KK Chat - May 6, 2001

[RainbowDragon]

Session Start: Sun May 06 16:05:42 2001
[16:05] *** Now talking in #Deryni_Destinations
[16:05] *** Topic is 'Official Katherine Kurtz Chatroom (www.deryni.net) '
[16:05] *** Set by DeryniBot on Wed May 02 14:17:10
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[16:32] <Shiral> There need to be more veterinary Chiropractors
[16:32] <jessie> Hello Katherine
[16:32] <Wrengl>  6 Good evening Katherine
[16:32] <Shiral> Hello, Katherine!
[16:32] <Kendall> hi Katherine
[16:32] <Mak> Hi, Katherine!
[16:32] <Bynw> Hiyas KK
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[16:32] <virtualbabe> Hello Katherine
[16:32] <Shiral> Hi Bee
[16:32] <jessie> hello the_Bee
[16:32] <hygilac> Hello Katherine
[16:32] <KK> Hello, all.
[16:32] <Kendall> hello Bee
[16:32] <Rebecca> I'm supposed to restrict Enkidu's jumping.  Yeah right
[16:32] <Mak> Hi, Bee!
[16:32] <Rebecca> Hi Katherine
[16:32] <Mak> Try that with a cat!
[16:32] <Wrengl>  6 not easy to restrict a cat
[16:32] <hygilac> good luck, Rebecca
[16:33] <virtualbabe> try putting any limits on a cat
[16:33] <Rebecca> I know. I"ve got acess to the fridge blocked.
[16:33] <Shiral> Not unless you tranquilize it!
[16:33] <Kendall> lol
[16:33] <Rebecca> That's the highest place he jumps from.
[16:33] <KK> I was just jotting down the wedding page info.
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[16:33] <the_Bee> Hiyas all
[16:33] <jessie> hello Golux
[16:33] <Kendall> hey golux
[16:33] <Mak> Hi, Golux
[16:33] <Rebecca> hi eileen
[16:33] <KK> And Enkidu would be a....dog?
[16:33] <Shiral> Hello Eilieen
[16:33] <Rebecca> cat
[16:34] <Wrengl>  6 Another back problem
[16:34] <KK> Cat?
[16:34] <Kiri`> Hi Eileen!
[16:34] <KK> I note the mention of vet chiropractors.
[16:34] <Rebecca> same cat that was having problems several months ago.
It's started again
[16:34] <Golux> Hello, everybody!
[16:34] * Kiri` thnks Pet Chiropractors could be a good thing.
[16:34] <hygilac> just put catnip in lots of accessible places, Rebecca
[16:34] <the_Bee> Hi Golux
[16:34] <hygilac> he tried to crawl in my purse, you recall
[16:34] <Bynw> not much on that page except a donations link cant have bynw
and tika sharing the same computer ya know
[16:35] <Wrengl>  6 There are pet chiropractors
[16:35] <Rebecca> That was Gil
[16:35] <KK> Does your cat open the fridge door?
[16:35] <Shiral> Especially not at the full moon, Bynw!
[16:35] <Bynw> very true
[16:35] <virtualbabe> no, but I did have a cat who knew how to suck up to
the boss
[16:35] <Kendall> they all do
[16:35] <Rebecca> no.  But he likes to sit on top of it.  Can't let him do
that right now, in case it causes more problems with the back
[16:35] <the_Bee> Are pet chiropracters easier to care for than pet
goldfish?
[16:36] <Wrengl>  6 They are the boss.  YOU are merely a servant.
[16:36] <Shiral> Pan is a Refrigerator Cat
[16:36] <jessie> Katherine -- can one Deryni always truth read another
Deryni --even if the 2nd Deryni has his shields up?
[16:36] <Kendall> you are no one until you have been ignored by a cat!
[16:36] <Wrengl>  6  LOL
[16:37] <KK> Does the cat have all your collective tongues--er, fingers?
Everybody's gone very quiet at my arrival.
[16:37] <the_Bee> Wrengl, is Thumper feeling better?
[16:37] <Mak> My abyssinian could jump from dead standstill on the floor to
the top of the fridge.
[16:37] <Shiral> We're here!  Jessie asked the first question. <G>
[16:37] <Golux> I just got done re-buring a rat who died in Jan.  Marissa
dug her up.
[16:37] <Wrengl>  6 Yes.  Beginning to get more active, also.
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[16:37] <Kendall> I hope that you mean a cat and not a RAT
[16:38] <hygilac> it is hard to expalin to an animal tha tnormal activity is
bad for it
[16:38] <Wrengl>  6 Kendall, people DO have pet rats.
[16:38] <jessie> Katherine -- can one Deryni always truth read another
Deryni --even if the 2nd Deryni has his shields up?
[16:38] <virtualbabe> Ooooooooo gross!!!!!!
[16:38] <Kendall> jessie, jessie, always on task
[16:38] <Bynw> jessie the taskmaster
[16:38] <jessie> shiral told me to ask a question
[16:38] <Shiral> Well, Katherine's time IS precious. <G>
[16:38] <KK> OK, Bynw, i got nothing for a loooooong time, then scrolled up
to see what everybody had said; then it was pinging.
[16:38] <Wrengl>  6 Jessie has a one track mind.  She tries to keep us on
target!
[16:39] <Kendall> someone needs to
[16:39] <Shiral> Very focused, yes.
[16:39] <Bynw> it was pinging cause we where chatting to the room
[16:40] <KK> Hmmm, strange.
[16:40] <Bynw> if anyone types and you are scrolling up in mIRC it will make
that ding sound to let you know
[16:40] <virtualbabe> I'm not saying much because this is the first time
I've been in this chat when you are here katherine
[16:40] <KK> Jessie, a Deryni can almost always tell if another Deryni is
lying--but can't necessarily force another Deryni to <tell> the truth.
[16:41] <KK> Thanx, Bynw.
[16:41] <jessie> thank you
[16:41] <Kendall> don't be bashful debbie
[16:41] <Kendall> just jump right in
[16:41] <virtualbabe> bashful, that's me
[16:41] <Shiral> They can't really FORCE people to tell the truth, I
thought.  Getting the truth out of a person requires specific intent
[16:42] <Wrengl>  6 These chats are fairly informal, debbie
[16:42] <virtualbabe> that's the way i understood truthyreading.
[16:42] <the_Bee> Katherine, do you mean even when the other Deryni's
shields are up?
[16:42] <KK> BTW, Bynw, I had an e-mail from Michael Stackpole, and he's
sending me a copy of the Jedi adventure with the bit you sent me.
[16:42] <Shiral> I almost never wear my Tuxedo in the chatroom
[16:42] <jessie> so how did Camber/Alister avoid detection for so long --
was it because after assimilating Alister's memories -- he was both people
[16:42] <Bynw> cool :-)
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[16:42] <virtualbabe> would another deryni have read  a bishop?
[16:42] <Kendall> Melissa in a tux, now that be would be cool to see
[16:42] <Kiri`> hello hello
[16:42] * Bynw doesnt even where a tuxedo to his own wedding
[16:43] <Bynw> hiyas Susan!
[16:43] <Mak> Because you would have to know exactly what questions to ask
to see a lie
[16:43] <Unicorn636> Hello everyone!
