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KK Chat -- 16 Sept 2012
« on: September 16, 2012, 07:38:04 pm »
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:28 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:33 PM] <Evie> hi, KK
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:36 PM] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:41 PM] <KK> Hi, guys.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:43 PM] <Annie> hi KK
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:44 PM] <Evie> wow, we didn't even get the ice cream set out yet!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:47 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:48 PM] <the_Bee> sounds like a New England boiled dinner.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:05:54 PM] <the_Bee> Hi KK!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:06:13 PM] <KK> Sorry I wasn't able to make it last week. I did peek in around 8:30 when we got home, but there was no one here.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:06:30 PM] <Evie> Several of us stayed around until nearly that time
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:06:36 PM] <DesertRose> You must have peeked in shortly after we all gave up. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:06:41 PM] <KK> Must've just missed you.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:06:53 PM] <jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:06:58 PM] <the_Bee> so how goes the writing?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:06:59 PM] <Evie> my stomach rumbling finally made me log off, IIRC. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:07:00 PM] <KK> Hi, Jemler.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:07:52 PM] <bynw> hi KK
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:07:53 PM] <KK> Haven't gotten an enormous amount written, but I've been fleshing out characters. RIght now, dealing with Jehana's father, who is present at the investiture of Letald Hort of Orsal.
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:07:59 PM] <DesertRose> Hi cynicalmedic.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:00 PM] <jemler> hi cm
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:03 PM] <Annie> hi cm
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:05 PM] <Evie> Has Morgan eloped with Jehana yet? Oh wait, that was just a bizarre dream I had. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:05 PM] <the_Bee> hi cm
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:06 PM] <KK> Hi, cm.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:13 PM] <cynicalmedic> Evening, all
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:16 PM] <Evie> hi, cm
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:30 PM] <KK> They haven't even met Jehana yet, though her father has laid the bait.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:08:53 PM] <Evie> Come meet my daughter, young Brion. She has huge...tracts of land.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:09:08 PM] * DesertRose stifles a laugh.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:10:01 PM] <DesertRose> So how are you doing, KK?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:10:13 PM] <KK> Oh, he points out that he has several daughters, and that Brion has two sisters, where Meyric has several sons.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:10:30 PM] <KK> I'm doing fine.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:10:37 PM] <DesertRose> Ah, trying to marry off all the girls. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:10:42 PM] <the_Bee> Meyric?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:10:51 PM] <KK> King of Bremagne.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:10:53 PM] <DesertRose> I'm guessing that's Jehana's dad.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:11:08 PM] <the_Bee> he better be!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:11:23 PM] <DesertRose> Well, I think KK and I were typing at the same time.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:11:36 PM] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:12:41 PM] <Evie> we had a newcomer to chat last week who found us via Fanfiction.net. I'm hoping she'll turn up again this week.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:12:54 PM] <DesertRose> If I didn't have to be such a swot right now and do schoolwork practically to the exclusion of all else, I'd be writing on that 1366 fanfic.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:23 PM] <Evie> if you didn't have to be such a swot and could write your 1366 fanfic, I'd be happily proofreading it. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:28 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:42 PM] <Evie> hi, jojo
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:43 PM] <DesertRose> But I was slack about schoolwork for a while and now I'm paying for it.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:44 PM] <the_Bee> howdy jojo
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:45 PM] <DesertRose> Hi jojo.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:50 PM] <jojo> howdy all!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:13:51 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi jojo
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:03 PM] <KK> What are you studying, dr?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:05 PM] <Evie> so what's Festil's excuse, hmm? ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:07 PM] <jemler> hi jojo
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:17 PM] <DesertRose> I'm working on a certification for medical transcription.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:24 PM] <Annie> I think I need to give up and go to bed. This getting up in the morning business is killing me.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:29 PM] <KK> Ah, that's right.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:38 PM] <Evie> Yeah, they ought to put mornings later in the day, Annie
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:40 PM] <DesertRose> I'm on the practicum now which means I'm close to being finished, but it's a lot of stuff to type.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:42 PM] <Evie> Sleep well
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:46 PM] <DesertRose> Rest well, Annie.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:50 PM] <cynicalmedic> Good night Annie
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:14:55 PM] <the_Bee> You've lost quite a bit of sleep with us, haven't you, Annie?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:15:02 PM] <the_Bee> nighters Annie
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:15:06 PM] <Annie> night folks. See you next week maybe. Although I'll have had 10 teens on a sleepover, so I may not be in great shape!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:15:18 PM] <Evie> wow!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:15:19 PM] <KK> Nighters, Annie.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:15:21 PM] <Annie> night all
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:15:28 PM] <DesertRose> You'll have to pester Festil about his excuse, Evie.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:15:30 PM] <DesertRose> Night, Annie.
