about Alyce's St, Camber medal, would she not have set it aside for Alaric right before her death?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:53 PM] <Evie> No, but surely he or someone would have taken care of Kenneth's personal effects after he died, including any keepsakes Kenneth kept that belonged to Alyce
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:08:55 PM] <jemler> what of the kheldouri carpetmaker vera mentioned? could she have gotten it from him?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:08 PM] <Shiral> Or...what if Se had it?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:29 PM] <Shiral> Since he's Alaric's godfather and has a knack for showing up when he's needed??
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[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:44 PM] <jemler> hi df
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:46 PM] <the_Bee> Hi DF
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:46 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi all
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:47 PM] <DesertRose> Ooh, yeah, Se is a good candidate.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:48 PM] <Shiral> Hi DF
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:51 PM] <DesertRose> Hi derynifanatic64.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:09:55 PM] <Jerusha> Hi DF64
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:10:21 PM] Nick Sarah is now known as Sarah_busy.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:10:31 PM] <Evie> If Se teaches Alaric about ward cubes, it would also make sense that he'd hold something of Alyce's in trust for her son.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:10:32 PM] <Jerusha> How would Alyce have gotten it to Se? She wasn't planning on dying
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:10:41 PM] <KK> It sounds like I haven't mentioned it, unless it was in the current book. But I do describe Alaric wearing his father's Lendour signet on a chain around his neck. It could be on the chain with the St Camber medal. That works for me.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:10:43 PM] <Evie> No, but Kenneth had years in which to get it to Se
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:11:02 PM] <jemler> it'd be funny if alaric got it dfrom jehana before she knew he was deryni, and if she didn't recognize a gwyneddan saint!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:11:24 PM] <KK> He's not that close to Jehana.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:11:29 PM] <Jerusha> I think Jehana would have known!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:03 PM] <Shiral> Wouldn't Jehana sense SOMETHING from the pendant... and freak herself out if she ever touched it? =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:08 PM] <Evie> As anti-Deryni as jehana is, she probably would have broken out in hives once she saw ol' Sanctus Camberus on a medal.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:30 PM] <TerryOBrien> Either that or got a severe case of the vapours
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:32 PM] <Jerusha> She would have gotten rid of it as soon as possible
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:36 PM] <KK> I think I can write it into the present book, that Kenneth gives it to his son at a certain age, perhaps when he's made a page; and then Alaric decides to put his father's Lendour ring on that chain when Kenneth dies.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:45 PM] <Shiral> Her nickname was Queen Blotchy
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[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:58 PM] <Evie> That sounds good, KK.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:12:58 PM] <Jerusha> I like it, KK
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:02 PM] <jemler> hi cm
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:03 PM] <Shiral> Hi CM
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:17 PM] <Jerusha> Hi CM
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:18 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hello, all.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:22 PM] <Evie> Though he might want to warn Page Alaric not to wear the medallion around Court, and to keep it well hidden.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:33 PM] <KK> OK, just wanted to be sure I hadn't already said where it came from, in an earlier book. THanks, all of you.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:39 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi cm
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:51 PM] <Shiral> Poor Alaric, all his most interesting possessions and abilities have to stay hidden. =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:52 PM] <Evie> hi, CM
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:13:55 PM] <the_Bee> That should work, KK. Alaric may simply have told Derry, "It belonged to my mother," without going into details.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:14:38 PM] <Evie> Or we may even have just assumed that because his mother was the most sensible source for it. After all, he couldn't have very well gone down to the Coroth market and bought one. :-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:15:23 PM] <TerryOBrien> It may just Alaric's supposition it was his mother's
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:15:29 PM] <Jerusha> Now what am I offered for a pendant of the Saint that will get you burned?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:15:32 PM] <Evie> "Shopkeeper, do you carry any medals of banished Deryni saints?" :-D
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:16:01 PM] <Shiral> Or might you have a set of ward cubes you can sell me under the counter?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:16:19 PM] <KK> It's no secret at court that he's Deryni. And when he first loans it to Derry on p. 62 of DC, he doesn't specify where he got it.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:16:42 PM] <Shiral> Alaric has somewhat different priorities at that moment
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:16:44 PM] <Jerusha> Derry really didn't need to know
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:16:47 PM] <the_Bee> Which raises the question, where did Alaric get his ward cubes, if not from Vera?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:16:49 PM] <Evie> "I have just the thing, lad. It will cost you 5 royals and if you'll wait right here, I'll fetch it for you as soon as I've summoned the Bishop to let him know what you're asking after...."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:16:49 PM] <KK> And it was no secret at court that Alyce was Deryni.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:17:17 PM] <KK> Bee, that's in the current book.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:17:32 PM] <jemler> found something about the medal: "What kind of medal is this anyway, M'Lord? I don't recognize the inscription or the figure "
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:17:33 PM] <jemler> "I was afraid you'd ask," Morgan grinned. "Ifs a very old Saint Camber medallion dating from just after the Restoration. It was left to me in my mother's will."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:17:33 PM] <jemler> "A Camber medal!" Derry breathed. "What if someone recognizes it?"