[16:43] <KK> Camber/Alister didn't lie; he simply didn't always tell <all>
the truth.
[16:43] <Kendall> Hi susan
[16:43] <Shiral> Hi Susan
[16:43] <Wrengl>  6 Certainly would.  You and Thumper could both wear your
tuxedos!
[16:43] *** Bynw sets mode: +o Unicorn636
[16:43] <Mak> Hi, Susan
[16:43] <Unicorn636> Hi all.  Eek...it's changing my nick or something.
Help Chris!
[16:43] <Shiral> Heh, I don't actually own one either!
[16:43] <hygilac> hi Susan!
[16:43] <Bynw> what's changing your nick??
[16:43] <jessie> Katherine how is childe morgan coming?
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[16:43] <strueb> Hi, all.  KK, he alwayst reid NOT to be put in the psition
of telling all theruth, no?
[16:43] <Bynw> you didnt identify to nickserv
[16:44] <Guest46988> How is Thumper doing, Pat?
[16:44] <KK> NOTHING written this past week.  We were in Scotland for 3
days.
[16:44] <strueb> Bynw...?
[16:44] <Mak> I do- sort of. Have the shirt and bow tie- all you need is
jacket and pants. You can borrow it Melissa!
[16:44] <Kendall> oh to only have that problem
[16:44] <virtualbabe> meet adam there?
[16:44] <Guest46988> I forgot how to identify myself to nickserv, Chris.
What's the code?
[16:44] <Shiral> That's okay
[16:44] <jessie> Katherine:  any word on the release date for the anthology
[16:44] <Kiri`> KK- Dd you hae a good time in Scotland?  Was it a
mini-vacation?
[16:44] <Guest46988> How was Scotland?  Sounds wonderful!
[16:44] <Wrengl>  6 Thumper seems to be doing better, Susan.  Still not
walking but I think he wants to.
[16:44] <Shiral> Type /pass <your password> Suan
[16:45] <Bynw>  susan... first change back using /nick Unicorn636   then
type /pass yourpassword
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[16:45] <Shiral> I think I'll let Chris  do the instructing. <G>
[16:45] <KK> Scotland--looking at properties, decorating ideas, a St.
Lazarus investiture yesterday.
[16:45] <Guest46988> It says Unicorn636 is already in use.
[16:45] *** Guest46988 is now known as Unicorn636
[16:45] <Kiri`> KK - are you thining of buying in Scotland?
[16:45] <KK> Maybe.
[16:46] <Kiri`> you'd give up you castle?
[16:46] <Rebecca> a home away from home?
[16:46] <KK> Only for another castle.  :-)
[16:46] <Bynw> now do the /pass yournickpasword
[16:46] <Unicorn636> Yes!  Success!
[16:46] <Shiral> Hooray!
[16:46] <Wrengl>  6 Yippee!
[16:46] <Bynw> got to remember to do that Susan :-)
[16:46] <Unicorn636> I forgot that I changed my password twice when it
wouldn't work.
[16:46] *** Bynw sets mode: +o Unicorn636
[16:47] <jessie> Katherine:  any word on the release date for the anthology
[16:47] <Shiral> See any Scottish castles you liked? <G>?
[16:47] <Kiri`> KK - how is you resident ghost doing?
[16:47] <Wrengl>  6 Susan, only 19 days until freedom for me.
[16:47] <Unicorn636> That's right...you're about to retire.  Congrats Pat!
[16:47] <KK> Not yet.  Still haven't heard whether Ginjer has read and
accepted it yet.  She was at Nebulas until Wednesday, and we went Wednesday
to Scotland; returned last night.
[16:47] <Shiral> She's not looking forward to it, or anything.
[16:48] <KK> Only 19 days!!  Wow!
[16:48] <Unicorn636> Okay, this time I copied the sign in procedure down and
saved it.  Sorry about that.
[16:48] <Wrengl>  6 Made my dinner reservations - Australian restaurant.
And think I have a limo lined up.
[16:48] * Shiral REALLY hopes that Ginjer will like it....
[16:48] <KK> Ginjer will like it.
[16:48] <Bynw> Ginjer better like... I want to read the Green Tower and the
other stories
[16:48] <Rebecca> Sounds like fun Pat
[16:48] <Shiral> Oh good. <G>
[16:48] <KK> And apparently people are really liking the new Templar book.
SF Review loved it, and the sole Amazon review thus far is great.
[16:49] <Wrengl>  6 You and lats of others want to read that story Bynw
[16:49] <Shiral> Going to have Shrimp on the Barbie, Pat?  You'll have to
invite Donald along!
[16:49] <Kendall> speaking of releases what about the The Deryni Archives
The Magazine, when will that be out?
[16:49] <Wrengl>  6 I know.
[16:49] <virtualbabe> definitly.  I'm also looking forward to rob's Gwennedd
travlelogus
[16:49] <Kiri`> is glad to hear those reviews are good  =)
[16:49] <KK> DA Mag--you'll have to ask Julianne.
[16:49] <Shiral> The submission deadline was last monday.
[16:49] <Wrengl>  6 Don't know if they have shrimp.  They Do have kangaroo,
emu and Aussie wines, however.
[16:49] <KK> I haven't seen any of the material yet, so I expect it will be
summer.
[16:49] <Unicorn636> I didn't realize until last week's chat that the new
Templar book was out.  Mine just arrived, but I'm thinking of saving it for
a Mothers Day gift for mom.
[16:49] <Shiral> But I'd imagine that she'll wait until the school year is
out
[16:49] <Mak> Aussie wines can be bery good!
[16:50] <Rebecca> shrimp sounds downright mundane with that menu!
[16:50] <Shiral> Unless you ask Monty Python, Mak!
[16:50] <Kendall> I am still reading the Temple and the Crown, thanks for
using my surname in the book KK
[16:50] <Mak> Well, maybe we'll just leave Monty out of Pat's reitrement
dinner, eh?
[16:50] <Kendall> I really do like the book
[16:50] <KK> Which surname is that?
[16:50] <Kendall> Boyd
[16:51] <KK> Ah, yes.  Good Scottish name.
[16:51] <Kendall> yes it is
[16:51] <Wrengl>  6 I like many Aussie wines, although Red Ned is not one of
my favoites.  Hope they have a nice Shirraz or muscat
[16:51] <the_Bee> Was T&c's Boyd an actual historical person?
[16:51] <Golux> I can't stick around today, my parents just drove up.  My
mon is having surgery tomorrow in Stanford.  It may be ovarian cancer.  Keep
her in your thoughts and prayers.  I will be in touch.  BTW, Julie's and my
place are both possibilities for the visit to SF.
[16:51] <KK> Yes.
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[16:51] <KK> Good luck, Golux.
[16:51] <Wrengl>  6 Kathi can drink because she won't be driving.  The limo
driver will be doing that!
[16:51] <Shiral> Ack, Eileen. GOod luck to your mom!
[16:52] <virtualbabe> Major prayers Eileen
[16:52] <Kendall> still working on the family tree to see how far back I can
go
[16:52] <Rebecca> Eileen hope it turns out to be nothing at all!
[16:52] <Mak> Good thoughts, Eileen!
[16:52] <Wrengl>  6 Good luck to your mom Eileen
[16:52] <Golux> I will keep logged in for a while show I can show this to
mom.
