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General / Re: Enjoying the books so far
« Last post by revanne on Today at 02:26:46 pm »
Cinhil's original reluctance is understandable for the reasons Drakensis points out; on the other hand kingship in medieval understanding is a divine calling and Cinhil's hankering after his priesthood often seems to me to be more about self-indulgence than the self-denial demanded by the Gospel. What would it mean for Cinhil to "deny himself and take up his cross." (Mark 8:34)? It could be argued that the self-denial in Cinhil's case is accepting the burden of kingship and the loss of his protected, and in many ways comfortable though austere, life as a monastic priest.

Having said that I think Camber must bear a lot of the responsibility for Cinhil's anger and resentment, which I think he himself comes to acknowledge. Had he been less overbearing and more patient perhaps Cinhil could have adjusted better.
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General / Re: Enjoying the books so far
« Last post by Shiral on Today at 02:07:36 pm »
Cinhil is one of those characters for whom I feel intermittent sympathy combined with considerable impatience. I think Drakensis captured his religious perspective very well. I do have sympathy for Cinhil's having to leave the life he loved and for which he was well suited. I feel deep impatience with Cinhil for continuing to dwell on and sulk over what he lost rather than try to find the positives about what he gained by taking up his secular life. Lots of men can be priests, but only Cinhil  could be the rightful Haldane King and restore the rightful royal line in Gwynedd; a young wife who loved him (I wish KK had shown us WHY Megan loved him more often,) and their three sons. And the acumen Cinhil showed for ruling. And yes, Camber does not handle everything perfectly. It makes both of them more interesting. I believe Camber was strongly motivated by the urgency of getting Imre, whom he knew to be an unfit and uncaring king, off the throne. Yes it could be called Treason from Imre's point of view. I think Camber cared deeply about the people who would suffer under the rule of an unjust and unfit King. Clearly, the Michaelines felt the same way if they were so ready and willing to stake so much on Cinhil, and unknown quantity at the time. 

As for complexity of story line, you're right. In terms of pure plotting, Saint Camber is one of the best books in all the trilogies, IMO. But I don't want to give away any surprises.

Melissa
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by revanne on Today at 01:42:36 pm »
I can understand  why she wanted to go but I am concerned that once they know it's Aliset, they will be distracted  trying to protect her. That could cause problems  for them and for Wash's rescue. Keeping my fingers crossed for all of them.

I think that they have learned to respect Aliset too much for that - and if Darcy starts trying to overprotect Aliset both she and Aliset will set him right. If anything the problem could be the other way round.

Both Aliset and Aliset will?  I know she's a shapeshifter, but does she have multiple personalities on top of that?  ;D

Hopefully not. Make that Columcil instead. :-D
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by Evie on Today at 01:23:54 pm »
I can understand  why she wanted to go but I am concerned that once they know it's Aliset, they will be distracted  trying to protect her. That could cause problems  for them and for Wash's rescue. Keeping my fingers crossed for all of them.

I think that they have learned to respect Aliset too much for that - and if Darcy starts trying to overprotect Aliset both she and Aliset will set him right. If anything the problem could be the other way round.

Both Aliset and Aliset will?  I know she's a shapeshifter, but does she have multiple personalities on top of that?  ;D
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by revanne on Today at 11:25:38 am »
I can understand  why she wanted to go but I am concerned that once they know it's Aliset, they will be distracted  trying to protect her. That could cause problems  for them and for Wash's rescue. Keeping my fingers crossed for all of them.

I think that they have learned to respect Aliset too much for that - and if Darcy starts trying to overprotect Aliset both she and Aliset will set him right. If anything the problem could be the other way round.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by DerynifanK on Today at 09:12:10 am »
I can understand  why she wanted to go but I am concerned that once they know it's Aliset, they will be distracted  trying to protect her. That could cause problems  for them and for Wash's rescue. Keeping my fingers crossed for all of them.
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by Laurna on Today at 03:38:39 am »
I am curious to see just how long the rouse will last. I think Aliset will want to stay truly concealed until they are days way from Rhemuth. (Well, at least one day, that way Darcy won't be so tempted to just turn around and march her pretty little derriere back to the king. LOL)

Truth be known, I am very glad she had rejoined this quest, even if covertly.  :o
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General / Re: Enjoying the books so far
« Last post by drakensis on Today at 01:39:03 am »
I think the reasoning behind Cinhil's anger stems from Mark 8:36: "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

He had a religious vocation and is forced to set this aside for merely material goals. As a priest he swore serious oaths and becoming a king and a father violates them. From his perspective Camber is dragging him into damnation for the sake of Camber's personal goals - and he's inclined to take anything that goes wrong as God punishing him for going along with it.

He's also not a young man - he's 47 years old upon the Restoration, likely closer to the end of his life even by modern standards much less medieval standards. Death and what he'll face then is something he's likely considered. What do wealth and privilege in this world matter in comparison to God's judgement?
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Shiral's FanFic / Re: Kelric's Adventures Chapter 15: Safe Home
« Last post by Shiral on Today at 12:08:09 am »
Thank you all for your kind comments. I'm glad you enjoyed seeing the world from the eyes of a three year-old noble heir again.

Melissa
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Semi Free-Form Deryni Gaming / Re: Out of Character (OOC) Thread
« Last post by revanne on August 13, 2018, 11:02:26 pm »
I think Aliset will want to be well away from Rhemuth before she even considers asking if he perchance brought his purple stole as well....   ;D

After all that has happened, Columcil has his purple stole permanently in place too. He is beginning to feel like a clerical clothes hanger.
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