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:16:52 PM] <KK> So, what have the Littles been up to this wee, other than Araxie getting a new gown, Evie?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:16:55 PM] <Evie> So, KK...they've heard some bits about DragonCon from me, but probably would like to get your impressions as well.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:17:14 PM] <Evie> I'm making a new bench for them. Managed to figure out how to use a scroll saw without cutting fingers off so far.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:17:20 PM] <Evie> I just posted an update to the thread
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:18:35 PM] <Evie> You kind of have to use your imagination to visualize how it will turn out, since I've just cut out the seat pieces so far
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:18:39 PM] <jojo> looking forward to reading.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:18:40 PM] <Evie> But you can see them here: http://www.rhemuthcastle.com/index.php?topic=844.msg6869#msg6869
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:19:41 PM] <Evie> haven't decided yet whether to just use a dark brown stain on the bench with some gold edging on the fancy trim, or whether to go with the Haldane colors, mixing a crimson egg tempera for the main color and using gold edging for the scalloped trim and some designs on the legs.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:20:03 PM] <the_Bee> Duncan even fights with a sword. And the Michaelines were warrior priests, weren't they?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:20:18 PM] <DesertRose> Some of them, yes.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:20:39 PM] <Evie> the original plan was to make just a plain utilitarian bench, but DH had the fancy trim left over from another project, and that gave it the extra "fancy" it needed for me to consider making it part of Kelson's royal encampment furniture.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:20:46 PM] <Evie> yes
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:20:52 PM] <KK> You've posted this since I was last there earlier this afternoon. If you're building in balsa, it will gain some of its strength from the varnish; a knock-down bench might not be too sturdy.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:21:28 PM] <the_Bee> Would a non-folding bench be easily portable?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:21:42 PM] <DesertRose> Evie's going to have to send a child off to college so that she's got space for all the Littles' stuff. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:21:52 PM] <Evie> I was going to assemble a knock-down version first, see how stable it is, and if it needs more stability, then glue the legs in place instead. But that will make it take up more storage space, so I want to try a knock-down option first.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:22:14 PM] <Evie> fortunately my eldest is nearly ready to be shipped off to college, DR. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:22:18 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:22:24 PM] <the_Bee> how large is the bench?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:22:51 PM] <Evie> They'd both be small and easily portable, but I have very little storage space in my house, so the smaller a space something can fit into, the better.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:23:04 PM] <Evie> it's only about 8" long and 3.5" wide
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:23:06 PM] <KK> I used to build dollhouse furniture out of balsa, and finished it with a coat of dope, like you use for model airplanes (coating for tissue). Wasn't advanced enough in those days to stain the stuff first, though I easily could have done if I'd thought of it and had stain available.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:23:42 PM] <Evie> not sure if this is balsa or basswood, but it's something soft and light like that.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:24:17 PM] <KK> Don't know about basswood. How is it different from balsa?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:24:29 PM] <Evie> we have some dark stain that I used on the wooden dowel for Duncan's crosier, and it's very easy to apply.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:24:42 PM] <Evie> Basswood is just a little bit sturdier than balsa, but nearly as light and soft.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:07 PM] <KK> Some of the littles can sit on it when they're not doing anything else; better than sitting on the floor. :-)
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:09 PM] <Evie> I was looking for something lightweight, yet sturdy enough to hold two or three dolls seated on top
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:18 PM] <the_Bee> hi jerusha
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:30 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:37 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Everyone! *waves*
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:46 PM] <jojo> howdy jrusha
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:48 PM] <Evie> I eventually want to have several. If I can get more of the trim, I want to make a traveling camp bed as well, and a table for Kelson and his generals to gather around to study those campaign maps. Or, of course, eat at.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:25:58 PM] <Evie> hi, Jerusha
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:26:09 PM] <jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:26:17 PM] <Evie> I also have something I think will make a decent top for a large royal pavilion
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:26:39 PM] <the_Bee> the parasol?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:26:42 PM] <Evie> yes
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:27:05 PM] <Evie> I need to cut about 5 to 6" off the handle, and figure out how to attach canvas walls and dagging to the sides
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:27:15 PM] <Jerusha> "Little" Kelson is going to war?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:27:34 PM] <Evie> well, he wants to be ready for war, at any rate. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:27:49 PM] <Jerusha> Or he could stage an impressive tournament
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:28:08 PM] <Evie> plus it has the advantage of all being able to be broken down for storage, if I can make it right, unlike a roombox which would require a shelf or table for permanent display
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:28:18 PM] <Evie> He could do that
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:28:35 PM] <Evie> Impressing the ladies with his knightly prowess. Though I might want to wait until I have a horse or two first.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:28:40 PM] <Jerusha> Although, we all know Morgan would be triumphant. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:29:27 PM] <Evie> Are tournaments enjoyed or frowned upon in Gwynedd, KK, or have they come up with the idea yet?
