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KK Chat -- 24 June 2018
« on: June 24, 2018, 07:47:48 pm »
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:06:57 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:07:28 PM EDT] <bynw> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:07:33 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:07:38 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:07:40 PM EDT] <bynw> you just missed duck who dropped in before he had to go to work
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:08:47 PM EDT] <KK> Bummer! But at least it's good to know that he's still around.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:10:56 PM EDT] <KK> So, what's everyone been up to?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:11:07 PM EDT] <The_Bee> How was your week, KK?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:11:52 PM EDT] <KK> Busy. Bynw, do you know anything about Comcast's cell phpne servoce?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:12:02 PM EDT] <KK> phone service
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:12:38 PM EDT] <jemler> HI KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:13:22 PM EDT] <bynw> KK, sorry i dont know anything about it
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:13:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:14:35 PM EDT] <KK> Hi, Jemler and DR.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:15:01 PM EDT] <KK> Jemler, how did your procedure go? You're here, so I assume it was ok.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:15:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My laundry "assistant" https://www.instagram.com/p/BkbDouMAaLQ/
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:15:45 PM EDT] <KK> Tee-hee. Very cute.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:16:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Those are washcloths and hand towels around her. She's still tiny.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:16:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Doess she also do ironing?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:16:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Probably not, alas.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:16:27 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I hate to iron, so I'd pay handsomely in cat treats if she did!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:17:18 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That being said, I own very few articles of clothing that require ironing.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:17:26 PM EDT] <KK> Hey, she is a laundry specialist consultant. She doesn't do ironing. That is for staff.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:17:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL, yes
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:18:38 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I have trouble seeing her; the picture's dark.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:18:51 PM EDT] <KK> I also rarely iron. And if something has to be ironed to look decent--i.e., it's a coplicated ironing job--I send it to the laundry.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:09 PM EDT] <jemler> the procedure went fine, but he kept me overnite. then he sent me hope with an antibiotic that i had a severe reaction to.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:29 PM EDT] <KK> She looks young. Do you have more than 1 cat?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:43 PM EDT] Join WidowSon (WidowSon@OWIRCN-2101ce8e.fl.comcast.net) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi WidowSon
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:51 PM EDT] <jemler> hi widowson
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:51 PM EDT] <KK> Jemler, that doesn't sound like fun.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:52 PM EDT] <DesertRose> No, she's at my parents' house.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:55 PM EDT] <WidowSon> HELLO
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:19:59 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I don't even own an iron. I send my laundry out, courtesy of Senior Services.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:20:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I can't have a second pet.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:20:13 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi WiddowSon
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:20:16 PM EDT] <jemler> it's not. i only took 1 pill and stopped.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:20:21 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Hi Bee
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:20:30 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Hi KK and All!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:20:38 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> Wait, wait. Sent you hope with an antibiotic it turns out you're allergic to? Or sent you home with an antibiotic you know you're allergic to?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:20:58 PM EDT] <jemler> i know now. i'd never had it before.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:21:02 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> Or both?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:21:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She's probably about four months old. The Kiddo found her sheltering beside the building at Kiddo's work and brought her back to my parents' house (where the Kiddo lives too) a few weeks ago.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:21:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That's a gnarly way to find out one has an allergy. Been there, done that, not eager to do it again EVER.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:22:38 PM EDT] <jemler> believe me this one was severe. according to my puls-ox, my O2 was 68.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:22:45 PM EDT] <DesertRose> YIKES!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:03 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> Ug.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> YIKESS indeed!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:07 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Glad you're OK jemier!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:17 PM EDT] <WidowSon> jemler
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:18 PM EDT] <jemler> i had to sit up all night just to breathe.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:38 PM EDT] <KK> Definitely put that on the list of "never again."
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:40 PM EDT] <WidowSon> UGH!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:41 PM EDT] <jemler> even now my O2 is 92. it shouldbe 97.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, but 92 is a damn sight better than 68!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:23:59 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> Last time I was asked at hospital what I'm allergic to, I was too addled to consider the obvious. Started listing plants and molds...
