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KK Chat -- 20 Feb 2011

Started by DesertRose, February 21, 2011, 01:45:15 PM

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[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:08] Join KK has joined this channel (~kkurtz@OWIRCN-b7b1e86b.va.comcast.net).
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:13] <Evie> Hi, KK
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:18] <jemler> Hi KK
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:20] <Shiral> Hello KK
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:23] <KK> Hello, gang.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:27] <derynifanatic64> 3hi KK
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:27] <duck> hi kk
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:34] <Alkari> Hi KK
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:12:40] <Alkari> Good to see you.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:04] * Evie sets out cake, ice cream, and party favors
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:10] Join the_Bee has joined this channel (the_Bee@OWIRCN-268b09c9.ma.comcast.net).
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:14] <Evie> Hi, Bee
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:15] <jemler> hi bee
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:17] * Alkari adds lots of chocolate
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:24] <Alkari> And some nice red wine
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:32] <the_Bee> hi evie jemler and all
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:35] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:36] * Shiral adds Tea, cream and sugar
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:37] <jemler> red wine and chocolate?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:53] <Shiral> Yup, let's get cardiovascular!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:13:56] <Alkari> Of course!! A rich dessert red wine
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:01] <the_Bee> I thought it was champagne and chocolate.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:04] <Shiral> From Fianna
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:15] <Alkari> If you gotta go, might as well enjoy it L:D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:32] <derynifanatic64> 3Fianna wine is the best in the 11 kingdoms
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:36] <Evie> How is our favorite book author...characters...world...Duncan-darling?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:42] * Alkari adds a nice selection of tasty cheeses
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:51] <the_Bee> if you drink enough wine you really WILL have to go! :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:14:57] <KK> All is well. Book is progressing well.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:06] <Evie> yay!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:07] <Alkari> Hey - red wine is good for you!!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:09] <duck> and if you're naughty you get to drink the diabolical dhassa vintage
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:13] <Alkari> Yay.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:18] <Alkari> So where is poor Alaric now?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:20] <derynifanatic64> 3cheeky Bee!!:D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:21] <the_Bee> anything you can tell us?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:21] <Evie> any new news re: the movie?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:30] <Shiral> That's how they get Deryni to talk in Dhassa, Duck
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:33] <KK> Also, we have a new dog: a rescue Basset named Warner, as in Warner Brown Hound.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:49] <the_Bee> Cool!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:15:59] <Shiral> And that brings the dog count to 3?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:16:01] <Alkari> rescue basset - cute
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:16:02] <jemler> Lonesome George the Bassett - Tom T. Hall
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:16:26] <Alkari> Once knew a basset called Longlegs :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:16:40] <jemler> contradiction isn't it?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:16:44] <the_Bee> so that's 3 dogs and 5, 6 0r7 cats?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:16:47] <KK> He's actually white with brown spots, about Booker's age, but smaller. Very sweet and affectionate, and incredibly grateful to have a Forever Home at last. He was found as a stray in WV, a rack of bones.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:16:56] <Alkari> poor thing
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:17:04] <Evie> :-(
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:17:17] <KK> He's put on weight in the two weeks we've had him, and is learning the household routine.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:17:21] <Shiral> But I'm sure his luck has just changed for the better.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:17:25] <Alkari> Friend recently got her third rescue dog, a long-haired chihuahau cross, who had been used by a puppy farm breeder
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:17:28] <KK> RBB. Pizza just arrived.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:17:33] <derynifanatic64> 3and just about running the household too
