KK Chat -- 24 June 2012

[DesertRose]

[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:23 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:33 PM] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:36 PM] * Shiral blows a fanfare
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:43 PM] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:45 PM] <the_Bee> pygmy lions, not little monster.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:46 PM] <Shiral> Hello, Katherine
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:51 PM] <the_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:54 PM] <jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:55 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Hello KK.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:10:58 PM] <Shiral> Pygmy lions have had their suppers
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:26 PM] <KK> Booker is busy snapping at flies. It sometimes takes so little to make him happy.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:36 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:37 PM] <the_Bee> Has he caught any?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:41 PM] Join Jerusha has joined this channel (Mibbit@OWIRCN-e7c1855b.dsl.bell.ca).
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:46 PM] <jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:47 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:49 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:51 PM] <Evie> hi
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:11:58 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:12:00 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> hello
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:12:17 PM] <KK> Oh, yes. And I found a squashed carcass on a window, where he'd obviously jumped up and missed snapping the fly, but squashed it against the glass instead. Ew!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:12:35 PM] <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:12:39 PM] <DesertRose> Oh gross.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:12:41 PM] <Evie> lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:12:43 PM] <the_Bee> as long as it's dead...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:12:56 PM] <KK> Shiral, are you a free woman tonight, or are you at the library?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:01 PM] <Shiral> Free!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:02 PM] <Jerusha> Cats chasing flies?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:11 PM] <KK> Yippee!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:14 PM] <Shiral> Cats are sitting about washing their paws
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:16 PM] <the_Bee> Booker's a dog.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:17 PM] <Evie> huzzah for freedom!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:18 PM] <KK> Dog chasing flies.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:37 PM] <Shiral> Dmitri is now full grown and quite a bully.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:48 PM] <Jerusha> Ah, mine chase squirrels, and fortunately, don't catch them
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:53 PM] <Shiral> I think Francesca would like to find a way to make his death look like an accident, sometimes
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:56 PM] <Evie> Gigi has curled up by my elbow to tell you hello, KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:13:56 PM] <Kelric> ohaithere
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:14:04 PM] <Shiral> Hi Kelric
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:14:06 PM] <KK> Awwww
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:14:40 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Gigi
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:14:52 PM] <KK> Gus ws on my lap for a while, but has now gone elsewhere. He's been bugging e all week, so that I've nearly had to put him out of the room so that I can write.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:15:05 PM] <KK> Bites my rings.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:15:06 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> HIs Grace would be rubbing against all of you, if he could; he has to settle for my lap.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:15:21 PM] <DesertRose> LOL @ Gus.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:15:26 PM] <Evie> She has turned around on the arm of her chair, did the helicopter rotor thing with her stubby tail, and now is settled contentedly
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:15:46 PM] <KK> The tail image is amazing.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:05 PM] <Evie> LOL! Luke likes to bite my rings occasionally, but mostly he goes crazy trying to nuzzle and chew on my smartphone if I'm using its web browser
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:11 PM] <the_Bee> naturally stubby, or did something happen to it?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:22 PM] <Evie> She was born that way, we think
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:27 PM] <KK> Happy to report that I've made good progress this week. Alaric is now 10.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:32 PM] <DesertRose> YAY!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:39 PM] <Evie> the vet couldn't find any evidence of it being cut off
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:47 PM] <Shiral> Dmitri likes the cat spa--- which is the triangular space behind my laptop where the lamp keeps it warm
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:48 PM] <Evie> Yay, KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:48 PM] <the_Bee> Where is he--at court?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:48 PM] <Jerusha> Did he have a good birthday?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:53 PM] <DesertRose> She was just born with a stub tail?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:57 PM] <Evie> yes, DR
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:16:59 PM] <KK> He's on his way with the king to Bremagne, where Brion will fall in love with Jehana and woo her.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:17:28 PM] <Shiral> VERY good, happy to hear it, KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:17:39 PM] <the_Bee> Could Evie have some Manx ancestry?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:17:49 PM] <Jerusha> Evie?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:17:57 PM] <Evie> Not sure whether to say Yay for Brion--it's ultimately a good thing, but still, he'll have some less happy times ahead with Jehana
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:17:58 PM] <Shiral> Will Jehana fall in love with Brion as easily?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:18:15 PM] <Evie> LOL! I don't, Bee, but there's a slight chance Gigi does. ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:18:22 PM] <Jerusha> Alaric should find it all intriguing
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:18:34 PM] <Shiral> I must have Manx in me--no tail to speak of!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:18:37 PM] <Evie>
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:18:53 PM] <KK> I think so. OTOH, they have just seen Xenia off with her Torenthi husband, and the portents are not good for that one.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:01 PM] <Evie> Odd...a remote control just leaped off the couch for no apparent reason.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:12 PM] <jemler> i'd have to see it shiral in order to form an opinion! :-P
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:13 PM] <KK> Poltergeist?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:16 PM] <Shiral> Oh dear, poor Xenia
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:26 PM] <Jerusha> I've forgotten, who id Xenia?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:32 PM] <Evie> Yes, there's a sad end to that match, IIRC
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:33 PM] <Shiral> Sorry, Jemler/ You'll have to use your imagination!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:37 PM] <the_Bee> Who is Xenia?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:38 PM] <KK> One of Brion's younger sisters.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:40 PM] <Evie> Xenia Haldane is Brion's sister
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:46 PM] <jemler> i'm good at that!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:19:59 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Was she the one Blaine rescued?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:20:09 PM] <Shiral> If she goes unhappily into Torenth, no WONDER we don't hear from her..
