KK Chat -- 17 Apr 2011

[DesertRose]

[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:11] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:17] <Shiral> Hello, KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:19] <Alkari> Hi - this is weird as I only have a TINY web window for this.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:19] <the_Bee> hello KK!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:21] <Evie> Hi, KK!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:27] <derynifanatic64> 4it is small
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:31] <jemler> KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:31] <Evie> at least you got here just in time
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:34] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:35] <jemler> kk
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:47] <derynifanatic64> 4hi KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:48] <Alkari> Hi KK.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:16:49] <Evie> Low attendance today because the Rhemuth Castle's chatroom is acting up, KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:00] <jemler> guess you're not using Mibbit!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:08] <Alkari> The transfer portals need maintenance
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:15] <KK> Hmmm. I come in via mIRC.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:15] <Shiral> We may lack numbers, but we're high in sophistication. =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:21] <jemler> ONly the cream of the crop could get in!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:23] <Alkari> LOL
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:24] <KK> Of course.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:26] <Evie> that's right. ;-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:34] <Alkari> Thanksto Evie, I made it
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:42] <derynifanatic64> 4we need denis arilan to fix the transfer portals
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:57] <Alkari> Don't trust him!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:17:57] <Evie> Thanks to DF explaining how he got here even though his logon info says he's on Mibbit.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:05] <Shiral> Is he moonlighting as a repair man now? =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:07] <the_Bee> He'd probably set them as trap portals.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:16] <Alkari> I think I'd rather Azim
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:35] <jemler> you mean we'd be trapped here? Yeah!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:37] <KK> Azim seems to have a lot of knowledge going for him.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:39] <derynifanatic64> 4otherworlders site also uses mibbit
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:50] <Shiral> I'd spend an hour with Azim with great pleasure....
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:18:57] <Evie> I'd trust Denis. At least with anything I don't mind the CC knowing about. ;-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:19:07] <Alkari> There are men in cherrypicker 'thing' doiing glass replacements on our windows here, so I am staying here for a while so they can do mine and I see there are no problems.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:19:29] <Alkari> Good excuse NOT to go to work!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:19:42] <Evie> so if we hear a large crash and some Aussie swearing, that means there are problems?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:19:43] <Shiral> I've always had the impression that Azim has a pretty good grasp on the facts of life.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:20:36] <Alkari> Yes @ Shiral - he's an intriguing character.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:20:43] <jemler> Do Muslims allow their priests to marry?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:21:09] <jemler> that might explain his grasp of life. he has one.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:21:12] <Evie> yes, I think imams marry
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:21:16] <Shiral> And a bit cognizant of Alaric Morgan's worth,which can't help but endear him to me. =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:21:29] <derynifanatic64> 4he is obviously a moderate
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:21:43] <Alkari> LOL @ Shiral - agree totally
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:22:00] <Evie> Everyone in the entire freaking Deryniverse except the men I fall in love with marry.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:22:14] <Shiral> I sometimes wonder if he sits in the Council chambers listening to his fellow CCers and wondering "What's UP with these people???
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:22:14] <Alkari> And he seems to have a wioder perspective on matters, and perhaps a better understanding of the future directions for the Deryni now
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:22:25] <Alkari> LOL.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:22:41] <Alkari> The CC is really at the crossroads now
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:22:52] <Alkari> Sion seemed fairly sensible too
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:23:48] <Shiral> I hope they'll start taking a more forward-thinking view of matters in the XI Kingdoms with Vivienne dead. Certainly Azim and Vivienne had different ideas about the merits of a Haldane/Haldane marriage
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:06] <Evie> Wait, do I remember correctly that, according to the Codex, Saer de Traherne doesn't have a wife yet? OK, maybe there's hope i can find at least one male in Gwynedd who isn't in a cassock or else so young I want to offer him milk and cookies.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:22] <Shiral> There's always Derry for that, Evie
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:24] <Alkari> KK, I *loved* those pics of your fur family, BTW
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:30] <Alkari> LOL @ Evie
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:33] <derynifanatic64> 4vivienne always seem to not like a double haldane marriage
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:36] <Shiral> He's definitely not a man who's about to put on a cassock
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:40] <Shiral> Nor is Dhugal
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:48] <Evie> yes, it was nice seeing pictures for the fur kids
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:24:58] <KK> Tee-hee. THey're cuties, aren't they?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:25:06] <Alkari> Loved the pic of cat in basin
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:25:24] <Evie> the ginger tabby reminds me of my Luke
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:25:31] <KK> Tillie is also partial to sinks, especially in the winter.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:25:31] <Shiral> I see they line up at dinner time with that typically expectant look of hungry animals without opposable thumbs
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:25:33] <Alkari> He looks so comfortable
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:25:33] <Evie> yes, that was my favorite picture of the lot
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:26:04] <Alkari> Do the cats line up too?!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:26:28] <Evie> Lordy, mine do, and they herd me towards the kitchen if I'm not walking that way fast enough
