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KK Chat -- 17 September 2017
« on: September 17, 2017, 07:02:28 pm »
Sep 17 19:26:24 *   KK has joined
Sep 17 19:26:27 <JudyWard>   No, routes are limited in FL
Sep 17 19:26:27 <DesertRose>   hi KK!
Sep 17 19:26:33 *   Derynifank ( has joined
Sep 17 19:26:38 <JudyWard>   Hi, KK
Sep 17 19:26:44 <Laurna>   Hello KK
Sep 17 19:26:46 <Jemler>   hi kk, df
Sep 17 19:26:49 <KK>   Hello, all.
Sep 17 19:27:39 <Evie>   Hi KK
Sep 17 19:27:48 <Jemler>   bw vewy, vewy quiet. we'we hunting wabbits.
Sep 17 19:27:50 <The_Bee>   hi KK
Sep 17 19:27:53 <bynw>   hi kk
Sep 17 19:28:01 <KK>   Everyone in hurricane country back home and hopefully back to normal?
Sep 17 19:28:01 <DesertRose>   But my home is basically fine, Carys and I are basically fine, and I'm trying to recover from the epic sleep deprivation!  :D
Sep 17 19:28:06 <Laurna>   LOL Opps  lol
Sep 17 19:28:26 <Laurna>   To Jemler  notDR
Sep 17 19:28:44 <JudyWard>   That's the important thing, you are fine otherwise.
Sep 17 19:29:07 <The_Bee>   We may get some rain from Jose.
Sep 17 19:29:09 <Jemler>   how are you tonight. kk?
Sep 17 19:29:19 <DesertRose>   Yeah, I saw that, Bee.  You and Julianne.
Sep 17 19:29:20 <KK>   Good here.
Sep 17 19:29:39 <Jemler>   bit of a cold here. sniffles.
Sep 17 19:29:52 <JudyWard>   Hopefully Jose will stay out at sea mostly
Sep 17 19:29:55 <KK>   This is being quite a hurricane season, isn't it?
Sep 17 19:30:03 <DesertRose>   Jose needs to pick a [expletive deleted] direction, though.  All the loop-de-loos are getting a bit old.
Sep 17 19:30:22 *   The_Bee sends Jemler a bowl of hot chicken soup.
Sep 17 19:30:44 <Jemler>   thanks bee.
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Sep 17 19:30:54 <DesertRose>   Yeah, and Lee is fizzling out in the middle of the Atlantic, but Maria is about to beat the crap out of the Leeward Islands (who haven't even caught their breath from Irma!!!) and may be heading this way next, which, can we NOT?!
Sep 17 19:31:02 <KK>   Jemler, you under the weather?
Sep 17 19:31:03 *   DesertRose makes a hot toddy for Jemler.
Sep 17 19:31:24 <Jemler>   ever since i got the flu shot thursday.
Sep 17 19:31:25 <JudyWard>   Be glad when this season is over.
Sep 17 19:31:31 <Laurna>   Oh dear  I had not been looking. Is there now a Maria?
Sep 17 19:31:35 <DesertRose>   Right, JudyWard?
Sep 17 19:31:48 <The_Bee>   not cause and effect, I hope, Jemler
Sep 17 19:31:49 <Laurna>   Sorry to hear that Jemler
Sep 17 19:31:57 <DesertRose>   I've had flu shots make me feel a little meh/achy/ill the day after, but three days after?  Ouch and yikes.
Sep 17 19:32:09 <The_Bee>   I missed Lee
Sep 17 19:32:09 <DesertRose>   Yes, Laurna, there is a Maria, Category 1 last I knew.
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Sep 17 19:32:26 <KK>   I must be atomic.  I've never had a reaction to a flu shot, and I get them every year.
Sep 17 19:32:27 <Laurna>   Back to watching the weather channel again.
Sep 17 19:32:36 <DesertRose>   Lee didn't do much.  I'm not sure Lee ever even made it to hurricane strength and may be a tropical remnant low by the next update.
Sep 17 19:32:41 <Jemler>   it really hit fri evening.
Sep 17 19:33:08 <JudyWard>   Probably coincidental, DF
Sep 17 19:33:21 <Evie>   I haven't had any reaction besides very mild arm achiness from the flu shot I got two or three days ago,  but I had one a few years back that caused nerve inflammation for months, which in turn led to a frozen shoulder
Sep 17 19:33:34 <JudyWard>   I haven't reacted to them, either. Have to get them due to asthma
Sep 17 19:33:37 <Laurna>   I heard the Island of Barbuda is now unpopulated. everyone moved to Antigua.  I was there once, it is a beatiful island
Sep 17 19:33:41 <DesertRose>   The first time I got a flu shot, I felt mildly crappy for a day or so afterwards; every flu shot since, I've felt a little achy/sluggish the following day and then been fine.  Frankly, either reaction beats having the flu.