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:20:16 PM] <KK> That was probably SIlke.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:20:33 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Ok I wasn"t sure.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:20:33 PM] <Evie> Hopefully not a poltergeist,KK; I had a dream about one last night, which is as close as I ever want to get to one!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:20:52 PM] <Jerusha> New story, Evie?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:21:03 PM] <KK> She gets seduced after the 12th Night feast, and the Haldane men oblige the seducer to marry her.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:21:06 PM] <jemler> waht me to send Henry to you? he's our family ghost.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:21:34 PM] <Evie> No new Deryni fanfic stories, Jerusha. Am working on an original one this time, although I do have 4 chapters of a fanfic simmering on the back burner
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:21:50 PM] <Jerusha> That's not a good start to a marriage
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:22:00 PM] <Evie> Uh oh. Who does, Xenia?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:22:19 PM] <DesertRose> I thought Silke was the Haldane girl who took the veil?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:22:54 PM] <Alkari> Hi KK - sorry went AWOL for a few minutes.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:22:55 PM] <Evie> She was, at least in the Codex. That may have happened later, if the seduced Haldane was Silke
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:23:02 PM] <Shiral> Re: Xenia, poor thing!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:23:39 PM] <KK> Xenia is the one who was seduced. Silke takes the veil later; she's youger.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:23:47 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, okay.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:23:48 PM] <Jerusha> The Haldanes should have beheaded him, instead.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:23:49 PM] <Evie> So, who seduced whom again, and did they use the Dark Side of the Force, so to speak? :-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:24:10 PM] <Alkari> Oh, poor Xenia.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:24:15 PM] <KK> Count Sigismund seduced Ps. Xenia.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:24:25 PM] <Jerusha> May have been a reason for Silke to take the veil
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:24:34 PM] <Alkari> Someone needed a better chaperone!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:25:37 PM] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:25:41 PM] <Evie> Seems like a good way for a count to end up marrying into royalty...at least if he's lucky and his prospective in-laws don't simply gut him instead.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:25:56 PM] <Evie> seems like that would be rather risky
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:25:58 PM] <Alkari> Poor Xenia though
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:25:59 PM] <the_Bee> It probably wouldn't have helped diplomatic relatioons if Brion had has a Torenthi count beheaded.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:26:09 PM] <Jerusha> Xenia could disappear forever in Torenth
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:26:17 PM] <KK> He's there with a delegation led by a Torenthi duke, so that probably helped to save his life.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:26:27 PM] <DesertRose> What a jerk.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:26:28 PM] <jemler> considering what he did, i think they'd get it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:27:10 PM] <Evie> Yeah. Probably wouldn't help Gwynedd/Torenthi relations if they decided to settle things with a sword
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:27:23 PM] <DesertRose> Probably not, but I feel bad for Xenia.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:27:26 PM] <Jerusha> What was his county, KK?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:27:27 PM] <Evie> yes
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:27:37 PM] <jemler> on the other hand, it would be a point of honor.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:27:38 PM] <Shiral> I'm sure Brion did, too
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:28:12 PM] <Evie> how old is Xenia?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:28:27 PM] <KK> I'm not sure he has a county of his own; may be a younger son or brother of a landed count.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:28:38 PM] <KK> She's 17, I think.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:28:40 PM] <jemler> a Robism would name him the Count of Froyd!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:28:52 PM] * Evie smacks jemler with a mackerel so often, she's created a macro for it. *thwack!*
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:29:01 PM] <jemler> LOL!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:29:16 PM] <Evie> Sigismund Froyd? Really, jemler?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:29:26 PM] <jemler> Robism!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:29:59 PM] * Alkari goes ooking for frozen fish
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:30:14 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> That's a graoner, all right.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:30:24 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Ooops "groaner"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:30:27 PM] <Jerusha> Or maybe a grouper?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:30:38 PM] <Shiral> Froyd Slipped Up in Rhemuth
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:30:38 PM] <Evie> ow...that loud oof was all the air leaving my body as Luke jumps on my diaphragm. (That bit under my lungs, jemler, before you crack a joke about that! )
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:30:39 PM] <jemler> groper?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:30:44 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> His Grace is hitting me with his tail.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:08 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Hence the typo.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:09 PM] <jemler> lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:18 PM] <Shiral> Poor Xenia, first she gets seduced, then she has to MARRY the rotter
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:24 PM] <Evie> Luke purrs in your general direction
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:37 PM] <Jerusha> And go to live in Torenth
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:43 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Well, that's biblical.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:45 PM] <Evie> If she was seduced rather than coerced, she may have wanted to marry the rotter
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:31:46 PM] <Alkari> So KK - do the young ladies in Bremagne think that King Brion's page / squire is rather 'attractive'?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:05 PM] <Shiral> Since the king himself is mooning after their princess? =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:05 PM] <the_Bee> at age 10??
