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KK Chat -- 18 November 2012

Started by DesertRose, November 18, 2012, 07:22:30 PM

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[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:01:53 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:01:55 PM] <DesertRose> Today Florida at least had beautiful weather.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:01:57 PM] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:01 PM] <the_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:02 PM] <jemler> wartm today upin the 60's
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:10 PM] <the_Bee> cool in Boston
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:11 PM] <jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:32 PM] <KK> Hi, gang. We're good--43 right now--but snow forecast for Tuesday, they say.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:43 PM] <DesertRose> Oh fun, KK. Stay warm.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:44 PM] <Alkari> Hi KK
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:02:49 PM] <jemler> KK. Did you notice that Once Upon a Time isn't on tonight?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:02 PM] <KK> I need to get hte leaves from the front yard gathered up before it snows.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:10 PM] <the_Bee> replaced by a music awards show.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:17 PM] <KK> Yes, I think it's finished for a few weeks.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:32 PM] <DesertRose> Raking leaves is such joy. /sarcasm
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:44 PM] <the_Bee> ?? Christmas specials instead?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:48 PM] <DesertRose> I used to really hack my mom off by jumping in the piles of leaves after she'd raked them up.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:54 PM] <KK> I don't rake the leaves. We have someone coming to do it. :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:03:58 PM] <DesertRose> Ah, okay.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:04:10 PM] <jemler> it's easier if you wait for them to fall off the trees! :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:04:12 PM] <Alkari> Sensible. Mum just gets hers piled up and then put through the mulcher
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:04:20 PM] <KK> Didn't grow up raking leaves, so it's outside my experience, other than to hire someone to do it.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:04:30 PM] <KK> Besides, no time for leaf-raking.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:04:36 PM] <Alkari> Snow is outside my experience :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:04:57 PM] <jemler> rake leaves, shovel sidewalks, mow lawns. i grew up dpoing that for money.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:05:08 PM] <KK> It used to be outside mine, but no longer. We sometimes had it in Ireland, and we definitely have it here.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:05:46 PM] <jemler> the Gulf Stream kept Ireland Emerald?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:05:53 PM] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:06:25 PM] <the_Bee> Alkari, are you near the equator?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:06:33 PM] <jemler> in Autralia?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:06:38 PM] <Alkari> No - Sydney is temperate climate and coastal
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:06:57 PM] <the_Bee> I'm surprised you don't have snow then
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:07:20 PM] <DesertRose> Well, they wouldn't this time of year anyway. :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:08:27 PM] <DesertRose> KK, how are the furry family members?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:08:30 PM] <Alkari> No - the night temps here only get to around -5C in mid wonter in inland suburbs, and even then, the place doesn't stayt cold enough to snow. Very occasional snowfalls in the mountains to the west, but basically nothing more than heavy frosts, if that, where I am.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:08:37 PM] <the_Bee> in their winter, I meant.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:08:54 PM] <the_Bee> ah, okay
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:09:21 PM] <KK> Critters are all fine. Yesterday I rescued 2 Bassets and took them on the way to their new foster home. And we had 2 dogs adopted yesterday and today. This is good!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:09:31 PM] <DesertRose> Aw.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:09:37 PM] <DesertRose> Bassets are cute.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:09:51 PM] <the_Bee> Fred Bassett
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:09:57 PM] <DesertRose> My daughter was afraid of dogs when she was very little, and it was a Basset hound that got her over it.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:10:04 PM] <Kelric> heh. I just realized I'm going to need to find my copy of Lammas Night and read through it again. I've been playing a lot of Flames of War (WW2 Miniatures game)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:10:10 PM] <Alkari> they always look as though they need a set of wheels in their midsection!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:10:25 PM] <KK> Yep, they're low to the ground.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:10:40 PM] <jemler> there is a new show (animal planet?) called Too Cute. about puppies/kittens etc.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:11:02 PM] <KK> And the back half doesn't always know what the front half is doing. I tease Booker, that he needs to watch where that caboose is going.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:11:11 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:11:22 PM] <jemler> as he books around the room? :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:11:23 PM] <KK> Backing up can be deadly to toes.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:11:25 PM] <Alkari> Yes - cornering is not their forte!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:11:54 PM] <KK> He's half Basset and half Entlebucher Mountain Dog.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:12:07 PM] <KK> Vry handsome dog!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:12:28 PM] <DesertRose> http://new.livestream.com/accounts/398160/events/1594566/player_pop_up Speaking of cute things, this is a livestream of a "kitten cam," four kittens and their mama. Right now they're all in a heap asleep but when they're awake and playing they're really cute.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:12:36 PM] <the_Bee> Does the Entlebucher half try to climb mountains?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:13:01 PM] <DesertRose> BRB, need to get more tea and check on my supper.