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:26:41] <derynifanatic64> 4feed me feed me
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:27:05] <Shiral> Dmitri's favorite morning prank is to knock my clock radio off the bedside table
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:27:50] <Alkari> Wake up OR ELSE!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:27:52] <Evie> If I don't respond to the alarm fast enough, and the cats are in the hall, I get door scratching to wake me
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:28:33] <derynifanatic64> 4:s
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:28:33] <the_Bee> Melantha licks my face to wake me. If I don't respond she nips me.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:28:35] <Shiral> Pretty much Alkari
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:28:47] <Shiral> Francesca sits on my pillow and gnaws on my hair
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:28:47] <Evie> Oh, Alkari, I got one of the "Jeeves" alarm message recordings by Stephen Fry to put in my phone for my morning alarm.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:28:56] <Shiral> I've got cats who mean business
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:29:03] <Alkari> rofl @ jeeves. Great way to wake up.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:29:52] <KK> I've heard that the Jeeves alarm is really great.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:30:04] <jemler> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/aef3/
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:30:10] <Alkari> I am looking at getting that for my brother
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:30:21] <Alkari> Or me!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:30:27] <Evie> http://www.voco.uk.com/
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:30:55] <Evie> You can hear voice samples at this site, and there's some downloads. I forget if I got mine here or elsewhere...wherever it was, they were free samples
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:31:05] <Alkari> Stayed at lovely old guesthouse on Saturday night, where we nearly expected the butler to appear.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:31:42] <Alkari> The owner did - we had sherry and canapes in the parlour with a fire before dinner, then dinner, then port and chocolates back in the parlour afterwards
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:32:00] <derynifanatic64> 4fancy, schmancy
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:32:05] <Evie> Nice!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:32:08] <Alkari> All we needed was the butler and his silver tray.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:32:12] <jemler> Where you finally met the spider?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:32:22] <Alkari> No spiders :p
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:32:32] <Evie> No, jemler, they had port and chocolates, not curds and whey
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:32:57] <Alkari> And I sat in a lovelyt velveteen armchair, not on a tuffet
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:33:02] <Evie> speaking of chocolate, it's time for me to raid my hoard of choccies DH got me last weekend.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:33:12] <jemler> should i dop Andrew Dice Clay's rendition of Little Miss Muffet?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:33:32] <Alkari> Day was misty and coll, typical southern highlands weather
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:33:37] <Alkari> *cool
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:33:53] <Evie> So, KK, how is our favorite story coming along?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:01] <the_Bee> Is it really dopey, Jemler?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:04] * Shiral just finished my last chocolate easter egg from my stash....
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:06] <Alkari> then we judged / watched dressage on Sunday
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:25] <Evie> the last one, Shiral? It's not even Easter yet!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:32] <Shiral> Well, I know
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:39] <Alkari> Yes KK, we are getting desperate to know what happens to poor little Alaric, who is at least down from the tree
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:48] <derynifanatic64> 4shiral couldn't wait for easter
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:34:48] <KK> I've backtracked a bit to lay in some needed background.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:35:18] <Evie> Ah. Futzing, as Annie would say.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:35:22] <Alkari> lol
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:35:27] <Shiral> These are not easter eggs I share with ANYBODY. They're not drugstore choccies, either. These are first rate chocolate easter eggs, and I fear I'll need another stash..
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:35:31] <jemler> no, but is has profanity (as apposed to amatuerfanity!)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:36:14] <Shiral> Alaric discovers fountain of youth? =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:36:15] <Alkari> Will the book to up to the Marluk battle, or beyond, KK?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:36:32] * Evie would thwack jemler for punning, but he'd enjoy it
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:36:33] <jemler> to up to?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:36:39] <jemler> LOL
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:36:41] <Alkari> *go
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:36:56] <jemler> to up to go?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:07] * jemler ducks
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:12] <derynifanatic64> 4to go up to
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:20] * Alkari whacks jemler on the head with frying pan
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:23] <jemler> up go to to
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:46] <KK> At least through the
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:48] <the_Bee> uptogo
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:48] * Evie plays Stephen Fry's "Jeeves" sound clips at jemler
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:37:49] <KK> arluk battle.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:38:06] <Alkari> Oh good. Alaric wasn't even 14 then
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:38:09] <KK> Marluk battle.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:38:16] <Alkari> So still very young really
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:38:36] <Shiral> "Well the Marluk is dead... but his older, meaner brother the Arluk is still at large..."
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:38:41] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:38:49] <derynifanatic64> 4:D
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:38:49] <Evie> I was just thinking that, Shiral!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:03] <Alkari> Wencit's middle name
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:10] <derynifanatic64> 4Ogan Gwernach
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:28] <Alkari> Wencit a.k.a. Arluk
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:39] <Alkari> to my friends
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:41] <Shiral> It sounds rather like one of those migratory birds; the great snowy Arluk....