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:13 PM] <KK> Er, yes.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:20 PM] <KK> He's 12 now.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:25 PM] <jemler> why not? i was cute as a button at age 10!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:34 PM] <Shiral> He'll be shaving any time, now
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:39 PM] <Jerusha> boyishly handsome, I would think
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:49 PM] <the_Bee> ? I thought you said he'd just turned 10..
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:49 PM] <KK> Oh, yes.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:32:52 PM] <jemler> that too
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:33:08 PM] <Shiral> Bremagne matures Alaric, clearly. =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:33:13 PM] <Jerusha> Not at 12!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:33:14 PM] <Alkari> lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:33:29 PM] <Evie> What's the age span in this book, KK? I mean, it covers Alaric from what age to what age?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:34:17 PM] <KK> Ooops, meant to say he's 11, will turn 12 in September; this is May.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:34:35 PM] <KK> I'm thinking to end it with the birth of Kelson.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:34:45 PM] <DesertRose> Okay.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:35:08 PM] * Shiral orders Brion and Jehana a wedding cake....
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:35:15 PM] <Jerusha> So Alaric would be 14 or 15 at that time?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:35:28 PM] <Evie> Too young to marry even given their early age of majority, but given that Alaric is a duke, I can see the ladies lining up in hopes of catching his barely pubescent eye already. *sigh*
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:35:56 PM] <jemler> Evie. Duncan is watching!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:36:08 PM] <Shiral> I wonder if any of them will catch HIS eye...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:36:27 PM] <KK> He's 15 when Kelson is born.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:36:36 PM] <Evie> I was sighing at the thought of Alaric having to grow up so fast, jemler, not sighing over Alaric, who is quite the hottie, I'll admit, but my heart belongs to Duncan. ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:36:38 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Maryse does, long about then...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:03 PM] Join derynifanatic64 has joined this channel (Mibbit@OWIRCN-3f2f604b.mycingular.net).
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:08 PM] <Evie> hi, DF
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:10 PM] <jemler> hi df64
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:11 PM] <Jerusha> That's OK, Evie, I'll look after Alaric on your behalf!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:14 PM] <DesertRose> Hi derynifanatic64.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:15 PM] <Alkari> LOL. Yes, I think Alaric will probably seem older than his years in many ways, simply because of what he has already been through
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:19 PM] <the_Bee> Hi DF
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:22 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Hello df.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:26 PM] <Jerusha> Hi DF
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:28 PM] <Shiral> Excuse ME, Jerusha!Alaric is MINE!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:29 PM] <Evie> LOL! So altruistic of you, Jerusha. ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:31 PM] <Alkari> Jerusha, I'll come and help you!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:45 PM] <Jerusha> I'll take one for the team!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:37:48 PM] <Alkari> So the poor man has a bodyguard of three women, LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:38:00 PM] <Evie> And see, the catfighting over Alaric is just one of many reasons I'm happy to stick with Duncan instead. ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:38:08 PM] <Jerusha> Lucky Alaric!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:38:15 PM] <Shiral> More like Poor Archbishops who try to harm him
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:38:19 PM] <derynifanatic64> I'm on my iPhone
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[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:38:56 PM] <Alkari> gremlins
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:39:14 PM] <Evie> Wearing Luke is like cuddling up with the world's furriest heating pad
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:39:45 PM] <Jerusha> Whippets are much the same. They are the original definition of
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[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:39:53 PM] <Jerusha> "three dog night"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:39:57 PM] <Evie>
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:40:00 PM] <Shiral> At least it's a heating pad that purrs right?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:40:02 PM] <Evie> re-hi DF
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:40:08 PM] <the_Bee> WB DF
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:40:19 PM] <jemler> wb
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:40:32 PM] <derynifanatic64> I am on iphone
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:40:41 PM] <Alkari> The trouble with whippets Jerusha is that they have such short coats themselves, that THEY need to cuddle up to humans to keep warm!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:00 PM] <Jerusha> But it works for both of us.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:05 PM] <jemler> were whippets developed by Devo?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:17 PM] <Jerusha> Devo?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:28 PM] <derynifanatic64> tropical storm Debby is in gulf of Mexico
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:31 PM] <Shiral> So does Nigel come to Bremagne or stay home, KK?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:35 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> cue the macro...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:43 PM] * jemler ducks
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:48 PM] * Evie smacks jemler with a mackerel so often, she's created a macro for it. *thwack!*
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:52 PM] <KK> He stays home to regent while the king is out of the country.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:41:53 PM] <Jerusha> Please pass the fish...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:01 PM] <the_Bee> Is Nigel home minding the store?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:10 PM] <Shiral> Big job for a young prince
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:11 PM] <Evie> How old is Nigel now?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:23 PM] <derynifanatic64> Jemler in trouble again
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:24 PM] <Shiral> Larger than a bread box, hopefully