[16:52] <Kendall> prayers are headed your way
[16:52] <Kiri`> EIleen - give me a call later tonght if you get a moment..
[16:52] <Shiral> Did Raymond finish his term paper? <G>
[16:52] <the_Bee> Hope you get good news, /eileen.
[16:52] <Unicorn636> We'll pray for your mom, Eileen!  Best wishes!
[16:52] <Shiral> Definitely hope so
[16:53] <KK> With this many prayer flares, things are bound to go well!
[16:53] <Shiral> I know that JastaElf turned in a story for DA to Julianne
[16:53] <KK> Ooooo, goodie!
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[16:53] <the_Bee> I sent in a poem.
[16:53] <Shiral> Linda and I have our filks
[16:53] <Kendall> I sent a story
[16:54] <Mak> I sent a story and a poem
[16:54] <KK> I'll be looking forward to reading all of them.
[16:54] <Unicorn636> Julianne was going to giv me an extension on the
deadline because of my mom's illness, but I fear I've even missed the
extended deadline.  This just hasn't been a year for writing for me.
[16:54] <virtualbabe> all these talented people!!!!
[16:54] <Kendall> if it doesn't make the mag it will make the ng
[16:54] <KK> You could jot things down on your flight to CA.
[16:55] <Shiral> Not a good spring for writing alas, Susan.  But maybe your
mom's health will hold good for a while and you can hit the keys, again!
[16:55] <Unicorn636> I was thinking about that...writing on the flight.   I
always take a notebook with me on trips so I can write.  Maybe I'll have
something when I arrive.  Wish I had a laptop, though.
[16:55] * jessie really recommends that susan lightly tap the keys instead
of hitting them
[16:55] <Kendall> we miss your writing, but we understand mom is much more
important
[16:55] <Kendall> brb
[16:55] <Bynw> me too
[16:55] <Shiral> Being a Good Daughter is VERY importan
[16:55] <Shiral> important
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[16:56] <Kiri`> has a palm witha keyboard.. vfery handy.
[16:56] <Unicorn636> Thanks for missing my stuff and for understanding.  Mom
is doing pretty well right now and actually was hungry for dinner last night
and breakfast this morning which is a giant step in the right direction.
Now if we could just get her comfy using the quad cane and off that
walker...
[16:56] <Shiral> ANy ideas for jotting down yet, Susan?
[16:56] <Unicorn636> Oh, I have a story all planned out in my head, I just
haven't gotten around to writing it.
[16:57] <virtualbabe> glad to hear it susan.
[16:57] <Shiral> That's a good start!
[16:57] <Rebecca> That's good to hear Susan
[16:57] <strueb> Susan, that's very good news!
[16:57] <Mak> Good news, Susan
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[16:57] <Kiri`> kk - what kind of decorating ideas were you looking for?
[16:57] <Kendall> what did I miss
[16:57] <strueb> wb, kendall.
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[16:57] <Unicorn636> Well, and there are a couple things I have to look up,
too.  It's basically a twist on the DA story I was working on a whlie ago.
[16:57] <Shiral> Nothing too Crucial, Kendall
[16:58] <Unicorn636> Thanks! <G>
[16:58] <jessie> Katherine:  So -- what adventures are you planning to write
about next week for our heros in Childe Morgan
[16:58] <Bynw> of all the rooms on the server/network we are #2 in number of
users right now
[16:58] <the_Bee> Hi Colin
[16:58] <Colin> Hello
[16:58] <Rebecca> cool
[16:58] <jessie> welcome Colin
[16:58] <KK> Castle decor, Kiri.  We went to Edinburgh Castle, where we
hadn't been in many years.
[16:58] <Kendall> hello Colin
[16:58] <Mak> I've got to go- daughters needing to be picked up from work!
[16:58] <Shiral> Deer antlers? Tartan rugs? Etc, etc, Katherine? <G>
[16:58] <Unicorn636> Oh, I bet Edinburgh Castle is gorgeous!
[16:58] <the_Bee> Which century do you plan to decorate in?
[16:58] <Kiri`> KK - are you planning o redecorate you castle, or was it moe
research/fun?
[16:58] <Kendall> this one of course
[16:59] <strueb> ...trhe stone of Scone, perhaps?...<G>
[16:59] <Shiral> LOL, Kendall!
[16:59] <KK> Tapestries, paneling, carpets.
[16:59] <Unicorn636> DId you ever get the sword-wheel thing you were
thinking of putting over the stairs?
[16:59] <Kendall> cool
[16:59] <jessie> Katherine:  how close does one have to be to another person
to truth read them?
[16:59] <Kendall> go Jessie, go
[16:59] <KK> No sword-wheel yet.
[16:59] <Shiral> A woman on a roll
[16:59] <Kendall> determined isn't she?
[17:00] <KK> You'd have to be within sight to read.
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[17:00] <jessie> thank you
[17:00] <Bynw> I still think that a Deryni with shields up cant be truth
read by another Deryni... but it's a dead give away that they are lying
[17:00] <Shiral> Probably better to be in the same room with the person
you're reading, I'd imagine
[17:00] * jessie thinks that means that you could stand on one side of the
state of kansas and truth read someone on the other side
[17:00] <KK> Good call, Bynw.
[17:01] <Shiral> Wouldn't you have a tremendous headache, though? <G>
[17:01] <the_Bee> I'm curious about the other kingdoms.  Do we know when
Mooryn became part of Gwynedd?
[17:01] <virtualbabe> Are you implying that kansas is kind of flat?
[17:01] <KK> Or at least that they have something to hide.
[17:01] <Bynw> exactly
[17:01] <jessie> or don't trust the people they are around
[17:01] <Bynw> kinda??
[17:01] <Shiral> But then, if they have THEIR shields up, they can't read
the reader very easily
[17:01] <Kendall> that Kansas is flat or trying to hide someting Chris
[17:01] <KK> Jessie, the earth curves too much for that to work.
[17:02] * jessie was just kidding
[17:02] * Shiral pats Jessie on the shoulder It's okay. =o)
[17:02] <KK> Seriously, line of sight would be the--er, rule of thumb.
[17:02] <Wrengl>  6 You really did not want to belong to the Flat Earth
Society, jessie
[17:02] <Shiral> BUt it would get harder the farther away they were?
[17:02] <Unicorn636> So you could truthread someone you could see, even if
they for some reason couldn't see you?
[17:02] <virtualbabe> It sounds to me like truth-reading will work as long
as you can hear the other person
[17:02] <Bynw> shields are a prison as well as a fortress....cant be
truth-read and cant truth -read
[17:03] <Kendall> good point
[17:03] <Bynw> if ones shields are up fully
[17:03] <jessie> kk said you can truth read with shield
[17:03] <Wrengl>  6 But could not FORCE the truth
[17:03] <jessie> yes
[17:03] <strueb> Well, if you're reading body-language and tone of voice,
shields ewouldn't be of much help.
[17:03] * Kiri` grabs a shield.. truth-reads th room.. discovers Kansas has
a lot to hide...
[17:03] <KK> Yes, line of hearing would be another rule of thumb--and you
can't truth read if your own shields are all the way up.
[17:03] <Shiral> LOL, Kiri!