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[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:13:37 PM] <Alkari> Hi CM.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:13:49 PM] <jemler> hi cm, df, jerusha
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:13:54 PM] <DF64> 12hi all
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:02 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hello everyone
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:02 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:05 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Jerusha, CM and DF64
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:25 PM] <KK> No he herds us. Entlebuchers were originally cattle-herding dogs in Switzerland. Related to Bernese.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:26 PM] * Alkari waves at Jerusha and DF
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:32 PM] <jemler> pulled out some old books to read. the Barsoom series by edgar rice burroughs.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:52 PM] <cynicalmedic> My brother has a Berner - his name is Random
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:52 PM] <Alkari> That IS a blast from the past.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:14:53 PM] <Jerusha> I read those
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:15:13 PM] <DF64> 12is everyone ready for thanksgiving?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:15:22 PM] <KK> The Barsoom books are fun. Too bad the John Carter film bombed.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:15:27 PM] <Jerusha> I'll be working
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:15:35 PM] <the_Bee> I'll probably eat at my church.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:15:41 PM] <jemler> yeah, they really screwed that up!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:15:56 PM] <jemler> although the princess was HOT!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:16:02 PM] <Alkari> lol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:16:04 PM] <KK> We're going to a local hotel, that has a wonderful Thanksgiving buffet, then driving immediately to Darkover.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:16:09 PM] <DF64> 12just a 3 day work week for me
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:16:10 PM] <cynicalmedic> I did all my Thanksgiving grocery shopping today, except for the kale and cilantro for the pico de gallo
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:16:43 PM] <KK> Ah, a Mexican Thanksgiving?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:16:45 PM] <cynicalmedic> I will be at Darkover on Saturday - I have to work Friday (grumble)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:16:49 PM] <Jerusha> You're driving after dinner, KK?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:17:07 PM] <cynicalmedic> No, my sister's request - she loves the way DH makes it.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:17:08 PM] <Alkari> I am just frantically painting, sorting and packing china a way so they can move the furniture and install carpets on Wednesday
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:17:10 PM] <KK> Yep, but dinner reservation is actually lunch, at 1230.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:17:27 PM] <the_Bee> good. early start then
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:17:42 PM] <Jerusha> Much better plan
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:17:43 PM] <KK> Yep, which is a good thing, since it's about a 4 hr. drive.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:03 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, back. Wow, hi Jerusha, cynicalmedic, DF64.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:18 PM] <Jerusha> Are you doing a reading at Darkover, KK?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:24 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi, DR - how are you?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:24 PM] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:30 PM] <DF64> 12once upon a time not on tonight--american music awards instead
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:42 PM] <KK> Yes, I know. Boo!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:42 PM] <cynicalmedic> does happy dance
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:48 PM] <Jerusha> Will it be a new one?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:52 PM] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:18:58 PM] <Jerusha> \And???