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:17:58] <Evie> yum, pizza!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:18:00] <Alkari> Red wine goes well with pizza :)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:18:09] <the_Bee> so does beer.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:18:18] <Alkari> never drink the stuff :)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:18:23] <derynifanatic64> 3pizza goes well with about anything
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:18:39] <Shiral> Except white shirts if you're like me
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:18:42] * Alkari contemplates pizza for lunch
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:05] <KK> I'm back.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:13] <the_Bee> I'm going to a Mediterranean restaurant with friends tomorrow night.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:14] <Alkari> Munching pizza?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:17] <Evie> what kind of pizza are we having? ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:19] <Shiral> Alkari, you're supposed to EAT pizza, not meditate on it
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:32] <KK> This one is mushroom & ham.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:45] <Evie> Yes; if you meditate on pizza, your butt gets covered with cheese and tomato sauce, and who wants that?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:46] <Alkari> oh I mediate between ordering and collecting it :p
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:50] <derynifanatic64> 3i can smell it
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:19:53] <Alkari> THEN I eat it!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:20:02] <Evie> Far better to meditate with it in front of you
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:20:25] <Shiral> The HOly Pizza brotherhood is known by the stained seats of their Monk's robes =o)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:20:31] <Alkari> lol
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:20:41] <the_Bee> meditate while chewing. Or chew while meditating.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:20:41] <duck> and their catchcry "pizzas of eight"
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:20:54] * Evie hides this chat transcript from Jass. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:21:11] <Alkari> Duck, you have to save the puns for when DesertRose comes back :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:21:25] <Shiral> The last time the brotherhood couldn't agree on toppings, it caused a schism
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:21:27] <Evie> yes, if you bring the puns out too early, she might not come back!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:21:29] <KK> Each dog just got a piece if crust. Yes, I'm a pushover.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:21:52] <derynifanatic64> 3lucky dogs
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:21:53] <Evie> our cats are pizzanivorous too
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:21:54] <duck> just warming up alkari
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:22:09] <Alkari> So KK - how is the book coming along?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:22:17] <Shiral> I'm sure Dmitri would at least try a bite of pizza, but I rarely have it around
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:22:23] <jemler> dona no pizza pacem!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:23:49] <the_Bee> Dogs will gobble almost anything in reach, whether it's good for them or not.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:03] <jemler> kinda like guys
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:08] <KK> Book is coming along fine. I finally figured out the hook on which to hang Kenneth's death. And he isn't the only one to die.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:18] <Alkari> oh no :(
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:23] * Evie whimpers
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:33] * Alkari gets out tissues
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:50] <jemler> is it at least somebody bad?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:51] * the_Bee doesn't want to know.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:52] <derynifanatic64> 3no one said life was fair
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:24:59] <Alkari> You are very cruel to popor Alaric :(
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:25:16] <Shiral> Popor?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:25:29] <Shiral> Yikes, another bloodbath, KK?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:25:37] <the_Bee> Alaric or his Pop?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:25:42] <KK> Not bad,ust....dustant. You'll hardly miss him/her.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:25:45] <derynifanatic64> 3she meant poor
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:25:59] <the_Bee> We know.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:00] <Alkari> That's OK then.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:00] <jemler> leave the poor woman alone. she's choked up with emotion.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:13] <Alkari> No. I just haven't had breakfast!!!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:24] <jemler> have some pizza
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:27] <Alkari> And my fingers don't type properly when I am hungry
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:31] Join Elim has joined this channel (~Elim@survival.is.preparedness).