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:29:37 PM] <jemler> Evie, maybe Mary Norton could give you some ideas! :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:29:38 PM] <Evie> hi, DF
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:29:42 PM] <DesertRose> Hi derynifanatic64.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:29:43 PM] <KK> They do improve in ability as they get older. Llion makes a comment to Alaric and friends that Nigel has just given him a workout.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:29:44 PM] <jemler> hi df
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:29:49 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12hi everyone
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:30:16 PM] <Jerusha> Hi DF!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:30:17 PM] <Evie> how old is Nigel at this point
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:30:19 PM] <the_Bee> Hi DF
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:30:19 PM] <jojo> Howdy DF
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:30:38 PM] <Jerusha> I imagine Nigel could give Morgan a workout
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:30:43 PM] <Evie> I found a Marx horse the right scale for the littles that came with a little knight who had a dark mustache, but I couldn't tell from the photo if he'd make a decent Nigel or not
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:31:14 PM] <jemler> KK, Once upon a time is NOT on tonight. they have a show called Revenge on instead.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:31:19 PM] <the_Bee> Did Nigel have a mustache?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:31:23 PM] <KK> They have tournaments. There's a big one at the beginning of this book, in honor of Brion's 18th birthday and his knighting. The squires and pages tilt at rings. The adults do jousting with breakaway lances and blunted weapons.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:31:23 PM] <Evie> yes
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:31:46 PM] <Evie> Nigel had a mustache, and Brion had a mustache and closely cropped beard
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:32:02 PM] <Evie> at least by DR and later times
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:32:43 PM] <DesertRose> For some goofy reason, I always pictured Nigel as clean-shaven.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:32:47 PM] <Evie> Oh, fun! I've tried beginner-level tilting at rings and at the quintain. I can say with all confidence that I will never win a knighthood for my equestrian skills. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:32:50 PM] <the_Bee> me too
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:33:08 PM] <Evie> the mustache is mentioned in several places
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:33:23 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12i just shaved mine off this morning
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:33:25 PM] <DesertRose> But honestly, with personal grooming technology what it was in those days, I imagine staying perfectly cleanshaven was a pain in the neck.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:33:33 PM] <Jerusha> Was Nigel's hair long or cropped short?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:33:53 PM] <KK> It varied at various stages of his life. So did Alaric's.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:33:59 PM] <Evie> I suspect "clean-shaven" back in those days really meant "shaved often enough that a true beard or mustache didn't get a chance to grow out."
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:34:20 PM] <Jerusha> So Alaric's wasn't always cropped short?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:34:27 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12sometimes shaving is still a pain in the neck today
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:34:36 PM] <jemler> check your razor
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:34:56 PM] <jemler> that's why i use an electric shaver! :)P
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:34:58 PM] <KK> Nope. He'll go through the Border braid phase like most boys with a Border connection.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:35:23 PM] <Jerusha> *imagine's Alaric with a border braid*
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:35:37 PM] <Jerusha> *heavy sigh*
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:35:42 PM] <the_Bee> I thought it was Dughal who made the border braid fashionable.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:35:47 PM] <Evie> straight blades achieve a closer shave than modern razors do, so it's possible that beard hair would take longer to create a 5 o'clock shadow back then than it would today.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:36:28 PM] <jemler> amazing. even before clocks, they had 5 o'clock shadow! :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:36:43 PM] <Evie> Well, in Kelson's generation, I would imagine that once the King goes sporting the style, it would instantly be fashionable among the younger set
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:36:54 PM] <Jerusha> IIRC, Denis Arilan was described as "blue joweled" in KKB
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:36:55 PM] <Evie> LOL!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:36:59 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12as long as you are careful, i don't mind shaving with a regular razor
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:37:07 PM] <Evie> They had clocks, jemler, just not high precision ones
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:37:23 PM] <Jerusha> And sundials
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:37:28 PM] <Evie> I can imagine that, Jerusha, with his dark hair
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:37:44 PM] <the_Bee> hourglasses, water clocks, candlemarks...
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:38:02 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, Denis and the Haldane men are all dark-haired, so I can imagine they got 5 o'clock shadow faster than, say, Alaric with his light hair.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:38:36 PM] <Evie> Not that I'm sitting here imagining a black-haired handsome bishop with blue-violet eyes and a bit of roguish stubble, and wondering why KK insists on torturing me by putting most of the men I like best in cassocks. No, not me.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:38:51 PM] <Jerusha> Of course not
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:39:20 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12:D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:39:25 PM] * jemler wonders what Evie is thinking about Father John Nivard.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:39:39 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:39:44 PM] <KK> Dhugal made the Border braid fashionable....again. Trends came and went, even then and there. And if Braids were not in fasion, queues probably were. And short-crop in time of war, for many.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:39:49 PM] <Evie> LOL! John's an exception. I just want to feed his cherubic face some milk and cookies. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:40:14 PM] <jemler> And stare adoringly into his sea-green eyes, no doubt! :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:40:34 PM] <Evie> No, John comes across as "little brother type" for some reason
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:40:59 PM] <KK> He's definitely an innocent. Some men just come across that way.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:41:03 PM] <Evie> maybe it's because I'm too busy chuckling over his raging case of hero worship when he first meets Duncan. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:41:15 PM] <jemler> So, it's not like you have a thing for priests?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:41:32 PM] <Evie> Not in general, no. Only, it seems, if they're fictional ones in Gwynedd. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:42:06 PM] <Evie> Father Mulcahy is safe from me. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:42:21 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, I always thought Father Mulcahy was adorkable.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:42:30 PM] <Jerusha> We had a Catholic priest on base that was the most amazing dancer!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:42:39 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:42:45 PM] <jemler> let me guess, limbo?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:42:53 PM] <Evie> My mom had a priest in one of her cooking classes who was also a great ballroom dancer
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:42:55 PM] <Jerusha> Military base, not baseball :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:43:30 PM] <Evie> I imagine Duncan would be a good dancer, or at least would have been in his youth, being a Duke's son
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:43:47 PM] <Evie> might be a bit rusty at it after years in a cassock, but could probably still manage to remember the steps
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:17 PM] <jojo> Our current deacon, and previous deacon , are both tall black-haired men who make me think of Duncan..
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:21 PM] <Jerusha> And most of the ladies at court would be willing to forgive any false steps :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:28 PM] <the_Bee> if his feet didn't get tangled in his cassock
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:33 PM] <jojo> But we're episcopalian, so they're married with children .
