KK Chat -- 23 Sept 2012 Part 1

[DesertRose]

[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:05:52 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:05:57 PM] <Evie> hello, KK
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:03 PM] <DesertRose> Hi KK.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:04 PM] <Tieg> Pneumonia? I just put together my sonic screwdriver (10th Doctor, of course), maybe a burst of that will help?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:04 PM] <Shiral> Hello, Katherine
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:16 PM] <jemler> i had a test in an algebra class. one of the questions was written on the board, complete with answer! only about 5 people saw it!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:17 PM] <DesertRose> How goes things, KK?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:17 PM] <Pol> Hello Katherine, nice to "meet" you here
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:18 PM] <jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:18 PM] <cynicalmedic> hi KK
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:19 PM] <Evie> And again we've not even put ice cream at the four quarters yet
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:23 PM] <Audrey> Hi KK
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:25 PM] <Tieg> Hi Katherine
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:36 PM] * Shiral hastily sets up the Sunday Sundae Bar
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:36 PM] <Evie> ;p[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[n
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:44 PM] <Evie> Sorry, that's Luke's hi
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:44 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Luke.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:51 PM] <KK> Ah, Luke?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:06:54 PM] * jemler pours blackberry brandy
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:07:04 PM] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:07:07 PM] <Evie> He was sniffing the screen earlier, looking for you, KK. ;-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:07:14 PM] <Shiral> My pygmy lions are finishing their suppers
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:07:33 PM] <Evie> now he's helpfully settled down on top of the mouse
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:07:34 PM] <jemler> how bout that! even the pets miss you, KK!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:07:55 PM] <Evie> fortunately I don't type with the mouse
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:05 PM] Join the_Bee has joined this channel (~the_Bee@OWIRCN-5dcf5375.ma.comcast.net).
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:09 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Bee.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:13 PM] <Evie> hi Bee
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:17 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Bee
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:19 PM] <Tieg> Hi Bee
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:25 PM] <Audrey> Hi Bee
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:26 PM] <Evie> So, any new news re: Alaric and Brion this week?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:30 PM] <the_Bee> Hi DR and CM and Tieg
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:30 PM] <Shiral> How has your week been, KK? Hi Bee
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:43 PM] <KK> Hello and welcome, Pol.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:44 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Shiral and Hi KK
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:49 PM] <Pol> Thanks, KK
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:08:53 PM] <jemler> hi bee
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:09:03 PM] <the_Bee> hi jemler and all
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:09:42 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, Evie, I finally opened up Scrivener and started fooling with it. Right now I'm getting 1366 situated, but actual writing on said will probably commence soonish.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:09:50 PM] <Evie> Huzzah!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:09:55 PM] <DesertRose>
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:09:55 PM] <Evie> How do you like working in Scrivener so far?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:00 PM] <DesertRose> Love it.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:12 PM] <the_Bee> Scrivener?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:14 PM] <Evie> I love the virtual notecards for arranging scenes and ideas
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:20 PM] <DesertRose> It's a computer program for writers, Bee.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:38 PM] Join derynifanatic64 has joined this channel (Mibbit@F8E647.70AEDE.F99969.D437C6).
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:41 PM] <Shiral> Where can it be found? Scrivener, I mean
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:45 PM] <Evie> Hi, DF64
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:46 PM] <DesertRose> Not exactly a word processor.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:46 PM] <the_Bee> Hi DF
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:48 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi DF
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:49 PM] <DesertRose> Hi derynifanatic64.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:51 PM] <Shiral> Hi DF
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:52 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi everyone
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:10:55 PM] <DesertRose> literatureandlatte.com, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:01 PM] <Evie> http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:06 PM] <DesertRose> Evie, GMTA.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:17 PM] <Evie> There's a Mac and a Windows version. I use the Windows version
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:18 PM] <Pol> celtx is pretty good too, and it's a freebie
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:29 PM] <Shiral> I'll have to check it out after chat. This summer I've been much more concentrated on Art than writing
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:30 PM] <KK> I like pieces of paper. Maybe if I had a second monitor, where extra stuff could spill over....
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:42 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12 1 week to new episodes of "Once Upon A Time"!!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:42 PM] <Evie> It's also somewhat cross-compatible with MS Word. I've transferred stuff I started in Word into Scrivener and completed it in that.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:52 PM] <Tieg> Hi DF
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:11:54 PM] <DesertRose> I like paper for writing poetry, but I tend to do prose on the computer.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:09 PM] <Pol> I envy those who are good at poetry. I just...don't get it.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:19 PM] <DesertRose> I don't know that I'm any good at it per se.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:21 PM] <Pol> I always end up sliding into the Land o'limerick
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:24 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:30 PM] <KK> Oh, I mostly write on the computer, but notes and charts have to go on paper.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:30 PM] <Evie> I lose pieces of paper, but Scrivener has a feature that's like a bunch of index cards you can put notes on and then rearrange at will. Or you can rearrange whole scenes also
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:37 PM] <the_Bee> I get finger-cramps when I write on paper. And it's illegible.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:43 PM] <Shiral> Pol, you and me both. Poetry makes my brain seize up!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:12:48 PM] <KK> But you can't see all those notes at the same time.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:05 PM] <DesertRose> My handwriting is okay, except that it has a few earmarks of starting calligraphy at age 8, so some people find it hard to read.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:07 PM] <Evie> Bee, that's my problem too. I can't read my handwriting
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:26 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12just like doctors and lawyers
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:33 PM] <Shiral> I can write legibly.... if I concentrate
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:48 PM] <Evie> KK, I know Scrivener will let you view two documents in split screen, so I have my writing in one half and pull up notes in the other. But for additional notes, I use Dropbox.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:49 PM] <cynicalmedic> Doctors use EMR now - makes life much easier.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:54 PM] <DesertRose> Actually, doctors don't have to worry about it as much as they used to.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:13:57 PM] <Pol> on my iPad I used "Index Card" which is great for storyboarding. My last manuscript was written mostly in Pages then sent to my home base computer for final polishing in MS Word.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:14:02 PM] <DesertRose> Yup, CM, that's where I was going.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:14:07 PM] <Shiral> BRB, need to check on my lunch
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:14:07 PM] <Pol> Mostly because my editor hates Pages
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:14:10 PM] <Evie> So I still have bunches of stuff "scattered" around as I write, but they're just not on paper.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:14:21 PM] <Shiral> I should try that, since I have a handy iPad..