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:24:36 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I keep a list in my phone of all my meds, all my medical allergies, and all my doctors, because I don't trust my brain to keep it all together, especially not if I'm really sick or in a lot of pain.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:25:12 PM EDT] <WidowSon> How was everyone's week? Hope all was well!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:25:26 PM EDT] <WidowSon> KK did ya go on any new adventures?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:25:30 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Pretty decent week here, and you?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:25:31 PM EDT] <The_Bee> How is pulse ox measured?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:25:33 PM EDT] <jemler> i'm only allergic to the plants that can kill me. you know falling oak trees, ticked off Ents, etc.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:25:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The little doo-hickey that they put on your fingertip, Bee.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:25:59 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> I had a dumbphone at the time. Guess I _could_ have used the Notes feature. Then I'd have to remember it was there, and how to unlock it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:26:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It measures how well oxygenated your blood is at your extremities, which is a decent indcator of how well your heart and lungs are doing their jobs.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:26:10 PM EDT] <KK> I do the same on my phone, DR.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:26:13 PM EDT] <The_Bee> oh yes. been there, done that
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:26:14 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> lol jemler
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:27:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> *indicator
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:27:28 PM EDT] <jemler> amazon.com about $20.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:28:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> They used to check oxygenation by looking at the color of your finger- or toenails, but that meant that if a patient had nail polish on, they'd have to remove it. The little pulse oximeter makes it a lot easier.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:29:00 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> They just need to build these things in.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:29:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (Blue is not a good color for finger- or toenails to be unless the reason is nail polish.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:30:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Cyanosis = BAD NEWS
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:31:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Blue face is not so healthy either.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:31:14 PM EDT] <WidowSon> do you carry and epilepsy-pen jemler?.....just in case
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:31:15 PM EDT] <jemler> i'm trying to get oxygen at home. my mother could use it too.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:31:44 PM EDT] <WidowSon> stupid spell check. epi pen
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:31:51 PM EDT] <jemler> no. i'm not epileptic, so i never needed one.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:32:11 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> No, epi-pen -> for deadly allergies
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:32:16 PM EDT] <WidowSon> epic pen for allergies
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:32:32 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> Spellcheck strikes again
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:32:41 PM EDT] <WidowSon> BLAST! LOL!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:32:48 PM EDT] <jemler> most of my allergies are itching. not severe enough.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:33:04 PM EDT] <WidowSon> gotcha....thats good
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:33:11 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It might not be a bad idea to ask your primary care doctor (or somebody on Team Jemler: Medical Edition) to prescribe you an Epi-Pen (or Adrenaclick, if your insurance doesn't want to cover the name brand) in case you ever have an allergic reaction that severe again.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:33:31 PM EDT] <The_Bee> You could still have a major allergy attack sssometime.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:33:34 PM EDT] <jemler> i will NEVER take clindamycin again!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:33:37 PM EDT] <WidowSon> if you've had one once you are more at risk!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:33:41 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If ever there was a case for "better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it," it's Epi-Pens.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:33:52 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Agreed!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:34:03 PM EDT] <jemler> ok. where do i get one?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:34:08 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ask your doc to prescribe it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:34:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If your insurance won't cover the name brand Epi-Pen, ask the doc to prescribe Adrenaclick (same thing, just generic).