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:17:48 PM] <jemler> deryni checkmate
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:17:51 PM] <Jerusha> I'm so looking forward to the current book!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:17:59 PM] <Evie> Good job, jemler.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:03 PM] <TerryOBrien> Hurrah! for jemler's research
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:13 PM] <KK> Thank you, Jemler! I hadn't read that rar.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:14 PM] <jemler> i have it on ebook.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:20 PM] <Jerusha> Yay Jemler!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:24 PM] <Evie> search features are handy things
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:26 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12we're all looking forward to the current book
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:26 PM] <Shiral> There's a man who keeps his Deryni lore in reach
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:49 PM] <jemler> not quite. the codex is across the room.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:53 PM] <TerryOBrien> Which could still mean someone intervened to ensure he received it, otherwise someone could have 'disappeared' it
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:53 PM] <Jerusha> Some things are important
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:18:57 PM] * Shiral wants to see the friendship between Alaric and Brion develop
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:19:21 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12including their first meeting
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:19:29 PM] <Shiral> The Codex wasn't really the book you needed in this case, was it, Jemler? =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:19:57 PM] <Shiral> Well, they HAVE met before the start of this book
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:20:29 PM] <the_Bee> yes, in The Knighting of Derry
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:20:30 PM] <Jerusha> Though only on the periphery.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:21:10 PM] <Jerusha> I don't think Alaric had much contact with Brion in CM
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:21:22 PM] <KK> laric has been in and out of court by the time he's made a page, though they're both boys.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:21:39 PM] <Shiral> Well...Alaric IS four. Not much interest to a Prince who's just coming of age
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:21:39 PM] <the_Bee> but Brion is several years older.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:22:00 PM] <Shiral> In CM that is. Now he's older and getting REALLY interesting
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:22:37 PM] <Jerusha> Alaric is always interesting. I love the shoe scene at the start of CM
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:22:48 PM] <the_Bee> KK, have you chosen a title yet?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:22:59 PM] <KK> What makes them take notice of one another, once DOnal is gone, is that Donal has told Brion that Alaric will be important in his future. So Brion keeps an eye on Alaric, waiting for him to grow up.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:23:36 PM] <KK> Not for certain, Bee, but I"m leaning toward The King's Deryni.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:23:41 PM] <Shiral> Clearly, once Alaric is older, they find they're compatible!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:23:52 PM] <Evie> I like that, KK
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:00 PM] <the_Bee> works for me
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:11 PM] <Evie> much better than "CM3".
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:15 PM] <Jerusha> Any title works for me
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:26 PM] <DesertRose> That sounds good, KK.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:26 PM] <KK> THey become increasingly close once Kenneth is gone, because Alaric keeps aging, and he becomes a page at court.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:33 PM] <jemler> The King's Deryni right before Deryni Rising.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:35 PM] <Shiral> You could call it War and Peace, and I wouldn't mind at all
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:45 PM] <Shiral> =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:52 PM] <Shiral> Just as long as I get to read it!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:24:56 PM] <the_Bee> Tolstoi's heir might mind.