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:35 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12even "The Doctor" from Doctor Who is a good dancer
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:48 PM] <Festil> The Doctor Dances.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:53 PM] <Jerusha> David Tennant. *sigh*
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:44:58 PM] <Evie> One of my former pastors would have made a good Haldane. He had the coloring for it.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:45:16 PM] <bynw> that wasnt David Tennant in that episode
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:45:17 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12Christopher Eccleston too
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:45:19 PM] <Festil> Eccleston is kind of a favorite, but I won't start that old debate. :P
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:45:37 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, "The Doctor Dances" was a Ninth Doctor episode.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:45:43 PM] <Jerusha> I really don't care for the new one
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:45:51 PM] <DesertRose> A lot of people seem not to.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:45:51 PM] <KK> Hey, wearing a cassock is no different from wearing a long dress And if you wear it all the time....
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:46:28 PM] <Evie> Would he be allowed to dance at a revel, KK, at least with female relatives?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:46:32 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, it makes me think of the old thing about Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, only backwards, in high heels, and with six yards of fabric in her skirt. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:46:36 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12David Tennant is married to Peter Davison's daughter
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:46:38 PM] <Jerusha> But hopefully, no high heels
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:46:48 PM] <Evie> or is the Church of Gwynedd stodgy about that sort of thing?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:47:24 PM] <the_Bee> Didn't Rothana dance at the ball while she was still in orders?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:47:35 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12with Conall even
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:47:38 PM] <DesertRose> She wasn't a dedicated nun, though, just a novice.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:47:50 PM] <the_Bee> and Rory--a gavotte
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:47:50 PM] <Evie> She did, although she was a novice at the time, and wasn't wearing her habit because she was reconsidering her vows
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:48:02 PM] <KK> Maria dances with the Captain, and she's still a novice.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:48:13 PM] <DesertRose> Indeed she does. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:48:38 PM] <the_Bee> Sound of Music?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:48:42 PM] <Evie> yes
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:48:45 PM] <DesertRose> Yup.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:48:51 PM] <KK> For that matter, priests sometimes wear civilian attire; we know Duncan has beenknown to do so.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:48:59 PM] <Evie> I need to see that movie again. I don't think either of my children have seen it
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:49:18 PM] <KK> It's quite charming.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:49:33 PM] <Evie> Would the Church of Gwynedd frown on him dancing at a Court revel, though, or would they be the sort of church to frown on him doing so?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:49:33 PM] <DesertRose> OMG. Your kids haven't seen The Sound of Music? Blasphemy!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:49:36 PM] <the_Bee> I like the stage version better, though you can do more action on fild
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:49:42 PM] <the_Bee> or film
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:49:51 PM] <Evie> that's redundant. Blame Luke the Pestersome. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:49:57 PM] <bynw> my favorite Doctor is: William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davidson, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann, Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant and Matt Smith ... yes all of them. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:50:28 PM] <the_Bee> Jon Pertwee was my first. To me he's THE DOctor.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:50:54 PM] <Evie> I've already written Duncan into a dance scene in a fanfic, but of course that's non-canonical
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:50:57 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12Tom Baker was my first Doctor and my favorite
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:51:10 PM] <Jerusha> Wow, you know them all, Bynw!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:51:17 PM] <KK> He could probably get away with it for something slow and stately, like a pavane, and with the queen or a female relative.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:51:29 PM] <the_Bee> Actually, Pertwee and Baker are the only ones I've seen.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:51:32 PM] <KK> Probably with a very young girl, too.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:51:47 PM] <DesertRose> But not with Helena, Evie, too close to his own age. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:51:55 PM] <Jerusha> Well, count me out, then.:)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:52:03 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12Don't forget Richard Hurndall and Peter Cushing
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:52:07 PM] <Evie> No one that anyone would be likely to misconstrue as a romantic interest, in other words. Yeah, I can see that.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:52:43 PM] <KK> It would need to be seen as a courtesy to the lady involved.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:52:45 PM] <Jerusha> But in a dance where you are changing partners, the rules could be bent, a bit
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:52:48 PM] <the_Bee> I wonder if Duncan and Maryse ever got a chance to dance.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:52:55 PM] <Evie> Actually, in the scene I wrote, I think it was a group dance with frequent partner changes, so that would be another way to avoid the appearance of impropriety
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:53:04 PM] <DesertRose> True.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:53:09 PM] <KK> I'm sure they did, in the days leading up to that terrible family feud.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:53:24 PM] <DesertRose> And there were a lot of medieval dances that involved changing partners every so often.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:53:28 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12"All She Wants To Do Is Dance" and make romance
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:53:32 PM] <KK> Yes, dances where partners changed often would probably be ok.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:54:08 PM] <KK> They just shouldn't be seen as enjoying it too much.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:54:22 PM] <DesertRose> Heavens no.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:54:33 PM] <Evie> He's just not going to get caught up in a slow dance with a woman his own age where he gets to hold her close and gaze longingly into her eyes. Especially since the waltz won't be invented for a few centuries yet, I don't think. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:54:39 PM] <Jerusha> "Thank you for not enjoying this dance, my Lady"
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:54:47 PM] <Evie> LOL!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:55:14 PM] <Evie> "Thank you for the dance, my Lady. I hope you suffered it as stoically as I did."