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:31] Mode derynibot gives Elim permission to talk.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:40] <jemler> hi elim
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:44] <the_Bee> good morning, Elim.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:46] <Alkari> it is 11.30am so it had better be brunch
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:55] <Elim> Morning.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:26:56] <Alkari> when I get around to it.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:27:11] <Evie> any news re the movie this week? Or still just slow progress?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:27:35] <the_Bee> I sometimes get on my computer and don't think about lunch til 3 0r 4 pm.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:28:01] <Evie> I sometimes go to lunch so i can have writing time on my computer. :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:28:25] <Evie> (Seriously, I get quite a bit of my fanfic writing done during my lunch break)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:28:25] <Shiral> Is that a 3 hour lunch, Evie? =o)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:28:35] <Evie> LOL! I wish. No, just an hour
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:29:04] <Evie> but I can get an awful lot sorted in an hour, even if it's mainly just planning something out
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:29:22] <KK> The prospective director is just finishing up the post production on his/her latest film, and will probably want at least a fe3w days' break before plunging back into deciding on the next project. Patience, lads and lassies.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:29:52] <Alkari> Yay. ANy ideas yet on casting? Evie keeps seeing prospective Duncans :0
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:30:05] <Alkari> Though we haven't found an Alaric yet.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:30:19] <Evie> Well, no, I keep seeing prospective everyone BUT Duncans. :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:30:19] <KK> I try not to think about it. It will happen when it happens.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:30:41] * Shiral sends urgent brainwaves to director.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:30:50] <Shiral> Can't hurt. =o)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:04] <Evie> On the rare occasion when I find a decentish Duncan, he was perfect for the part back in 1990 or something. :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:14] <Alkari> I see ideal people but only in old movies.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:18] <KK> I know. They keep aging out.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:24] <Shiral> Drat them
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:27] <the_Bee> that they do.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:36] <Evie> How dare they have real lives and not be static! :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:43] <derynifanatic64> 3oh well
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:31:45] <Shiral> We clearly need to 'think young.'
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:32:17] <Alkari> As long as its not Alex Pettyfer as Morgan :(
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:32:22] <Evie> OK, in that case I'll start scouring grade schools for Kelson in hopes some cute kid will be 16 when they're ready to cast the movie. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:32:26] <the_Bee> Who?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:32:40] <Alkari> Youngish and blond
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:32:44] <Shiral> Hair and coloring can be faked--I just hope for people who will capture the essense of the characters
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:32:45] <Evie> He's a bit young for Morgan
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:32:58] <derynifanatic64> 3maybe Conall
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:33:04] <Alkari> Agree with Shiral - acting quality is main thing
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:33:13] <jemler> Pettyfer is only 20
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:33:23] <Shiral> WAY too young for Alaric
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:33:40] <jemler> to old for Conall
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:33:41] <KK> What's he playing now
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:20] <Evie> brb...must eject a cat who keeps minimizing my chat window with his butt!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:24] <the_Bee> I've though of either Amanda Righetti or Kate Walsh for Jehana. Kate's a bit old for Jehana in the book, but she'd work for the mother or a 16-year-old Kelson in the movie.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:25] <derynifanatic64> 3"Beastly"
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:25] <jemler> I am Number Four
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:34] * Alkari would like Daninel Craig, but somehow doesn't see Alaric drinking martinis
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:36] <Shiral> Evie he sure knows how to get attention
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:44] <Alkari> *Danial
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:34:50] <Alkari> AAAAACK.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:35:02] <Shiral> He.... seems too hard and not good looking enough for Alaric
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:35:04] <Shiral> to me
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:35:19] <jemler> if they don't want Righetti, I'll take her (who cares about her husband?)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:35:42] <Evie> He also suffers from "Too well known for a different role" syndrome. I don't want to look at Alaric and think "Bond, James Bond." :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:35:43] <Alkari> Well, I *did* suggest David Wenham (Faramir) :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:36:13] <KK> Daniel Craig is too old, too--and too rough looking.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:36:16] <jemler> Pettyfer could play Derry
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:36:16] <Alkari> I am sure he can do a Mid-Atlantic accent
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:36:55] <Alkari> Owen Wilson "looks" OK but not sure of his acting
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:01] <Shiral> And I don't want Alaric to suddenly pull out a gun instead af a sword!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:08] <Alkari> ROFL
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:13] <Evie> :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:14] <Alkari> You mean, to an Indiana Jones
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:20] <Shiral> BLAM! Take that, Ian!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:27] <KK> Don't know much about I am Number 4. Sf, isn't it? And he's an alien?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:28] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:37:48] <Shiral> I mean, where's that devastating Alaric skilll with a sword?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:38:20] <Evie> Here's Pettyfer, KK.... http://www.cityofbonesmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Alex_Pettyfer_0004.jpg
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:38:22] <Shiral> NO challenge
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:38:37] <Evie> You should be able to see that larger if you click on it, if you're in Mibbit
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:38:41] <KK> Owen Wilson strikes me as too associated with comedy/slapstick stuff.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:38:48] <Evie> not sure if it shows up using other chat software
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:38:49] <Alkari> LOL SHiral - I keep thinking of those wonderful old-style sword fights with people like Basil Rathbone
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:39:02] <Alkari> And Errol Flynn
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:39:03] <jemler> you never saw him in Armeggedon?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:39:03] <the_Bee> All I know is, "I am Number 4" is about 9 people who are being hunted down and killed.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:39:26] <Evie> but as someone else said, the boy's too young for Alaric
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:39:38] <derynifanatic64> 3their aliens being hunting by other aliens
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:10] <Shiral> Basil Rathbone... Darn his hide. He would have been good for some villain...