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[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:03 PM] <jemler> in russian?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:08 PM] <the_Bee> Hi kelric
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:09 PM] <jemler> hi kelric
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:15 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Kelric
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:18 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Kelric.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:23 PM] * the_Bee hides the honeypot.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:23 PM] <Shiral> Just pointing out that I'll read it no matter what it's called. Hi Kelric
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:34 PM] <Jerusha> In the case of the Deryni, it's mostly war and very little peace
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:35 PM] <KK> Hi, Kelric.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:43 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Kelric
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:25:50 PM] * Evie waves hello
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:23 PM] <Evie> Oof! The furry anvil just pounced onto my chest and is purring loudly at all of you
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:28 PM] <jemler> * the wheels in jemler's head start turning...*
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:29 PM] <Shiral> So what is happening to our heroes this week, other than St. Camber medals, KK?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:43 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Luke.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:43 PM] <jemler> hi luke.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:51 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Luke!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:52 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Luke
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:26:58 PM] <Shiral> I live with a furry anvil. you have my sympathies, Evie
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:03 PM] <jemler> where's melantha tonite?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:03 PM] <TerryOBrien> Shiral, you're making the Deryni sound like a movie serial
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:16 PM] <jemler> i wish!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:17 PM] <Shiral> I wish it was, Terry! =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:26 PM] <Jerusha> That would be a bad thing?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:30 PM] <Evie> I could live with that
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:33 PM] <jemler> shiral, get outta my head!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:56 PM] <Shiral> I'm not IN your head, Jemler. =o) Too cramped in there. And too full of fish
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:27:57 PM] <the_Bee> on the footrest of my recliner.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:28:04 PM] <Evie> Medieval Downton Abbey with magic and royalty added. ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:28:04 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi kelric and luke
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:28:09 PM] <TerryOBrien> "After narrowly escaping the Bishop's ambush, we see Alaric and Duncan stealthfully make their way to Rhemuth ..."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:28:35 PM] <cynicalmedic> <cue dramatic music>
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:28:38 PM] <Shiral> Naw...I'm just interested in the progress of the latest Opus
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:28:51 PM] <KK> Alaric has taken Llion, Jamyl, the dowager queen, Alazais as her attendant, and a few others to Cynfyn, whence they will go on (minus Alaric) to try to negotiate the return of Xenia's body and that of her infant daughter. Richeldis and Brion don't want their daughter/sister to lie on foreign soil.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:29:06 PM] <Evie> Jamyl's going? Cool!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:29:09 PM] <Shiral> Might be interesting to have a Fanfic from the point of view of castle servants
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:29:29 PM] <Jerusha> Richeldis is going herself?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:29:45 PM] <TerryOBrien> Upstairs Rhemuth, Downstairs Rhemuth ?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:29:50 PM] <Shiral> You don't mess with an angry queen who wants her daughter back
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:29:51 PM] <jemler> who could turn down a mothers wish?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:30:05 PM] <Evie> Does Alaric know Jamyl's little brother yet? Because they don't seem to be that closely acquainted, if at all, in the original trilogy
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:30:08 PM] <Jerusha> Any Torenthi, probably
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:30:20 PM] <KK> Just before they reach Cynfyn, Se and another Anvil knight show up, offering to help negotiate, and Se is in the process of teaching Alaric how to use his Cammer medal to commubicate while Se and co are away.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:30:35 PM] <Jerusha> Cool
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:30:42 PM] <jemler> anyone want to get between a mother and child, make out a will!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:30:50 PM] <Shiral> Se does have a knack for showing up just when he's needed. =o)\\
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:31:02 PM] <Jerusha> Richeldis is not a wallflower, I'll bet
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:31:09 PM] <KK> No, they don't know one another, and the Arilans will be careful that the two don't particularly cross paths.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:31:13 PM] <Evie> Someday maybe he'll teach Alaric how that "knack" works. Unless he dies first, of course.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:31:17 PM] <Shiral> After living with Donal, I'd sure hope she's not
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:31:19 PM] <jemler> 3 cheers for Se!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:31:46 PM] <Evie> Alaric doesn't know Jamyl is Deryni, I'm guessing?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:07 PM] <Jerusha> I would worry for her on Torenthi soil. On the other hand, if anything happened it would be war for sure
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:07 PM] <jemler> he didn't know denis was.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:10 PM] <Shiral> He doesn't find out about Denis until years later, so I'd say no
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:19 PM] <KK> No, because if he knew, he'd know that Denis is also Deryni--and we know he doesn't.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:21 PM] <jemler> with a name like arilan, you could guess.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:29 PM] <Evie> OK. That's what I figured
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:36 PM] <KK> Tricky balancing act, there. That's why they can't interact.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:40 PM] <Evie> Gotta love my Stealth Arilans. ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:32:53 PM] <Jerusha> There
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:33:01 PM] <Shiral> So it's handy that Alaric has to stay home from Torenth in that case
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:33:08 PM] <Jerusha> There's not much stealth about Sextus!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:33:19 PM] <jemler> jamyl would have to keep his shields transparent.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:33:20 PM] <Shiral> You make them sound like Ninjas, Evie. =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:33:22 PM] <Evie> LOL, Jerusha!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:33:38 PM] <KK> Jerusha, that's part of the reason the Knights of the Anvil intervene: so that RIcheldis isn't taken hostage. And of course, Brion is off to Bremagne to get married.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:34:05 PM] <Jerusha> Like those Knights of the Anvil. I wish we knew more about them
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:34:10 PM] <Shiral> If I were Richeldis, I might be disappointed at not going to my eldest son's wedding...