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:47] <Evie>
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:51] <Alkari> rofl
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:39:52] <derynifanatic64> 4and his daughter Harissa
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:40:00] <Alkari> Hot stuff
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:40:06] <Evie> ROFL! Yeah, she's a spicy wench
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:40:11] <KK> Absolutely
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:40:19] <derynifanatic64> 4a now spicy dead wench
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:40:37] <Shiral> But well-preserved on account of all the spices
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:40:46] <Evie> a bit less spicy now that she's all corpsified and gross. With due apologies to Joss Whedon for the line.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:40:47] <Alkari> I don't think Ian Howell had any real idea of 'who' he was tangling with back in DR
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:41:08] <derynifanatic64> 4he found out at the end
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:41:30] <the_Bee> Didn't Charissa's body dissolve into nothingness when Kelson killed her?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:41:50] <Shiral> Yup She got downsized
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:41:57] <Alkari> her atoms are still floating round the Cathedral
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:05] <Evie> But I couldn't resist the opportunity to trot out a good Firefly line
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:14] Nick You are now known as DesertRose.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:23] <the_Bee> wb DR
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:24] <DesertRose> Hi KK, hi everybody.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:28] <Evie> hi, DR
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:28] <Alkari> hi DR
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:30] <Shiral> Hi DR
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:31] <derynifanatic64> 4hi DR
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:33] <DesertRose> I'm still in the process of moving.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:35] * Evie says hello and offers you a goblet of Fianna wine
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:42] <derynifanatic64> 4how's the move going
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:50] <DesertRose> Staying at the folks' house tonight to house- and cat-sit.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:42:50] * Shiral gets DR a butler to help with the moving
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:43:01] <jemler> hi dr
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:43:02] * Alkari offers something even stronger - a bottle of good HIghlands malt
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:43:05] <Evie> I figured you were there since you're able to log chat tonight
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:43:52] <KK> How fr have you moved?"
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:44:22] <DesertRose> Just across the city.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:44:35] <DesertRose> Into my own place and out of my parents' house.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:44:47] <KK> This is always a good thing.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:44:52] <Alkari> YAY for independence
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:44:56] <DesertRose> I've got most of my stuff moved and settled in.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:45:09] <derynifanatic64> 4:)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:45:10] <Evie> Yay!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:45:12] <Shiral> Independence and privacy are both good for all parties
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:45:21] <DesertRose> I just need to unload my room here at my parents' house and put all that stuff away, and buy groceries and I'll be moved in.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:45:41] <jemler> according to my map of my home town, if i moved across the city, i'd only be moving avout 5 inches!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:45:49] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:45:50] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:46:05] <DesertRose> I live in the largest city in terms of land area in the contiguous 48 states.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:46:13] * Alkari tries to imagine miniscule jemler
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:46:16] <DesertRose> There's some place in Alaska that
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:46:26] <DesertRose> that's more spread out than Jacksonville, but that's it.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:46:46] <derynifanatic64> 4jacksonville takes up all of Duval county
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:46:49] <Evie> DH just got home.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:46:57] <DesertRose> Yup.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:47:29] <Evie> I didn't realize it was that big
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:47:34] <DesertRose> Yeah, it is.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:47:41] <jemler> DR, just out of curiosity, what is the name of the county seat?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:47:55] <DesertRose> It's not that large in terms of population, or in terms of sophistication and urbanity either.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:48:14] * DesertRose smacks jemler with a trout.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:48:34] <jemler> something smells fishy in here
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:48:35] <Evie> It just sprawls like a drunken giraffe?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:49:05] <Evie> jacksonville, that is, not the trout
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:49:48] <DesertRose> Yes, exactly like a drunken giraffe.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:50:30] * Alkari tries to imagine sity with sprawled neck and splayed legs
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:50:47] <jemler> how do you get a giraffe drunk?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:50:48] <Evie> That's a great mental picture. I'll have to use that as a spaceship name sometime. Or else a tavern or inn name
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:04] <Shiral> It requires a really long straw and a ladder, Jemler
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:14] <Alkari> KK, when do you think you will have CM3 finished?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:15] <Evie> they're a bit lumpy going down one's throat
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:18] <derynifanatic64> 4and a lot of booze
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:25] <DesertRose> The Drunken Giraffe would be a great tavern name.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:26] <Evie> it's hard to drink a giraffe
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:30] <jemler> just remember, Deep Throat was not a movie about giraffes!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:35] * Alkari is hopeful for Christmas 2011 ....
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:41] <Alkari> ROFL @ movie
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:47] <Shiral> Well, some booze, I don't imagine Giraffe's are heavy drinkers
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:49] <KK> Hopefully end of June.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:51:56] <Alkari> YAY!!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:02] <DesertRose> YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:02] <Evie> That soon? great!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:04] <the_Bee> Would folks in the 11 Kingdoms have ever seen a giraffe?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:10] * Alkari does happy dance
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:14] <Evie> and knowing how real life works, I'll translate that to end of September. ;-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:31] <derynifanatic64> 4:D:D
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:31] <Alkari> So we place our orders for Christmas!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:42] <the_Bee> Yes!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:52:56] Join BalanceTheEnergies has joined this channel (~chatzilla@4CA975.B91138.F7A48A.7175AF).
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:06] <the_Bee> hi BTE
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:08] <Evie> Dunno, but most folks in medieval Britain wouldn't have seen many lions or leopards, but you see them in heraldry, so I can imagine them in signage too.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:09] <DesertRose> Hi BalanceTheEnergies.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:10] <BalanceTheEnergies> Hello all
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:13] <Shiral> Hi BTE
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:18] <jemler> ni BTE
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:24] <derynifanatic64> 4hi bte
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:28] <Alkari> Hello BTE
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:32] <Evie> Hi, BTE
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:34] <KK> If it takes until the end of September, I'm in big trouble. Gotta get it done in the next few months.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:35] <BalanceTheEnergies> Have I missed much?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:52] <Alkari> So do we then get CM4, taking us up to DR?!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:53] <DesertRose> BRB, tea.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:54] <Evie> Just an hour's worth, BTE.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:53:56] <KK> Orders for first of year.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:00] <Shiral> Poor Kenneth--I'm afraid now he'll really have to die
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:12] <Evie> Nooooooo....