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:27] <Alkari> Oh yes!!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:27] <the_Bee> How about Nigel?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:39] <Evie> Paul Scofield is too old to play Camber now, drat him
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:40] <KK> Just looked at pics. Too weedy. Alaric is a Man.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:48] <jemler> how about this for Richenda? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Rachel_Wood
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:51] <Alkari> Well, he did Sherlock Holmes so he could have done Nigel
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:40:56] <Shiral> Oh yeah...... :P
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:41:26] <Alkari> No - she is too harsh, I think jemler
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:41:34] <Alkari> it could be all the makeup
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:41:40] <the_Bee> Richenda doesn't appear in DR.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:42:04] <Alkari> She could be aged for Jehana
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:42:44] <Evie> My son just started a pizza. :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:42:52] <jemler> she's 23, richenda is 24 when Alaric meets her
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:42:53] <the_Bee> KK's description of Jehana in DR chapter 2 reminds me of Kate Walsh.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:42:54] <Shiral> She doesn't..... (but she SHOULD!) =o)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:43:51] <KK> Actually, looking again at Owen Wilson, I think he could look the part; maybe even act it. I'd forgotten about Hoolmes.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:44:10] <Alkari> No, Richenda is younger than that Jemler - barely 22
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:44:17] <jemler> he was also in The Haunting
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:44:30] <KK> Didn't see that.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:44:58] <jemler> also starred Catherine Zeta-Jones
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:44:59] <Alkari> I'd like to see Alaric give that sense of roguish humour
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:45:13] <the_Bee> Most actors I saee are on TV, not movies.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:45:25] <Alkari> And the impression of devil may care
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:45:49] <Evie> I can see someone like Catherine Zeta-Jones as the dark-haired, dark-eyed Meraude
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:46:13] <KK> But Meraude is tiny. CZJ is not.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:46:15] <the_Bee> who also doesn't appear in the first book.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:46:24] <KK> True.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:46:43] <jemler> how old was Charissa?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:46:47] <Alkari> I *like* Meraude
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:47:00] <the_Bee> me too, Alkari.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:47:31] <Alkari> And Nigel
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:47:45] <jemler> I like Rothana, Richenda, Janniver (ypu know, the HOT ones!) :)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:47:54] <Evie> In that case, my daughter can play Meraude. She'll be old enough by the time you're ready to cast a movie with Meraude in it. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:48:04] <Alkari> lol Yes, I'd be worried if you had the hots for Nigel, jemler :p
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:48:18] <Shiral> I do hope Meraude will be able to throw off the invisibility spell she was under in DR the book and appear in the movie. After all, she IS Nigel's wife! She can't be that tiny
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:48:21] <the_Bee> Nigel the UN-Wicked Uncle.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:48:22] <jemler> not nearly as worried as I would be!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:48:35] <Alkari> Though clearly meraude thought he was HOT when she met him
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:48:54] <Shiral> Certainly she thought he was nice and warm =o_
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:48:57] <Shiral> =o)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:49:03] <Evie> The hot ones? You meant Duncan, Nigel, Se, and (looks around for Annie) Denis, right? ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:49:30] <Alkari> KK, did Azim ever know Se Trelawney?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:49:36] <Alkari> or is that giving something away?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:49:53] <jemler> he probably did
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:50:01] <KK> Oh, yes, he certainly would have done.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:50:28] <Alkari> mmm - interesting
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:51:54] <jemler> Azim was Precentor of the Knights of the Anvilm and Se was a Knight
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:52:28] <Alkari> Yes. Their dates potentially overlapped, unless KK is going to kill off poor Se in one of her bloodthirsty spells :)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:52:49] <KK> But Azim wouldn't have been precentor at the beginning of DR.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:53:00] <Shiral> Uh oh.... she does say she's going to off somebody else with Kenneth.....