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:19:03 PM] <DesertRose> I'm doing all right. Hungry and wishing my supper would hurry up and cook already. :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:19:27 PM] <jemler> did you turn on the stove? :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:19:40 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, Evie sends her regards. She's got family dinner stuff going on and probably won't make it.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:19:50 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, jemler. Smart aleck.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:19:51 PM] <KK> Arg, again?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:20:00 PM] <DF64> 12JEMLER!!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:20:02 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, it's that time of year.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:20:05 PM] <jemler> heh heh heh
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:20:28 PM] * DesertRose pelts jemler with a selection of brightly colored koi.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:20:37 PM] <KK> Koi, wow!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:20:53 PM] <jemler> aloha koi, aloha koi
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:20:54 PM] <KK> I like koi.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:08 PM] <the_Bee> what's koi?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:14 PM] <Jerusha> Goldfish
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:15 PM] <DesertRose> There's a Japanese restaurant here that has a koi pond out front.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:17 PM] <jemler> japanese carp
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:35 PM] <the_Bee> ah.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:37 PM] <DesertRose> They're very colorful and pretty.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:50 PM] <Jerusha> And often very bit
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:52 PM] <KK> They often have wonderful fan-tails, and can be mottled colors of gold and white and black.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:21:54 PM] <Jerusha> big
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:22:23 PM] <KK> There's a pond with some that are nearly 2 ft. long, outside our attorney's office.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:22:25 PM] <the_Bee> KK, do you like koi to watch or to eat?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:22:39 PM] <KK> Watching only. THey're not for eating.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:23:13 PM] <KK> Just pretty, and graceful.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:23:24 PM] <the_Bee> Do the cats watch them?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:23:36 PM] <Alkari> Carp are an environmental pest out here, thanks to idiots who released pet carp and European carp into our rivers.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:24:11 PM] <the_Bee> worse than rabbits?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:24:22 PM] <DF64> 12koi can live for about 47 years
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:24:26 PM] <KK> I think they watch. But they weren't interested in a couple of bodies of some that had frozen in the pond, winter before last.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:24:47 PM] <the_Bee> Fish have to be moving to attract cats
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:25:07 PM] <KK> Well, flrozen ones sure don't. ;)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:25:12 PM] <Alkari> my old cat was never interested, even when we had a fishpond
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:25:44 PM] <Alkari> Once she knew that fish = WATER, she lost any interest
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:26:01 PM] <the_Bee> too well fed to need to hunt
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:26:05 PM] <KK> THe dogs drink out of the fountain, but they don't seem to be interested in the fish either. (Most of ours are just goldfish, not koi.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:27:00 PM] <Alkari> We had to put wire mesh over the fishpond, to stop the kookaburras thinking we had installed a snackbar for them.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:27:08 PM] <DF64> 12better for dogs to drink out of a fountain and not a toilet
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:27:13 PM] <Jerusha> Fish to go?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:27:40 PM] <Alkari> Yep. They are 'kingfishers' :D
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:27:56 PM] <KK> We have to watch out for the blue heron that lives over at the park but cruises occasionally to see what people have in their ponds. THey can really wipe out a fish population.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:28:26 PM] <DesertRose> My parents' cat is too spoilt to hunt. :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:28:26 PM] <DF64> 12the pool would have to be too deep for a heron to stand in
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:28:35 PM] <KK> Our pond is too deep, but our back neighbor has a shallower pond, and the heron got all her fish.
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[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:00 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Pol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:02 PM] <DF64> 12hi pol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:03 PM] <Pol> Hi all
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:04 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Pol. :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:06 PM] <Pol> how's life?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:07 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Pol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:11 PM] <Alkari> Hi Pol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:17 PM] <KK> I've heard that there are racoons in the area, and they're certainly good at fishing.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:26 PM] <Pol> hi KK
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:28 PM] <KK> I've never seen one, though, either dead or alive.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:33 PM] <Pol> didn't see you there
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:29:35 PM] <KK> Hi, Pol.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:04 PM] <the_Bee> I've seen a skunk in my back yard.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:07 PM] <Pol> so...have I missed any awesome vic updates?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:10 PM] <Pol> ooh, Bee
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:11 PM] <Pol> ew
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:21 PM] <Pol> that should be "fic" not "vic"
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:24 PM] <Pol> DYAC
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:32 PM] <Jerusha> We had a family of racoon babies that visited on evening