Sep 17 19:33:42 <Evie>   But that was probably because that flu shot was given to me in the wrong part of my arm
Sep 17 19:33:50 <DesertRose>   Barbuda took one HELL of a hit from Irma.
Sep 17 19:34:04 <JudyWard>   Where did they put it?
Sep 17 19:34:09 <Evie>   Which I didn't know until several weeks afterwards when the doctor investigating why the pain never went away and was getting worse figured out what had happened
Sep 17 19:34:13 <DesertRose>   Something in excess of 50% of the population of Barbuda apparently didn't survive.
Sep 17 19:34:15 *   DF64 (DF64@FD3571.B3FC33.D8FE2A.741D2D) has joined
Sep 17 19:34:16 <JudyWard>   Yes, Barbuda was very bad
Sep 17 19:34:26 <DesertRose>   Hi DF64
Sep 17 19:34:36 <Jemler>   toddy. goo idea. a little apple brandy.
Sep 17 19:34:37 <The_Bee>   The worst ache I had came from a pneumonia shot. ached for several days
Sep 17 19:34:38 <Laurna>   Hello DF64
Sep 17 19:34:39 <DF64>   hi all
Sep 17 19:34:42 <Jemler>   hi df64
Sep 17 19:34:46 <The_Bee>   hi df64
Sep 17 19:35:09 <Evie>   Too low on the arm, Judy.  It's supposed to be near the top of the arm, near the shoulder, but I was wearing a tight sleeved shoulder that day with a high neck, and the sleeve didn't roll all the way up, so the nurse just gave me the shot as high as the sleeve would go, which was a couple of inches low
Sep 17 19:35:18 <DesertRose>   My stepdad had a very bad reaction to a pneumonia shot.  The good news is, it was an inoculation that does not have to be repeated.  The bad news is, he was sick as a dog for a while afterwards.
Sep 17 19:35:32 <Evie>   Which ended up inflaming a nerve that runs nearby, along the back of that location
Sep 17 19:35:40 <Jemler>   i got mine at dialysis.
Sep 17 19:35:43 <KK>   Barbuda really got wallopped.  I've been to Antigua, but Barbuda was already very poor.
Sep 17 19:36:02 <JudyWard>   They make you have a pneumonia shot every 5 yrs now if you are susceptible
Sep 17 19:36:10 <DesertRose>   I haven't gotten this year's flu shot yet, because my insurance won't cover it until 12 months have passed since the last one, and I got my 2016 flu shot in early October.
Sep 17 19:36:14 <JudyWard>   Ouch!
Sep 17 19:36:24 <JudyWard>   I still need mine, too.
Sep 17 19:36:39 <The_Bee>   CVS Pharmacy here gives free flu shots.
Sep 17 19:36:54 <JudyWard>   Yes, we have several pharmacies that give them
Sep 17 19:37:04 <KK>   Only for Medicare, I think, Bee.
Sep 17 19:37:05 <Jemler>   i already got both pneumonia shots and the shingles vaccine.
Sep 17 19:37:07 <Laurna>   I have lovely hand painted  fabrics from an elderly lady on the island of Barbuda. I got them out and looked at them this week.  I'm thinking of framming them.
Sep 17 19:37:19 <The_Bee>   no, for everyone AFAIK
Sep 17 19:37:23 <JudyWard>   That would be pretty
Sep 17 19:37:39 <DesertRose>   But the last time I had the flu, I was 19 (which would have been probably 1995).  I don't really remember much of it, but I remember my mom coming into my bedroom and helping me get dressed and half-carrying me out to the car (which is a neat trick, since even when I was 19 and MUCH thinner than I am now, I'm still bigger than she is), and then I remember her waking me back up and half-carrying me into the doctor's
Sep 17 19:37:39 <DesertRose>   office.
Sep 17 19:37:43 <DesertRose>   I get SICK from the flu.
Sep 17 19:38:01 <DF64>   check your med insurance for pharmacies that are in network for flu shots
Sep 17 19:38:04 <Jemler>   <groan>
Sep 17 19:38:08 <DesertRose>   The last time I had it before 1995 would have been about 1981, when I was five, and I don't remember jack squat from that.
Sep 17 19:38:34 <JudyWard>   I've had it a couple of times & it was awful.
Sep 17 19:39:06 <DesertRose>   I can get a flu shot from my pharmacy, but my insurance (which is a Medicare advantage plan; I'm entitled to Medicare as a disabled person) won't cover it until it's been 12 months since the last one, and I got my 2016 flu shot in early October.