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:53:09] <the_Bee> He could still have been a knight.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:53:11] <Alkari> But not someone we know very much
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:53:18] <jemler> but said we wouldn't miss one
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:53:23] * Alkari crosses fingers for poor Se
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:53:32] <KK> It isn't Se.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:53:35] <Shiral> KK.... about how old is Azim, as of 1128?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:54:07] <Shiral> Whew, Se doesn't get the Author Ax
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:54:08] <jemler> why wouldn't Azim have been precentor at ther beginning of DR? it's only about 4 years before we actually meet him
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:54:23] <Alkari> Codex says Azim was born in 1079
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:54:41] <Alkari> So age 49
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:55:01] <jemler> 41 in 1120
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:55:19] <jemler> if he became a Knight at 18...
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:55:52] <KK> A precentor is a high ranking officer, and I don't think Azim has done fuolltime service with the Anvilers all that time.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:56:08] <the_Bee> So Se and Azim's knight-times could have overlapped.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:56:22] <Evie> and their day-times as well. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:56:30] <Shiral> Tee hee!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:56:32] * jemler groans
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:56:33] <the_Bee> LOPL!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:11] <jemler> Laughing Out Pretty Loud?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:22] <Shiral> Oops, I'm sorry all. I have to kick off my glass slipper and run off in my pumpkin coach. I'm chatting on borrowed time today, and I have to go be a good employee again
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:26] <Shiral> BYE!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:32] <the_Bee> Lyng on the portcullis laughing.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:34] <KK> Many of the Anvilers would not have been based at Djellarda all the time. They go out on assignment.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:37] <Evie> Bye, Shiral
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:40] <Alkari> Bother1 Bye then - nice to see you
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:43] <jemler> nite shiral
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:43] <the_Bee> bye Shiral.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:57:47] <KK> Bye, Shiral.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:58:04] <Shiral> Toodle-oo, keep up the good writing work KK, et al.
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[Sunday 20 February 2011] [19:58:29] <Alkari> I assume some of them will play a key role with the Schola
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:00:37] <KK> Possibly. But they're an entity unto themselves. Think of Michaelines with a wider political base, as they communicate with Torenth and R'Kassi and the other more eastern kingdoms.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:01:13] <Alkari> Yes. But I guess they would be interested in training new Deryni, and having them trained properly
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:03:00] <KK> Yes, but they also wouldn't want to give away too much about their inner workings. Remember, Templars crossed with Jesuits, and they have magic!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:03:19] <Alkari> And I assume that with Liam in power, there will be access to the remaining Healers in Torenth?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:03:26] <Alkari> LOL.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:03:53] <jemler> still a lot of bad blood between the two
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:04:00] <Alkari> On the other hand, they *would* want future Deryni to get proper training, I assume.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:04:28] <jemler> they would want to move slowly though.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:04:35] <Alkari> If people like Azim are training Richenda and co, then there must be some interest in training more generally
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:04:46] <the_Bee> At the time of DR, Torenth is still the enemy.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:05:03] <Alkari> But not by end of KKB
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:05:08] <Evie> Yes, Bee, but I think Alkari is looking at post-KKB
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:05:13] <jemler> until the time of KKB Torenth was the enemy!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:05:26] <the_Bee> Are we planning a whole franchise of movies here?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:05:43] <Evie> Those of us writing fanfic in the post-KKB era find it helpful to know these things. :-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:06:03] <KK> We'd like. ;-) But it probably won't happen.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:06:03] <derynifanatic64> 3probably depends on how the first movie does at the box office
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:06:17] <jemler> if it ever GETS there!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:06:40] <Evie> I'd love to see KKB the Movie to see the movie sets. :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:06:47] <Alkari> KK - this may sound strange, but ... what does Brendan call Alaric within the family?!! Father, Papa, Papa Alaric ...??? He called Bran "Papa".