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:30:41 PM] <the_Bee> S/he didn't bother me, I didn't bother him.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:31:20 PM] <the_Bee> Some towns around here have coyote problems.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:31:32 PM] <cynicalmedic> My sister has foxes, wild turkeys, and deer visit her all the time - I just have squirrels.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:31:56 PM] <KK> Coyotes, up there, Bee?!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:02 PM] <DF64> 12florida has sinkholes
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:05 PM] <Pol> we have them here
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:07 PM] <Jerusha> We have them, too
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:17 PM] <Pol> you can hear them on cry here when they've caught a scent
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:26 PM] <the_Bee> some parts of Massachusetts. People are warned to watch their pets,
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:26 PM] <KK> We have squirrels--that rob my bird feeders. I'm looking for a squirrel-proof one if such a thing exists.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:50 PM] <Jerusha> If you find one, KK, let me know
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:32:53 PM] <the_Bee> Coyotes are becoming urbanized.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:33:16 PM] <cynicalmedic> I saw one yesterday - at Lowes. It had a copper roof, and was actually very sturdy
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:33:58 PM] <cynicalmedic> DH was contemplating it, but he has to put up a stronger post to hold it
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:01 PM] <KK> Actually, I saw one today in a Solutions catalog. And I've seen a couple more in another catalog. Need to do some research.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:02 PM] <Alkari> making something squirrel proof would be hard
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:04 PM] <the_Bee> Does hanging the feeder on a wire work?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:25 PM] <Jerusha> No, they can climb or walk on the wire
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:32 PM] <DesertRose> Squirrels are pretty resourceful. :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:46 PM] <Pol> and weevil....they taunt my charlie (dog)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:47 PM] <KK> No, because they climb on it, or jump on it.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:47 PM] <cynicalmedic> Wild Birds Unlimited, had some - oddly, so did Outdoor World
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:34:51 PM] <Alkari> like possums here!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:35:18 PM] <KK> Possums know not to come in our yard now, since Booker caught nd killed that one a month or so agao.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:36:14 PM] <Alkari> Dogs only stop them on the ground though.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:36:33 PM] <KK> Aren't they ground critters?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:36:53 PM] <Alkari> Not ours - they are tree dwellers
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:37:05 PM] <Alkari> And are as acrobatic as squirrels
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:37:28 PM] <the_Bee> In cartoons they dangle from trees by their tails.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:37:31 PM] <Alkari> run along electricity wires, get through the tiniest holes, and so on
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:37:46 PM] <DF64> 12experts at playing dead
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:38:10 PM] <KK> Wow, I had no idea. (I know they play dead. So do blackbirds.)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:38:13 PM] <Alkari> http://www.ozanimals.com/image/albums/australia/Mammal/normal_Nickolay_Tilcheff-BrushTail_04.jpg
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:38:54 PM] <Jerusha> Alkari, are you being invisible?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:06 PM] <KK> What <is> that?!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:23 PM] * bynw peaks into the chat from doing laundry and other stuff
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:28 PM] <DesertRose> Hi bynw.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:33 PM] <Alkari> HGi bynw
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:36 PM] <KK> Hi, Bynw.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:37 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Bynw
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:40 PM] <cynicalmedic> waves to Bynw
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:43 PM] <the_Bee> Hi bynw
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:46 PM] <DF64> 12how's the laundry going
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:50 PM] <Alkari> Trying to post image of possum ...
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:39:59 PM] <bynw> hi everybody
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:40:08 PM] <the_Bee> I saw it, Alkari
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:40:10 PM] <bynw> gotta get a dryer load out
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:40:17 PM] <cynicalmedic> It worked -yours are cuter than ours
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:40:21 PM] <Jerusha> I saw nothihg
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:40:33 PM] <Jerusha> nothing (rented fingers)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:40:56 PM] <Alkari> www.ozanimals.com/image/albums/australia/Mammal/normal_Nickolay_Tilcheff-BrushTail_06.jpg
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:41:06 PM] <Alkari> hmmm ...
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:41:59 PM] <Alkari> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Trichosurus_vulpecula_1.jpg/220px-Trichosurus_vulpecula_1.jpg
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:42:13 PM] <Alkari> This thing does not want to load images...
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:42:54 PM] <KK> Huh, we've got Virginia opossums--different from centeral & south American ones, apparently, though related a looooong time ago.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:43:34 PM] <the_Bee> before the great continent broke up?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:45:39 PM] <Pol> @bynw can you fold mine as well?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:46:23 PM] <bynw> i dont fold it
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:46:38 PM] <bynw> kristen takes care of that
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:46:45 PM] <KK> There are also such things as four-eyed possums--probably with eye-markings above the real eyes, so that when they're asleep, they stil look like they're watching. (Booker has these eye-markings.)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:47:16 PM] <Alkari> Your 'opossums' are not related to our 'possums' though - totally different species
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:48:34 PM] <Alkari> Have you done much writing this week, KK? Left Alaric in any more difficult situations?