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:15:07 PM] <KK> But you have to be able to <find> them. I have too many to use on a computer.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:15:08 PM] <cynicalmedic> I use Evernote on my phone, if an idea happens to occur
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:15:46 PM] <KK> My phone is still just a phone.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:15:57 PM] <bynw> evernote is a handy system if you are prone to writing notes all the time, as are several other note taking apps for phones/ipads/computers of all types
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:15:59 PM] <Shiral> Back but having to fend off the cat with my fork
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:05 PM] <DesertRose> Same here, KK, although I'm no Luddite. I'm just a little underfunded for a smartphone.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:12 PM] <Evie> Just depends on how they're organized. I can find anything electronic if I organize it right. And the cats can't helpfully "file" it under the desk or under the couch for me.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:15 PM] <DesertRose> Hi bynw.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:24 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Evie.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:24 PM] <Shiral> Hiyas Bro
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:42 PM] <Evie> My computer is much better organized than my house. Sadly.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:42 PM] <Shiral> I'm not about to shell out for an iPhone.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:44 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Bynw
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:16:58 PM] <DesertRose> I would get a smartphone when I can afford one.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:00 PM] <Shiral> Houses are supposed to be ORGANIZED???
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:10 PM] <Evie> yeah, I know, right Shiral? Heresy.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:33 PM] <Shiral> You're in big trouble with Loris, Evie!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:37 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:43 PM] <KK> Desks are supposed to be...but often they aren't. Today I filed a bunch of business ickiness.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:49 PM] <cynicalmedic> I have an Android - something I didn't know I needed until I got it. My husband is a tech guy, and some of it has rubbed off, I guess
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:51 PM] <Evie> It does help to be able to walk through a room without tripping, though, which at the moment I can't, since there is a speedbump in the form of my DS sleeping in the middle of the corridor for some odd reason
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:17:58 PM] <DesertRose> My computer is organized to within an inch of its life.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:18:21 PM] <DesertRose> Why is your son sleeping in the corridor? Why isn't he in his bed or on the couch?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:18:36 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12too tired to make it to bed
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:18:39 PM] <Evie> I have no idea, DR. I woke up from a nap and nearly tripped over him when coming in here to get to the computer
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:18:42 PM] <DesertRose> I guess.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:18:47 PM] <DesertRose> Oh dear.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:18:48 PM] <the_Bee> I put stuff on mty desktop for fear I'll forget about it otherwise.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:18:48 PM] <Shiral> I keep buying stuff at office supply places, and keep ending up with three-decker clutter!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:19:09 PM] <Evie> I think he was listening to some podcast DD was playing earlier, so curled up on the floor near where she was sitting (at this computer), and then he fell asleep
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:19:14 PM] <DesertRose> Oh.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:19:55 PM] <the_Bee> It's nice to be able to drop off just like that.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:20:00 PM] <Evie> I need to resort my project cubicles too. I just bought them a couple of months ago and they're already filled to capacity
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:20:39 PM] <KK> Yeah, the containers in which to organize stuff can be as much of a burden as not being organized.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:20:43 PM] <Shiral> Hey, little Deryni take up a lot of space. =o)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:20:50 PM] <Evie> If I fall asleep on the floor, I'd need heavy equipment to haul my creaky body into an upright position again. I'd be too sore to get up on my own.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:01 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:D
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:10 PM] <Shiral> I can get into a lot of trouble at Ikea with all the home office stuff they sell
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:11 PM] <Evie> You have no idea, Shiral. Little Deryni are taking over my world!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:30 PM] <DesertRose> I can get in a lot of trouble in OfficeMax.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:39 PM] <cynicalmedic> Or the Container Store
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:48 PM] <Shiral> There too, DR. It's my Evil Twin Martha's fault
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:49 PM] <Evie> yeah, I have to use the buddy system in OfficeMax or Staples or I'll come out with too much stuff
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:21:51 PM] <KK> I need to make a pilgrimage to Ikea one of these days--after the book is finished. We discovered them in Edinburgh when we were living in Ireland.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:22:23 PM] <KK> Container Store is also a dangerous place. Even Staples is dangerous. I'm an office supply junkie.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:22:30 PM] <DesertRose> Me too, KK.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:22:32 PM] <Shiral> A "pilgrimage" is about the right word, KK. I always spend at least 2 hours in there, and feel like I should spread bread crumbs to mark my path. =o)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:22:36 PM] <cynicalmedic> I like Ikea - there is one close by, thankfully.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:22:52 PM] <Shiral> Or that I'm going to meet the Swedish Minotaur at any moment