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:18] <Alkari> Yes. Poor Alaric - he's lost so many people he loves over his life
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:18] <KK> Yep. I'm laying in stuff now to go with that event.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:27] * Evie looks resigned at thought of Kenneth dying
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:42] <derynifanatic64> 4:(
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:49] <Shiral> On the other hand, that will mean Alaric can start hanging around with Brion
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:51] <Shiral> =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:54:54] <Evie> assuming it goes to publisher on schedule, what's the hopeful print date?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:55:26] <the_Bee> and do you have a title yet?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:55:49] <KK> That would be sheerest speculation. Ditto the title.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:56:19] <Evie> and do you write in a chronologically linear fashion (i.e., in the order that events occur), or jump back and forth when writing scenes, then put them in order and connect the dots?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:56:40] <Evie> I absolutely can't do the latter, but I know some authors can
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:56:55] <Alkari> I do that quite a lot
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:57:28] <KK> Mostly I write in chron order, but I go back to later in necessary stuff.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:57:37] <Evie> I'd be a drunken sot with my hair snatched out by the roots if i try writing non-linearly.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:57:44] <Alkari> lol
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:58:06] <Alkari> Sometimes I get inspiration for a scene that has to come much later, so I write it
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:58:15] <Evie> I might go back and edit earlier stuff, but I rarely add in anything substantial once I'm on to the following scenes.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:58:22] <Alkari> otherwise the ideas go
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:59:09] <Evie> Oh, I get those too, but if I try actually writing the scene that far ahead of time, by the time I get there I have to do so much rewriting, it's not really worth the bother of doing it that first time. Not when jotting down some notes will suffice.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:59:22] <Shiral> Sometimes my ideas surprise me by solving problems for me in ways I don't expect
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:59:31] <Alkari> Yes @ SHiral
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:59:38] <Evie> yes, I get those Eureka moments. Usually at the wheel or in the shower
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [19:59:49] <Evie> DH threatens to buy me a grease pencil for writing on the shower walls
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:12] <Alkari> waterproof recorder
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:17] <DesertRose> Okay, heading out for ice cream. Good to see you, KK. I'll post the chat log when I get back.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:18] <the_Bee> When you writer-types begin a story, do you usually to have some idea of where it will end up?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:18] <Shiral> IF I wrote in the shower, it would be some pretty incredible graffiti in my shower stall
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:23] Nick You are now known as DR_afk.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:26] <Alkari> though he probably reckons you already talk underwater
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:42] <BalanceTheEnergies> : D
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:00:54] <KK> Always have to know basicaklly where and how it ends.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:01:11] <KK> Happy ice cream, Desert Rose.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:01:12] <Alkari> Yes. I often write the ending almost at the start
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:01:21] <Shiral> This is generally helpful, yes
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:01:25] <derynifanatic64> 4ICE CREAM!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:01:41] <Evie> Almost always, Bee, though on rare occasion I don't discover the end (or I find out what I thought was going to be the end isn't really) about halfway through.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:01:50] <Evie> but usually I know what I'm heading towards from the outset
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:02:03] <BalanceTheEnergies> I suppose it helps to know where one is going.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:02:05] <Evie> it's the middle where I'm usually waiting for the miracle to occur.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:03:10] <Evie> but with a good enough start, the characters tend to take over for me and tell me how to get to the intended goal. Or else give me a better goal to end up at.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:03:23] <Alkari> LOL. I know where I am going with my current fic, though not quite sure how I work in current scene with little Kelric insisting to his father that he is a fierce dragon
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:03:47] <BalanceTheEnergies> not a gryphon?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:03:49] <Alkari> though he sometimes likes to be a gryphon.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:03:55] <the_Bee> who's a dragon--Alaric or Kelric?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:03:57] <BalanceTheEnergies> Oh OK then
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:03:59] <Evie> since if I try to force them towards something that's out of character, i get whacked upside the head by mulish characters saying "No, we WON'T! This is OUR story, and who do you think you are, typist?!"
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:04:01] <Alkari> He is three - he changes his mind!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:04:23] <BalanceTheEnergies> :-D
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:04:30] <Alkari> Occasionally he is a brave knight, but it's more fun to be a dragon
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:04:33] <derynifanatic64> 4:D
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:05:11] <Shiral> Hope he doesn't try to breathe fire at anyone. =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:05:11] <Evie> KK, do you ever think you know where a story is heading, only to have your own characters tell you "No, dear, we wouldn't do that, and if you only stop to think about it a bit more, you'll know why"?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:06:22] <KK> Not in so many words, but sometimes it becomes very clear that I'm headed in the wrong direction, or it's fromt he wrong character's POV.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:06:41] <Alkari> Like the Knighting of Derry story
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:07:02] <Evie> Yes. Sometimes a story refuses to flow until the POV is changed, and then it practically tells itself.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:07:50] <the_Bee> I had that experience with one of my DAZine contributions.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:09:04] <Evie> I got three pages written today while waiting for chat to start. :-) It helped to take several days off writing and just read voraciously for a while.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:09:35] <KK> Especially in short stories, one has the opportunity to tell a story from another perspective, and that can make a big difference--and a great impact. Something you couldn't do in the contact of the canon.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:09:54] <KK> context
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:10:06] <Evie> though sometimes even telling a certain scene from a different pov can make a difference
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:10:08] <Shiral> Well I know Dhugal At Court could only have been told from one person's POV
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:10:18] <KK> Yep
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:10:43] <Evie> Oh, i've sent a short story to Julianne for consideration in the 'zine. :-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:11:02] <the_Bee> Is she accepting submissions now?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:11:03] <Alkari> Yes. KK, you have some really interesting women in your books - have you thought about more stories from their POV?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:11:29] <Evie> Yes, I sent her a query a while back and she replied about a week ago and gave me the submission guidelines.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:11:31] <KK> And that's a good example of Shiral taking a throwaway line from the canon and expanding the story behind it. There was no way to tell that story within the novels.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:05] <Alkari> I'd love to see a woman's eye view of Oksana trying to catch Brion and then Nigel .