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[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:50:41 PM] <Alkari> wb DF
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:50:49 PM] <the_Bee> rehi DF
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:50:53 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12little glitch
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:50:53 PM] <DesertRose> rehi derynifanatic64.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:12 PM] <KK> Good writing week. I was ready to move on to Bremagne, then started wondering whether it should be Alaric who discovers Xenia and her Torenthi lover in flagrante. I'm playing with that idea now.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:13 PM] <Jerusha> rehi, DF64
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:14 PM] <the_Bee> Which of you is the evil twin?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:24 PM] <Alkari> oooh - interesting!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:30 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12both
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:36 PM] <Jerusha> Poor Alaric - how would he deal with that?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:50 PM] <Alkari> Didn't Xenia at one stage think Alaric was ratehr cute?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:51:57 PM] <Pol> Ooh,
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:52:03 PM] <Pol> sounds good.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:52:09 PM] <KK> Call for help! After all, the man is a grown Deryni, and might not take kindly to a Deryni brat interrupting his tryst.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:52:26 PM] <the_Bee> Would a boy of his time age be ignorant about things like that?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:52:38 PM] <Alkari> Not if he has spent time around court ;)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:52:44 PM] <Jerusha> Not that ignorant
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:53:00 PM] <KK> Not at all. He would have seen such things going on in dark corners at most feasts and large gatherings, human nature being what it is.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:53:02 PM] <Alkari> and I think in those days, the facts of life were generally known at a pretty young age anyway
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:54:02 PM] <the_Bee> Yes. It was the Victorians who didn't know where babies came from.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:54:03 PM] <Jerusha> Still, an awkward event to inform your King about
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:54:05 PM] Quit DF64 has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:54:14 PM] <Alkari> And who does he call on for 'help'? :( I don't imagine Brion would be particularly happy ....
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:54:25 PM] <KK> I'm just concerned that if he blows the whistle on a Deryni, that the international incident might escalate so that Brion and family wouldn't want her to marry him, even if he'd violated her.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:54:51 PM] <the_Bee> or even if she wanted to?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:55:08 PM] <KK> Any adult in a position of authority would do, for a start.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:55:10 PM] <Alkari> I thought that you are making it so she 'had'to marry him anyway?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:55:27 PM] <KK> And the man probably wouldn't want to unleash his powers and really start a war.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:55:58 PM] <Alkari> Alaric would have to be careful 'who' he told though
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:56:33 PM] <KK> The queen thinks so. For her, Xena has two choices: marry her seducer (who is, after all, a nobleman in his own country), or take the veil. And as Brion observes, "Can you really picture Xenia as a sister?"
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:56:42 PM] <Alkari> Talk about being in a diplomatic difficulty ...
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:57:03 PM] <the_Bee> Does your plot require them not to marry?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:57:24 PM] <KK> Oh, yes. So she <is> going to marry him. I just have to decide how long they can hang around the court before heading back to Torenth. Talk about awkward family situations....
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:57:41 PM] <the_Bee> I she goes aand lives in his country, that would explain she she hasn't shown up in the earlier novels.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:00 PM] <Alkari> I thought she eventually die sin childbirth anyway?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:00 PM] <KK> She has to marry him--and she dies in childbirth within a year or two.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:06 PM] <Pol> bummer
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:08 PM] <Jerusha> Would she end up cut off from her family?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:14 PM] <Alkari> poor thig
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:18 PM] <Alkari> *thing
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:32 PM] <KK> She be cut off by geography, even if not estranged from them.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:58:46 PM] <Jerusha> Not a good circumstance
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:59:12 PM] <KK> Of oourse, her seducer may have been thinking in terms of getting himself a Haldane heir, even if the child would be far down the food-chain.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:59:32 PM] <Jerusha> Or simply wanting to embarrass the Haldanes
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [07:59:33 PM] <Alkari> Yes, and strategically that might have been a good idea from a Torenthi perspective
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:14 PM] Join Evie has joined this channel (~AndChat@OWIRCN-c56a6346.sub-174-229-1.myvzw.com).