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:22:54 PM] <Pol> I love that Ikea products come with tools!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:22:55 PM] <DesertRose> I've never actually been in an Ikea store. There's probably one in my city.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:23:01 PM] <cynicalmedic> I am addicted to craft stores, too.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:23:13 PM] <DesertRose> Oh yeah, craft stores are dangerous places for me.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:23:39 PM] <Shiral> I like Ikea, too. Several furniture items in my apartment are from Ikea. But it just gives me a place to cram my clutter-- I can't ever seem to completely get rid of it
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:23:42 PM] <Evie> I need to go back across town to Hobby Lobby. I think that's where DH got my ornamental wooden trim that I need more of
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:03 PM] <DesertRose> I bought the material for my Princess Leia belt at Hobby Lobby.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:06 PM] <the_Bee> I bought beginner's crochet supplies on-line. I still haven't used them.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:10 PM] <Shiral> Craft stores. if I get out the door for under $20.00 it's a bloomin' miracle
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:34 PM] <DesertRose> The only reason I can get out of Michael's for less than $20 is if I don't HAVE $20 to spend.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:35 PM] <KK> Michael's.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:38 PM] <Evie> If I simply get out the door, it's a bloomin' miracle
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:52 PM] <the_Bee> It's hard to translate the instructions into left-handed.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:24:59 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, are you a lefty, Bee?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:25:00 PM] <Shiral> Yup.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:25:04 PM] <the_Bee> Yes
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:25:12 PM] <Evie> In our area, Hobby Lobby carries a much better assortment than Michael's. Michael's is great at stocking everything except for the one item I went in there looking for.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:25:31 PM] <DesertRose> I got myself in trouble with my lefthanded aunt one time, because I had injured my right hand and was complaining about having to function lefthanded.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:25:59 PM] <Shiral> I can find things in Micheal's/Ikea/Office Stores that I had no idea I needed until I saw them. =o)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:04 PM] <DesertRose> She asked me, indignantly, what was wrong with being lefthanded. I said, "Nothing if you are lefthanded. Trying to function lefthanded when you're righthanded is a pain."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:09 PM] <Evie> uh oh, DR, I can imagine that conversation going downhill in a hurry.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:14 PM] <jemler> i call my sister a left-handed blond when i want to pick on her!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:19 PM] <DesertRose> No, after I said that, she laughed.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:21 PM] <Pol> lefties are awesome! (ahem)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:27 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12throwing a frisbee is the only thing I do left-handed
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:29 PM] <Shiral> Dhugal would agree
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:38 PM] <DesertRose> I know a lot of them. It's supposed to be a rare trait, but I know rather a fair few.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:43 PM] <jemler> clapping is the only thing i do leftie!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:26:54 PM] <cynicalmedic> I also like second hand stores - my husband didn't until I found Silver Surfer 1 in the local one/
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:03 PM] <Evie> I'm right-handed, but am slightly ambidextrous because I used to spend time practicing doing things with my left hand when I was young
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:09 PM] <DesertRose> Secondhand stores rock. I love me a thrift store.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:11 PM] <Evie> like writing
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:14 PM] <Shiral> I once saw a bumper sticker that said "HIre the left handed: it's fun to watch them try to write."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:26 PM] <jemler> lol
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:40 PM] <DesertRose> I am semiambidextrous too, because I'm a klutz and have injured my right hand enough times that I've had to learn to function lefthanded a few times.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:40 PM] <Pol> I have one that says, "In the beginning, the world was left-handed, but a few of us overcame that handicap"
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:40 PM] <the_Bee> Once I burned my left hand. At work someone said it was lucky is was my left hand, but then she added "unless you're left-handed."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:27:55 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:D
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:28:11 PM] <Shiral> When it comes to burning/ cutting myself, I'm pretty ambidextrous. I can get injured anywhere
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:28:14 PM] <KK> Thrift stores are, indeed, good!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:28:22 PM] <Evie> Gigi has come to investigate chat. She's keeping a wary eye on me because she knows she's still in trouble for kneading little divots into my Kindle cover.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:28:27 PM] <the_Bee> "If the right brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handed people are in their right minds."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:28:42 PM] <DesertRose> I saw a coffee mug one time that said, "If the left side of the brain controls the right side of the body and the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefthanded people are in their right mind."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:28:54 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, GMTA, Bee.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:07 PM] Join Jerusha has joined this channel (Mibbit@OWIRCN-e61a4395.dsl.bell.ca).