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:16] <Evie> My story I just sent in was inspired by the Ash Wednesday after Duncan reveals himself as a Deryni in Court at Dhugal's knighting
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:19] <Shiral> I just felt so sorry for the kid. =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:22] <Alkari> That would have been VERY interesting around court!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:38] <Shiral> Dropping a big beautiful tray of food and right in front of the whole Royal Family
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:43] <jemler> Alkari is right, KK. You do have some interesting women in your books, unfortunately they're all married, engaged or nuns!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:46] <Alkari> poor kid
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:51] <KK> I've only become really comfortable with using female POV in the last half dozen books or so. I did do The Green Tower from a female POV.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:12:52] <Evie> I wondered what it would be like to be a secret Deryni taking the "short line" that next day in front of the newly revealed Deryni Bishop
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:13:09] <Shiral> And the dogs just invited themselves to the feast in one of those serendipitous moments
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:13:13] <KK> Jemler, that was the status for most women in the real middle ages.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:13:44] <jemler> no wonder they called them the Dark Ages!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:13:49] <Alkari> Yes, KK. They stayed in the backgfrounbd, yet they 'did' so muich behind the scenes
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:14:10] <the_Bee> I've read women had more rights in Wales than in England.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:14:34] <BalanceTheEnergies> Ah, but what background. Like Eleanor of Aquitaine.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:14:41] <Evie> yes!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:14:41] <KK> Nuns had a lot of power, too, especially in an abbey like Arc-en-Ciel.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:15:07] <Alkari> But look at someone like Meraude - Jehana abandons the Royal Palace, so Meraude basically has to take over, in addition to her own duties as duchess of Carthmoor
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:15:26] <BalanceTheEnergies> Well and weren't they temporal landlords, like certain abbots?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:15:48] <derynifanatic64> 4Meraude is a very special woman
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:15:56] <Alkari> I think so, DF
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:16:08] <Alkari> Nigel seems to have chosen very wisely and well
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:16:29] <Evie> yes, she's far more than just a pretty face and a good breeder
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:16:33] <BalanceTheEnergies> Just as well, since Nigel is Heir Presumptive for so long, and often regent.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:16:36] <KK> Yes. And Meraude, for example, is chatelaine of Rhemuth Castle in Jehana's absence--more work than one might think, when we recall that absolutely everything had to be made by hand. THere were no manufactured goods.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:16:46] <Alkari> Exactly
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:17:08] <the_Bee> Did Nigel and Meraude get to spend much time in Carthmoor? I've somoetimes felt Conall might have turned out better if he'd had more opportunities to see his own birthright instead of envying Kelson's.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:17:08] <Shiral> Now Araxie will have to contend with it all
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:17:14] <derynifanatic64> 4you don't mess with Meraude
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:17:15] <Alkari> And even when she comes back, KK, I didn't get the impression that Jehana reassumed her duties as chatelaine
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:17:43] <KK> Not really. She was more suited for a life of the mind. I think she'll be happy in her new marriage.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:18:07] <derynifanatic64> 4and with a new child
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:18:23] <Alkari> Yes. And Codex says she has a daughter - lovely for her after Rosanne died
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:18:53] <jemler> But did you see how old Barrett was?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:06] <Alkari> Yes!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:16] <Evie> Spry ol' codger. ;-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:17] <BalanceTheEnergies> So? Charlie Chaplin sired chidren in his old age.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:18] <derynifanatic64> 4i'm sure Barrett is in good health
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:27] <derynifanatic64> 4so did tony randal
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:33] <BalanceTheEnergies> True.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:38] <Shiral> It all only has to work once
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:51] <Alkari> Wonder how Kelson will deal with half sister who is the same age as his own daughters
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:19:53] <derynifanatic64> 4tony randall was in his late 70's--had 2 children
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:00] <Shiral> But imagine Kelson's state of mind--his wife is pregnant, and so is his mother
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:14] <Alkari> LOL. What I was thinking.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:15] <KK> That wouldn't necessarily be a problem, especially for a Deryni man. Jehana is pushing the envelope a little, but it may be that Deryni women also have access to enhanced control of their bodies.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:21] <BalanceTheEnergies> Nigel can talk him through it.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:22] Join Kelric has joined this channel (~IceChat77@OWIRCN-99487295.il.comcast.net).