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:25 PM] <DesertRose> Eh, Nigel can handle it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:34 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> 20-ish, I think
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:46 PM] <Evie> has he married Meraude yet?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:48 PM] <Jerusha> Ah, has he cast his eye on Meraude yet?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:58 PM] <Evie> and did it stick or bounce off?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:59 PM] <Evie> ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:42:59 PM] <Shiral> He'd be in his late teens, I think
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:01 PM] <KK> Actually, it's Richard who is regent; but Nigel is still home, being the heir presumptive.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:02 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> & heir-presumptive for about a decade, yes?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:19 PM] <KK> (Gus is back, biting my rings.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:24 PM] <Evie> lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:29 PM] * Evie waves at Gus
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:38 PM] <derynifanatic64> Bad Gus
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:38 PM] <DesertRose> When my hair was really long, the cats I used to have liked to play with my braids.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:45 PM] <DesertRose> Silly Gus.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:53 PM] <the_Bee> Codex saysNigel was born in 1087
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:54 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> yeah, and His Grace is grabbing my hand as I type, complete with claws.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:43:59 PM] <jemler> wait a minute. if nigel is in his 20's, and Brion is older, why is there a regent? wouldn't Brion have been crowned art 14?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:05 PM] <Shiral> If I wear a blouse that has ties at the neck, Dmitri is constantly batting at them
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:19 PM] <DesertRose> Because Brion is out of the country in Bremagne. SOMEBODY has to mind the shop.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:21 PM] <Evie> regent in Brion's absence from the Kingdom, jemler
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:29 PM] <KK> Richard is regent, in that he's responsibe while Brion is out of the kingdom.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:43 PM] <jemler> but why wouldn't nigel be the regent, he's next in line
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:45 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Regent is a bit like the US VP. Nigel does the same jub for Kelson in the Chroonicles and KKB.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:47 PM] <Alkari> Same role as Nigel while Kelson was off at war in later books
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:44:47 PM] <the_Bee> regent or viceroy?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:45:02 PM] <Shiral> So who found out about Xenia and Count Sigismond?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:45:34 PM] <Shiral> Probably because of greater age and experience, Jemler
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:45:43 PM] <Jerusha> The Queen mother would still be around, then, wouldn't she? Xenia might confide in Mum
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:45:50 PM] <KK> I haven't specified. Alaric doesn't see that part.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:10 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Regent, in place of the king who can't do the job for a bit. Viceroy serves an active monarch in a distant place. Mountbatten was Viceroy India for QEII.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:13 PM] <KK> They're caught in flagrante, guys.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:24 PM] <Evie> oh dear...poor girl!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:27 PM] <DesertRose> Oh my.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:28 PM] <Alkari> I always think it fun to imagine what the pages, squires and servants think / hear about the goings on at court
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:32 PM] <DesertRose> Poor Xenia.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:39 PM] <Jerusha> Oh dear.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:46:39 PM] <Alkari>
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:47:06 PM] <jemler> they couldn't claim it was the hokey pokey!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:47:09 PM] <KK> I'm trying to show a lot of the action from Alaric's POV, which gets more observant as he gets older.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:47:10 PM] * jemler ducks again
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:47:13 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Kelson syas himself he knows what to do, having seen things at court; I presume the rest of the courtiers also get their info the same way.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:47:19 PM] <DesertRose> There's a thought. Do a story that's kind of like Downton Abbey or Upstairs Downstairs, except in Gwynedd.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:47:59 PM] <Alkari> That will be interesting, KK - often the servants and squires are "invisible" and people forget they are there.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:48:03 PM] <Shiral> Uh oh! BIG time blow up at the Court!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:48:19 PM] <KK> You may recall that things got fairly hot & heavy with Marie, though it's told after the fact.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:48:29 PM] <Alkari> Yes.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:48:43 PM] <Jerusha> Poor Marie
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:48:44 PM] <Evie> yes, and presumably not quite that hot and heavy when they were interrupted
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:48:44 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, Marie and Se were doing more than flirting but less than...well.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:49:04 PM] <derynifanatic64>
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:49:10 PM] <Jerusha> Se would have honoured Marie
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:49:23 PM] <derynifanatic64> Definitely
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:49:26 PM] <DesertRose> True, if Marie had lived long enough, he'd have married her.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:49:49 PM] <Shiral> I definitely have that impression
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:49:51 PM] <KK> With all those skirts and no underwear, things could get out of hand--er, out of control--before passers-by really knew what was going on.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:50:05 PM] <Evie> Probably a good thing Donal's dead; I can imagine him blowing a gasket when his baby girl is compromised. Sigismund might not have had a fun wedding night as a castrata....
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:50:05 PM] <Shiral> Although it would have been the anviller's loss..