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:09:21] <KK> Not sure. Initially, when he's still so young, I expect he'd call him Papa, and then develop a pet-name of his own--which wouldn't last too long, probably, because once he becomes a page and then squire to Alaric, their dynamic will shift. There would always be love and respect, though.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:10:25] <Alkari> Yes. I get the impression they are close
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:10:25] <KK> Fairly soon, he wouldn't remember much about Bran--and as he gets older and learns more about what his father did, he'd have to draw his own conclusions.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:10:57] <Alkari> Hard for him, and hard for Richenda and Alaric explaining to him
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:11:09] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:12:05] <Alkari> Especially when it seems as though his mother quickly married one of the people responsible for killing his father. NOt an easy thing for a kid to deal with
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:12:17] <KK> In this case, I think actions will speak louder than words. Alaric obviously loves Richenda and her son, and this can't help but influence the way Brendan perceives the family dynamic.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:12:24] <the_Bee> At first Brendan might have gone through a phase of telling Alaric, "You're not my Papa!"
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:12:33] <jemler> Alaric didn't kill Bran. Kelson did.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:12:44] <Alkari> No, but there was a duel.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:13:02] <jemler> then again. maybe Richenda blurred his memory.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:13:14] <Evie> Alaric had to be prepared to be able to kill Bran in that duel, even if that's not how things turned out
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:13:23] <Alkari> Outwardly at least. And I imagine it would be some time before Brendan was able to understand the details of what actually happened
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:13:47] <KK> There started to be a duel, but Coram changed all that. And yes, Alaric would have had no hesitation in killing Bran, if it had come to that.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:14:46] <Alkari> The niceties of all that would be hard for a little kid to understand. And I imagine that a few youngsters at court would have made life tough for him at times, with the name "Coris"
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:14:50] <Evie> Because Alaric didn't have enough going on in HD, he needed that "I might have to kill your husband, darling" angst as well. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:14:58] <Alkari> rofl
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:16:02] <KK> Life in Deryniland is rarely fair or easy.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:16:34] <Alkari> No. Even if your stepfather is a Duke and you are friends with princes and future kings
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:16:48] <Evie> At least it was Alaric who fell in love. "I just lost a father and a brother in a matter of months, and I've also fallen in love with a woman i can't have because I'm celibate' would have been quite a bummer of an ending to HD if Duncan had fallen for Richenda instead of Alaric!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:16:58] <Alkari> ROFL
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:17:11] <Alkari> No, Duncan is a true priest now :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:17:17] <KK> Yep, it could have been bad for Duncan.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:17:35] <jemler> but if Duncan had fallen for Richenda, you would have been heart-broken, Evie!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:17:46] <Alkari> He just has to explain the existence of Dhugal :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:17:58] <Evie> Yes, he's a priest, but he's not a gelding. I'm sure it's possible for him to have feelings for a woman, he just can't express them that way anymore because his vows come first
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:18:21] <jemler> and because the robes would hide the evidence! :)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:18:37] <derynifanatic64> 3i wonder if we'll find out how Stefan was in a position to take Rhydon's identity
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:18:49] <Evie> I've wondered that myself, DF
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:18:49] <Alkari> Yes, that was quite a feat, wasn't it
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:19:17] <KK> You never know. Duncan might yet find love again--though yes, he would never express it physically. But he could have a wonderful, close relationship with a woman. Look at Kelson and Rothana.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:19:18] <jemler> wasn't Rhydon a former member of the Council?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:19:45] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:19:52] <the_Bee> The Council thought he still was, didn't they?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:20:15] <Alkari> No, he'd resigned before DR hadn't he?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:20:17] <Evie> I'm glad you said that, KK, because my first Deryni fanfic actually explored the question of how Duncan would handle the situation if he developed feelings for a woman but couldn't express them the usual ways since he's now a bishop. :-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:20:18] <the_Bee> At least they didn't know he was dead.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:20:58] <jemler> no they didn't think he was a member. Remember, Thorne Hagen told Rhydon/Coram that they changed co-adjutors last month
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:21:22] <the_Bee> Ah.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:21:33] <Alkari> But running a double identity and living 'as' Rydon for 6 years - quite amazing
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:23:00] <KK> It would have been a tricky balanving act all right.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:23:04] <derynifanatic64> 3and Wencit unaware of Rhydon's death and Stefan's deception was amazing for him to pull off
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:23:05] <KK> balancing
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:23:45] <Alkari> Stefan must have been extremely talented
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:24:15] <jemler> well trained
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:24:24] <derynifanatic64> 3and if Stefan was the Camber ghost that appeared to Alaric and Duncan...