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:28] <jemler> hi Kelric
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:31] <the_Bee> hi kelric
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:32] <Evie> Hi, Kelric
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:34] <Alkari> Something for the Healers to learn and explore, KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:42] <Kelric> cool .lots here
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:45] <Alkari> As they get to understand more of their powers
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:49] <Kelric> quick question for everyone here.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:51] <KK> brb
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:55] <derynifanatic64> 4hey kelric
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:20:57] <Kelric> is anyone hgere in need of a copy of codex 2?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:05] <Shiral> Still, after all Jehana's extreme asceticism, it's not the easiest thing for her to give birth at nearly forty
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:08] <jemler> that's the only copy i have
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:08] <Shiral> Or past forty
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:15] <Shiral> Hi Kelric
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:24] <BalanceTheEnergies> Yes on the Codex.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:28] <Kelric> there's a local used book store that has a copy of codex 2 in extremely good condition for $7.50
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:30] <Alkari> Hi Kelric - and no, I have one, thanks
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:42] <the_Bee> I have mine, thanks.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:54] <Shiral> I've already got two codices
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:55] <Kelric> I'm willing to buy it and ship it for someone in here.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:56] <Evie> wow. I'll keep an ear out for someone in need of one
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:21:57] <Alkari> I was thinking that too about Jehana, Shiral.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:06] <BalanceTheEnergies> 2 Sgiral: fasting may have suppressed her cycle, so she may have some eggs left.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:12] <Evie> I thought my copy was a steal
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:23] <Shiral> Well it seems she did, BTE. =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:27] <BalanceTheEnergies> Local where Kelric?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:29] <jemler> 5-finger discount store, Evie?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:41] <Evie> LOL! No, not THAT much of one, jemler
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:47] <Kelric> chicagoland. in particular the Half Price Books in Bloomingdale on Army Trail Road
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:22:48] <Shiral> I was wondering how heavy a toll labor and delivery would take on her after the fact
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:07] <Alkari> Yes. Though at least she seems to be eating better these days!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:23] <jemler> i feel certain that Barrett had access to things which would make that easier.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:27] <Evie> What I'm missing is a Deryni Magic. I've given up holding out for the 2nd ed. to come out
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:27] <Alkari> And she does have access to a couple of Healers, IF they can assist
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:38] <Shiral> I'm sure Kelson insisted on having a good physician on hand to help her through it, but he must have been passing kittens at the thought of how easily things could go wrong in childbed for a woman of Jehana's age
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:39] * Kelric is going to be VERY distracted tonight
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:46] <BalanceTheEnergies> Thanks Kelric. I'll look into it. I can't seem to get my vacuum; lost three auctions on eBay this week.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:23:49] <Kelric> blackhawks in a must win playoff game tonight
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:24:11] <BalanceTheEnergies> Morgan knows about that too.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:24:24] <Alkari> Oh yes @ Shiral. And he will be worriedabout Araxie too, especially as C odex gives her twins as her first kids
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:24:29] <Kelric> BTE where are you located?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:24:41] <Shiral> But Araxie is at least young and strong
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:24:50] <Evie> Childbirth was hazardous even for Alyce, and she was in her prime
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:24:57] <Alkari> Oh yes, but twins as first kids ...
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:11] <KK> She'll have Barrett to ease the process.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:16] <Shiral> And if she takes after her mother and the other female Von Horthy's, she oughta be a breeding machine. =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:21] <Evie> it was like Russian roulette, pretty much. You had babies, you took your chances.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:27] <KK> She'll have Barrett to ease the process.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:28] <Alkari> Yes.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:33] <BalanceTheEnergies> Des Moines, IA Kelric
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:40] <Shiral> But Kelson is probably the kind of guy who experiences sympathetic labor pangs
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:55] <Evie> Luke has come to lie across my arms and purr madly at KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:25:56] <Alkari> How much can 'ordinary' Deryni do, as distinct from Healers, KK? In situations like that?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:26:22] <Shiral> Well, it wouldn't be as painful for the mother at least
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:26:45] <Evie> Alyce helped with Queen Richeldis's labor pains, IIRC
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:27:03] <Kelric> do you want me to grab the book for you?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:27:05] <Alkari> Can't see many midwives in that society being happy at presence of men in birthing chamber
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:27:15] <Shiral> At perhaps the mother would be less physically exhausted by the end
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:27:34] <the_Bee> IIRC Kelson was able to ease a wounded man's pain while Dhugal treated the injury.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:27:42] <Evie> "My Deryni husband WILL be in here helping me, thank you, and you can get over it. He got this child in me, and he can darn well help me get it out!" ;-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:27:43] <Shiral> Especially not if they fainted
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:27:46] <Alkari> Thoujgh I wouldn't want to be a midwife telling Alaric or Kelson or Barrett that they couldn't go in to their wives
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:03] <Alkari> And help with pain relief
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:12] <Shiral> Oh that would go over like a lead balloon. =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:22] <Shiral> "no, your grace you can't---
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:26] <BalanceTheEnergies> Thanks for the thought Kelric, but I can't be sure when to reimburse you, and i don't want to put you out.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:26] <KK> Certainly could ease the pain, relax the mother and baby. And might have regular midwife-type skills as well, for turning a recalcitrant baby, etc.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:32] <Alkari> So would the mkidwife - into the moat!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:37] <Evie> "Your Majesty, you can't go in there?" "Oh? And who died and made you King?"