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:34:40 PM EDT] <jemler> would it have helped with this?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:34:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yes
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:35:10 PM EDT] <jemler> Adrenalick. got it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:35:28 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If you were having that much trouble breathing, you were at least in the early stages of anaphylactic shock, which an Epi-Pen will at least tone down long enough for you to get to a hospital.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:36:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Note: If you need to use the Epi-Pen, still have someone call 911. The Epi-Pen doesn't end the anaphylaxis; it just quiets it down enough for you to continue breathing until you can get to medical care.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:36:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (Or the Adrenaclick.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:36:35 PM EDT] <jemler> i like my spelling!:(
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:36:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:36:47 PM EDT] <jemler> lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:37:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I carry one because I'm allergic to bee/wasp stings.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:37:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I have yet to need it, and I hope I never do need it.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:38:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (Sorry, Bee. Just don't sting me and we're good. ;) )
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:38:17 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I've seen stories of the price of epi-pens skyrocketing.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:38:18 PM EDT] <KK> Thankfully (or maybe not), most of my allergic reactions involve serious intestinal distress rather than breathing difficulties.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:38:21 PM EDT] <bynw> limit your time outside around those nasty creatures
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:38:36 PM EDT] <KK> Icky, but at lest not life-threatening.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:38:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yes. The manufacturer of the brand-name Epi-Pen jacked the price WAY up not long ago, which is why I mentioned Adrenaclick.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:38:50 PM EDT] <WidowSon> sorry to hear that KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:39:05 PM EDT] <IIsi50MHz> Bee thinks the same thing, you know; one sting, and that's a bee's life expectancy. [-:
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:39:06 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Intestinal distress is made of fail and suck, but at least it generally isn't fatal unless it goes on for a long time.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:39:06 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Don't steal my honey and I won't need to sting you.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:39:10 PM EDT] <KK> It's mostly some antibiotics.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:39:11 PM EDT] <WidowSon> I have bad bouts with gastritis......painful!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:39:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Fair enough.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:42:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Antibiotics can be rough on the gut even if you're not allergic to that specific antibiotic.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:44:57 PM EDT] <KK> But, enough of such pleasantries. I now have a Gus on my lap, so how could life be any better? (He's purring, of course.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:45:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Aw, sweet Gus.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:45:30 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hello, Gus!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:45:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Carys was purring at me earlier, but I think she has decided to go nap somewhere that, unlike me, doesn't move.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:46:29 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Thats the best KK! Kitty on your lap!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:46:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It still makes me giggle that his formal name is Augustus.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:47:04 PM EDT] Join Jerusha (Mibbit@OWIRCN-ee6a4747.dsl.bell.ca) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:47:08 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Jerusha!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:47:10 PM EDT] <WidowSon> any adventures last week KK?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:47:14 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:47:18 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:47:19 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Hi everyone!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:47:22 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:48:23 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Sorry to be late - family dinner and puppy playtime
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:48:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Food is important, and so are puppies. :)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:48:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> glad you're here now
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:49:11 PM EDT] <KK> Not exactly adventures. I'm in the midst of upgrading my internet service with Comcast--and the TV portion--and am mulling whether I should switch my home security to them as well, with it being 11-year-newer technology, and also cheaper. (And I'd actually use it, if we oculd set the alarm system on our phones. What we have now is very clunky, so we rarely use it.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:49:12 PM EDT] <WidowSon> low key for me tonight.....just ate some homemade chicken soup
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:49:13 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Cute puppies, and dinner was good
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:49:22 PM EDT] <jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:49:42 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Hi Jemler
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:50:03 PM EDT] <KK> And we need new phones--both of us. We have Samsung S4 and S4mini, and need to go to S8, I think.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:50:10 PM EDT] <WidowSon> we made the switch to Apple TV 2 years ago now.....never go back
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:50:16 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Our home security is "Did you lock the door?"
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:50:28 PM EDT] <KK> So it becomes a matter of working out which chicken and egg comes first, while optimizing cost.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:50:30 PM EDT] <WidowSon> yeah
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:50:36 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Mine too, Jerusha, except that my building has a security guard at the entrance. :)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:04 PM EDT] <WidowSon> technology is great when it works! LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL, yeah, WidowSon
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:11 PM EDT] <KK> We have 3 security alarms: one electronic and two canine.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Canine security alarms are pretty good. :)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:30 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Canine more reliable
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:34 PM EDT] <WidowSon> they hear better
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:45 PM EDT] <KK> True. And they only rarely need upgrades.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:46 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Except when they are asleep
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And also handy for cleaning up kitchen spills.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:51:57 PM EDT] <WidowSon> LOL!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:07 PM EDT] <WidowSon> a new collar ever so often
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:08 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Every time my mom has ever dropped anything while she's cooking, she has said, "I wish I still had a dog."