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:34:40 PM] <jemler> is richeldis especially religious?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:34:42 PM] <Shiral> But duty calls
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:34:42 PM] <Evie> She can take it out on Xenia's widower's hide
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:34:57 PM] <KK> She made the decision. And the longer she waits, the less chance she can get Xenia and her baby back.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:35:08 PM] <Shiral> Sigismond had better hand over the coffins and back away carefully
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:35:18 PM] <jemler> her son will be back to rule.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:35:25 PM] <Jerusha> She can have the joy of meeting Jehana later
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:35:26 PM] <Evie> "Release my daughter and grandchild, and no one will get hurt. Starting with you."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:35:33 PM] <Shiral> And she can scope out her new daughter in law at her leisure
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:36:12 PM] <jemler> "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubble gum."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:36:16 PM] <Evie> Hopefully the dowager queen and her DIL will get along well enough
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:36:29 PM] <Jerusha> Richeldis would have been angry enough at what happened to her daughter. I would not want to stand in her way now
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:36:50 PM] <Evie> No, no, Jemler, it's "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And bubble gum hasn't been invented yet."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:36:50 PM] <Shiral> I know I wouldn't want any Haldanes mad at ME
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:37:14 PM] <jemler> "and i'm not waiting"
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:37:19 PM] <KK> She and Brion both blame themselves, because they, especially Richeldis, insisted that Xenia marry her seducer, to save her honor.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:37:44 PM] <the_Bee> With Xenia and her daughter dead, the only reason Sigismund would hve for keeping their bodies would be as a bargaining chip.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:37:44 PM] <Evie> No. If a Haldane is mad, then you get those narrowed steel gray eyes, the steepled fingers, and the temperature drops 20 degrees. ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:37:46 PM] <Jerusha> But what kind of life did they send her to?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:37:56 PM] <Shiral> Not at all a happy trip, or happy recollections
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:37:58 PM] <TerryOBrien> Those kind of weddings never work out
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:38:25 PM] <TerryOBrien> Don't forget the lowered voice, speaking slowly and distinctly
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:38:30 PM] <KK> Xenia and a potential Haldane heir alive would have been a bargaining chip; the bodies, not so much.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:38:31 PM] <Jerusha> Pity they couldn't have forced Sigismund to stay in Gwynedd
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:38:31 PM] <Shiral> And the Great Hall is suddenly full of snow flurries which tell you you've REALLY messed up. =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:39:32 PM] <Shiral> Pity they invited Sigismund over for any reason
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:39:37 PM] <TerryOBrien> The drop in temperature is pure psychic: its like feeling someone walking over your grave. When the Haldanes are involved, though, they march an entire army across your grave
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:39:45 PM] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:40:06 PM] <KK> brb
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:40:08 PM] <Shiral> Facing an angry Haldane King or Queen would take a brave soul
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:40:40 PM] <Jerusha> Or a foolish one
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:40:48 PM] <Shiral> Or both
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:41:04 PM] <TerryOBrien> Or a desperate one
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:41:42 PM] <Shiral> Count Sigismund may take a look at Richeldis and decide to make BOTH their lives easier. Especially his own
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:42:07 PM] <KK> back
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:42:16 PM] <Evie> Of course, Richeldis isn't a Haldane by birth, but I'm sure life with Donal helped her acquire some of those traits
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:42:19 PM] <Jerusha> It would not surprise me if he never faces her; he just send a delegate