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:24:29] <KK> Oh, yes. We may never know just how talented.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:25:16] <Alkari> Well, he was involved with the Arilan family and the whole issue of Denis's ordination
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:25:59] <KK> Yep. It gets really convoluted.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:26:02] <duck> you're still keen to keep him a big mystery KK?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:26:10] <Alkari> And poor Vivienne is probably rotating in her grave at the thought of training being given via the Schola to even halfbreed Deryni :)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:26:27] <KK> For now.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:26:42] <Evie> Rolling and ululating at high pitch, poor Viv. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:26:59] <Alkari> Yes. She was really old-school in her prejudices
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:27:29] <jemler> kIRI OF THE fLAME WASN'T ANY BETTER
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:27:36] <jemler> sorry for the caps
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:28:13] <Alkari> No, though I got the impression that Vivienne was more strident. And she was involved in machinations way back in the CM times, wasn't she?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:28:17] <derynifanatic64> 3we didn't see much of Kiri because of her marriage and child
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:28:19] <Evie> Yes, I frequently find myself sitting on my hands trying not to slap Kiri or Vivienne, which makes reading a bit difficult. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:28:42] <the_Bee> Tiercel was the one who suggested there might not be any difference in power between full and half-breed Deryni.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:29:22] <jemler> Sofiana said something like that too
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:29:59] <Evie> And Denis tells Cardiel in HD, IIRC, that he doesn't see much of a difference between Alaric and full Deryni in terms of potential (though of course there'd have been in terms of access to training)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:30:08] <the_Bee> Sofiana was mor open-minded than the other two women.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:30:55] <KK> Remember that she was from west of Gwynedd.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:30:56] <jemler> and, of course, Arilan knew the difference in training. Jorian
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:31:08] <duck> its interesting that this kind of idea arose given in the camber books they are a bit less troubled by the idea of half-breeds
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:31:14] <jemler> Andelon was south of Gwynedd.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:31:22] <Evie> From west or from east, KK?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:31:44] <Alkari> brb]
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:31:44] <KK> From east of Gwynedd--and southish.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:32:10] <Evie> OK. I wondered about her coming from the Atalantic Ocean. :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:32:32] <duck> as sofiana said in TKJ you'd suspect that kyri or vivienne might squirm a bit if all of their ancestors deryness were scrutinised
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:32:41] <Evie> I'm sure she's quite the siren, but still. :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:33:10] <jemler> Kiri was hostile of Sofiana's 'more exotic beauty'
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:33:50] <Evie> why am I suddenly picturing Sophia Loren? :-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:34:16] <jemler> i don't know, i'm seeing Padma Lashkmi
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:34:55] <the_Bee> I know a dog named Sophia Loren. A long-haired dachsund
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:35:00] <Evie> (whose Neapolitan apartment we used to drive by frequently when I was a child living in Italy, btw. Sophia Loren's, that is, not Padma's)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:35:05] <jemler> sorry, my bad. i mean Padma Lakshmi
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:35:39] <Alkari> LOL @ Kiri jealousy.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:35:56] <derynifanatic64> 3;)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:36:06] <Evie> Our tour guide told us, "There's the balcony of the apartment where Sophia Loren was born." My first thought, as a 11 year old hearing that, was "I hope she wasn't born on the balcony!!!" :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:36:30] <Alkari> LOL @ balcony birth.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:37:18] <Alkari> Vivienne was the one on the CC who was horrified at the thought of a halfbreed as Duke of Corwyn, She would have encouraged Donal ;)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:37:53] <the_Bee> to do what?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:37:53] <Alkari> or encouraged 'some other arrangements' being made with regard to Alyce
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:38:10] <the_Bee> oh yes, now I remember.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:38:13] <derynifanatic64> 3Vivienne was horrified at anything halfbreed is seems
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:38:21] <derynifanatic64> 3it seems
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:39:37] <Alkari> Yes. The years after KKB will be interesting in terms of shifting knowledge and perceptions.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:40:00] <the_Bee> Vivienne needs to read KK's essay "On the Genetics of Deryni Inheritance."