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:10 PM EDT] <KK> They even, though it's gross, clean up cat barf.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:15 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ew.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:21 PM EDT] <WidowSon> EWWWWWWWWWW
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:23 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Ick
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:24 PM EDT] <WidowSon> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:41 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I need to learn about comcast's cheaper service .Mine's $200+ a month.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:52:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> But Mom won't have a dog unless she has a fenced yard, and they're probably not going to stay in the current house much longer, so no point in fencing that yard, and they also already have three cats (since the advent of the "laundry assistant"), so that's probably enough critters.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:53:01 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Let's just move on....
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:53:25 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Laundry assistant?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:53:30 PM EDT] <DesertRose> https://www.instagram.com/p/BkbDouMAaLQ/
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:53:34 PM EDT] <KK> Definitely check it out, especially if you've had it for a while. I discovered half a dozen things that need to be upgraded (faster, cheaper), and at no cost.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:54:15 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Her name is Layla, and she's basically (in appearance) Mini-Me to Merlin the Manx Menace, except she has a tail and is about 1/8 his size.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:54:18 PM EDT] <Jerusha> There's nothing like a cat-assistant
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:54:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She was having a fantastic time "helping" me fold the blue Handi-wipes I use to clean things like the bathroom mirror.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:20 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And also everything else I was folding, but she was particularly fond of or aggravated by the Handi-wipes.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:27 PM EDT] Join TheDeryni (~TheDeryni@Flirt.Storyteller.Wiseass) has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:28 PM EDT] Mode derynibot gives channel operator privileges to TheDeryni.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi TheDeryni!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:39 PM EDT] * DesertRose tackle-hugs TheDeryni.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:44 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Hi!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:50 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Hi TD
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:55:57 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Hi TD
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:03 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, TD!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:08 PM EDT] <WidowSon> welcome TD
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:15 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Your deer isn't going to make it this week, TheDeryni. She accepted an invitation she thought was yesterday, only to find out late last week that it was this evening.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (Evie)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:19 PM EDT] <KK> (Anyone know where Evie is tonight?)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:23 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL, KK!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:24 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Hello, everyone.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:56:56 PM EDT] <bynw> hey there TheDeryni
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:01 PM EDT] <DesertRose> KK, see what I just posted above about TD's "deer." (In-joke between him and Evie.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:05 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Ah, I wondered where Evie was
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:08 PM EDT] <bynw> she had some kind of prior engagement
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:34 PM EDT] <KK> It happens.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:34 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Oh deer, I miss Evie.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:44 PM EDT] <WidowSon> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:57:45 PM EDT] <Jerusha> :)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:58:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> She should be here next week, though.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:58:05 PM EDT] <The_Bee> O Bambi!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:58:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Lord willin' an' the crik don't rise.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:58:20 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Heh
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:58:28 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Is next week early chat?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:58:35 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Unless KK says otherwise, yes, Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:58:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> So KK, early chat next week? ;)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [7:59:56 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, and DerynifanK popped in a while back to ask that I send her regards, but she and her family are out celebrating the birthday of her son-in-law.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:00:20 PM EDT] Nick TheDeryni is now known as TD-brb.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:00:28 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Birthdays are good
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:00:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yup
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:00:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Except that the more of them you have, the older you get!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:00:48 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Yup
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:03 PM EDT] <The_Bee> beats the aalternative
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:06 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Though this is not a bad thing
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:18 PM EDT] <KK> Ah, yes, I'd forgotten that June 31 is actually July 1. :-) So early chat it is. (But I won't be here the followig week.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> As my mom says, "It's bad to get old, but it beats the alternative," or, in the words of a friend with a penchant for pithier and more graphic language than Mom, "You've got two choices: aging or decomposing."