Sep 17 19:39:14 <DesertRose>   So I have to wait a few weeks.
Sep 17 19:39:17 <JudyWard>   My dr i'm going to Tues was BORN in 1981
Sep 17 19:39:22 <DesertRose>   But I absolutely WILL get my flu shot.
Sep 17 19:39:34 <JudyWard>   Me, too
Sep 17 19:39:41 <The_Bee>   ditto
Sep 17 19:39:51 <DesertRose>   I DO NOT EVEN want to get the flu, as sick as it makes me, because [expletive deleted] THAT!!!
Sep 17 19:40:02 <Laurna>   I have to get it for work.  but I think I will wait  a few weeks longer
Sep 17 19:40:05 <DF64>   I always get mine
Sep 17 19:40:24 <DesertRose>   Yeah, I think my new primary care doctor is younger than I am, which my mother hastened to assure me is only going to get more pronounced from here on out.  :P
Sep 17 19:40:38 <JudyWard>   true that
Sep 17 19:40:49 <KK>   I know we had to pay here until we went on Medcare.  But no more worries in that regard.
Sep 17 19:40:54 <DF64>   hopefully their name wont be doogie howser
Sep 17 19:40:58 <DesertRose>   I will be the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything in January.  :)
Sep 17 19:41:09 <The_Bee>   I remember having the flu, and being aware of almost the exact moment when my fever broke.
Sep 17 19:41:17 <JudyWard>   LOL, DR
Sep 17 19:41:24 <DesertRose>   I don't think New Primary Care Doctor is MUCH younger than I am, but I think I've probably got a good 5-10 years on him anyway.
Sep 17 19:41:25 <Derynifank>   You know you'received old when your  doctor looks about 12
Sep 17 19:41:49 <Laurna>   lol
Sep 17 19:42:03 <JudyWard>   Most of them do nowadays
Sep 17 19:42:05 <DesertRose>   Oh, I know, Derynifank.  My previous primary care practice had a physician assistant who was a lovely provider, very thorough, very kind, clearly competent.  But he looked like he was thirteen, tops.
Sep 17 19:42:27 <JudyWard>   My prev PCP was 1 day younger than me
Sep 17 19:42:31 <DesertRose>   He had grown a full beard last I saw him, I think to ameliorate the "looking thirteen, max," problem.
Sep 17 19:42:39 <Jemler>   i saw a story about a doctor. i'll type it up for next time.
Sep 17 19:43:20 <KK>   Yeah, my old primary care doc was about my age and has retired; new one is definitely younger.  And most of my specialists are younger, except for the eye surgeon who did my muscle surgery.  He's got to be in his 80's by now.  Best there is, though.
Sep 17 19:43:29 <The_Bee>   My PCP can't grow a beard.  wrong gender
Sep 17 19:43:46 <DesertRose>   Even with the full beard he looks young, but clean shaven, the only way you knew he'd passed puberty was that his speaking voice was too low for a prepubescent boy.  :P
Sep 17 19:43:52 <The_Bee>   KK, any writing yet?
Sep 17 19:44:07 <KK>   Alas, no, Bee.
Sep 17 19:44:21 <DesertRose>   That, and the clear fact that the PA knew what he was doing as a medical care provider.
Sep 17 19:44:46 <KK>   A good PA is worth their weight....
Sep 17 19:44:52 <JudyWard>   Yes, they are
Sep 17 19:44:56 <Laurna>   KK did you enjoy Dragoncon.  Give good advice to some new writers there?
Sep 17 19:45:01 <JudyWard>   Had a great one in Red Oak
Sep 17 19:45:47 <JudyWard>   Would like to go to one sometime before I get old(er) and die
Sep 17 19:46:02 <JudyWard>   Dragoncon that is
Sep 17 19:46:28 <DesertRose>   He was wonderful (the PA who looked thirteen).  What went wrong with the practice, mainly, was that I was informed over the phone that my actual primary care doctor was no longer accepting patients who had Medicaid in any form (which is my secondary insurance), not even established patients.
Sep 17 19:46:37 <Laurna>   I saw some crazy costply outfits.
Sep 17 19:46:48 <JudyWard>   Lou is making dinner noises, so I'll have to go soon.
Sep 17 19:46:49 <KK>   I hope so, Laurna.  I did 4 15-min-meets.  One had a completed manuscript, and I was able to point her in the direction of a possibe publishing venue.