[17:04] <Bynw> LOL
[17:04] <Wrengl>  6 I like that, Kiri
[17:04] <strueb> whoops!  That shoots my theory...<G>
[17:04] * Kendall laughs loudly at Kiri
[17:04] <Shiral> So Dhugal was definitely hampered in Bishop's Heir through
having those rigid shields
[17:04] <Bynw> yes
[17:04] <KK> I think Kansas probably does have a lot to hide--in amidst the
corn, perhaps?  Ah, Children of Corn.  Run away, run awaaaay!
[17:04] <Bynw> hehehehehe
[17:05] * virtualbabe giggles @ KK
[17:05] <Kendall> sorry folks but life calls, I am afraid I must depart
[17:05] <Shiral> But then, since he didn't really know how to use his powers
anyway, it was kind of a moot point
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[17:05] <Shiral> Bye, Kendall
[17:05] <KK> Bye, Kendall.
[17:05] <Bynw> cya Kendall
[17:05] <Unicorn636> Bye Kendall
[17:05] * Kendall steps onto his Transfer Portal, winks at Jessie and
disappears into thin air
[17:05] * Shiral tickles KK with a sardine
[17:05] <virtualbabe> bye-eee kendall
[17:05] <jessie> bye Kendall
[17:05] <Colin> Bye, Kendall
[17:05] <AEves_Spirit> hi all
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[17:05] <strueb> Hi, Aeve!
[17:05] <jessie> wb AEves_Spirit
[17:05] <hygilac> Hi AEves
[17:05] <the_Bee> Bye Kendall!  Hi EAves Spirit!
[17:05] <Wrengl>  6 Hi Aeve
[17:05] <Unicorn636> Could you truthread someone you could hear but not see?
Like if the person is in the room upstairs or next door.
[17:05] * KK pokes Shiral's sardine with a.... pike.
[17:05] <Shiral> Why is it that I can never remember the questions I MEAN to
ask whenever I'm in here
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[17:06] <hygilac> or Barrett?
[17:06] <Shiral> OW!
[17:06] <hygilac> surely he can truthread
[17:06] <jessie> good question Susan
[17:06] <Bynw> ooooh......good question
[17:06] <Unicorn636> Thanks!
[17:06] <Shiral> If he's learned to read printed words without being able to
see them, he must have learned other ways to compensate as well
[17:06] <KK> Well, you must be able to.  I'm sure Barrett can truth-read.
[17:06] <virtualbabe> All javqan needed to do was hear the regents to tell
if they were  truthful
[17:07] <the_Bee> But they didn't have shields.
[17:07] <virtualbabe> sheehs, javan
[17:07] <Shiral> Nor did they realize he was truthreading them, luckily for
Javan
[17:07] <KK> Yeah, reading humans is no problem.
[17:07] <KK> A Deryni also might not realize he was being truth-read.
[17:08] <strueb> How about humans with a little deryni training - like those
working with healers?
[17:08] * Kiri` had this idea that truth-reading was a moderately passive
talent/function.. (i.e. non-intrusive)
[17:08] <jessie> circa -- Alaric & Matyas -- i.e. Alaric assumed that Matyas
& Rasoul were truthreading -- but he didn't know for sure
[17:08] <Unicorn636> Katherine, I have an e-mail from a Christie who is
desperate to get Deryni Rising, Deryni Checkmate, and High Deryni with
Darrell K. Sweet cover art.  Do such copies exist?  Where should i tell her
to look?
[17:08] <KK> Hmmm, here we're getting into shades and degrees.  But yes,
truth-reading is passive/non-invasive.  Different from compelling the truth.
[17:09] <Shiral> She e-mailed me too, and said she'd found them, Susan
[17:09] <jessie> Unicorn636 -- have her check out half.com -- they are all
for sale there
[17:09] <Unicorn636> Oh, good!  See how far behind I am on my e-mail?
[17:09] <KK> Glad she found them.  I was going to say I'd look and see if I
had spares.
[17:09] <Shiral> Christie is a VERY passionate young fan
[17:10] <Unicorn636> Yes!  She started out very angry at me because I didn't
answer her e-mail for like 2 weeks but she got really nice after I explained
why I was offline.
[17:10] <KK> You had a good excuse, Susan.
[17:10] <Shiral> I had to ask her to slow down a little, or she'd have sent
me three e-mails a day. =o)
[17:10] <Colin> Question for KK......
[17:11] <Kiri`> KK - was lammas Night ever done in hardback?  if so, where
might I find a copy?
[17:11] <Shiral> Jump in, Colin
[17:11] <Colin> Will you be writing about what happens in 948?
[17:11] <KK> Severn did a hardback in the UK.  You might be able to find a
copy second-hand--though I doubt it.
[17:11] <Bynw> Kiri`,I think I saw it at half.com
[17:11] <KK> Yes, COlin.
[17:11] <Unicorn636> I think Lammas Night was only done in hardback in the
UK...I've never been able to find it either.
[17:11] <Wrengl>  6 Lammas Night was only in paper here in the US
[17:11] <Bynw> Not sure if it was the hardback though
[17:11] <Colin> There are several deaths that year.
[17:12] <Rebecca> that's an understatement
[17:12] <the_Bee> We're all speculating about 948, Colin.
[17:12] <strueb> Seems to be a rather pivotal time...(how's that for
understatement?)
[17:12] <virtualbabe> Unfortunatly Mark of festil was not one of them
[17:12] <Shiral> Very good. <G>
[17:12] <Unicorn636> We know that there are a war and a plague in 948.
[17:12] <virtualbabe> that's from the codex?
[17:13] <Shiral> Both of which can account for a lot of deaths, but we don't
know the exact circumstances
[17:13] <Wrengl>  6 And would like to see that book.  But I am glad Childe
Morgan will be first!
[17:13] <Shiral> Me too, Pat. <G>
[17:13] <Unicorn636> Which is intriguing...obviously Marek gets defeated
since he doesn't become King of Gwynedd...but he survives and doesn't attack
again.  I'm thinking Joram and company do something to Marek that
neutralizes him but kills them.
[17:13] <Shiral> SO, Katherine, did Jared McLain ever realize or suspect
Vera and Duncan were Deryni?
[17:13] <Bynw> Hey Shiral, check out may webcam its at
www.psionics.net/webcam/webcam.html ... see what's on the wall behind me
[17:13] <virtualbabe> I've been waiting for Childe Morgan since i read about
it in Deryni Archives, (the book)
[17:14] <KK> Jared may well have suspected.
[17:14] <jessie> but he didn't know
[17:14] <Wrengl>  6 I've been waiting even longer, Debbie!
[17:14] <jessie> did he know that Vera was Alyce's sister?
[17:14] <the_Bee> But Vera never told him?
[17:15] <KK> No, Jessie.
[17:15] <Shiral> And next, you said in Quest that Duncan's mother would have
been furious to know he wanted to Marry Maryse rather than become a priest.
Part of me can understand, but part of me wonders if Vera realized the
danger to Duncan?
[17:15] <jessie> when did Vera find out she was Alyce's sister
[17:15] <Unicorn636> So who all knew that Vera was Alyce's sister?  The CC
presumably knew...or some of them.  Were either Vera or Alyce on the CC?
[17:16] <KK> Neither was on the CC.
[17:16] <Wrengl>  6 and when did Duncan and Alaric find out they were
cousins?