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:31 PM EDT] <The_Bee> :(
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:39 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Ick
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Michaeline retreat the second weekend of July, KK?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:01:53 PM EDT] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:02:06 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay. I knew it was coming up, but I wasn't sure exactly when.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:02:21 PM EDT] <jemler> it bothers me. the thought of michaelines retreating.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:02:30 PM EDT] <KK> It's usua;;y the weekend after July 4th.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:02:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Not a battlefield retreat.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:02:40 PM EDT] <DesertRose> A contemplative/educational retreat. :P
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:02:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, good to know, KK.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:02:50 PM EDT] <jemler> it's just the word.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:03:08 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And even on the battlefield, retreat and defeat are not synonymous. :)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:03:15 PM EDT] <KK> True.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:03:30 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Retreat to fight another day is not a bad thing
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:03:39 PM EDT] <KK> Something about running away and living to fight another day.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:03:40 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Were the Michaelines in the novels inspired by the real-life Michaelines, KK?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:03:51 PM EDT] <jemler> retreat is more like regroup and run like hell.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:03:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Sometimes it's strategic; you retreat certain troops to entice the opposing troops into getting their backsides kicked by your troops that the opponent didn't know were there. :D
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:04:02 PM EDT] <Jerusha> That can work too
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:04:11 PM EDT] <KK> No, vice-versa. And the book Michaelines were inspired by the Templars and the Jesuits.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:04:24 PM EDT] <The_Bee> ah, ok
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:05:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> There was a question a while back on the forum about some real-world order named for the Archangel Michael. Hang on a sec and I'll see if I can find the thread.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:05:21 PM EDT] Nick TD-brb is now known as TheDeryni.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:05:37 PM EDT] <The_Bee> WB TD
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:05:39 PM EDT] <jemler> hi td. didn't see you come in.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:06:01 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> How you doing Jemler?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:06:18 PM EDT] <jemler> ot too bad. you?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:06:46 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Pretty good. Day off tomorrow, yay!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:06:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, oops, not for the Archangel, for Michael of Cesna, Minister-General of the Franciscans in the 14th C. http://www.rhemuthcastle.com/index.php/topic,2170.0.html
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:07:05 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Days off are good
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:07:20 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Yep. I get one a week.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:07:28 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Ouch
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:07:38 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yikes. That's a busy work schedule!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:07:41 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Only one?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:08:16 PM EDT] <KK> Yeash, there is another Order of St. Michael, but not named for the archangel, though we are.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:08:18 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> I like it. Beats bartending.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:08:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> :D
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:08:42 PM EDT] <Jerusha> One for you, one for me....
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:08:46 PM EDT] <DesertRose> What are you doing for a living, TheDeryni? Last I knew (and of course, silly me, I haven't asked until now), you were still tending bar.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:09:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That city name (Cesna) makes me think of small airplanes (Cessna).
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:09:37 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> I manage a liquor store. So, similar. But less stress, more money. :)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:09:46 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Good stuff
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:09:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hey, less stress and a better paycheck are always useful. :D
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:10:19 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> And it's 52 feet from where I live.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:10:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My parents had a Cessna (I think, or a Piper) before I was born.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:10:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, that's REALLY convenient!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:07 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Yeppers
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If I'd been the boy they expected me to be, I'd have been named for my father's flight instructor.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:25 PM EDT] <KK> Definitely very handy.