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:19 PM] <Alkari> KK, when does Alaric find out about transfer portals? Is that something that Se tells him or shows him?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:20 PM] <KK> Yep. But the simple explanation is that Sigismund was thinking with parts below the belt, and maybe that it would embarras the Haldanes.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:22 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Evie
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:26 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, there's Evie.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:27 PM] <Evie> Hi
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:32 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Evie
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:34 PM] <KK> Evie, you're here!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:38 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Evie!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:39 PM] * Alkari waves at Evie Who has Escaped.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:42 PM] <jemler> hi ebvie
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:47 PM] <Pol> I've always (sort of a left turn here) felt drawn to the stories of the girls at the end of King Javan's Year
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:48 PM] <Evie> Yes, via phone
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:00:51 PM] <Pol> Hi Evie
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:01:01 PM] <Pol> Trying to remember their names now, but they were twins
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:01:15 PM] <Evie> I'm still at MIL's house
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:01:17 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi evie
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:01:18 PM] <Pol> and the guy one of them marries makes a crude joke of having "been in Kearney" on his wedding night
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:01:30 PM] <KK> Ah, so you've escaped to another room?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:01:39 PM] <DesertRose> Richeldis and Giesele MacLean.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:01:59 PM] <Pol> yes, them!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:02:11 PM] <the_Bee> They weren't twins, were they? The regents had the younger sister killed.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:02:24 PM] <KK> Yes, sisters.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:02:26 PM] <Jerusha> Yes
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:02:26 PM] <DesertRose> They may not have been twins.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:02:39 PM] <Jerusha> I thought they were
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:02:58 PM] <Evie> Still at table but DS and MIL are in basement with DS trying on DH's 70s clothes
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:07 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:12 PM] <KK> Oh, that should be fun!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:13 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12there's an interesting picture
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:15 PM] <Jerusha> Ohmy!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:20 PM] <Pol> according to the genealogy site, not twins
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:23 PM] <Pol> but still
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:28 PM] <Pol> I always felt for richeldis
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:34 PM] <Evie> My son looks like he's on That 70s Show
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:36 PM] <Pol> Evie, that sounds awesome
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:40 PM] <Alkari> LOL Evie - I'd get pics
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:47 PM] <DesertRose> Definitely pics.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:03:57 PM] <KK> Definitely sounds like pictures are in order.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:04:16 PM] <the_Bee> Codex says Giesele born in 905, Richeldis in 904.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:04:30 PM] <Evie> DH is taking some
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:04:32 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12will he look like eric forman or michael kelso
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:04:35 PM] <Pol> yeah the genealogy site says so
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:04:40 PM] <Pol> too
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:05:10 PM] <Evie> Eric, DF. Red hair.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:05:18 PM] <KK> (The kittens are pu and playing.)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:05:31 PM] <KK> up
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:05:33 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, on the kitten cam?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:05:37 PM] <KK> Yes
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:05:50 PM] <Jerusha> Kittens, or cats?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:05:58 PM] <Pol> kitten cam?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:06:17 PM] <DesertRose> http://new.livestream.com/accounts/398160/events/1594566/player_pop_up
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:06:20 PM] <DesertRose> Kitten cam.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:06:21 PM] <KK> Two of them look like baby Gus.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:06:34 PM] <Pol> awww
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:06:49 PM] <DesertRose> Mama cat is in there somewhere, but I don't see her right now.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:06:57 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12very cute
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:07:27 PM] <Alkari> I like the little pale ginger one lurking in the background.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:07:34 PM] <cynicalmedic> I like that little black and white one
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:07:49 PM] <Pol> i'm partial to gingers, being a ginger
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:07:49 PM] <DesertRose> The black and white one is the only non-ginger in the litter.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:07:59 PM] <Evie> Whose new kitties?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:08 PM] <DesertRose> No idea. A friend of mine linked it and had no idea either.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:13 PM] <Alkari> Pretty markings on the black and white
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:37 PM] <DesertRose> Mama cat is a very pretty calico.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:42 PM] <bynw> i come back to kitties on a cam
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:42 PM] <Pol> i'm off. time for more cold medicine