[17:16] * Bynw will be right back
[17:16] <KK> D & A were cousins from another family connection as well as
first cousins by being sons of Vera & Alyce.
[17:16] <virtualbabe> they probably knew of the paternal relationship for a
long time.
[17:16] <the_Bee> Vera's foster mother was close friends with her and
Alyce's birth-mother (name?).
[17:16] <AEves_Spirit> I think Jared may have been one of the few that
accepted Deryni for who they were rather than what they were, and just kept
his own counsel?
[17:17] <Unicorn636> Aw...too bad.   That neither Vera nor Alyce was on the
CC.  Did the CC knwo the truth?
[17:17] <the_Bee> The girts may have been childhood playmates.
[17:17] <strueb> Gee, Katherine.  SOunds like half  or more of Europe's
royal families!<G>
[17:17] <KK> Alyce's mother was Stevana, the little girl in The Green Tower.
[17:17] <jessie> when did Vera find out she was Alyce's sister
[17:17] <jessie> or did she always know
[17:17] <KK> Jared was of Border blood; they knew the truth about Deryni.
[17:17] <Shiral> I've always wondered how Vera must have felt when she found
out her mother had given her up, even for what Stevana considered to be
unselfish reasons
[17:17] <virtualbabe> Speaking of the CC knowing.  does anyone on the
council know about morgan's true [parantage?
[17:17] <KK> Not sure, Jessie.
[17:18] <KK> No one on the CC knew of Alaric's true parentage.
[17:18] <Unicorn636> And how is Stevanna related to the Kensell's mom?
[17:18] <jessie> if Vera's foster parents were human -- where did she get
her training in things Deryni?
[17:18] <Kiri`> KK - is Alaric some kind of descendant (non-direct) of
Charlan?  *thinks it would be really nice if he was.. *
[17:18] <KK> Vera would have understood.
[17:19] <Shiral> Very noble of her. <G>
[17:19] <Rebecca> Kiri, Alaric is a many times great nephew of Charlan's
[17:19] <Shiral> I might have kicked up somewhat more of a fuss!
[17:19] <Kiri`> Rebecca - oh good .. thanks =)  *happy abou that*
[17:19] * Bynw is back
[17:19] <KK> Both Vera and Alyce would have been trained from a very early
age to see their part in the greater picture--sort of like the Bene
Gesserit.
[17:19] <jessie> by whom?
[17:20] <Shiral> This is true
[17:20] <KK> Stevana, while she was still alive.
[17:20] <jessie> but Vera was adopted by someone else
[17:20] <Unicorn636> So who was training Vera and Alyce in matters arcane?
Someone who knew the truth obviously.  Sief MacAthan perhaps?  Or Michon de
Courcy?
[17:20] <KK> Remember that Stevana was Lewys ap Norfal's daughter.
[17:20] <jessie> did they live close enough that Vera could be trained by
Stevana?
[17:20] <Shiral> Um, wasn't that Jessamy?
[17:21] <KK> Oops, sorry.
[17:21] <Shiral> <G>
[17:21] <Rebecca> Stevana is Jerian de Corwin's daughter
[17:21] <AEves_Spirit> I don't remember reading about Stevana... what book
is she in?
[17:21] <Unicorn636> Jessamy...that's the name I couldn't remember.  How is
Jessamy related to Stevana?
[17:21] <virtualbabe> all these names that  I don't know, being one of the
codexless<pout>
[17:21] * jessie looks a AEves_Spirit -- Codex
[17:21] <Unicorn636> Stevana and Jessamy are in the new book..Childe Morgan
and in the fanthology in KK's story.
[17:21] <KK> Stevana isn't in any of the books yet--but she's in The Green
Tower.
[17:22] <the_Bee> Look for Stevana and Jessamy in The Green Tower.
[17:22] * Shiral thinks longingly of reading THe Green Tower...
[17:22] <Bynw>   3The Green Tower
[17:22] <AEves_Spirit> action/ AEves_Spirit sticks out her tongue at Jessie
and reminds her that she doesn't have a Codex! 
[17:22] * jessie doesn't have a codex either AEves_Spirit
[17:22] <KK> Stevana and Jessamy were great friends until Stevana's death.
[17:22] <AEves_Spirit> lol
[17:22] <Bynw> AEves_Spirit, it's /me  :-)
[17:23] <strueb> Nor do I, Aeves!  <boohoo>
[17:23] <Shiral> And after Stevana died, what happened?
[17:23] <AEves_Spirit> thank you Bynw
[17:23] <Unicorn636> So Stevana and Jessamy are friends but they aren't
related?
[17:23] <KK> They were't friends anymore, at least not on this plane.  :-)
[17:23] * Bynw has codex #210 which made an appearence and DragonCon
[17:23] <Bynw> er at
[17:24] * jessie tells Bynw not to rub it in
[17:24] <Shiral> Oh DUH!!!  I'm getting my generations mixed up!!
[17:24] * virtualbabe sticks out her tongue @ bynw
[17:24] <Shiral> Now do you codexless ones need a timeout? <G>
[17:24] <KK> Stevana is Alyce and Vera's mother; Jessamy is Lewys' daughter.
[17:24] * virtualbabe will be getting codex II if it ever comes out
[17:24] <AEves_Spirit> no, Shiral - we need a codex! lol
[17:24] <strueb> No, continue.  I'm alway up for learning something...
[17:25] <Shiral> Obviously after Stevana died, She and Jessamy could no
longer be friends on the earthly plane!
[17:25] <the_Bee> Any news on Codex 2?
[17:25] <Bynw> we need to get Rob in here to chat too
[17:25] * Kiri` offers tacos all around in honor of Cinco De Mayo...
[17:25] <virtualbabe> Last I heard, it will be delayed till spring because
of the Gwennedd travlelogue
[17:25] <KK> Rob is doing the Eleven Kingdoms Guide first.
[17:26] <Unicorn636> Will the Eleven Kingdoms Guide be out by Darkover?
[17:26] <AEves_Spirit> Rob is a *very* busy man
[17:26] * Colin thinks that spring is here.
[17:26] <Rebecca> Anne says yes
[17:26] <KK> I had an e-mail from Rob inviting me to speak at CSUSB right
after Darkover, and to officially present my manuscripts, which are now
archived there.
[17:26] <virtualbabe> Speaking of Rob, has the Killingford hronicles been
picked up?
[17:27] * the_Bee passes a bottle of tequila to go with Kiri's tacos.
[17:27] <Unicorn636> Cool!
[17:27] <Shiral> I was wondering about Vera's anger regarding Duncan wanting
to marry Maryse rather than enter the priesthood.  Did Vera realize the full
danger to Duncan, and could she not have resigned herself to having him
married happily instead of becoming a priest?
[17:27] <KK> We haven't really talked about that yet.  I want to see how
some of these other collaborative efforts go first.
[17:27] <Kiri`> kk - in what terms?
[17:27] * Kiri` is curious
[17:28] <KK> I don't think Duncan ever asked her about marrying Maryse; but
he did know that she was set on him being a priest, as some mothers are.
[17:28] <AEves_Spirit> Might Vera have thought that the risk to Duncan may
have been smaller, with his Deryni heritage being so dilute?
[17:28] <KK> In what what terms, Kiri?