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[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Goatmistress
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:38 PM EDT] <Goatmistress> hi
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:41 PM EDT] <Jerusha> And that name would be?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Scott
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:45 PM EDT] <KK> Ah, here's goatmistress.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:46 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Hi Goatmistress
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:11:51 PM EDT] <Goatmistress> hi
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:12:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'd have been William Scott if I'd been a boy, and thank all the lucky stars that I wasn't because there are by-goodness ENOUGH Williams in my family!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:12:16 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Nice name (with a wink to KK)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:12:19 PM EDT] <The_Bee> hi Goatmistress
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:12:38 PM EDT] <KK> I'd have been Robin Fredrick.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:13:04 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Hi GoatMistress
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:13:12 PM EDT] <Goatmistress> hi
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:13:53 PM EDT] <KK> Lots of Williams in Scott's family, but his mom wanted something different. Scott Roderick. And his brother is Richard Bruce.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:14:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, the thing with the name William is that my father was William, my maternal grandfather was William, my mom's younger brother is technically William (although he's always gone by his middle name), my cousin (father's sister's son) is William, and my stepdad is William.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:14:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> TOO MANY!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:14:16 PM EDT] <jemler> not robert?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:14:43 PM EDT] <Jerusha> That's a lot of Williams
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:14:53 PM EDT] <KK> That would have been too expected, Jemler.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:14:59 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (And yes, my mother married two men with the same first name, but she's a Baby Boomer and it was a super common boys' name in that generation.)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:15:29 PM EDT] <bynw> hi Goatmistress
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[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:15:49 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Did we lose Bee?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:16:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The funny thing with my uncle (Mom's brother) is that he (along with basically all my family members of that generation) worked for the Department of the Navy, and a few years before my uncle retired, the Dept of the Navy changed the way they did people's email addresses to firstname.surname (at) navy (dot) mil.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:16:19 PM EDT] <jemler> my fathers brother john and his son john. my fathers brother-in-law john, and his son john, and me, john.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:16:23 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Richard Bruce? very hereditary
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:16:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Which led to a lot of my uncle's coworkers asking "Who the heck is William [Surname]?"
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:16:52 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Because they'd always known him as [Nickname for his middle name].
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[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:17:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Rehi Bee
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:17:07 PM EDT] <Jerusha> WB Bee
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:17:32 PM EDT] <The_Bee> thanks. I don't know what I clicked on.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:19:22 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And his old email address had reflected his name as [Middle Name] [Surname].
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:19:24 PM EDT] <jemler> i was in the hospital and my fathers brother john was visiting. a nurse came into the room and said "John?" my uncle and i, at the same time said "Which one?". she said "John Emler?", and my uncle and i,again at the same time said "Which one?"
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:19:29 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Heh, my 1st three GFs were named Lisa. I kinda felt bad for my 4th GF and 5th and so on....
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:19:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:19:44 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I hope you two have different middle names, jemler!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:01 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My uncle and my grandfather at least had different middle names, even though they had the same first name and surname.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:06 PM EDT] <jemler> allan for him, michael for me.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:19 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And my grandfather went by Bill, whereas my uncle always went by some variant of his middle name.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:30 PM EDT] <WidowSon> how bout Alton for a middle name?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:37 PM EDT] <WidowSon> its mine
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:41 PM EDT] <jemler> three of them are now dead.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My youngest brother's middle name is Allan (I think it's spelled that way; there are a couple of possibilities).
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:48 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I'm the only Beverly in my family.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:20:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm the only living Nora.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I was named for my father's paternal grandmother's sister, but she had died a few years before I was born.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:21 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> You can't be, I talked to a Nora yesterday.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> In my family.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:34 PM EDT] * DesertRose smacks TheDeryni with a goldfish.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:34 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Unless that was you.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:42 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:57 PM EDT] <jemler> td, welcome to the club! :)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:21:59 PM EDT] <bynw> dawson (ambush) went be a number of names growing up ... his middle name was william and he went by both bill for a while and then liam and finally started using his first name
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:22:19 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Oh, she's slapped me many times.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:22:22 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Liam is cool!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:22:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I can't confirm this, but I suspect my father was waiting to sire a daughter to use the name Nora.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:22:36 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I have a friend whose son is William Michael and goes by Liam.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:23:03 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And the Kiddo has considered naming a son William and having him go by Liam, if she has kids.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:23:06 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> William = Liam.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:23:27 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Do they bestow new names for knighthoods? KK?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:23:31 PM EDT] <jemler> DR, he might have gotten the name because of snoring.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:24:09 PM EDT] * DesertRose slaps jemler with one of the REALLY BIG catfish that feed near the base of the Glen Canyon Dam.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:24:13 PM EDT] <WidowSon> or they just knight you with current name? I know the royal types take on new names
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:24:43 PM EDT] <jemler> elton john is still elton john.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:24:58 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Beeeehave DR! LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:06 PM EDT] <bynw> its been 5 years, i miss that red-headed kiddo
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:08 PM EDT] <Jerusha> I read that as "carp diem"
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:11 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I know when you're confirmed in the Catholic Church (and possibly also Orthodox?), you choose a confirmation name to add to whatever names you already had.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:20 PM EDT] <WidowSon> OH LORDY
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:25 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Carp diem
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:26 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Don't British royals have one name fof public and another for family?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:27 PM EDT] <WidowSon> LOL
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:29 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> I think DR can probably noodle a catfish in her sleep. ( I think that's what it's called)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:35 PM EDT] <DesertRose> A number of them do, Bee.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:25:42 PM EDT] <WidowSon> thats what I was getting at Bee
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:26:02 PM EDT] <WidowSon> The Windsers are actually German!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:26:16 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Hamburg
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:26:19 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Windsor that is
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:26:30 PM EDT] <WidowSon> ....er
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:26:34 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The current Queen's father was George VI for public consumption, but "Bertie" (from Albert) to the family, and also the Duke of Windsor would have been Edward VIII (I think) but was David to the family.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:26:55 PM EDT] <KK> Never heard of changing names with a knighthood.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:27:08 PM EDT] <Jerusha> You can choose a different name at your coronation
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:27:10 PM EDT] <WidowSon> just wondering...