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:28:55] <jemler> Alaric to the midwife: What will I see that I haven't seen before?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:29:01] <Shiral> "Get out of the way if you don't want to experience life as a toad, madame!"
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:29:36] <BalanceTheEnergies> This is when female healers would come in handy.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:29:37] <KK> "Has it ever occurred to you to wonder whether Deryni really can turn a person into a toad?"
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:29:45] <Alkari> LOL Shiral. I assume that Deryni women also have some ability to control their own pain, up to a point?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:30:18] <KK> Certainly, though I think control might slip a little as the pain amped up.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:30:24] <Alkari> LOL @ KK. Or cockroaches, if feeling particularly nasty.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:30:47] <Shiral> I doubt they can. =o) But I'm sure neither Alaric nor Kelson would be terribly patient when dealing with interference from mere midwives
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:31:13] <Alkari> I don't know that their wives would be, either!!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:31:26] <KK> At very least, they do the Deryni eqiuvalent of a Vulcan nerve pinch and put the midwife out of commission.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:31:34] <Alkari> lol
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:31:35] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:31:39] <jemler> i wouldn't want to be in a room with a Deryni woman giving birth. Telekinetic powers, fists clenching, who knows what part they're thinking of grabbing at that point!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:32:18] <KK> LOL, especiall when blaming the man for the problem. "You put this in there!"
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:32:18] <the_Bee> In DR, Kelson spoke about physicians having placed him newborn in his mother's arms as the clock struck 3.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:32:28] <BalanceTheEnergies> Nah, I'd only be worried about any Deryni with a brain injury, like Gregory
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:32:29] <Shiral> Hopefully they wouldn't react to labor the way Gregory of Ebor did in CTH
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:32:42] <jemler> amazing Kalson could tell time at that age!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:32:57] <Evie> Araxie: "You touch me again, Kelson Haldane, and I'll tie it in a knot!" Dhugal, whispering, "You think she really would, Kel?" Kelson: "Hell, no, but all the same, I might let the midwife catch this one and come back in a bit."
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:33:00] <Shiral> Talented infant
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:33:21] <KK> LOL, Evie.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:33:33] <Evie>
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:33:34] <the_Bee> LOL! I assume he heard stories. Butmy point was that he said physicians, not midwives.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:33:51] <Alkari> I presume they had both present, especially at a royal birth
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:33:54] <jemler> make the husband doa mind meld with his wife during labor. might change his mind about a big family!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:34:03] <Evie> with a Queen, I'm sure royal physicians would attend as well as any midwife(s)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:34:05] <Shiral> That would be taking Royal Contraception to rather painful extremes.=o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:34:28] <BalanceTheEnergies> Just share the experience later...
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:35:07] <Shiral> According to the Codex, Araxie has a son less than a year later, so her first experience can't have been THAT bad!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:35:09] <Alkari> Interesting if Jehana needs a Healer - she only has a choiced of three so far !
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:35:12] <Evie> yes, you do want an heir AND a spare, which might not happen if the husband experiences the birth as vividly. Or at least he'd wait until that convenient "amnesia" kicks in later.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:35:31] <Shiral> Wow, she and Alaric would REALLY have to learn to get along fast....
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:35:38] <derynifanatic64> 4:D
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:35:41] <Alkari> LOL
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:01] <Evie> Alaric: "Really, this is a side of Queen Jehana I'd never wanted to see."
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:03] <Shiral> At least wait until the post-birth high... =o)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:06] <Alkari> Especially as Alaric would be the one who'd had experience with wife giving birth
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:17] <BalanceTheEnergies> That is one big fence to mend, Alaric & Jehana
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:28] <Alkari> Yes.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:28] <derynifanatic64> 4big and long
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:36] <jemler> Alaric to Kelson: I just passed a kidney stone the size of a bowling ball!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:47] <Shiral> And the CC would HAVE to give Alaric more credit than before, as Barrett would owe him big time
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:52] Nick You are now known as DesertRose.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:36:56] <Evie> "I know we're getting on a lot better these days, but I defer to you, Dhugal." "But I'm a battle-surgeon, no' a freakin' midwife!" "Did anyone tell you your Border accent comes back when you're stressed?"
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:37:01] <the_Bee> WB DR
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:37:05] <DesertRose> TY
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:37:18] <Alkari> I'm trying to write that fence mending, BTE
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:37:32] <Alkari> Or at least the installation of the first fencepost
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:37:35] <Evie> and so far doing an excellent job at it
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:37:53] <Shiral> "Why should I help you? You tried to have me executed after Brion's death!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:38:13] <Evie> but Dhugal as impromptu midwife has just captured my fancy, so let me giggle at that mental image a bit longer. ;-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:38:14] <Alkari> It's probably more an issue for Jehana than Alaric - HE has effectively moved on in life and is secure
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:38:21] <Evie> Or better yet, Duncan
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:38:43] * Alkari can see Duncan headed for a retreat
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:00] <jemler> that'll be good "I know I wasn't there for the birth of my own son, but..."
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:10] <the_Bee> I can see Duncan being very gentle with a woman in labor.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:14] <Evie> I'll bet Duncan would discover some long lost Border brogue he can't even remember ever losing if he got saddled with the job of Jehana's kiddie-catcher.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:19] <Shiral> "I should be back from my religious retreat with the Fratrii Silentii by.... Michaelmas, Sire..."