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:50:11 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Anticipating that sort of committment was quite common then.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:50:38 PM] <DesertRose> Poor Xenia.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:50:47 PM] <Shiral> I'm sure Brion wasn't at ALL pleased!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:51:08 PM] <jemler> when he was suppossed to say "I do", he meant was "I already did"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:51:15 PM] * jemler ducks again
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:51:40 PM] <Jerusha> Would Brion have been able to have some influence on Xenia well being in Torenth?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:51:46 PM] <DesertRose> jemler, I'm going to beat you with a wet spaghetti noodle.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:51:56 PM] <jemler> lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:08 PM] * Shiral smacks Jemler with a lobster while he's distracted
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:10 PM] <Alkari> painful, DR :p
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:10 PM] <derynifanatic64> Use a wet whip
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:26 PM] <DesertRose> 50 lashes with a wet noodle.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:27 PM] <KK> He would try. Of course, she gets pregnant fairly quickly, and dies shortly after giving birth, so it al becomes moot.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:33 PM] * Evie searches her grimoire to see if there's a spell for turning jemler to a frog
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:36 PM] <Jerusha> Oh no!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:46 PM] Nick jemler is now known as Frog.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:48 PM] <the_Bee> That was Ann Landers' line when she made a mistake: she'd give herself 10 lashes with a wet nooddle.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:52:58 PM] <derynifanatic64> Hermione will help
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:53:05 PM] Nick Frog is now known as jemler.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:53:11 PM] <jemler> didn't last
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:53:15 PM] <Evie> Yeah, I remembered that bit about Xenia from the Codex, so I wondered how long lived her marriage would end up being
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:53:33 PM] <DesertRose> Poor Xenia, compromised and then killed off.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:53:34 PM] <Jerusha> Did the child live?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:53:37 PM] <Shiral> Poor Xenia, although she might just as easily have died having a child by a man she loved
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:53:40 PM] <KK> Nope.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:02 PM] <Jerusha> Probably just as well. *sigh*
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:05 PM] <Shiral> So is Sigismond a COMPLETE rotter, or simply apt to take things too quickly?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:06 PM] <KK> It was a daughter.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:20 PM] <Evie> Does Count Sigismund eventually have a painful and torturous death of the purple pox,or is that too much to hope for? ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:32 PM] <Alkari> bloodthirsty Evie
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:35 PM] <the_Bee> If Xenia was seduced and not raped, she may have wanted to marry the guy. Or thought she did.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:46 PM] <KK> I think he would have doted on a little Haldane heiress of his own.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:54:50 PM] <Jerusha> He's turned into a frog that gets eaten
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:55:06 PM] <Evie> Yes, he'd definitely have been "marrying up"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:55:08 PM] <derynifanatic64> And spitted out
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:55:24 PM] <KK> I think she thought she did. And marrying him was one act of defiance that no one could forbid her.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:55:32 PM] <Alkari> We re such a gentle, cheerful lot, aren't we!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:55:33 PM] <DesertRose> Oh joy.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:55:35 PM] <Jerusha> So he was actually fond of Xenia, not just a spur of the moment thing
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:55:58 PM] <Shiral> Given her alternative, I can understand her logic
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:56:14 PM] <Jerusha> Act of defiance? She was not happy?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:56:17 PM] <Shiral> She'd hardly have wanted to be walled up in a convent somewhere
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:56:33 PM] <the_Bee> defying her family, I think
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:56:40 PM] <Shiral> Or referred to in whispers as the naughty princess
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:56:42 PM] <Evie> in that case, if he cared for her, he can live to regret his rash actions instead of dying a torturous purple-pox ridden death. :-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:57:12 PM] <KK> I think the seduction was planned, but I think he really was fond of her. And she was tired of being under her mother's thumb, wanted to sample the delectations of womanhood.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:57:33 PM] <Shiral> AKA, "grew up in a hurry"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:57:35 PM] <Evie> Ah. So she had a bad case of being seventeen. :-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:57:47 PM] <Shiral> So was it Brion himself who caught her?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:57:51 PM] <KK> She was 17, after all, fairly old for a princess to be unwed. But Brion hadn't yet begun thinking about matches for his sisters. He probably still thought of them as little girls.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:58:00 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> It likely didn't help knowing she would have little choice in a mate anyway. Not all women embrace the patriarchy.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:58:20 PM] <KK> No, it wasn't Brion who found them.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:58:35 PM] <the_Bee> "If I let him seduce me, they'll have to let us marry."
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:58:46 PM] <Evie> I imagine Brion would have cared enough for his sisters to have given them some say in who they ended up marrying, though
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:58:52 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> I think it's been done before, Bee.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:58:58 PM] <Shiral> So... is Count Sigismund a "hottie"?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:12 PM] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:13 PM] <jemler> or a rottie?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:23 PM] <Shiral> It's possible to be both!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:24 PM] <KK> He's dashing, foreign, skilled with women....