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:08 PM] <the_Bee> You quoted the full version.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:11 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:11 PM] <jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:12 PM] <Evie> hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:14 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:17 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:17 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi jerusha
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:30 PM] <jemler> that just proves that everybody is built backwards!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:41 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Everyone! I was late because we were celebrating a son's birthday
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:49 PM] <DesertRose> Ah, happy birthday to him!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:29:53 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12happy birthday to your son
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:01 PM] <Jerusha> Many thanks!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:04 PM] <KK> Sons should have good birthday celebrations. Daughters, too.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:12 PM] <the_Bee> I use scissors right-handed. I grew up before left-handed scissors were invented.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:17 PM] <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:18 PM] <Evie> Happy birthday to your DS! My DD just turned 15 this past Wed. also
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:22 PM] <DesertRose> My daughter had a recent birthday, and she seems to have enjoyed it.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:28 PM] <Tieg> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:37 PM] <Jerusha> My son turned 26
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:43 PM] <DesertRose> My daughter just turned 20.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:50 PM] <cynicalmedic> My niece's birthday is coming up - she will be seven
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:54 PM] <DesertRose> Aw.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:30:56 PM] <the_Bee> My niece's birthday was yesterday. I sent her a message on Facebook.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:00 PM] <DesertRose> Seven-year-olds are cute.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:20 PM] <KK> THey do have birthdays when you feed them.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:23 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:30 PM] <Evie> It's amazing how that happens.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:39 PM] <Shiral> And if you don't feed them, they stand around looking pitiful.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:41 PM] <DesertRose> I bought my daughter this t-shirt she's been coveting for a while.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:41 PM] <Evie> and it happens at least once a year
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:31:47 PM] <Jerusha> I'm still feeding them, occasionally
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:32:08 PM] <KK> I know Evie feeds hers, because I saw it happen at Dragoncon. :-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:32:11 PM] <Jerusha> What t-shirt?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:32:13 PM] <DesertRose>
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:32:18 PM] <Evie> birthdays, that is, not them standing around looking pitiful when you don't feed them. They do that several times a week, hoping I'll cook so they don't have to.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:32:28 PM] <DesertRose> This one. http://www.thespaceshop.com/itonroscash.html
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:32:29 PM] <cynicalmedic> We bought Mathea a jewelry box - she asked for one
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:33:02 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12cool shirt
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:33:07 PM] <Evie> Yes, KK, that was called "We have been given money to buy food with, but since we want to spend it on fun stuff, we'll hit Mom up for a meal whenever she's in Food Court so we can pocket our cash." ;-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:33:09 PM] <Jerusha> Clever, DR
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:33:30 PM] <Jerusha> Children learn fast
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:33:46 PM] <DesertRose> She's a math genius, hoping to major in either physics or aeronautics.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:33:51 PM] <Shiral> They're born economists. =o)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:03 PM] <Shiral> And the Bank of Mom is too Big to Fail.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:04 PM] <KK> Yes, they were very clever about that---and polite, as I recall.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:18 PM] <Evie> They have their moments, KK.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:37 PM] <Evie> They're mostly well behaved, except when they aren't.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:42 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:43 PM] <Jerusha> Mine are always polite around everybody else.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:52 PM] <Evie> Exactly, Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:34:52 PM] <Shiral> I imagine Kenneth could say that about Alaric
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:35:15 PM] <DesertRose> It's the nature of kids. They behave beautifully for everybody BUT their parents.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:35:16 PM] <Jerusha> Duncan may have had his moments, too
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:35:18 PM] <cynicalmedic> Alaric strikes me as one whose favorite word is "Why?"
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:35:32 PM] <Jerusha> Or why not?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:35:46 PM] <Evie> I'm sure Duncan and Alaric were a handful, especially when together.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:35:47 PM] <Shiral> "Why do I have to go to a boring Mass on a beautiful day? I just went to Mass last WEEK!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:35:48 PM] <KK> He's gotten to the age now (10) where he's learned to mostly shut up and observe and learn.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:16 PM] <the_Bee> a good survival skill
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:19 PM] <Jerusha> Mine never learned that
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:19 PM] <KK> Fortunately, he has some friends to bounce things off.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:20 PM] <DesertRose> Yup.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:37 PM] <Shiral> And to teach him to speak Torenthi
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:44 PM] <Evie> LOL, Jerusha! I was about to say Alaric must not have ADHD, because mine were older than 10 before any of that sank in as a good idea.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:46 PM] <Jerusha> Which friends now, KK?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:36:55 PM] <Pol> I'm the "book aunt" in the family. I give books on all the birthdays.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:37:08 PM] <DesertRose> I was the book cousin when my cousins were little.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:37:09 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12the big 1-0
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:37:17 PM] <KK> Books are excellent presents.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:37:36 PM] <Shiral> Agreed
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:37:39 PM] <the_Bee> In my family it's hard to know what they've already read.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:37:47 PM] <DesertRose> I gave one of my cousins an illustrated version of the Nun's Priest's Tale out of Chaucer.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:37:58 PM] <Pol> Okay, I have to absolutely cut this short, and I'm not thrilled about that. I have to plan lessons and do another breathing treatment. Thankfully the pneumonia is mostly gone.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:02 PM] <KK> True. And when they get to a certain age, it's hard to know what they're interested in from day to day.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:09 PM] <DesertRose> Oh dear, Pol. Feel better.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:23 PM] <Jerusha> Glad it's getting better, Pol
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:25 PM] <Shiral> Breathing is pretty important, yes
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:26 PM] <KK> Yike, so it's you who has pneumonia.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:29 PM] * the_Bee sends healing woodgies to Pol.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:29 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12keep getting better
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:30 PM] <Shiral> But baby yourself
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:34 PM] <Pol> it helps when all I did last week was sleep!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:36 PM] <Pol> it was crazy!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:39 PM] * Shiral sends Rhys Thuryn
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:41 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12sleep is good
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:42 PM] <cynicalmedic> Feel better, Pol.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:43 PM] <Evie> When my son was learning to read, I told him that books were like magic in that they can take your mind to different worlds, and every book was like a door to a different place. I didn't think he'd remember that, but when he became a more fluent reader--in 3rd grade, I think while reading LOTR--he came back and said "Do you remember telling me about books being like magic doors? You were right."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:50 PM] <Pol> ooh, Rhys is coming?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:52 PM] <Pol> I'll wait!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:38:57 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:16 PM] <Shiral> I'm sending Rhys to you to improve lung function, Pol
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:19 PM] <Jerusha> He said that in third grade, Evie?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:24 PM] <Evie> Yep
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:25 PM] <DesertRose> It is so gratifying when kids come to you and say "You were right."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:31 PM] <Pol> G'night all. See you next week.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:33 PM] Part Pol has left this channel.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:33 PM] <Jerusha> I'm still waiting
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:34 PM] <Evie> I'm not sure I've heard it much since then, DR
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:42 PM] <Evie> Drat..meant to say bye to Pol
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:44 PM] <DesertRose> You'll hear it again once they're grown.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:45 PM] <Shiral> I was always so disappointed not to find Narnia in my closet at home..