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:55:31 PM] <DesertRose> He could probably dance with his granddaughter and appear to enjoy that, but that's because that would be too cute. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:55:34 PM] <the_Bee> The walse was called "lascivious" when it was first introduced.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:55:58 PM] <KK> Keep in mind that energetic dances could also be considered a form of physical exercise, especially in the winter, when one was cooped up indoors for days at a time.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:56:13 PM] <the_Bee> get the blood flowing
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:56:15 PM] <Jerusha> Duncan dancing with a granddaugher? Oh yes! Or a grandniece
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:56:30 PM] * Evie imagines dancing the Korobushka with Duncan and dying of a hot flash in the middle of it.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:56:39 PM] <KK> Waltzing was definitely scandalous when it first came out.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:56:43 PM] <jojo> lol
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:57:14 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12waltzing matilda
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:57:44 PM] <DesertRose> Everything is scandalous (or just plain weird) when it's new.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:57:55 PM] <jojo> KK, how is the book doing?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:57:58 PM] <Jerusha> I suppose a hand on the lady's waist bucked social norms
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:58:20 PM] <KK> More slowly than I would like, but it's coming along.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:58:22 PM] <Evie> That and standing so close to the other partner, Jerusha
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:58:48 PM] <Jerusha> Is Brion married yet?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:58:56 PM] <Evie> Although there are some dances that require a hand on the waist at some point, although I think they're more country dances than court ones
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:59:00 PM] <KK> Nope, hasn't even met the lady.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:59:17 PM] <Evie> He's just now hearing her dad's "sales pitch" :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:59:35 PM] <DesertRose> There are some Elizabethan dances that involve the man almost throwing the woman in the air.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:59:39 PM] <Jerusha> The battle with the Marluk will be included, won't it/
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [07:59:50 PM] <Jerusha> "?"
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:00:04 PM] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:00:16 PM] <derynifanatic64> 12that should be very interesting
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:00:23 PM] <Evie> have you written or drafted that scene (or scenes) yet?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:00:25 PM] <Jerusha> Oh goody!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:01:48 PM] <KK> Only in the short story, "Swords against the Marluk," though I'll be changing a bit from that. It was the very first Deryni short story I wrote.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:02:12 PM] <Evie> what is that in? I've never found it.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:02:17 PM] <Jerusha> I enjoyed it - wanted more!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:02:21 PM] <DesertRose> It's not been widely circulated.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:02:38 PM] <Jerusha> Flashing Swords, wasn't it?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:02:46 PM] <DesertRose> And she didn't include it in Deryni Archives because she meant to expand the story. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:03:04 PM] <the_Bee> You also wrote about that battle from Charissa's POV, didn't you?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:03:18 PM] <KK> It was in "Flashing Swrods #4," but I've never anthologized it elsewhere because I knew I'd be doing things a bit differently when I actually wrote the novel covering that incident.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:03:37 PM] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:03:46 PM] <Evie> Well, I'm a completist, so I guess I need to track down a copy of "Flashing Swords #4".
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:04:01 PM] <Jerusha> I got mine from Amazon
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:04:17 PM] <cynicalmedic> I found mine on Alibris
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:04:53 PM] <the_Bee> or www.Allbookstores.com
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:11 PM] <Jerusha> I originally found Flashing Swords because I was reading Fafrd and the Grey Mouser
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:18 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Shiral!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:21 PM] <bynw> hi sis!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:25 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:27 PM] <Shiral> Yooo Hoo!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:27 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Shiral!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:31 PM] <jojo> Howdy Shiral!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:36 PM] <KK> Hi, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:39 PM] <jemler> not cheap: Ebay Flasing Swords #4 1977 1st Ed. $19.95 + 4.00 S/h
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:44 PM] <Shiral> Hello all
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:05:52 PM] <jemler> hi shiral
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:06:01 PM] <DesertRose> Hey Shiral.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:06:06 PM] <Jerusha> I did not get a first edition. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:06:09 PM] <Evie> I just found a used one for 48 cents plus $3.99 shipping, jemler
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:06:22 PM] <jemler> flasing swords
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:06:25 PM] <Evie> hi, Shiral
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:06:31 PM] <Shiral> How are Alaric's Torenthi lessons coming?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:07:18 PM] <KK> He pestered the crew on the voyage to Coroth, so he's persevering.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:07:41 PM] <Evie> I gave them a brief summary of your reading from D*Con, KK, but leaving out some of the details so that they have something to look forward to when the book comes out
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:07:45 PM] <Jerusha> It's hard to imagine Alaric "pestering"
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:07:50 PM] <Shiral> I don't imagine it's much help in Bremagne, though
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:08:06 PM] <DesertRose> When he was a kid, I'm sure he was perfectly capable of pestering. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:08:16 PM] <jemler> KK? Battle Stations?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:08:39 PM] <the_Bee> Torentha sailors on a Gwyneddan shiP? Were the two kingdoms on trusting terms at the time?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:08:42 PM] <Shiral> I suspect DR is right
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:09:03 PM] <DesertRose> No, Gwyneddan sailors who knew how to speak Torenthi.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:09:11 PM] <the_Bee> ah, ok
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:09:25 PM] <Jerusha> I so liked the "shoe" scene in CM
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:10:15 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, is Mibbit being stupid again?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:10:23 PM] <DF64> for me it was
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:10:29 PM] <the_Bee> What I remember is Alaric putting feathers in his mother's casket so she'd have wings in Heaven.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:10:54 PM] <Jerusha> And leaving her with his stuffed cat
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:11:06 PM] <cynicalmedic> That brought tear to my eye
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:11:19 PM] <KK> Torenthi is a trade language, so a lot of sailors have at least rudimentary Torenthi. Henry Kirby observes that it's essential, if he hopes to have his own ship some day.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:11:41 PM] <Shiral> And he ends up with a rather nice one. =o)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:11:41 PM] <KK> I liked the shoe bit too, Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:12:00 PM] <Shiral> Always good to befriend your future Duke!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:12:32 PM] <Jerusha> Having raised three boys, it was deja vu!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:12:38 PM] <DesertRose> Well, the guy who was on track to be the next duke. Given the recent history of the family, it wasn't a given that he'd live long enough to be duke.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:12:57 PM] <DesertRose> I mean, WE know he made it, but Kirby might not have.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:13:12 PM] <KK> This is true. Fortunately, he had a regency council that looked after his affairs properly.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:13:12 PM] <Shiral> This is true. But Alaric did prove to be a survivor
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:14:10 PM] <DesertRose> True. I was just so mad when Alyce's brother (whose name I can't call just this minute) died, after everything the poor kid went through.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:14:13 PM] <Shiral> Nasty Archbishops not withstanding
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:14:14 PM] <jojo> sword and wit are both swift and to the point with Alaric... probably making for an annoying teen....