[17:28] <the_Bee> He would have asked if not for the feud, I think.
[17:28] <Kiri`> <KK> We haven't really talked about that yet.  I want to see
how some of these other collaborative efforts go first.
[17:28] <KK> If not for the feud, he might have.
[17:29] <Shiral> I know that he didn't actually tell her. I just wondered if
Vera could have come to accept him as a safe, secular husband rather than a
possibly dead priest in time
[17:29] <Unicorn636> Wouldn't Vera have worried that Duncan would be
discovered and burned at the stake when he tried to become a priest?  Or did
she know about Arilan and know that he'd have help getting through?
[17:30] * Shiral sets out some salt-rimmed glasses a blender, ice  and lime
juice for margaritas....
[17:30] <KK> I don't think that by then she would have known <how> Deryni
were prevented from being priests.  I doubt many tried to do it, after the
first few denerations of dead Deryni would-be priests.
[17:30] <the_Bee> Hard to imagine Arilan confiding in someone he didn't know
VERY well
[17:30] <KK> generations.
[17:30] <Unicorn636> Ah, but how do we know if Arilan and Vera knew each
other?  Or maybe she was friends with Jamyl and knew the family  was Deryni?
[17:30] <virtualbabe> how many times did it actually happen that a deryni
would try to become a priest?
[17:31] <KK> Outside the CC, other Deryni would not known of Arilan's
success.
[17:31] <Shiral> I wonder if she'd heard any of the rumors of how Jorian de
Courcy was REALLY discovered at his ordination.
[17:31] * AEves_Spirit blesses Shiral for the idea of making Margaritas
[17:31] <Shiral> I would think that news like that would get around the
Deryni community of Gwynedd
[17:31] <KK> Half a dozen to a dozen, maybe, mostly in the early days of the
ban?
[17:31] <KK> There aren't that many Deryni in high places, and they dare not
jeopardize their own cover.
[17:32] <Shiral> No, they wouldn't.   But wouldn't they still hear rumors of
how the Church was using Merasha in the ordination wine?
[17:32] <Unicorn636> But we know a couple got by...like the Haldane who
becomes Archbishop of Rhemuth.
[17:33] * Shiral passes Aeve a nice cool Margarita
[17:33] <KK> A Haldane--but he wouldn't have been seen as a Deryni--and the
royals would have their own sources for the wine.
[17:33] <Unicorn636> So far as we know Denis Arilan is the only one who
figured out the merasha in the wine ploy...but he told Coram and Laran, so
presumably the whole CC of the time knew.
[17:33] <virtualbabe> but would a haldane who has not gone through the
ritual be affected by merasha?
[17:33] * strueb passe shiral some guacamole dip...
[17:33] <KK> And they wouldn't know about the connection.
[17:34] * AEves_Spirit sets out the vege-chili
[17:34] <Shiral> So no Haldane Priest/Prince would have had to drink the
"ordination red" vintage that the regular candidates drank
[17:34] <jessie> can the Haldane powers be blocked just as deryni powers
are?  that question was raised in the Heirs -- but not answered
[17:34] <Bynw> I think that they could be
[17:35] <KK> A royal ordination would have been a solo affair, probably at
the cathedral, and the king would have proviced the ordination wine.
[17:35] <AEves_Spirit> Would blocking a Haldane be kind of the reverse of
the initiation?
[17:35] <strueb> Good question.  If the powers are affected so by merasha,
it sems that blocking would work, too.
[17:35] <Shiral> A- HA!!
[17:35] * Wrengl puts out a tray of nachos
[17:35] <jessie> Tavis wondered if Javan could be blocked
[17:35] <Unicorn636> Ahah...that explains how the Haldane got by.  I would
think you could block a Haldane the same as any Deryni.
[17:35] * Shiral claps on her sombrero
[17:35] <KK> Haldanes could be blocked.  I think they're probably mostly
blocked to start with, and the initiation unblocks them.
[17:36] <Unicorn636> So genetically Haldanes are Deryni then?
[17:36] <Kiri`> would they use that wiyth a haldane?  they think the
ha;danes are completely human
[17:36] <virtualbabe> YES!!!!!! that was my theory some time ago in the ng
[17:36] <jessie> has the knowledge of the blocking talent survived dow to
Kelson's days?
[17:36] <KK> I think Haldanes are a very specialized kind of Deryni, even
rarer than Healers.
[17:36] <Bynw> there is a lot of deryni blood in the haldanes though....
looking that their family history of known deryni
[17:36] <jessie> sovereigns
[17:37] * Rebecca to Susan: Just finished running a kinship report. Jessamyn
and Stevana are third cousins once removed
[17:37] <strueb> A novel concept (no pun intended) Katherine!
[17:37] <virtualbabe> they barely knew about healers in kelson's day
[17:37] <KK> Yes, there is Deryni blood regularly infused into the Haldane
line.
[17:37] <Shiral> I hope that if the blocking talent exists, that Kelric
won't discover he can do it in the same way that Tieg did. <G>
[17:37] <Bynw> make mommy clear
[17:37] <virtualbabe> Blocking alaric?
[17:37] <the_Bee> You said way back in Genetics 101 that Y-primers were
another kind of Deryni.
[17:37] <Shiral> Uh-oh......BIG mess!
[17:37] <jessie> Katherine -- you mean that there is an intentional (by
someone) arrangement to make sure that the Haldanes marry deryni?
[17:38] <Wrengl>  6 NO!  Not Kelric and blocking.  Save us oh Lord!
[17:38] <Unicorn636> Thanks Rebecca!  I thought Jessamy and Stevana were
related somehow.
[17:38] <strueb> Mu sentiments, too!
[17:38] <Kiri`> wait a minute.  By Kelson;'s tim there is Deyni blood in te
royal line.   SO what it seems to be is a lineage that had deryni -like
powers imposed and then had Deryni enter the bloodline.
[17:38] <KK> It's occasionally arranged--and sometimes it just happens.
[17:38] <Shiral> Now then, be calm, Pat and Streub! We don't even know if
Kelric will be a Healer
[17:38] <jessie> kinda like the cycle in Lammas Night?
[17:38] <virtualbabe> Was Brion's arranged?
[17:39] <Kiri`> so being aspecial kind of Deryni doesn'tmake much sense.
[17:39] <Unicorn636> There were Deryni in the Haldane line way back
too...Bearand's mom is a Torenthi Festillic Princess.
[17:39] <Wrengl>  6 With our luck Kelric WILL be a healer
[17:39] <Bynw> I think it's ironic that the regents made it happen with
Rhysem
[17:39] <strueb> He imnpresses me as a Tieg - only more so and perhaps more
precocious...
[17:39] <virtualbabe> They didn't know Mika was deryni.  she was blocked
[17:39] <Shiral> How could anyone know that Brion would fall in love with
Jehana, though?
[17:39] <Unicorn636> Kelric should be a Healer...and so should Briony.  That
would be cool!  And maybe one of them should be a blocker...or can female
healers be blockers?  Was Jerusha a blocker?
[17:39] <Bynw> i know...but it's still funny
[17:40] <Kiri`> and Mika made sure Oain was blocked for his own safety
[17:40] <jessie> ?
[17:40] <Shiral> When did that happen?
