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Author Topic: Kelson Era FanFic The Bishop and the Birthday Girl  (Read 9004 times)

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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2010, 01:21:03 pm »
Not sure what the 'gloom and despair' is? - I think it would be vastly amusing  :D


It's a reference to a comedy song on an old US TV show. Imagine Denis or Alaric singing it in a morose voice.  :D

I think of it as a duet.

For some reason I always 'hear' Alaric as a tenor and Denis as a baritone.  Is there any canon to back that up?

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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2010, 02:20:13 pm »
I don't recall any such references from canon, but I could live with it. :) 
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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2010, 02:36:23 pm »
If Alaric is a tenor and Dennis is a baritone, does that mean Duncan sings bass? :)
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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2010, 02:42:07 pm »
If Alaric is a tenor and Dennis is a baritone, does that mean Duncan sings bass? :)

I've always 'heard' Duncan as a tenor also, but not the same type.  I'd cast Placido Domingo as Duncan and Siegfried Jerusalem as Alaric, with Thomas Hampson as Dennis.  Sherril Milnes would be Loris; he was always good at playing villains.

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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2010, 03:57:58 pm »
Not Seigfried Jerusalem for Alaric - please can we have Jussi Bjorling?!   That man could sing the telephone directory and make it sound utterly beautiful  :)    (Though if you were thinking of any duets with Duncan, then you'd better have Robert Merrill as Duncan).

Agree with your others, although Samuel Ramey could rival Sherril Milnes as a villain, methinks.



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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2010, 06:07:31 pm »
My "Gloom, Despair" ditty comes from "Hee Haw" in the 60's and 70's with Buck Owens and Roy Clark.  There were 4 guys telling bad stories, usually about their shrewish wives, about almost nothing going right in their lives.
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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2010, 07:55:35 pm »
Not Seigfried Jerusalem for Alaric - please can we have Jussi Bjorling?!   That man could sing the telephone directory and make it sound utterly beautiful  :)    (Though if you were thinking of any duets with Duncan, then you'd better have Robert Merrill as Duncan).

Agree with your others, although Samuel Ramey could rival Sherril Milnes as a villain, methinks.




Tall men are more likely to have deeper voices, so I've always seen Alaric as a baritone. (My choice would be Dmitri Hvorostovsky--man has the world's SEXIEST voice.  =o) I can see Duncan as a tenor more readily than as a bass, as I think he's not so tall as Alaric. Jussi Bjorling would be just right, and their voices would blend very well.  Arilan can be a baritone, too, perhaps more toward a bass baritone. He can be Hans Hotter.  :D


Kelson...I think he's a tenor.


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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2010, 08:15:17 pm »
Well, if you want a sexy baritone voice, go back a few years and try Erich Kunz - the man had a voice like warmed honey, LOL.   Or for looks plus a lighter baritone voice, Teddy Tahu Rhodes isn't bad at all - he's blond, about 6ft 6" tall and turned Aussie audiences to a sighing gooey mess when he sang Don Giovanni and appeared all in black, with thigh-high leather boots!  :D 

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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2010, 08:16:48 pm »
My favorite bass baritone is Wales' Bryn Terfel.  What a voice!
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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2010, 08:43:54 pm »
Quiet an interesting cast we are establishing here!  "The Deryni Opera" anyone?  :D


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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2010, 10:38:13 pm »

Tall men are more likely to have deeper voices, so I've always seen Alaric as a baritone.

Pavoratti was tall, and so is Placido Domingo.


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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2010, 10:40:23 pm »
Quiet an interesting cast we are establishing here!  "The Deryni Opera" anyone?  :D



We haven't cast any of the women, yet.


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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2010, 05:15:21 pm »
Teresa Stratas for Jehana.    Jehana has to have a real cutting edge to her at times, and as Stratas can sing Kurt Weill superbly, I reckon she'd do a magnificent Jehana.

Still thinking about Charissa and Richenda - both sopranos, but very different types.  Richenda really has to be a lovely lyrical soprano, while Charissa has to be able to do 'evil'.   Charissa could possibly me a mezzo though, which would give a bit of balance.

ETA:  Possibly Elly Ameling for Richenda.  I adore her voice, and she really is lyrical. 
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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2010, 05:57:45 pm »

Tall men are more likely to have deeper voices, so I've always seen Alaric as a baritone.

Pavoratti was tall, and so is Placido Domingo.


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The hero is always--or almost always--a tenor.

I don't dispute the existence of tall tenors. It's a physical tendency for taller men to have deeper voices, but that's far from absolute.

 It's simply that I "hear" Alaric as a baritone.  Kelson as a younger man would have a lighter voice.

Perhaps Bryn Terfel  could sing Nigel's part....

Need somebody good and villainous for Wencit, whom I definitely see as a bass...

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Re: The Bishop and the Birthday Girl
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2010, 06:25:46 pm »
ETA:  Possibly Elly Ameling for Richenda.  I adore her voice, and she really is lyrical. 


Elly doesn't do opera. 

As for Charissa, I've always pictured her as a coloratura, very like the Queen of the Night.

 

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