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:39:57 PM] <Evie> Yeah, I looked in a lot of wardrobes.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:05 PM] <DesertRose> Get through adolescence and let them get a taste of grownup life.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:19 PM] <jemler> looking for the passage to Narnia?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:20 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12at least Once Upon A Time will be brand new next week
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:36 PM] <Shiral> Yup. Unfortunately, all I saw were a lot of boring closets
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:47 PM] <KK> It isn't on tonight, is it?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:52 PM] <Evie> Oh, KK, if you look at the OT board on the forum, you'll notice it's been split up into smaller sections. One is "Messages for Katherine." Nothing new is in there, but I point it out in case you hadn't seen it.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:58 PM] <DesertRose> I didn't know anybody who had a closet or wardrobe of fur coats.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:40:59 PM] <Jerusha> The Emmys are on tonight
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:41:08 PM] <cynicalmedic> I kept hoping for the tollbooth kit to arrive
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:41:09 PM] <KK> BRB
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:41:12 PM] <Shiral> Not anymore!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:41:20 PM] <the_Bee> I didn't meet Narnia till I was grown up. What I saw in my closet was a monster.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:41:27 PM] <Shiral> Dom Emrys gives out awards??
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:41:37 PM] <Jerusha> Only to a chosen few
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:41:43 PM] <Evie> I had to create "monster repellant" when my kids were younger and had nightmares
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:42:01 PM] <Evie> I found some raspberry scented body spritzer and would spray that in their rooms so they could go back to sleep
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:42:28 PM] <Evie> it was great until I ran out and had no idea where to find more (it was a Christmas gift). But I eventually found something similar.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:42:36 PM] <DesertRose>
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:42:40 PM] <DesertRose> BRB myself.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:43:33 PM] <KK> Back. Had to go rescue Warner. Sometimes Booker decides to be the stair troll, and won't let Warner come back ionto the house.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:43:44 PM] <Evie> LOL! Poor Warner.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:43:51 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:(
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:43:52 PM] <Shiral> "Raspberries?!!! Oh NO!!" and the Monsters go gallopping away....
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:44:01 PM] <cynicalmedic> My cat does that to my little dog
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:44:39 PM] <Shiral> Dmitri has turned into a bully. SOmetimes I swear Francesca is trying to tell me I should take him back to the Humane Society for a refund.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:45:17 PM] <Evie> Funny, DD probably hopes I'll turn DS in to the Humane Society.... ;-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:45:22 PM] <KK> Wish I'd know that when I was young. If only I'd known that reaspberries were monster repellent--or growlie repellent, in my world. That's what my sister and I used to call the things that lived in the closet.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:45:42 PM] <cynicalmedic> The only four legged creature the cat will not try to intimidate is the ferret. I sometimes think she would even challenge my sister's draft horse
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:45:56 PM] <Evie> It worked great! I would spritz the air once, and the smell would linger. They thought it was really effective.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:45:57 PM] <bynw> i just learned how to lucid dream to take care of nightmares myself
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:46:13 PM] <Evie> Yeah, I used to dream I was "changing the channel" on my dreams
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:46:34 PM] <cynicalmedic> I only have nightmares if I am overstressed - and they are always the same.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:46:46 PM] <KK> It wasn't nightmares. I almost never have those. But the growlies lived in the closet, or sometimes hung out in the big Australian pines that were in the back too corners of the back yard.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:47:21 PM] <KK> two
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:47:24 PM] <Shiral> Yes, Evie, but I'll bed your DS doesn't chase your DD under the furniture...