[17:40] <Kiri`> end of Bastard Prince
[17:40] <Rebecca> THey set his potential at the end of TBP
[17:40] <Shiral> Remember though SUsan, that RHys and Evaine had four kids
and only the two younger ones were Healers
[17:40] <KK> My, my, my, so many questions.  :-)
[17:41] <Kiri`> yes and blocked him (like all children) from using them when
she wasn't around
[17:41] <Wrengl>  6  LOL
[17:41] <strueb> ANd we're hoping you have the answers, Katherine.<G>
[17:41] * Shiral passes Katherine a Margarita
[17:41] <hygilac> Well, folks, Huck Finn is calling me
[17:41] * Colin wonders if KK feels like a butterfly, surrounded by people
holding pins.
[17:41] <hygilac> test over the first third tomorrow, and I have yet to type
it
[17:41] <Shiral> Bye Linda
[17:41] <Kiri`> would like to know more abou Mika.. anyone surviving 80
years under that has to have had an interestinglife.
[17:41] <Unicorn636> True...but we don't know if Jerusha inherited the
blocking talent..or if any of her kids or Tieg's kids  inherited it.
[17:41] <KK> There's blocking and there's blocking.  What parents do to keep
their precocious children from flexing their magical muscles too soon or
unsupervisied is different from what Rhys discovered how to do.
[17:41] <Rebecca> bye LInda
[17:41] <Unicorn636> When is school out Linda?
[17:41] <AEves_Spirit> bye Linda
[17:42] <Bynw> cya linda
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[17:42] <jessie> Katherine:  did Joram, Ansel, Jesse, Gregory, Queron, Tavis
serve on the CC until they died?
[17:42] <strueb> Bye, Kinda...
[17:42] <Unicorn636> Bye Linda
[17:42] <KK> Oops, she's already gone.
[17:42] <Unicorn636> Did Tieg, Jerusha, and Rhysel eventually join the CC?
[17:42] <Shiral> The parental blocking is not considered as thorough. Also,
most Deryni Children don't really come into their powers until puberty,
right?
[17:42] <Kiri`> kk - i know.. i just don't have a different term for it =)
[17:42] <KK> People do occasionally retire from the CC.
[17:42] <KK> They don't always die in harness.
[17:43] <jessie> did those above -- or do you know yet
[17:43] <strueb> Retire - or quit?
[17:43] <Shiral> Some are forced out, like Thorne Hagen
[17:43] <KK> Retire or quit.  Same end result.  Sometimes if they quit they
come back, like Sofiana.
[17:43] <strueb> CC isn't known for its err, harmony...
[17:43] <AEves_Spirit> Thorne deserved to be forced out!
[17:43] <Shiral> I agree
[17:44] <strueb> Got that in one, Aeves!
[17:44] <Unicorn636> I still want to know what the CC does to those who
quit/retire/get kicked out to keep them from revealing secrets, like
Arilan's Deryni identity.  Thorne and the real Rhydon were nasty so what
kept them quiet about that?
[17:44] <Shiral> So, aside from Thorne have their been other CC members
who've had the golden handshake?
[17:44] <AEves_Spirit> That's what is so good about the CC - the fact that
between them they tend to see all the angles and possibilities.
[17:45] <KK> Yes, Shiral.
[17:45] <strueb> What's that golden handshake?  A lifetime portal pass?<G>
[17:45] <Bynw> I think that on joining they have triggers set
[17:45] <Shiral> I rather suspected there had been. <G>
[17:45] <virtualbabe> except where deryni half-breeds were concerned
[17:45] <AEves_Spirit> The fact that they may not always act on them to what
we, the readers' think would be the best outcome is what also makes them
human...
[17:45] <Shiral> GIven how contentious they can be.
[17:45] <KK> Good surmise, Bynw.
[17:45] <the_Bee> I imagine there are compulsions set to keep ex-CC-ers from
revealing secrets.
[17:45] <Shiral> Getting along with Vivienne would take a lot of diplomacy
at times
[17:46] <KK> Yeah, Vivienne was a little stroppy, wasn't she?
[17:46] * virtualbabe giggles @ shiral
[17:46] <jessie> part of the initiation ceremony stops anyone from revealing
what they shouldn't -- doesn't it
[17:46] <strueb> One could say that...
[17:46] <Shiral> Perhaps I should have said the golden boot, streub!
[17:46] <Bynw> death triggers probably......dont want to set that timebomb
off so they keep very quiet
[17:46] <KK> The compulsions wouldn't extend so far as erasing the
knowledge; they just couldn't pass it on.
[17:46] <Kiri`> KK - have you decided if Mika will have another "love" in
her life? she doesn't remarry, but ti seems wrong for her to spend the rest
of her life totally alone.
[17:46] <Unicorn636> That would make sense but wasn't it said somewhere that
a Deryni had to agree to have a death trigger set?  Can you force one on
somebody?
[17:46] <strueb> Much better!  (and locking that key that bynw mentioned...)
[17:47] <Shiral> So do you know what MADE Vivienne the person she was,
Katherine. Or did she come out of the box like that?
[17:47] <Wrengl>  6  LOL
[17:47] <Shiral> Oo, good question, Kiri!
[17:47] <Kiri`> get you Deryni-in -a-box!
[17:47] <Shiral> Kid of like Malibu Barbie....<EG>
[17:47] <AEves_Spirit> LOL
[17:47] <KK> I haven't ruled out another live interest for Mika.  And she
could have remarried; the charts for the royals usually only show matches
that produce offspring who figure in the succession.  That's why some of the
royal children didn't show up on the initial genealogy charts.
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[17:48] <AEves_Spirit> hi Beowulf
[17:48] * Kiri` suggests another interest fo Mika.. sh's so young.
[17:48] <Shiral> Ooo,very intriguing.  I was recently rereading Bastard
Prince, and Mika's grief for Rhysem made me cry all over again. <G>
[17:48] <Beowulf83> hi
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[17:48] <Kiri`> someone who will help her .. not hinder.
[17:48] <strueb> Howdy, Beowulf!
[17:48] <Shiral> And give her some happiness and emotional support
[17:49] <KK> Hello, Beowulf.
[17:49] <jessie> okay -- so where in the game plan of books -- 948 - Orin -
Jodotha- do we get the sequels to the Heirs to find out about Mika?
[17:49] <Shiral> Hi Beowulf
[17:49] <Beowulf83> so, wuts this room all about
[17:49] <Kiri`> exactly.. being devestatingly handsome wouldn't hurt =)
[17:49] <Shiral> The Heirs of the Heirs of St. Camber? <EG>
[17:49] <jessie> yes
[17:49] <AEves_Spirit> LOL
[17:49] <KK> Definitely 948.
[17:49] <Shiral> You're absolutely right, Kiri. <G>
[17:49] <strueb> works for me, shiral! <grin>
[17:49] <Kiri`> and someone good for Rhysel!
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[17:49] <the_Bee> Hi Roland!Beowuld, this rooms about Katherine Kurtz and
her Deryni fantasy novels.
[17:50] <Shiral> She gets Robert Ainslie, and he's a good egg
[17:50] <jessie> Beowulf83 -- we discuss the Deryni books that were written
by Katherine Kurtz
[17:50] <Unicorn636> Good...Lot's of intriguing stuff happens in 948.  Is
the 948 stuff connected to Childe Morgan somehow?  Is that why you decided
to do 948 next?