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:47 PM] <bynw> fantastic!!!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:50 PM] <Pol> good night all, nice chatting with you.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:54 PM] <DesertRose> Night, Pol.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:08:57 PM] <KK> I love tuxedo cats, too. Have had 3 of them, all sadly passed now. THe pale ginger one is also pretty.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:09:03 PM] Part Pol has left this channel.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:09:07 PM] <KK> Night, Pol.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:09:11 PM] <Alkari> Night pol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:09:12 PM] <Jerusha> Hope your cold is better, Pol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:09:44 PM] <Alkari> The pale ginger one likes to think about things before he/she launches into attack!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:09:48 PM] <Evie> Night Pol
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:10:13 PM] <Jerusha> Kittens or puppies, I like them all
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:11:20 PM] <cynicalmedic> I was trying to see if the eagle cam for Blackwater was up yet, but they haven't turned it on yet
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:11:45 PM] <DesertRose> I like puppies too, but I'm more a cat person than a dog person.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:12:55 PM] <Alkari> Yes, if I was able to have a pet here, I'd have a cat rather than a dog.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:13:06 PM] <Alkari> Though I love dogs.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:13:26 PM] <Evie> Oh, CM, btw I got the beads! One of my modern dolls wears the pink bracelet as a necklace, but I hope to make stuff for miniDeryni with it soon
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:14:06 PM] <the_Bee> I love other prople's friendly dogs, but I don't want the responsibility. Cars are better for apartments.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:14:23 PM] <cynicalmedic> I'm glad you got them. I found a vendor at the local flea market I need to check out for you, too - endless dolls and doll parts.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:14:33 PM] <KK> I
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:14:50 PM] <KK> I've started looking at my local charity shops.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:14:57 PM] <the_Bee> cats, not cars
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:15:08 PM] <cynicalmedic> I saw those red ones, and instantly thought of something for Araxie
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:15:17 PM] <Alkari> Trouble is, the dogs I like are all big dogs - they don't go in apartments anyway
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:15:21 PM] <bynw> those kittens are so cute
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:15:26 PM] <bynw> i just want to grab them
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:15:29 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:15:30 PM] <Jerusha> What size beads? Seed beads?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:15:41 PM] <Evie> If they have Liv dolls, I'm transferring my ladies to those bodies because they pose better
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:16:04 PM] <Evie> Seed beads, mainly
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:16:21 PM] <Jerusha> Sister Evie's home for wayward doll parts. :D
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:16:28 PM] <cynicalmedic> I'll look - I was rushing yesterday,because I had to work a double shift at the squad
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:16:50 PM] <the_Bee> Are you on or off call now, CM?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:05 PM] <Alkari> Home for wayward dolls, more like it!
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:13 PM] <cynicalmedic> Off until next Saturday
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:17 PM] <Alkari> I mean, the positions she puts some of them in ...
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:22 PM] <Jerusha> Nice, CM
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:26 PM] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:40 PM] <Jerusha> Or sticks she puts the heads on..
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:41 PM] <cynicalmedic> The joys of senority
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:17:43 PM] <the_Bee> compromising positions?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:18:19 PM] <cynicalmedic> I also found some horses - do you need more of those, Evie?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:18:34 PM] <Evie> Yeah, that "bishop's blessing" pose was from a very unfortunate angle.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:18:49 PM] <DesertRose> This is becoming a community-wide project, Evie's action-figures. :)
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:18:57 PM] <KK> LOL. Speaking of which, I have to go back to putting folk at the Rhemuth court into compromising positions. May or may not be home in time from Darkover to chat next week.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:18:58 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:D
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:19:16 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12enjoy darkover
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:19:16 PM] <Alkari> Oh, sounds good KK - both activities.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:19:26 PM] <the_Bee> We'll be glad to see you if you make it, KK
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:19:27 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hope to see you at Darkover, KK. I will be there on Saturday.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:19:27 PM] <Alkari> Yes, have a good tie there. What are you reading?
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:19:39 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, KK, happy writing, happy Darkover, happy Thanksgiving, and have a good week (or two)!.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:19:44 PM] <Evie> YES! If they are Marx or 1:6 Breyer, but most Breyer horses are too small
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:07 PM] <KK> Happy Turkey Day to all--and yes, CM, see you Saturday.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:22 PM] <DesertRose> Mama kitty is in the kitten cam.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:26 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12to you too
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:31 PM] <Evie> Happy T"day
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:31 PM] <cynicalmedic> Happy Thanksgiving, KK
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:31 PM] <the_Bee> Happy Thnksgiving to you all
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:34 PM] * KK steps onto her POrtal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:42 PM] <Jerusha> Have a great week, KK
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:42 PM] <KK> Nighters.
[Sunday, November 18, 2012] [08:20:45 PM] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: ).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)