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:47:38 PM] <Evie> Only because she wouldn't fit, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:47:46 PM] <Evie> Chase, yes.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:47:54 PM] <Jerusha> It's the thought that counts
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:47:58 PM] <Evie> they're almost as bad as the cats are
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:48:17 PM] <Evie> the 9:00 crazies don't just apply to the cats in this household
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:48:23 PM] <Shiral> I'm not the person to remember dreams I have when asleep, good or bad
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:48:30 PM] <the_Bee> One of my brother's three cats bullies another one. He keeps their food bowls separate.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:48:44 PM] <Evie> If something is ricocheting down the hallway walls, I can tell by the sound if it's the cats chasing each other or the children
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:04 PM] <Shiral> I do kind of hope it sounds different, Evie. =o)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:11 PM] <DesertRose> I used to have nightmares about driving over a certain bridge in my city.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:21 PM] <Evie> Children are louder
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:24 PM] <Shiral> It always amazes me how much noise cats DO make when they choose
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:25 PM] <cynicalmedic> Mine are all related to my rescue squad days
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:46 PM] <jemler> kids or cats?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:49 PM] <DesertRose> I wasn't afraid of the bridge. But in the nightmare, the bridge just suddenly wasn't there any more just after I drove my car over the crest.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:49:52 PM] <Jerusha> Mine are related to climbing narrow stairs without railings
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:02 PM] <cynicalmedic> Nightmares, Jemler
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:16 PM] <the_Bee> I recently had a nightmare about hurting Melantha.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:18 PM] <Shiral> Mine, if I remember them, are more about car accidents
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:18 PM] <Evie> I used to have some PTSD nightmares, but not in years, thank God.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:27 PM] <DesertRose> I'd always wake up as my car hit the water. It sucked.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:50 PM] <Evie> Yeah, I hate those dreams, DR. I have similar ones, or used to at times.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:55 PM] <cynicalmedic> People I could not save haunt me sometimes.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:56 PM] <DesertRose> I had a few weird dreams that weren't nightmares per se after I found out my father had died.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:50:57 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12i just have trouble driving in my dreams
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:51:07 PM] <KK> This morning--and don't know why this one stuck--I was dreaming about Princess Di, and one of her protection officers who'd got a thumb-nail sized gash on the bridge of his nose, and I was trying to treat it for him. We were in a ground floor apartment or motel room. Don't know why she was there--or him, for that matter. Or what I had to do with any of it.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:51:29 PM] <DesertRose> Dreams are weird.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:51:36 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12so true
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:51:40 PM] <the_Bee> I have trouble driving in waking life. I'm a driver-ed drop0ut.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:52:00 PM] <Evie> I had the dream about Duncan stopping by for a bit of tea and a chat. That was nice. ;-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:52:00 PM] <Shiral> At least Araxie isn't going to die hounded by Paparazzi
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:52:17 PM] <Shiral> Well, no WONDER he was late to dinner, then!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:52:57 PM] <Evie> And also the one about Duncan and Alaric discovering the Harley-Davidson place down the road and coming out dressed in black leather motorcycle gear and riding away on a Harley. That one was funny.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:05 PM] <DesertRose> O.o LOL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:13 PM] <the_Bee> When I dream about needing to pee I wake up and find I do.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:20 PM] <Jerusha> Did you ever let Duncan leave, Evie?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:20 PM] <Evie> Duncan's jacket had a studded cross on the back
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:26 PM] <Shiral> "It's even faster than a R'Kassan!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:28 PM] <DesertRose> ROFL, Evie.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:31 PM] <Evie> unfortunately I woke up, Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:46 PM] <Jerusha> Morgan in black leather! Yes1
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:53:56 PM] <DesertRose> That's canon.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:11 PM] <KK> And this is different how?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:16 PM] <Evie> Yeah. Not much difference for Alaric. Or for that matter, Duncan--he's used to black cassocks
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:18 PM] <DesertRose> Maybe not motorcyle gear, but black riding leathers.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:20 PM] <Shiral> A few centuries late, and Alaric COULD be a definite appreciator of motorcycles. =o)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:38 PM] <Jerusha> Duncan in a black leather motorcycle cassock
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:42 PM] <KK> Same difference. Just different steeds, and no zippers.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:42 PM] <DesertRose> ROFL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:48 PM] <Shiral> But not tight-fitting leather cassocks, Evie
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:54:53 PM] <Evie> I'm not sure they bought helmets. I probably ought to have scolded them for that.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:55:19 PM] <DesertRose> Yes. If you want to keep your brain inside your skull, you will wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:55:35 PM] <Shiral> I'm pretty fond of my braisn staying put, ye
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:55:42 PM] <Shiral> Yes, I meant to type
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:55:43 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12unlike Gary Busey, though somehow he lived
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:55:55 PM] <Evie> I also had a dream once about wandering down a narrow city street in a shop district that reminded me a bit of the Shambles in York, only I think it was meant to be Rhemuth
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:55:59 PM] <DesertRose> Sheer dumb luck, to quote Prof. McGonagall.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:56:01 PM] <KK> In the ER, we used to call helmet-less motorcycle riders Organ donors.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:56:09 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, I bet.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:56:17 PM] <cynicalmedic> Yes - EMS too
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:56:27 PM] <DesertRose> The paramedic I used to date called them something unprintable.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:56:57 PM] <cynicalmedic> Well there are those names as well - I was trying to stay G rated
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:57:05 PM] <DesertRose> But it was definitely an insult to their intelligence.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:57:16 PM] <KK> And yet, we used to ride horses all the time without helmets, except when we were jumping. It was very different in Ireland.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:57:40 PM] <DesertRose> I've ridden a horse without a helmet on, but I sure as shooting wouldn't jump without a helmet.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:57:54 PM] <Shiral> I like my head intact. =o) SO I wore hard hats when I was riding