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:42:49 PM] <TerryOBrien> Someone disposable
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[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:43:01 PM] <KK> I'll tell you next week.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:43:08 PM] <Evie> I wonder if Sigismund would have survived his wedding long enough for the wedding night if Donal had still been alive?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:43:15 PM] <Jerusha> Like the hostage in HD
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:43:19 PM] <Shiral> She's been a Queen Consort. A woman in that position knows she has some clout
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:43:59 PM] <Shiral> Donal would have had Sigismund dumped down a well head first
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:44:05 PM] <KK> Oh, yes. And there's nothing to be gained by keeping the bodies, other than pure spite--and can Sigismund afford that?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:44:05 PM] <Evie> "OK, my daughter's been married, so honor is satisfied. Too bad something in the wedding feast disagreed with the man....."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:44:07 PM] <Shiral> If he didn't choose a garderobe instead
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:44:07 PM] <the_Bee> The only clout Sigismund would have would depend on how badly Richeldis wants the bodiesback.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:44:10 PM] <Jerusha> After castration
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:44:53 PM] <Jerusha> With a very dull instrument
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:44:59 PM] <Evie> A violin? ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:45:01 PM] <Shiral> "Have some nice figs, Count Sigismund?"
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:45:16 PM] <TerryOBrien> "Bad dates."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:45:28 PM] <Evie> LOL!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:45:44 PM] <Evie> That needs to be said with a John Rhys-Davies voice
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:45:53 PM] <jemler> meet my pet squirrel!:)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:45:55 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:05 PM] * TerryOBrien tries to affect a John Rhys-Davies voice: "Bad dates".
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:16 PM] <TerryOBrien> IT doesn't translate too well in text
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:25 PM] <jemler> reminds me of high school.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:30 PM] <Shiral> No, it needs the audio effect
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:34 PM] <the_Bee> On the other hand, Brion probably would rather not start a war with Torenth right now.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:49 PM] <Shiral> Brion would not start a war until he had to
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:57 PM] <Evie> I imagine there's no really good time to start a war with Torenth, but on the eve of a wedding is particularly bad, yes.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:46:58 PM] <Jerusha> Not on his wedding night, at least
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:05 PM] <Shiral> I don't think...A reasonable King wouldn't
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:06 PM] <TerryOBrien> Bad luck all around
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:07 PM] <KK> Duke Richard does ask whether he's willing to start a war over this.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:16 PM] <jemler> Terry, when you did the JRD voice, were you imitating Salah or Gimli?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:32 PM] <Shiral> Haldane Uncles are very helpful
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:33 PM] <Evie> That was a Sallah line
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:35 PM] <Jerusha> Does Brion have to think about it, KK?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:48 PM] <TerryOBrien> Sallah
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:47:50 PM] <jemler> i know that, but who was he imitating?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:48:00 PM] <jemler> ok
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:48:14 PM] <Evie> Gimli saying "Bad Dates" just puts one in mind of bearded dwarf women
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:48:25 PM] <TerryOBrien> lol
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:48:40 PM] <KK> I think that's about when Alaric realizes how much this means to the king, and suggests that an expedition go by way of Cynfyn, and pick up an escort of his men there, since some of them know Torenth.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:48:50 PM] <TerryOBrien> He should never have let Legolas set him up with a blind date
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:49:13 PM] <Shiral> "Does she look anything like Galadriel?"