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:26 PM] <derynifanatic64> Or both
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:29 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> True, Evie, but she would still be in the same position Alyce was vis-a-vis Donal.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:31 PM] <jemler> obviously
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:44 PM] <jemler> NC
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [07:59:56 PM] <Evie> Yes, but perhaps Brion was more like his son in his sensitivities than like his father
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:00:15 PM] <Jerusha> And Xenia was tired of waiting...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:01:00 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> I wonder if he didn't avoid the issue too long, much as he avoided the issue between Alaric and Jehana?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:01:04 PM] <jemler> why would a princess wait? she'd be one of the most eligble bachelorettes in the 11 kingdoms!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:01:36 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> It's not entirely her call, jemler, or even largely hers.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:01:41 PM] <Shiral> But then she might get stuck with a staid old duke who was neither a hottie nor a rottie!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:04 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Alyce was worried about the same thing, in ITKS.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:05 PM] <Shiral> Luxurious boredom for the rest of her husband's lifetime
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:11 PM] <Evie> Yes, jemler, but she couldn't entertain a suitor until she had royal permission, and she was expected to wait until she was married before getting to the "fun stuff"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:16 PM] <derynifanatic64> A nottie
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:31 PM] <Jerusha> They did not all wait
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:41 PM] <jemler> Zenia didn't
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:46 PM] <Shiral> And there was Count Sigismond who would be a 17 year-old princess' idea of "fun"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:02:51 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Nope, that's why there were rules about such things.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:00 PM] <Evie> There's a difference between what was expected and what actually happened. :-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:10 PM] <Jerusha> Dhugal was known to sneak a kiss or two
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:11 PM] <jemler> how old was Sigiu?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:20 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> "Shotgun weddings" before the shotgun was invented.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:22 PM] <Alkari> Only two, Jerusha?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:32 PM] <Evie> swordpoint wedding
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:35 PM] <Shiral> Okay, so the Trebuchet Wedding."
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:36 PM] <Jerusha> I wasn't counting...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:36 PM] <Alkari> I think it is "swordpoint weddings"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:37 PM] <derynifanatic64> And finally made girls kiss him
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:03:45 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Quite.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:04:04 PM] <derynifanatic64> Conall made girls kiss him
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:04:21 PM] <Jerusha> Though Dhugal might have been counting...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:04:24 PM] <jemler> the Crossbow Cohabitation Clause of the Marriage Rite!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:04:25 PM] <Shiral> Having a bishop for a father would be a bit of a natural brake for Dhugal's libido, I think
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:04:28 PM] <Evie> I suspect there weren't too many girls complaining about being caught behind the drapes by the cute young Earl of Transha. :-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:04:47 PM] <Alkari> No. I hope her father has eagle eyes though
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:04:59 PM] <Shiral> Rory and Noelie got down to business, also.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:10 PM] <Evie> He might have just learned to be more discreet, Shiral
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:13 PM] <Shiral> As did Kelson with both Rothana and Araxie
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:16 PM] <jemler> pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, he's just entertaining your sister!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:27 PM] <Alkari> Hmmm - I can see Alaric and Richenda taking notes about the need for chaperones for Briony in a few years!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:40 PM] <Shiral> They'd best start NOW. =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:44 PM] <Jerusha> I'm thinking an armed guard
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:47 PM] <Evie> I pity poor Briony when she gets to courtship age!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:58 PM] <Shiral> Alaric won't let her go easily!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:05:58 PM] <derynifanatic64> Armed to the teeth
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:06:00 PM] <the_Bee> Silence thickens.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:06:33 PM] <Jerusha> Brave be the young lord who asks for Briony's hand
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:06:54 PM] <Shiral> He'll have to be brave--Alalric wouldn't stomach a craven son-in-law!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:04 PM] <jemler> and the guy who asks for the rest of her!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:08 PM] * jemler ducks again
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:20 PM] <Jerusha> I need a bigger fish....
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:28 PM] <Evie> "Your Grace, m-m-may I have Briony's hand?" "Well, that's up to her, but wouldn't you want the rest of her too?" ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:34 PM] * Shiral smacks Jemler with a Duck
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:37 PM] <Alkari> rofl @ Evie
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:41 PM] * Evie loads up a catapult with a basket of sardines and lays siege to jemler's head
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:07:50 PM] <derynifanatic64> Great white shark
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:08:04 PM] <jemler> why ya pickin on me!? Evie did it tii!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:08:10 PM] <jemler> too
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:08:21 PM] <Alkari> Yes but you are such a nice target!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:08:22 PM] <KK> BRB
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:08:44 PM] <Evie> Because I'm sweet and you're...jemler.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:08:52 PM] <Shiral> I wonder if Briony might end up with one of the Orsal's sons...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:08:54 PM] <jemler> oh. ok then
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:09:08 PM] <Jerusha> Or someone from Andelon
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:09:21 PM] <Shiral> Just a nice boat ride away from a visit with Papa...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:09:37 PM] <jemler> or a portal jump
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:09:52 PM] <Shiral> After they build the Coroth Portal
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:10:39 PM] * Evie forcibly evicts Luke from her lap before she roasts
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:00 PM] <Evie> He's stalking off looking offended
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:13 PM] <KK> Back
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:17 PM] <Evie> wb
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:20 PM] <derynifanatic64> Is Luke being bad
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:22 PM] <Jerusha> He was probably comfy
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:32 PM] <Evie> HE was comfy; *I* was roasting.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:50 PM] <Evie> and my arms were going slightly numb
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:11:51 PM] <Shiral> So how does the King of Bremagne view the King of Gwynedd wooing his daughter?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:12:01 PM] <jemler> he's coming this way. must smell the fish.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:12:06 PM] <the_Bee> Melantha seems quite content with the floor.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:12:31 PM] <the_Bee> and maybe listening to the sparrows.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:12:42 PM] <Jerusha> Whippets are underneath the pillows on the couch
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:13:09 PM] <Evie> Bee, my current novel-in-progress has a character in it named Meliora. I started to type Melantha the other day; no idea why. :-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:14:22 PM] <Evie> .