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:58:11 PM] <jemler> you could make them j-rated (jemler-reated), then i could say them and get yelled at!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:58:24 PM] <cynicalmedic> My sister insists on riding helmets for everyone - if you don't have one, you don't ride on her property
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:58:28 PM] <Evie> I've sat on a horse and let it carry me places. Not sure I would call it riding exactly, since that implies more competence than I actually had. :-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:58:30 PM] <Shiral> GOod thing as once during a lesson, my horse decided he'd had enough, and stopped unexpectedly in front of a jump--I didn't
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:58:31 PM] * DesertRose throws a shower of goldfish at jemler.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:09 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12jemler is probably eating the goldfish right now
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:11 PM] <DesertRose> I haven't ridden at all in years.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:23 PM] <jemler> you don't expect me to swallow these do you?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:25 PM] <Shiral> Me neither. Still appreciate horses, though
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:28 PM] <KK> I actually used to wear a baseball cap with red wings on the sides, so that I'd fly if I came off. Fortunately, I never did on the flat. And the couple of time I came off while jumping, you can bet your bippie that I was wearing a helmet.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:34 PM] <DesertRose> Horses are pretty.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:37 PM] <Evie> I went on a trail ride last year, but that was the first horse I'd been on since my kids were in elementary school
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:43 PM] <the_Bee> I took riding lessons at summer camp once. I never did figure out how to post.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [07:59:59 PM] <Shiral> We sold my horse when I went to college. Haven't ridden since then
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:00:17 PM] <Evie> that was my problem, Bee. I'm fine at a walk, but I never could trot comfortably
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:00:20 PM] <Jerusha> I never had the chance to ride
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:00:37 PM] <the_Bee> It was a humiliating experience.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:00:47 PM] <jemler> unless you count merry-go-rounds, me neither
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:01:03 PM] <Evie> If only I could have had heavy-duty Velcro sticking me to the saddle.... ;-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:01:03 PM] <cynicalmedic> I have ridden my sister's Belgian - it is a long way to the ground from his back
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:01:09 PM] <Shiral> Riding takes time before you're good at it. So you have to really like it to persist long enough to reach that stage
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:01:09 PM] <KK> I haven't ridden since 1985, when I sold my last horse. Didn't ride in Ireland at all. Don't really miss it. Guess I got it out of my system. Horses are a lot of work, and someone has to feed and muck out every day, twice a day.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:01:28 PM] <Shiral> And they EAT
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:01:38 PM] <Shiral> They're a great way to get rid of excess cash
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:02:04 PM] <Shiral> So I'm just as happy to wander around a stable admiring OTHER people's horses
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:02:11 PM] <Evie> Unfortunately, unless you know someone with horses, riding also takes a lot of money that I don't have to spare. We used to be able to do a riding practice once a month or so at a friend's house, but we haven't seen them in several years now.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:02:24 PM] <Audrey> We went trail riding awhile back--the guide's horse kept wandering away every time he got off
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:02:31 PM] <KK> Yep. It's caring for the horse that's expensive; just buying the horse is comparatively cheap, if you just want a nice ride.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:27 PM] <Shiral> Yup. riding in the rain and mud is not fun
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:38 PM] Quit Evie has left this server (Client closed the connection).
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:43 PM] <Audrey> Worse than walking in the rain and mud?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:49 PM] Join Evie has joined this channel (~IceChat77@OWIRCN-0a313667.al.charter.com).
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:52 PM] <KK> My Jubal was a great horse, though--registered quarterhorse, bay. Scott used to ride him as a police horse. You could land a helicopter next to him and he'd only flick an ear.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:54 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12wb
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:56 PM] <the_Bee> rehi Evie
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:03:59 PM] <Shiral> Yes, if you have a horse who likes to ROLL in the mud in his paddock
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:04:11 PM] <Evie> hi
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:04:17 PM] <Shiral> WB
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:04:37 PM] <Evie> my campus used to have police horses, but I think they got phased out about 10 years or so ago
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:04:46 PM] <Audrey> hopefully he didn't try to roll in the mud while you were trying to ride
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:01 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12orlando has police horses
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:02 PM] <Shiral> Don't know if I'd want to go to Gwynedd in real life--I'm sure there are miles of muddy, muddy roads all over the place!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:05 PM] <cynicalmedic> Mathea's pony is like that - any more laid back, he would be comatose
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:06 PM] <KK> Mine hated to keep a blanket on, would pull it back from his butt so that the butt stuck out in the weather; then he'd roll in the mud.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:12 PM] <Evie> it's an urban campus, so seeing a horse was a nice surprise when they came by
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:44 PM] <the_Bee> Boston used to have police horses.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:50 PM] <Shiral> Unless you want to give the horse a bath, you have to wait to clean them up until the mud dries!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:05:55 PM] <Evie> miles of muddy elastic roads. ;-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:06:02 PM] <cynicalmedic> Baltimore does, too.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:06:07 PM] <KK> Horses are good PR for crowd control, good for the officers.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:06:14 PM] <Shiral> San Francisco did too. Years ago
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:06:42 PM] <KK> Expensive to maintain, though. Most departments are phasing them out.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:07:07 PM] <Shiral> Yes. as mentioned before, horses eat well.... like horses!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:07:36 PM] <Evie> I keep shopping for 1:6 horses, but the ones I've liked best have tended to go on sale when I'm low on cash.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:07:37 PM] <KK> And they poop. You think dogs are bad....
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:07:45 PM] <Evie> Hopefully I'll find a nice one on a payday for a change.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:02 PM] <Shiral> Would not want to follow a horse around with a pooper scooper..