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:14:58 PM] <jojo> with those with less brains and more stodginess.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:15:28 PM] <KK> He's ten now, so that's ahead in the very near future.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:15:30 PM] <Jerusha> very capable of making his point, I suspect
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:15:39 PM] <DesertRose> Probably, Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:15:40 PM] <cynicalmedic> Ahern was Alyce's brother
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:15:45 PM] <DesertRose> Ahern. That was his name.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:15:57 PM] <KK> Also, cominginto his powers, and beginning to Truth-Read on a fairly regular basis.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:16:03 PM] <DesertRose> Couldn't call that to save my life and didn't want to reach over to the bookshelf to find it. :P
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:16:33 PM] <DF64> 12:)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:17:03 PM] <Shiral> I don't imagine that Alaric annoyed Brion all that often
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:17:05 PM] <Jerusha> I felt bad about Ahern, but is that had not happened, Alaric would never have been Duke
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:17:18 PM] <DesertRose> No, true.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:17:24 PM] <DesertRose> But I liked Ahern, darn it. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:17:36 PM] <KK> Yep. Of if he had, it would have been a bit later, when Ahern died some other way.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:17:47 PM] <the_Bee> Was Ahern the one who died of what sounded like appendicitis from KK's description?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:17:50 PM] <DesertRose> Ahern would have had to die with no issue.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:01 PM] <Jerusha> Didn't Alaric have a memory about Brion disciplining an unruly page?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:03 PM] <Shiral> But not if Ahern had had a chance to produce an heir of his own
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:04 PM] <DesertRose> And Ahern and Zoe I think would have fixed that issue thing. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:20 PM] <KK> I liked him, too. Losing him was similar to losing Javan, though they died in totally different ways. Still dead untimely, though.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:46 PM] <DesertRose> Something intestinal, yes, Bee.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:47 PM] <Jerusha> Yes, Javan was most unfortunate
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:49 PM] <Evie> Though even if he'd lived long enough to marry and sire an heir, that heir could have died young, as well as his dad, still leaving Alaric as the next heir
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:18:55 PM] <KK> Yes, it was appendicitis.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:03 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, I nearly threw the book across the room when Javan died.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:06 PM] <the_Bee> I wonder if the location of the Coroth Portal died with Ahern.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:25 PM] <DesertRose> Same with Rhys Thuryn. I was so mad.