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:24] <Alkari> Duncan and Dhugal head out of town for a LONG trip to the wilds of Cassan
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:27] <jemler> wtf, where did the italics come from?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:31] <BalanceTheEnergies> after rereading Annales Queroni
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:39:40] <Evie> italics, jemler?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:40:00] <jemler> yea, where did they come from?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:40:04] <KK> I suspect Rothana would make a great midwife.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:40:24] <Evie> I can imagine that
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:40:25] <jemler> drop the mid part, and i'll marry her!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:40:27] <Alkari> Yes
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:40:32] <Evie> LOL @ jemler
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:40:35] <Shiral> Duncan wasn't really at the receiving end of Jehana's animosity the way Morgan was, since she had no idea he was Deryni though.... was he, KK?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:41:00] <Alkari> But when she did find out, she never even gave him his proper title as a priest or bishop
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:41:11] <KK> She would have been scandalized to learn that he was a Deryni priest, but it wasn't personal like it was with Alaric.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:41:12] <BalanceTheEnergies> Well, she did neglect to use any of his titles for a time.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:41:12] <Shiral> So Rothana might well attend Araxie at her lyings in?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:41:16] <Evie> Maybe not, but he's a priest. I can't imagine that would be a comfortable position for him, no pun intended (looks sidelong at jemler)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:41:38] * jemler shuts up...for now
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:41:58] * Shiral rewards Jemler with ice cream forhis momentary discretion
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:42:04] <BalanceTheEnergies> Wasn't always "Duncan McLain"?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:42:13] <Alkari> She's had to cope with Father Nivard, and now two Deryni bishops
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:42:35] <Evie> though at least Nivard deserves sainthood for coping with her!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:42:40] <Alkari> quite ba challenge for her thinking!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:42:46] <BalanceTheEnergies> I like to think that impromptu Mass on the TP helped...
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:07] <BalanceTheEnergies> That's how the text reads, anyway.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:12] <the_Bee> TP? remind me
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:18] <Shiral> Transfer Portal
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:24] <the_Bee> ah.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:28] <Shiral> In the library Annexe
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:39] <jemler> with Nivard and his aura glowing...
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:42] <BalanceTheEnergies> Transfer Portal. After an all-nighter, Fr Nivard said Matins or something...
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:43:56] <BalanceTheEnergies> Yes jemler, aura and all.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:44:03] <Alkari> I was wondering how and when she really learns to use her shields
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:44:21] <Alkari> She seems to have had almost no training.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:45:00] <Evie> I like Nivard. That scene where he meets Duncan for the first time and is in awe makes me giggle, because I can so imagine what that would be like. ;-)
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:45:10] <Alkari> I can see Kelson being a little wary of his mother being trained by someone like Barrett, given that he didn't want Nivard to link with Barrett because Nivard was privy to personal information
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:45:11] <Shiral> Lots of power and no training. No wonder she scared herself!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:45:13] <the_Bee> Going by Dhugal's experience, the difficulty with shields is learning how to lower them, not raise them.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:45:31] <Alkari> Yes, but also learning to section off your mind, Bee.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:45:56] <Alkari> As DHugal and Kelson discover, there are things that need to be kept private
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:45:59] <jemler> talk about giving someone a piece of your mind!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:46:06] <Alkari> Same as Richenda and Alaric
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:46:42] <BalanceTheEnergies> Then too, the CC changes a bit, especiially with Sofiana back and Azim joining it...
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:46:53] * Alkari ponders a possible scene for fic ....
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:47:05] <Evie> in their case it was also learning how to communicate, rather than how to hold something back.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:47:06] <derynifanatic64> 4change can be good
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:47:26] <derynifanatic64> 4if done properly
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:47:27] <Alkari> whose case, Evie?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:48:12] <Evie> Alaric and Richenda. The problem wasn't that they had no secrets from each other, but that they had too many. A. wasn't being open enough with R. about what the problems were in the Duchy and why he couldn't leave things in her hands
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:48:39] <Evie> Too much privacy is just as much a problem in Deryni marriage as too little, I would think
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:48:49] <KK> Yike, gotta go. The new Upstairs Downstairs is about to start. See you guys next week--or maybe not; it's Easter. But the following week, we can yak about the Royal Wedding. Be sure to catch the cool T-Mobile commercial of the wedding party boogieing down the aisle.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:48:52] <Evie> you'd need to learn the balance
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:04] <Evie>
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:08] <BalanceTheEnergies> Good night KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:10] <Evie> Happy Easter in advance
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:11] <Alkari> Oh, I didn't mean that - I meant that they both knew how to section off things in their private lives, like Richenda and Bran
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:17] <Shiral> Ah yes, Rose Buck Back at 165 Eaton Place!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:18] <the_Bee> goodnight , Happy Palm Sunday and Happy Easter, KK.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:20] <jemler> nite KK. happy easter
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:23] <Shiral> Bye, KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:23] <derynifanatic64> 4good night KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:28] <Alkari> Bye KK - thanks for ocming to Chat
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:31] <Evie> Christus resurrexit!
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:33] <Shiral> Happy Easter if you don't make it next week
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:52] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:55] <DesertRose> Happy Easter KK, and thanks for coming.
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:58] <jemler> isn't that the whole point of Easter?
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:49:59] <Shiral> Bye, KK
[Sunday 17 April 2011] [20:50:13] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: ).