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:14:32 PM] <KK> We've met the King of Bremagne at the investiture of the new Hort of Orsal. He was a bit in his cups, but reminding Brion that he has 3 daughters who will soon be looking for husbands.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:14:50 PM] <Evie>
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:14:53 PM] <Jerusha> So Jehana has two sisters?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:15:05 PM] <the_Bee> and a brother, Ryol.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:15:08 PM] <jemler> wasn't that a movie?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:15:28 PM] <Shiral> So Brion has a pretty easy road, there. =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:15:28 PM] <Evie> Sounds like he'd welcome Brion as a son in law, then. Probably put out the best royal welcome mat in his honor.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:15:43 PM] <Shiral> Get out the best trenchers and goblets. =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:15:56 PM] <Shiral> Call in the dressmaker, too
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:15:59 PM] <Alkari> Ah - quite a marriage market in Bremagne, KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:16:10 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Well, isn't gwynedd the bigger and richer kingdom of the two?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:16:13 PM] <KK> Yes, but she's the oldest.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:16:25 PM] <Shiral> First in, first out. =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:16:29 PM] <jemler> and they have better bows
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:16:35 PM] <Jerusha> Was the King of Bremagne Deryni?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:16:36 PM] <Evie> I've got some rosemary crackers that make great trenchers...oh, they'd probably need some in 1:1 scale instead, hm?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:16:38 PM] <Shiral> Are her sisters still living?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:17:03 PM] <KK> Yes, at this time--1103.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:17:05 PM] <Shiral> And are they as buggy on the Deryni issue as Jehana used to be?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:17:26 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Well, she got her internalized categorism from somewhere.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:17:28 PM] <KK> It's a complicated family dynamic.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:17:45 PM] <Evie> Given Jehana's feelings about Deryni, if her parents (or one of them) were Deryni as well, did she know, and how did she feel about that if she did?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:18:06 PM] <Shiral> To say the least, I'm sure, KK!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:18:15 PM] <the_Bee> The CC regarded Jehana as full Deryni, IIRC.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:18:38 PM] <jemler> maybe she just repressed her memories. saw only what she wanted to see.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:18:38 PM] <Jerusha> IIRC, her convent education derailed whatever her original views on Deryni might have been
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:19:10 PM] <Evie> probably not her parents' original intent when they sent her off for a convent education
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:19:25 PM] <KK> Since this information doesn't surface until DR, I don't have to deal wtih it too much in this book, nos do I?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:19:33 PM] <the_Bee> Did Bremagne have an equivalent of the "Haldane gigt?"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:19:33 PM] <jemler> the irish comedian Dave Allen said "Between my parents and the church, these brains are scrammbled
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:19:34 PM] <KK> now
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:19:35 PM] <jemler> "
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:19:48 PM] <Shiral> Alas, we've already read the earlier books, KK. =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:19 PM] <jemler> several times
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:26 PM] <Evie> and even though some may never end up in print, knowing the backstory just helps make for a richer world. Or that's my POV and I'm sticking to it. ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:27 PM] <Alkari> But we don't need to see Jehana's anti-Deryni education. And obviously Brion didn't know when he married her
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:29 PM] <derynifanatic64> Be right back
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:29 PM] <Jerusha> And both editions
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[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:51 PM] <Shiral> And then the Codex. =o)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:53 PM] <jemler> wb
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:20:57 PM] <Evie> rehi DF
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:21:00 PM] <the_Bee> rehi
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:21:01 PM] <Alkari> Because if he had known, it might have made things different in terms of his approach to the Jehana / Alaric dynamic
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:21:05 PM] <derynifanatic64> moved from iphone to computer
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:21:21 PM] <Shiral> Well, maybe Brion's hormones were in overdrive and HE only saw in her what he wanted to see!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:21:42 PM] <Jerusha> Or he thought he could win her over, over time
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:21:54 PM] <jemler> hot redheaded princess of marriagable age!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:21:58 PM] <Alkari> Yes to both. But I wonder how much he DID see?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:22:01 PM] <Evie> "She's gorgeous, I need an heir, so let's get on her...erm, that right away!"