Sep 17 19:47:03 <Laurna>   Nice KK
Sep 17 19:47:13 <DesertRose>   And since she (former primary care doctor) was the only internal medicine specialist in that practice, and my medical condition is sufficiently wonky that I really need an internal medicine doc to supervise it all, I decided I'd have to find a new practice.
Sep 17 19:47:30 <Laurna>   I bet she was thrilled.
Sep 17 19:48:00 <DF64>   having to change doctors is never ful
Sep 17 19:48:04 <DesertRose>   I'd also had the same argument TWICE about a certain aspect of my medical care with the nurse practitioner who practiced under the supervision of said MD, but that's a long story.
Sep 17 19:48:06 <JudyWard>   Had to. She shouldn't have quit taking MC
Sep 17 19:48:16 <KK>   Unfortunate.  One would hope that a given doc could grandfather patients with whom they already have a good working relationship.  Now you have to start over at square one.
Sep 17 19:48:30 <DesertRose>   So I found New Primary Care doctor, whom I saw on Wednesday afternoon to establish myself as his patient, and I really like him.
Sep 17 19:48:41 <DF64>   yea
Sep 17 19:48:44 <JudyWard>   That's good.
Sep 17 19:48:52 <KK>   Good luck.  Hope he works out.
Sep 17 19:48:56 <Evie>   Oh, good!
Sep 17 19:49:23 <DesertRose>   After the appointment on Wednesday, I called Old Primary Care Practice to cancel an appointment I had later this month with the nurse practitioner and to inform them that I would no longer be a patient at their practice, to be informed that the "no Medicaid" thing was only for NEW patients, not established ones.
Sep 17 19:49:24 <The_Bee>   I've been passed from one PCP to another several times, never by my choice.
Sep 17 19:49:55 <DesertRose>   But at that point, I was like, A: "That ship done sailed," and B: I didn't really want to see the nurse practitioner any more because of the aforementioned "same argument twice" thing.
Sep 17 19:50:02 <Derynifank>   Yay for you. Negotiating  health care these days is scary
Sep 17 19:50:13 <DesertRose>   It's basically my job at this point, Derynifank.
Sep 17 19:50:18 <KK>   DR, that's what I would have expected.  SO, are you going to change docs, or go with the new one?
Sep 17 19:50:39 <Jemler>   i decided to get that story. Here it is: A woman went to see a new doctor. In his office, she noticed a diploma on the wall. She remembered having a hich school crush on a handsome, dark-haired boy with the same name. However, the man was balding, gray-haired and just average looking. She thought he was much to old to have been her classmate. Nrvertheless, she asked him if he had
Sep 17 19:50:39 <Jemler>   attended her high school, and when he said yes, she asked "When did you graduate?"
Sep 17 19:50:39 <Jemler>   He answered "In 1971. But why do you ask?" The woman exclaimed "You were in my class." He looked at her closely, then asked "What did you teach?"
Sep 17 19:51:04 <Evie>   LOL!
Sep 17 19:51:04 <DesertRose>   Between being disabled, having had my digestive tract go haywire for the last nine months and counting, having had my migraines go off the rails for the last three, almost four, months and counting, and so forth, it seems like all I do is manage my medical care.
Sep 17 19:51:13 <Derynifank>   I'very had three in the last few years. They keep retiring
Sep 17 19:51:14 <JudyWard>   Good one!
Sep 17 19:51:23 <DesertRose>   Going with the new one, KK.
Sep 17 19:51:35 <DesertRose>   LOL, Jemler
Sep 17 19:51:44 <JudyWard>   You've had a rough year.
Sep 17 19:52:09 <KK>   Given the history with the PA, that's probably wise.  Also, the new doc may have new insights, with a fresh pair of eyes a d brain.
Sep 17 19:52:23 <Laurna>   That well be better DR, so I am hoping.
Sep 17 19:52:35 <DesertRose>   Part of the reason I'm going with the new one is that I had to change the designation of primary care doctors with my insurance company before I could even see New Primary Care Doctor, and I had to do that Wednesday morning.
Sep 17 19:52:41 <DesertRose>   Around 9 a.m.
Sep 17 19:52:54 <DesertRose>   When I had just gotten home from the hurricane evacuation around 5 a.m. Wednesday.
Sep 17 19:53:01 <JudyWard>   All the paper work is exhausting.
Sep 17 19:53:13 <DesertRose>   So yeah, pardon the language, but no give-a-damn left re: Old Primary Care Practice.
Sep 17 19:53:34 <Laurna>   I say was anything in Florida open on Wednesday?