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:40:03] <Alkari> The CC may be stuffy still, but with Azim and Sofiana, there are the winds of change and broadmindedness
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:40:31] <derynifanatic64> 3change can be good
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:40:34] <the_Bee> The CC may even regain some of what they had in Camber's day.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:41:06] <Alkari> Yes. but to do that, they are going to have to recognise that they are not the fount of all knowledge and even authority
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:42:06] <the_Bee> IN DC and HD the Council seemed to do little more than arrange Duels Arcane.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:42:55] <jemler> I wonder if the Council knows where Camber id buried?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:43:25] <the_Bee> Camber's the superego, not the id.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:43:27] <KK> Gimme a break, Bee! I was still figuring out how it all works! ;-) And I'm still figuring it out, to a point.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:43:45] <the_Bee> OKAY OKAY!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:44:07] <Evie> Making it up as you went along? That sounds familiar.... :-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:44:41] <duck> works in progress is the term isn't it?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:44:57] <derynifanatic64> 3more than likely
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:44:59] <Alkari> LOL.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:45:35] <derynifanatic64> 3:D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:45:59] <duck> well people i have to run away and do (un)productive monday things - have good respective rests of the weekends for those of you still residing in weekend land
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:10] <Alkari> Well, lacking the medieval equivalents of Crick and Watson, I think we can leave the Deryni genetics partly 'mysterious' :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:30] <the_Bee> tomorrow's a holiday in the U.S.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:36] <Alkari> what for?
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:39] <derynifanatic64> 3president's day
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:40] <duck> cheers all
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:41] Part duck has left this channel.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:45] <Evie> President's Day
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:46] <derynifanatic64> 3but not for everyone
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:50] <Alkari> OK.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:58] <the_Bee> only in America.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:46:59] <derynifanatic64> 3no mail delivery
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:47:02] <Evie> though my kids have school because of the snow days they had off earlier in the term
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:47:11] <Alkari> I am supposed to think about going back to work. :D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:47:13] <derynifanatic64> 3:(
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:47:22] <Alkari> But I think I will delay that until Wednesday!
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:47:41] <KK> I need to get back to work too. No holidays for authors. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:47:50] <Evie> :-D
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:47:53] <derynifanatic64> 3keep up the good work
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:00] <Alkari> No, your fans will keep prodding you gently.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:06] <Evie> Yes, we love it when you get back to work. ;-)
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:11] <derynifanatic64> 3very gently
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:18] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:24] <Alkari> oh yes, we can't damage The Author
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:25] <derynifanatic64> 3bye
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:25] <the_Bee> Write well, KK and Evie and anyone else.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:28] <KK> Ta until next week.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:31] <the_Bee> nighters, KK
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:36] <Alkari> Night.
[Sunday 20 February 2011] [20:48:37] <Evie> Bye, KK!
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"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)