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:27:35 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And supposedly HRM was "Lilibet" when she was a child, but I doubt anyone other than possibly the Duke of Edinburgh dares to call her that now!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:27:47 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Which I think would feel weird
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:03 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Well gotta go do laundry ya'll! Everyone have a great week!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:13 PM EDT] <bynw> cya WidowSon
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> OKay, have a good week, WidowSon, and early chat next week, two hours earlier than usual!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:22 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Enjoy, WidowSon
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:29 PM EDT] <jemler> nite widowson
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:37 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Roger that DR
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:37 PM EDT] <KK> It's common for British royals to change to a regnal name when they become king, sort of like the Pope takes a new name as Pope.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:42 PM EDT] <The_Bee> bye Widowson. glad you came
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:28:59 PM EDT] <jemler> did anyone tell duck?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:29:02 PM EDT] <WidowSon> Bye all....
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[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:29:37 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Man, I missed this chat room. I'm glad I lock up the store at 6:00 now. (Eastern time)
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:29:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I doubt duck will make it to early chat, because he said it was before sunrise in Australia when he came in earlier.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:30:08 PM EDT] <bynw> he's on the wrong side of the world to make early chat
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:30:11 PM EDT] <KK> I've heard it said that Charles is likely to become George VII when/if he comes to the throne, since Charles has some negative associations.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:30:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> He'd have to wake up at zero-dark-thirty, and I think that's asking a bit much.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:30:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, yeah, Charles I lost his head and Charles II was pretty well known for being a bit debauched. :D
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:30:35 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Oh yes, it's winter in Oz
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:31:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And while he may well be descended from Charlemagne (although an awful lot of people of European descent are), that's a bit far into the past for a good association. :D
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:31:37 PM EDT] <Jerusha> So if you officially become King George, would family call you Charles or George?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:31:55 PM EDT] <bynw> charles has his own negative associations not just those with previous kings with that name
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:32:14 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Cheated on Dianna?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:32:16 PM EDT] <The_Bee> Bonnie Prince Charlie.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:32:41 PM EDT] <KK> They'd probably still call him Charles in private.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:33:10 PM EDT] <KK> She cheated on him, too, TheDeryni.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:33:56 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I kind of thought Scotland was looking forward to a new King Charles.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:34:26 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, and the thing is, fifty or a hundred years ago, the fact that they got their heir and spare and then sought amusement elsewhere wouldn't have even been public knowledge much less a scandal unless one of them was colossally indiscreet.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:35:38 PM EDT] <KK> Probably true.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:36:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My mom said that came as a revelation to her, upon reading up on primogeniture and the ways of the nobility up until the second half of the 20th C., finding out that discreet infidelity was not only overlooked but mostly encouraged, as long as you had a legitimate heir or three for the title/lands.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:36:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Think about Downton Abbey; it was scandalous that the Earl of Grantham chose to sleep in his wife's bed even after their daughters were grown!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:37:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> He went through the motions of changing for bed and getting ready for the day in his own suite, but slept in the countess' suite.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:37:42 PM EDT] <KK> I read somewhere that Charles told Diana early on that he wasn't going to be the first Prince of Wales NOT to have a mistress.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:38:03 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL, it wouldn't surprise me if he had. It seems HRH can be pretty blunt when he wants to be!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:38:30 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> True, he did.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:38:44 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Um she did