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:49:19 PM] <KK> Ah, these are obviously references to THe Hobbit, which I've not seen yet.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:49:40 PM] <Shiral> More LOTR, since Gimli is not in the Hobbit
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:49:42 PM] <Evie> I juxtaposed those two sentences and wondered when Legolas set Alaric up with a blind date...or was it Brion? ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:49:55 PM] <jemler> lord of the rings. gimli isn't in the hobbit.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:50:17 PM] <KK> Who is Salah, then?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:50:24 PM] <jemler> raiders of the lost ark
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:50:28 PM] <Evie> from Indiana Jones/Raiders of the Lost Ark
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:50:42 PM] <jemler> he was alo in the last crusade
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:50:48 PM] <KK> OK, this is getting too silly for me to follow. ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:50:54 PM] <jemler> also, sorry
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[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:50:58 PM] <Evie> when Indy nearly eats the poisoned dates, Sallah notices the dead monkey and stops him, realizing the dates are bad
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:00 PM] <Shiral> Who us? SILLY?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:04 PM] <Evie> Hence, "Bad dates."
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:06 PM] <Jerusha> Salah was the cool guy with the tattoos?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:08 PM] <TerryOBrien> Right, silly!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:09 PM] <jemler> she peeked.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:22 PM] <Evie> We're thinking in three universes at once, sorry.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:27 PM] <jemler> hat was ardeth bey, the mummy
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:51:36 PM] <KK> Now I remember. I was remembering the "bad dates" line, but not the rest of the context.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:52:01 PM] <Shiral> well, Sigismund turns out to have been a very "bad date" for Xenia
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:52:09 PM] <jemler> jerusha, that was ardeth bey, the mummy
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:52:18 PM] <Evie> I'm quite used to living in many universes at once, so long as none of them are my own. ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:52:32 PM] <Jerusha> Thanks, Jemler
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:52:40 PM] <Evie> yes, I think Sigismund wins a prize for Ultimate Bad Date
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:52:44 PM] <TerryOBrien> I got my fannish writing start writing crossover fanfic, so I am VERY used to it
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:52:45 PM] <jemler> the Kwisatz haderach is here!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:53:05 PM] <Evie> hopefully poor Xenia got at least some little bit of happiness in there between her wedding and her death
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:53:06 PM] <KK> I think he was probably an OK date, especially if he "persuaded" Xenia that he loved her and vice versa. It wasn't his fault that the delivery went bad.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:53:42 PM] <Jerusha> Oh, I think it was his fault
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:54:06 PM] <Jerusha> But he was probably charming
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:54:22 PM] <KK> I was thinking of the delivery of the bab, not the line.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:54:24 PM] <Evie> Well, it's his fault that she was going through childbirth, at least, though she could have had a bad delivery and died even if she'd married under better circumstances.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:54:25 PM] <KK> baby
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:54:26 PM] <jemler> tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:54:57 PM] <Jerusha> Capt Hook, Jemler?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:02 PM] <KK> Yeah, I know, Jemler. Take heart. Original episodes end next week, I believe.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:05 PM] <Shiral> Ssssh.. Jemler
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:15 PM] * jemler hides from everyone
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:16 PM] * Evie smacks jemler with a cod
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:18 PM] <KK> Too late, Shiral.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:29 PM] <Shiral> So is Jehana eagerly looking forward to HER wedding?
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:33 PM] <KK> And I was already aware of the time, so it isn't Jemler's fault.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:55:52 PM] <jemler> i'm still hiding!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:04 PM] <Jerusha> Well, we don't want to lob fish at you, KK!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:04 PM] * Shiral wishes she could reschedule Once Upon a Time. =o)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:11 PM] <KK> But I must away. And I'm eager to get back to the scene with Alaric and Se, after that (and Game of THrones). See you guys next week--and thanks for the medal input!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:13 PM] <Evie> She's marrying a Haldane...of COURSE she's looking forward to that! ;-)
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:33 PM] <DesertRose> Thanks for coming by, KK. Have a good week.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:36 PM] <Jerusha> Bye KK! Good writing!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:36 PM] <Sarah_busy> toodles, KK
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:37 PM] <Shiral> You're welcome. Have a good night of TV and Se time
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:39 PM] <Evie> Goodnight!
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:39 PM] <Shiral> Bye, KK
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:43 PM] <jemler> nite kk
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:47 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:53 PM] <TerryOBrien> Good night
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:56:53 PM] <the_Bee> nighters, KK. Have a good week.
[Sunday, May 05, 2013] [07:57:03 PM] <KK> Nighters, all.
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