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[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:40 PM] <Jerusha> I don't think Ahern knew, unless Keryll did (I think I spelled that wrong)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:43 PM] <Shiral> Javan's death hit me hard. And by the time Rhys Michael died, I forgave him for not listening to Javan....sort of. =o)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:50 PM] <Evie> Hi Tieg
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:57 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Tieg
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:19:58 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Tieg
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:02 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Tieg!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:03 PM] <DF64> 12hi tieg
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:07 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, I forgave Rhys Michael, eventually. He paid way too high a price for not listening to his brother.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:09 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Tieg.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:16 PM] <Tieg> Hi all, I've been forgetting to chat for a few years, seeing Katherine at DragonCon reminded me :-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:18 PM] <jojo> howdy Tieg
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:24 PM] <Shiral> Rhysem redeemed himself because he paid a high price, and he showed his mettle when it counted.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:27 PM] <KK> Tieg, I think you're well and truly greeted. :-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:36 PM] <Shiral> Greetings, Tieg!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:47 PM] * Shiral couldn't resist
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:20:55 PM] <Tieg> LOL, warm happy greetings all! :-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:21:28 PM] <jemler> hi tieg
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:22:07 PM] <Tieg> Hi Jemler (Tieg feels the spotlight on him). I wasn't sure when the chat started, don't let me interrupt your conversation flow
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:22:18 PM] <DF64> 12no worries
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:22:28 PM] <DesertRose> Tieg, chat starts when KK gets here, which is usually 7pm-ish Eastern.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:22:33 PM] <KK> Rhysem was, indeed, a good character who redeemed himself.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:22:36 PM] <the_Bee> We usually gather around 7pm Eastern Time
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:13 PM] <the_Bee> and as soon as Once Upon a Time starts, KK will be leaving at 8pm.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:14 PM] <Jerusha> When it came to Cinhil's sons, it was almost like three strikes and you're out!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:17 PM] <jemler> i LOVED Rhysems' will. Put the regents in their place! :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:21 PM] <DesertRose> Seriously.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:27 PM] <Shiral> I always feel sorry for Alroy; between having Cinhil for a father, being ill so much and the regents, he had a short difficult life and not much fun.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:48 PM] <Tieg> cool, I'll make a good attempt to put a permanent post-it on my brain for Sunday :-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:50 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, Alroy had a rough go of it. Really, all three of them did in various ways.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:56 PM] <Shiral> Yes, I thought Rhysem's Codicil was wicked good. =o)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:57 PM] <KK> And alas, this is about when I boogie out--sometimes earlier, if Once Upon a TIme is at 8 PM. But I've promised my husband spachetti tonight, so I'm going to have to go soon.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:23:59 PM] <the_Bee> Alroy's Haldane power never activated.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:05 PM] <DF64> 12if only Cinhil had become king earlier in his life
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:07 PM] <cynicalmedic> Derry is my favorite character, but that was a tough choice - Charlan came in a close second
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:07 PM] <jemler> it's not on tonight!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:11 PM] <Evie> If you're not already a member of the Rhemuth Castle forum, you might enjoy giving that a read as well
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:12 PM] <Tieg> I always liked Cinhil
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:22 PM] <Shiral> So was being able to tease Rhun
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:34 PM] <Jerusha> And Charlan - I liked him, too
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:35 PM] <DF64> 12the new season starts in 2 weeks for "once upon a time"
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:47 PM] <DesertRose> I liked Cinhil but he made some horrendously stupid decisions at the end of his life, wrt Regency Council.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:59 PM] <Shiral> Yes, Poor Charlan. He served Javan loyally to their ends
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:24:59 PM] <jemler> i had a choice between spaghetti or atroganoff. i took stroganoff
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:25:16 PM] <Evie> KK, please tell Scott to write a book 3 of his series, because he left me hanging with At Sword's Point.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:25:23 PM] <KK> I liked Charlan, too. Notice how his name keeps being mentioned.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:25:27 PM] <Shiral> I liked Cinhil better than Imre, but he wasted so much time being penitent!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:25:43 PM] <DF64> 12"revenge" is on in place of "once upon a time" tonight
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:25:54 PM] <Tieg> true about Cinhil. I think what I really enjoyed was the discovery of his powers and the process of bringing him into his powers. Lots of discovery and self-discovery
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:25:57 PM] <KK> Yep, doubt I'll watch that.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:25:59 PM] <Jerusha> The first years if the Interregnum could make an interesting story line
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:05 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, I kind of like how Kenneth and therefore Alaric are descended from Charlan.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:08 PM] <Shiral> I liked it that Charlan was a Morgan. =o)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:11 PM] <cynicalmedic> There was something about him - Derry has that same selflessness, and I think that
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:20 PM] <cynicalmedic> is why I like him
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:22 PM] <DesertRose> Derry is fun, too.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:28 PM] <cynicalmedic> sorry hit the button too soon
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:31 PM] <Tieg> Derry was awesome
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:32 PM] <KK> THey're not descended; he's a collateral line.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:32 PM] <Jerusha> Derry needs a wife
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:37 PM] <KK> Charlan did not marry.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:39 PM] <Tieg> So do I! :-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:53 PM] <the_Bee> Charlan was a collateral ancestor.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:26:55 PM] <Shiral> No, but Charlan was a good example of a Morgan in his affinity for Haldanes
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:27:00 PM] <DesertRose> Oh yeah, I should have said related. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:27:00 PM] <Jerusha> But his brother did
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:27:33 PM] <Shiral> Maybe Alaric should call one of his future sons Charlan
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:27:33 PM] <KK> Yes, and Kenneth gets buried near Charlan, in the tomb where Alyce's body lay while her permanent tomb was being buiolt in Culdi.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:02 PM] <KK> I expect he will. Or Kenneth.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:05 PM] <Jerusha> Where was Charlan buried? Morganhall?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:10 PM] <KK> Yes,\.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:13 PM] <DesertRose> Or both, KK? :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:31 PM] <KK> Both buried at Morganhall.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:35 PM] <DesertRose> Somehow I can see Alaric and Richenda with a housefull of kids. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:36 PM] <Jerusha> There are those future twins.:D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:28:52 PM] <DesertRose> There was supposed to be a space there, between house and full.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:01 PM] <Evie> I can see Alaric and Richenda happily settling down to creating those heirs and spares. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:03 PM] <Shiral> Lucky they have a castle. Lots of young Morgans would make a lot of noise!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:09 PM] <the_Bee> ARaxie might like to name a son Richard for her father.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:09 PM] <cynicalmedic> Perhaps Zoe named her second child that - the one she was carrying when Alyce died