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:39:22 PM EDT] * bynw wonders if laurna is going to post something for washburn or if i'm gonna have to do it
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:39:57 PM EDT] <DesertRose> There's a movie that won a Best Costume Design Oscar in the 1990's called "Restoration," in which Sam Neill plays Charles II and Robert Downey Jr plays the main character, a social-climbing doctor at the court. It's really interesting.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:40:15 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Maybe 1996? Around that time.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:40:18 PM EDT] <The_Bee> I'm wonderig where Shiral is.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:40:25 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Oh, I like Sam Neill
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:40:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> At the opera, I'd bet.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:40:43 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Give her a chance, Bynw
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:40:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Shiral and her mom (I think) bought tickets to Wagner's Ring Cycle, and she said something on Facebook about Gotterdammerung tonight.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:40:55 PM EDT] <jemler> well, folks. i'm gonna take off. they want me for dialysis tomorrow.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, g'night, jemler! See you next week?
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:15 PM EDT] <jemler> i'll be there.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:17 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Nighters,Jemler
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:21 PM EDT] <jemler> early.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:25 PM EDT] <The_Bee> nighters, Jemler. hopeeall goes well
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, g'night and be well, jemler!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:28 PM EDT] <KK> Nighters, Jemler.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:41:38 PM EDT] <jemler> nite all
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[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:42:03 PM EDT] <bynw> Jerusha, oh i will
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:42:17 PM EDT] <Jerusha> I should be going too. That dratted laundry monster again
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:42:30 PM EDT] <Jerusha> You know she will come up with something good, Bynw
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:42:41 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I may have misspelled the German word for "Twilight of the Gods" up there. I studied Latin, French, and Spanish, not German, LOL.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:42:52 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, don't let the laundry monster defeat you, Jerusha!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:42:55 PM EDT] <Jerusha> And we may catch you off-guard :D
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:06 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> I thought I was the only one with a laundry monster. Lol
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> No, everyone has a laundry monster.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:18 PM EDT] <bynw> everyone has one
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:27 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And everyone who doesn't have a dishwasher (and some who do, probably) has a dish monster.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:38 PM EDT] <Jerusha> They live in the closet, and wait to pounce when you least expect it
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:39 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Oh. Guess not very special monster then.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:41 PM EDT] <bynw> i conquered mine earlier
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:43:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Nope, pretty standard.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:00 PM EDT] <Jerusha> Nighters, Everyone!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I did mine Wednesday, hence the photo of Layla "assisting."
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:09 PM EDT] Quit Jerusha (Mibbit@OWIRCN-ee6a4747.dsl.bell.ca) has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:11 PM EDT] <The_Bee> nighters, Jerusha
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:15 PM EDT] <KK> I conquered one today, but another load is still lurking.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:21 PM EDT] <The_Bee> oops missed
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:28 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, laundry and dishes are never REALLY done.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:46 PM EDT] <bynw> they are if you stop eating and wearing clothes
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:49 PM EDT] <KK> In anycase, I think I'd better shove off. See you early next week, all.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:44:59 PM EDT] <bynw> have a good night KK
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:45:06 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Okay, thanks for coming to see us, KK! Have a good week, and we'll see you at 5 next Sunday!
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:45:11 PM EDT] <The_Bee> bye KK. thanks for coming. have a good week
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:45:16 PM EDT] * KK steps pnto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:45:26 PM EDT] <TheDeryni> Bye KK. Nice chatting with you again.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:45:28 PM EDT] <KK> Nite, all.
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:46:03 PM EDT] * TheDeryni waves
[Sunday, June 24, 2018] [8:46:04 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)).
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