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:08 PM] <Evie> at least they're not carnivores, though. I'd rather smell horse poop than carnivore poop
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:20 PM] <KK> Yet, you need at least two. And you'll need to build a little side-saddle.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:29 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12you'd need a giant pooper scooper
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:36 PM] <Audrey> There's a fox around here that uses the gravel path as a litter box
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:43 PM] <jemler> i'd rather smell steak tha ANY kind of poop!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:50 PM] <the_Bee> They used to give horse-drawn carriage rides in Boston, but I haven't seen one for a while.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:08:52 PM] <Evie> So they use sidesaddles in Gwynedd? I know they weren't introduced in England until later. By Anne of Bohemia, IIRC.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:09:11 PM] <Jerusha> Didn't most women ride astride back then, KK?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:09:29 PM] <KK> I think they mostly ride astride, but side-saddles are good, once the jumping horn is invented.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:10:04 PM] <Evie> Yes, that helped considerably. Anne's side-saddle was basically just a sideways seat. Not good for jumping.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:10:07 PM] <KK> The early ones were like a little chair strapped to the horse's back, and had a seat belt sometimes, and were only used at the walk.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:10:11 PM] <Evie> More for being led around on a very docile horse
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:10:26 PM] <Shiral> Who had had a valium recently
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:10:44 PM] <Evie> DH has a Spanish saddle that is as close as he was able to find to an authentic medieval style
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:10:49 PM] <KK> With the jumping horn, a lady rider was actually more secure than a man astride, when it came to the jumping field.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:10:54 PM] <Evie> he used to participate in SCA equestrian events
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:11:25 PM] <Shiral> So women rode astride then with REALLY long skirts for modesty?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:11:29 PM] <Evie> I've seen little medieval saddles made for 1:6 scale horses, but haven't seen any sidesaddles. I'll have to investigate that
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:11:30 PM] <KK> I made a quilted cover for my Western saddle back in the day.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:11:37 PM] <the_Bee> or divided skirts?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:12:06 PM] <Evie> Even a regular skirt will cover the legs if the skirt is very full. A friend of mine does SCA equestrian events in a long gown for her riding habit
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:12:21 PM] <Evie> though she wears leggings under it to prevent chafing
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:12:25 PM] <KK> I suspect they wore breeches under their long skirts to ride astride. I did that in the SCA.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:12:26 PM] <DesertRose> Very full skirts will do the trick.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:13:01 PM] <Evie> Oh! I found a really cool news article recently documenting ladies' undergarments in period. As in braies and early bras, that is, not just chemises.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:13:12 PM] <Evie> From a find in Austria, I think?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:13:14 PM] <KK> And divided skirts were a great invention, though I don't think they really came in until the American West. Think Annie Oakley.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:13:37 PM] <KK> I saw that, Evie. Found them in a long-abandoned closet in some castle.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:13:59 PM] <Shiral> Glad women had some support back then
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:14:52 PM] <jemler> the thing about the Middle Ages i could never figure out (i'm a guy, believe me, I've THOUGHT about it!) How the devil did women use the bathroom with a chastity belt on?.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:14:57 PM] <KK> It was hard to tell from the pictures wherther they offered much support. But then, ladies tended to be not as active as modern women, so maybe support wasn't as much of an issue.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:14:58 PM] <Evie> Yes, KK, and also there's a legal record of a case from around the same time period--a rape case of a 12 year old girl--in which it's mentioned that she was wearing braies, and nothing about the entry indicates that this was somehow out of the norm (thereby scotching some views that the pictorial depiction of women in braies was meant to convey mannish behavior or immorality.)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:15:49 PM] <KK> Young girls often wore their brothers' clothes for leisure, until they got the age when skirts were expected.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:16:09 PM] <Evie> LOL, jemler! I suspect chastity belts weren't exactly a norm, and more of a Victorian era concept re: the Middle Ages.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:17:14 PM] <Evie> Having seen some pictures of chastity belts, I can't imagine them being used in actual practice, except as more of a threat than a garment worn daily. Otherwise...yeesh! the probability of injury and infection!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:17:18 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:D
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:17:28 PM] <KK> More some Victorian man's notion of how he could keep his woman's virtue intact while he was absent. Practically speaking, though, highly impractical, just for the day to day business of living.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:17:49 PM] <Evie> Not to mention other bodily functions that truly can't wait for Hubby to get home.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:19:11 PM] <KK> Of course, women didn't really wear much in the way of underwear in those days.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:19:14 PM] <Shiral> They look like torture devices, certainly
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:20:07 PM] <Evie> I need to make more braies. It's not fair that my King gets the only pair.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:20:22 PM] <Shiral> Araxie will want some, too. =o)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:20:39 PM] <KK> You oculd turn them out on an assembly line, I suppose. ;-)
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:20:47 PM] <Evie> Yes. I guess there's an afternoon of undergarment making in my future. And shoes
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:20:58 PM] <KK> Shoes are good.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:20:59 PM] <Evie> Now that I've figured out a turnshoe pattern that works for Barbie feet
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:03 PM] <DesertRose> Evie, what have you made out of the black linen?
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:10 PM] <DesertRose> I'm just nosy.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:12 PM] <Jerusha> Ah yes, a braies new world
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:16 PM] <Evie> I made Mirjana an underdress and some shoes with it so far
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:31 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, cool.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:35 PM] <Evie> and there's lots left over, so I may make some men's tunics and possibly some more chausses and a cassock
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:46 PM] <jemler> A Nobleman on his way to the Crusades gives the key to his wife's chastity belt the the Captian of the Guard in his castle. He tells the man, "If I don't come back, use the key." About an hour after he left, he spotted a rider coming up fast behind him. He reignd in, waiting for the man to arrive. It's the Captain of the Guard. He tells his Lord, "My Lord, you've given the wrong
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:46 PM] <jemler> key."
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:21:46 PM] <DesertRose> I figured it'd get used for a cassock.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:22:08 PM] <DesertRose> jemler!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:22:17 PM] <jemler> LOL
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:22:22 PM] <KK> Black undertunics are useful for all kinds of outfits.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:22:42 PM] <KK> And then, there's always mourning. Someone was always dying.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:22:43 PM] <jemler> I got that from Dave Allen at Large
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:22:54 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, I figured when I finished MY project in black linen, Evie would find the scrap useful.
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:22:57 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12dave allen was great
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:23:03 PM] <Evie> http://www.rhemuthcastle.com/index.php?topic=844.375 You can see some of the black linen projects there, DR
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:23:07 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12i loved his sketches
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:23:18 PM] <jemler> you see some of his stuff on youtube
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:23:23 PM] <Evie> I just wish I had enough to make a gown for myself with it. It's gorgeous fabric!
[Sunday, September 23, 2012] [08:23:34 PM] <Evie> I might have to buy some from my online linen store