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:19 PM] <jemler> and spares and spares and spaers.. :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:33 PM] <DF64> 12heirs and spares
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:47 PM] <KK> As I recall, one of her sons has one of his names as Charlan.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:29:52 PM] <cynicalmedic> The Morgan horde - poor Derry, herding all those Dernyi
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:07 PM] <the_Bee> the Morgans weren't Deryni.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:08 PM] <KK> Derry needs to marry.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:22 PM] <KK> Llion marries in this book: Alazais.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:23 PM] <Evie> Yes. He. Does. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:30 PM] <Shiral> A Merry Derry Lass
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:39 PM] <jojo> cute
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:45 PM] <DesertRose> Derry enjoys messing around too much to settle down, I think. At least in his younger years. :P
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:46 PM] <Jerusha> Do you have anyone in mind for Derry, KK?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:48 PM] <jemler> Bee, Kenneth Morgan had shields, but he was human.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:30:57 PM] <Shiral> An indication of how much Kenneth values Llion
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:31:04 PM] <Evie> He'll need heirs for that Earldom eventually, though, DR
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:31:08 PM] <DesertRose> Yup, true.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:31:09 PM] <the_Bee> He did? I forgot that.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:31:20 PM] <KK> Kenneth never knew.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:31:20 PM] <cynicalmedic> Alaric's family is - Derry keeps an eye on all the children
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:31:40 PM] <jemler> in the last book, Arilan broke thru shields Morgan didn't know he had.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:31:51 PM] <Shiral> And Dhugal needs a Duchess
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:01 PM] <KK> He does.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:05 PM] <DesertRose> Dhugal is having too much fun flirting too. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:21 PM] <Evie> He's tired of being the only virgin Duke in Gwynedd, KK. Give Dhugal a bride already. ;-)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:22 PM] <KK> I must find him a good woman.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:38 PM] <DesertRose> Dhugal needs a wife and a lot of kids, because he's got at least three titles I can think of.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:49 PM] <Shiral> I was watching Much Ado about Nothing and enjoyed Kenneth Branagh's line "No! The world must be peopled!"
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:56 PM] <jemler> how about that Eketrina (?) the one with the great picture?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:56 PM] <cynicalmedic> Derry too - he has been waiting longer :)
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:32:57 PM] <DesertRose> Although I guess Transha passes by tanistry.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:03 PM] <Evie> He needs to pass on those Healer genes. Duncan certainly can't!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:15 PM] <jemler> Now you tyell kim!?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:19 PM] <DesertRose> Duncan already has!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:20 PM] <jemler> tell him!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:23 PM] <jemler> sory
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:29 PM] <DF64> 12JEMLER!!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:31 PM] <Shiral> And Duncan must be having certain 'talks" with Dhugal impressing upon him the need for young McLains
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:33 PM] <the_Bee> Dhugal will want a Deryni wife, won't he?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:45 PM] <Jerusha> I would think so.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:50 PM] <Shiral> I'd think he'd insist
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:56 PM] <cynicalmedic> I loved "Much Ado" Kenneth Branagh was terrific in that
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:33:57 PM] <Evie> Well, yes, DR, but he can't make more healers now, unless he wants Cardiel and Bradene breathing down his neck!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:03 PM] <jemler> Duncan alreadyt wore out one mattress Evie, remember?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:05 PM] <DesertRose> No, true.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:06 PM] <KK> Argh, I hafta sign off. Must Make Spaghetti!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:15 PM] <jemler> nite kk
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:19 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, enjoy your spaghetti, KK. Will we see you next week?
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:23 PM] <Jerusha> But if he found the right woman who wasn't Deryni, he might not mind
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:24 PM] <Shiral> Night KK, Glad I caught you
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:25 PM] <DF64> 12pasta!!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:28 PM] <the_Bee> At some point in QFSC, Kelson and Dhugal realie only a Deryni wife will do for either of them.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:28 PM] <Evie> You are totally misremembering that quote, jemler. :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:31 PM] <KK> See you all next week, so far as I know.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:33 PM] <Shiral> Enjoy the Spaghetti!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:33 PM] <DF64> 12goodnight KK
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:33 PM] <cynicalmedic> Night KK! Enjoy the pasta!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:40 PM] <Evie> it was an EXAMPLE. Of what NOT to do! :D
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:42 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, have a good week, KK!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:50 PM] <jojo> Night KK - have a good one!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:52 PM] <Shiral> Write lots!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:34:53 PM] <the_Bee> nighters, KK. good week and good writing.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:03 PM] <Evie> bring us spaghetti next week!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:09 PM] <Jerusha> Thanks for coming, KK
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:15 PM] * Shiral produces Tiramisu
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:25 PM] <jemler> oh, i thought it was advice to the lovelorn, kinda like Dear Evie!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:34 PM] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:41 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, (pushes away the cat that's trying to lick her to death), waves goodnight, and disappears (with the cat) in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:42 PM] <DesertRose> Thanks for visiting with us, KK!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:44 PM] <Tieg> Cheers KK, great sto see ya
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:48 PM] <DF64> 12bye
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:50 PM] <Shiral> Bye, KK
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:51 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:52 PM] <Evie> We're always this chaotic, Tieg.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:35:56 PM] <Evie> except when we're worse
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:36:05 PM] <KK> It's been fun. Ta for now.
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:36:07 PM] <Tieg> Doesn't seem very chaotic to me. But now that I'm here...
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:36:09 PM] <DesertRose> Ta!
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:36:11 PM] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:36:15 PM] <the_Bee> bye KK
[Sunday, September 16, 2012] [08:36:16 PM] <Evie> Bye, KK!
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