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While it wouldn't help the human lords, the obvious way to trick Wencit is to bury memories; Stefan Coram may have spent a large part of those 7 years unaware that he wasn't actually Rhydon.

An interesting idea. However,I don't get that impression of Stefan Coram from the information we getin High Deryni. I think Coram, much like Camber, took advantage of a unique opportunity to impersonate someone else, and accepted the risks as well as the advantages that came with it, while always retaining the consciousness of his true identity.

Melissa


If only Susie were here to comment on that. I'm sure she would have a lot more to say. Someday, on the otherside we will get to hear her thoughts on this subject.


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While it wouldn't help the human lords, the obvious way to trick Wencit is to bury memories; Stefan Coram may have spent a large part of those 7 years unaware that he wasn't actually Rhydon.

An interesting idea. However,I don't get that impression of Stefan Coram from the information we get in High Deryni. I think Coram, much like Camber, took advantage of a unique opportunity to impersonate someone else, and accepted the risks as well as the advantages that came with it, while always retaining the consciousness of his true identity.

Melissa
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You dont have to be the one asking the questions in order to Truth Read. Even when Kelson and Dhugal were found by the group of mountain Servants of Saint Camber after digging out through the graves. They were being questioned by several and also being truth read by others.

That's true.  :)
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You dont have to be the one asking the questions in order to Truth Read. Even when Kelson and Dhugal were found by the group of mountain Servants of Saint Camber after digging out through the graves. They were being questioned by several and also being truth read by others.
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It seems to me that truth reading only really works if one has reason to suspect that the other person is lying and with a rough idea what about. Cinhil had no reason to suspect that Alister Cullen wasn't anything other than he said he was and certainly not Camber.


That is true. Truth Reading has only been used during a questioning time. When one would think that your subject might lie.

I did say that if Cinhil used it he might have caught Camber/Alister. It would depend on what transpired. Since Cinhil would have acted differently than he did in the books had he used his powers more. It would make for an interesting alternate history.

It seems like that isn't always true, that Truth Reading is only used during questioning.  Prince Javan tells Tavis that he just knows when the Regents (and assorted others attached to the court) are lying, even though Javan is not only not questioning them but not really involved in the conversation at all, merely present for it.

That being said, Javan is clearly more sensitive to the Haldane potential than either his father or his brother; Cinhil appears to have actively eschewed the powers, and Alroy is kept too heavily sedated to be able to use them.

But yes, I think had Cinhil had a reason to suspect that Alister was really Camber (at least, before he found out in the last few minutes of his mortal life) and had he been more inclined to use the Haldane powers, he might have figured out the ruse.  Probably best he didn't in that case, but it would have been a lot better for his sons and Gwynedd in general had he applied Truth Reading to the Regents.
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It seems to me that truth reading only really works if one has reason to suspect that the other person is lying and with a rough idea what about. Cinhil had no reason to suspect that Alister Cullen wasn't anything other than he said he was and certainly not Camber.


That is true. Truth Reading has only been used during a questioning time. When one would think that your subject might lie.

I did say that if Cinhil used it he might have caught Camber/Alister. It would depend on what transpired. Since Cinhil would have acted differently than he did in the books had he used his powers more. It would make for an interesting alternate history.
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Kyriell, yes.  It was the name Camber had used when he was in seminary in his youth (Anscom remembers that bit when he's trying to figure out what in the world the abbot of St. Foillan's is talking about regarding Benedict's/Cinhil's disappearance), and he added it to Alister's name during Alister's consecration as Bishop of Grecotha.

Thanks for that! So yes, that is his true name. And since Anscom knew who he was and made him Bishop of Grecotha, the title is True as well. That should be pretty solid. Heck, Camber's 'true' name arguably *was* Alister Cullen, given that the highest religious authority in the land had used it in such a holy ceremony; it would be a lot stronger than a modern deed poll.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by revanne on May 25, 2018, 08:05:29 pm »
Poor Darcy
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Ghosts of the Past
« Last post by Jerusha on May 25, 2018, 02:55:34 pm »
Darcy Cameron leaned on the wall beside the door to Lady Aliset’s room in the infirmary, his arms crossed over his chest in an uncharacteristic position.  He was not one to spend too much time withdrawn into his own thoughts, but he needed to know what was happening and what had happened to cause it.  He was having little success.

He straightened as two women accompanied by guards approached; each was carrying a cloth bundle.    From their dress and bearing, Darcy guessed they were from Duchess Grania’s household. The guard standing across from him on the other side of the door bowed and reached to open the door to let the women in. Darcy seized the opportunity to open the door himself and managed to look inside the room as the two women entered.

Aliset lay sleeping on the cot, resting on her side and curled up into a tight ball.  Duchess Grania, still sitting on the chair beside the cot, gave him a hard look, but when she realized he did not intend to enter the room, she relaxed. 

Darcy bowed respectfully and closed the door.

Darcy was left once again with his own thoughts. He knew Lady Aliset was receiving the best care possible, but her sleeping position on the cot told him all was not well.  And he could do nothing.

It occurred to him suddenly, that he had not seen Lord Jaxom since he and Father Columcil had returned to Rhemuth.  Admittedly, they had only been in the courtyard and the infirmary, but normally Jaxom continually maneuvered to be at Aliset’s side at every opportunity.    If the annoying peacock had been injured or killed, surely Archbishop Duncan would have said something about it. Darcy did not believe Jaxom would have returned to Trillshire this soon.  Where could he be?

“I’ll be back in a moment,” Darcy said to the guard and made his way back to the infirmary’s main door.  He opened it and stepped outside far enough to speak to the guards who still stood at their posts.

“Has anyone come to inquire about Lady Aliset?” Darcy asked.

“No one has come except you and the priest earlier, and the two ladies with guards just now,” one of the guards replied.

Darcy thanked the man and walked thoughtfully back resume his own post outside of Aliset’s door.  Where was Jaxom?  What the hell had happened?

‘You don’t need to stay here,” the guard at the door suggested.

Darcy shook his head.  “Nay, this is where I need to be.”  He paused for a moment.  “Besides, I have no where else to go.”
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by DerynifanK on May 25, 2018, 02:50:08 pm »
I just wondered about the other things, I do realize that you are all busy peopke and I think you are amazing writers. Trying to be patient. Sending you a present of fatigue banishing spells, hope they help.
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