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:22:08 PM] <Shiral> Take her away from Bremagne and mellow her out a bit
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:22:24 PM] <jemler> he should have used more Fianna red
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:22:35 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Brion had his own tensions with his clergy, too. He may not have wished to have them on her about it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:22:44 PM] <Jerusha> He had enough Bremagne red!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:22:46 PM] <Shiral> On Jehana or himself, Jemler!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:23:00 PM] <jemler> it works both ways
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:23:55 PM] <Shiral> According to DR, Alaric had quite the adolescent crush on Jehana himself
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:24:13 PM] <jemler> so did half the pages
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:24:24 PM] <KK> It's going to be a tricky balancing act, I'll grant you.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:24:30 PM] <Shiral> So what was the matter with the REST of the pages??
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:24:34 PM] <Jerusha> And probably all the squires
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:24:40 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Adn the persecutions in Gwynedd were very old news by this time; so her father may have considered discretion to be prudent.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:25:33 PM] <jemler> or they blocked her memories of being Deryni
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:26:12 PM] <derynifanatic64> or she just put it out of her mind and just denied being Deryni
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:26:25 PM] <Evie> If he knew that Jehana had developed anti-Deryni feelings in her convent years, he might have thought he was doing her a favor, allowing her to marry a King of an anti-Deryni kingdom, and not realizing that Brion had pro-Deryni sentiments and was best friend to a Deryni
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:26:52 PM] <Evie> "He" in that statement meaning the King of Bremagne, that is
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:27:33 PM] <Alkari> But did Jehana's parents know they themselves were Deryni?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:27:41 PM] <Evie> Even if he was Deryni and accepted what he was, he might have thought she'd be happier and would live with a clearer conscience as Queen of Gwynedd
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:28:04 PM] <Evie> Dunno. They may have just thought they had "royal powers" due to being royal
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:28:05 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> True Evie, it might seem on the surface to be a good plan. The Haldane powers are tied up in the divine right of kings, which I'm sure he also enjoyed. It might not occur to him to think there was an actual power involved...
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:28:42 PM] <Shiral> Wonder how he felt after he heard accounts of Brion's defeat of the Marluk!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:28:53 PM] <jemler> could they have blocked her memories as a child, and more or less groomed here to marry the Haldane? sort of like Vera being raised by a human family?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:28:54 PM] <Evie> but since Jehana evidently knew what she was, even if she was in tortured denial, that makes me think her parents probably knew also
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:29:28 PM] <Jerusha> If the CC knew Jehana was Deryni, would they secretly approve of the addition of additional Deryni blood to the Haldane line?
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:29:32 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Not clear, Lakari. That "guardian angel" that she gave Kelson in KKB turns out to be a Torenthi-style depiction of Gabriel (see KKB).
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:29:35 PM] <the_Bee> In DR, Alaric wondered if Jehana knew she was Deryni, or merely feared it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:29:58 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Sorry Alkari, His Grace is grabbing my hands again.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:30:26 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> They discuss the matter when Kelson compares it to his investiture robes.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:30:38 PM] <Alkari> Yes, but I am not sure if she knows what it was
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:31:08 PM] <Alkari> She feels it is 'special', but don't know if she realised the Deryni significance
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:31:21 PM] <Shiral> Jehana probably has formidable powers of total denial.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:31:23 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> He and Morgan and Dhugal aren't too sure if Jehana realied what it was, but they do think her prayers added to the energy stored in it, much as meditation adds to that chapel.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:31:33 PM] <jemler> and the line of Furstan married all over the place. even Morgan has some Furstan blood.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:32:45 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Also true Shiral.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:33:20 PM] <derynifanatic64> Jehana has since given up her powers of denial
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:33:54 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Yes, most dramatically in the Histories and KKB.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:33:56 PM] <Evie> yep, Baldilocks has been a good influence on her. ;-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:05 PM] <Jerusha> But she can't undo what she lost because of it
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:11 PM] <KK> Well, guys, I'd better get back to work. Thanks for the input. I hope to have good progress to r eport again next week.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:26 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, thanks for dropping in, KK. Have a good week!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:27 PM] <Evie> huzzah to more progress! :-)
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:29 PM] <Jerusha> Happy writing, KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:30 PM] <derynifanatic64> have a great week
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:32 PM] <KK> Baldilocks? Of course!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:41 PM] <the_Bee> nighterts, KK. Good week and good writing.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:44 PM] <Alkari> Thanks for dropping by KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:46 PM] <KK> LOL, you guys are the best!
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:48 PM] <Alkari> Happy writing.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:34:49 PM] <BalanceTheEnergies> Good night KK.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:35:02 PM] <Evie> g'night
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:35:07 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:35:09 PM] <the_Bee> thanks for coming, KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:35:12 PM] <jemler> nite kk
[Sunday, June 24, 2012] [08:35:23 PM] <jemler> we know
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