[17:50] <AEves_Spirit> hi Roland and Vaxalon
[17:50] <Vaxalon> Greetings
[17:50] <Kiri`> she marries ainslie?
[17:50] <jessie> hello Vaxalon
[17:50] <Beowulf83> then i should probably read some b4 i come here
[17:50] <Rebecca> yes, Kiri and has several children by him
[17:50] <Beowulf83> bye all
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[17:50] <Shiral> Yes, Rhysel/Liesl marries Robert Ainslie at the end of
Bastard PRince
[17:51] <virtualbabe> She was married to him at the end of the bastard
Prince
[17:51] <the_Bee> Rhysel and Robert marry at the end of TBP.
[17:51] <KK> 948 seems to be needed next, to tie up some of the loose ends
at the end of Bastard Prince.
[17:51] <Kiri`> i really have to re-read my codex
[17:51] <Roland_Delacroix> hello, havent read the series but heard i should.
They deal with psioniscists right?
[17:51] <Kiri`> how could i have forgotten that.
[17:51] <virtualbabe> in a way.
[17:51] <strueb> In am manner of speaking, roland...
[17:51] <Bynw> Roland_Delacroix in a gaming context yes.... see Dragon 78
[17:51] <KK> Sort of, Roland.  The Deryni powers could be regarded as
psionic.
[17:51] <virtualbabe> Deryni powers are basically psionic in natyure
[17:51] <Roland_Delacroix> right, thats one place ive seen the name
mentioned
[17:52] * jessie tells Roland_Delacroix -- try the Deryni books -- you'll
like them
[17:52] <Roland_Delacroix> the Dragon mag
[17:52] <Bynw> which of course makes this the perfect server for this chat:
chat.psionics.net :-)
[17:52] <strueb> I'd say they are also a state of mind, but I don't wish to
be stoned...
[17:52] <AEves_Spirit> lol
[17:52] <KK> I did an article for Dragon Magazine some years ago.
[17:52] <Unicorn636> Are any of Rhysel and Robert's children Healers?
[17:52] <the_Bee> Start with Deryni Rising or Camber of Culdi.
[17:52] <Kiri`> KK - about Camlin  will he ever marry?
[17:52] <Vaxalon> Some people don't see much difference between Psionics and
Magic
[17:53] <virtualbabe> 'Yes, i feel sorry for poor camlin
[17:53] <KK> Precisely.
[17:53] <jessie> Camlin certainly deserves to marry a VERY wonderful woman
[17:53] <Bynw> 1983 Dragon 78 had the Deryni and the Psionicist class for
AD&D 1st Edition
[17:53] * Kiri` wanders around ith aposter.. "Bride for Camlin!"
[17:53] <Roland_Delacroix> they are similar, cept psionics are much cooler
[17:53] * AEves_Spirit volunteers...
[17:54] <KK> Of course, if you put psi powers into the outward context of
<looking> like magic....  :-)
[17:54] * Kiri` puts Aeve on a time portal and sees her whisked away
[17:54] <Shiral> Will your husband understand though Aeve? <G>
[17:54] <jessie> Does Camlin marry -- and was he developing a "crush" on
Rhysel in the Heirs series
[17:54] <Unicorn636> Camlin and Rhysel are cousins...He couldn't have
married her.
[17:54] <virtualbabe> any technology which is sufficiently advanced will
look like magic
[17:54] <KK> LOL, Jessie.  I can't remember, right off the top of my head.
[17:54] <AEves_Spirit> Would it be classed as bigamy to have two husbands
across several centuries?  <BG>
[17:54] <Bynw> Katherine, Tika found a copy of Legacy of Lehr at the library
and she's reading it right now...
[17:54] <Rebecca> Susan, you mean like Kelson and Araxie?
[17:55] <jessie> they are very distant cousins (camlin & rhysel)
[17:55] <KK> Hmmm, for the answer to that, try the Crosstitch series.
[17:55] <strueb> Bynw, as in Mabanogian?  (sp)
[17:55] <KK> Does Tika like the blue cats?
[17:55] <Shiral> Camlin was interested in her, but I got the picture that
just then, Rhysel had a few other ideas on her mind
[17:55] <Rebecca> they're 1sr cousins once removed
[17:55] <KK> That's far enough away that they could be dispensed.
[17:56] <virtualbabe> I believe that kelson and Araxie are  considered far
enough apart to make their marage OK
[17:56] <Colin> Bye
[17:56] <Bynw> She says its good so far... I only got through the 1st
chapter before she took it away and said she was gonna read it first
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[17:56] <KK> Bye, Colin.
[17:56] <AEves_Spirit> bye col
[17:56] <the_Bee> and they got a dispensation.
[17:56] <Shiral> Robert Ainslie expressed his interest more directly
[17:56] <KK> Yep.
[17:56] <Unicorn636> True, it could be dispensed.  But we know Rhysel
married Robert.  Codex makes it sound like Camlin never married.
[17:56] <Shiral> Early bird gets the Rhysel
[17:56] <Rebecca> yes but Araxie and Kelson are half-first cousins once
removed
[17:56] <Kiri`> yeah.. and that would be terrible..
[17:56] <Rebecca> a little less genetics in the mix
[17:57] <KK> Dunno if Camlin married.  One of the reasons I want to do 948.
[17:57] <the_Bee> Just how many genes would half-first cousins one removed
share?
[17:58] <jessie> rebecca -- aren't they 2nd cousins once removed
[17:58] * Kiri` thinksit would be WONDERFUl to have camlin meet some
wonderful girl and have a great relationship...
[17:58] <Shiral> He doesn't exactly get out to meet many girls, being
surrounded by Gabrilites and Michaelines.  Perhaps his interest in Rhysel
was more hormonal than romantic
[17:58] <Rebecca> jessie, maybe...
[17:58] <Kiri`> good point melissa
[17:58] <Shiral> Or maybe he's terribly shy with girls, but I think he
deserves a happy lovelife anyway!
[17:58] <jessie> which makes it the 4th degree in canon law -- and quite
acceptable
[17:59] <Kiri`> i thnk he's probably self concious abut his scars.
[17:59] <Kiri`> and wound
[17:59] <KK> I think he's shy--but I'll try to find him someone suitable.
[17:59] <Rebecca> actually just 2nd cousins Jessie
[17:59] * jessie thanks KK
[17:59] <Shiral> See that they get out and go dancing .<G>
[17:59] <Wrengl>  6 That would be nice.  He deserves SOME happiness in his
life.
[17:59] <Kiri`> thanks kk!  =)
[17:59] <AEves_Spirit> Kiri - you just sad exactly what I was thinking re.
the scars... how would he explain them?
[17:59] <Unicorn636> Maybe there were other women and girls who received
shelter at Sanctuary...like Oriel's wife and daughter, Karis, who marries
Tieg.
[17:59] <Shiral> By telling the truth?
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[18:00] <KK> He'd also be a bit self-conscious about his scars--but on the
other hand, those are badges of incredible bravery and defiance of what was
supposed to happen to him.
[18:00] <Kiri`> aeva - well if it was another deryni, he could just tell
her.
[18:00] <Shiral> There would be young women at Trevalga, wouldn't there?
[18:00] <