Sep 17 19:53:41 <DF64>   and hurricane preparation and evacuating is exhausting
Sep 17 19:53:59 <DesertRose>   And I just have zero interest in having the Argument with the nurse practitioner again, because the second time we had the Argument, I got the impression that it ended not because she actually believed what I was saying but because she didn't want to discuss it anymore
Sep 17 19:54:04 <DF64>   stores and restaurants are opening slowly
Sep 17 19:54:22 <DesertRose>   Yup, but I'm in extreme northeastern Florida, so we didn't take quite the beating that more southern parts of the state did.
Sep 17 19:55:00 <DesertRose>   Yeah, and I moved a lot of furniture away from my windows, just in case, and then had to move it all back, in addition to everything else.
Sep 17 19:55:02 <DesertRose>   Ugh.
Sep 17 19:55:25 <JudyWard>   Looked like the entire state except west panhandle was covered by storm
Sep 17 19:55:28 <DesertRose>   Yes.
Sep 17 19:55:36 <DesertRose>   I think even the western panhandle caught a little bit.
Sep 17 19:55:39 <DesertRose>   At least some rain.
Sep 17 19:55:57 <DesertRose>   Irma was a BIG sucker.
Sep 17 19:55:59 <JudyWard>   Looked like mostly rain for them
Sep 17 19:56:14 <DesertRose>   I saw a photograph comparing Andrew (1992) to Irma, and Andrew was about half the size.
Sep 17 19:56:18 <Laurna>   I can't imagine trying to evacuate my house.  that would be an imposibilty.
Sep 17 19:56:31 <DesertRose>   At which point, I was like, YIKES and also "It's time to LEAVE."
Sep 17 19:56:39 <JudyWard>   Many got out with just their lives & their pets
Sep 17 19:56:45 <DesertRose>   Yup
Sep 17 19:56:50 <DesertRose>   And some people didn't manage that much.  :(
Sep 17 19:56:55 <Evie>   Yeah. Stuff is stuff. It can be replaced. Your life can't.
Sep 17 19:57:12 <JudyWard>   Right.
Sep 17 19:57:27 <DesertRose>   For some folks, though, replacing stuff is REALLY difficult.
Sep 17 19:57:49 <JudyWard>   Yes, I don't know how we would replace our stuff, old & tacky as it is even
Sep 17 19:57:51 <DesertRose>   I put the stuff that absolutely could NOT be replaced (photographs, a few pieces of family heirloom type stuff) as far from my windows as I could get them.
Sep 17 19:58:01 <Laurna>   I still wonder how the Parrot park survived down in Fort Lauderdale.  I loved to visit that place.
Sep 17 19:58:15 <DesertRose>   As well as my desk and everything electronic as far from the windows as possible.
Sep 17 19:58:22 <DesertRose>   And my beloved sewing machine.
Sep 17 19:58:22 <Derynifank>   Lots of people are donating to try to help
Sep 17 19:58:25 <Evie>   True, but as much as I love the things I have and would have difficulty replacing it, being on financial hard times right now, none of it is more valuable than my life and the lives of my family.  And kittehs. They're family.  :-)
Sep 17 19:58:29 <JudyWard>   Is Busch Gardens still there?
Sep 17 19:58:37 <DesertRose>   Oh, no, not arguing that, Evie.
Sep 17 19:58:48 <JudyWard>   Yep, pets are family
Sep 17 19:58:57 <DesertRose>   Just saying that for some people, replacing stuff, especially big stuff like furniture, could be one hell of a hardship.
Sep 17 19:59:02 <DF64>   I turned my bedroom closet into a mancave and spent that night sleeping there since its the only room completely in the interior of the house
Sep 17 19:59:09 <DesertRose>   But no, I was going precisely nowhere without Carys-kitteh.
Sep 17 19:59:28 <Laurna>   As it should be DR
Sep 17 19:59:38 <DesertRose>   And she was SUCH a good kitty about the whole thing.
Sep 17 19:59:52 <KK>   Yike, anyone else watching The Oroville?  It looks promising, and starts right NOW, so I'll bail until next week.  Safe times, all.
Sep 17 19:59:56 <DesertRose>   She was basically stuck in her carrier in the car for 16 hours on the trip up and more like 17 hours on the trip back.
Sep 17 19:59:59 <Laurna>   Best of kitteh's
Sep 17 20:00:02 <DesertRose>   Oh, okay, see you later KK!
Sep 17 20:00:08 <JudyWard>   Bye, KK
Sep 17 20:00:10 <DesertRose>   Have a good week and thanks for coming to see us!
Sep 17 20:00:16 <The_Bee>   taped first episode, not yet watched
Sep 17 20:00:17 <Laurna>   Good Night KK
Sep 17 20:00:20 <DF64>   i saw the orville--liked it
Sep 17 20:00:23 *   KK steps onto her Portal, waves good night, and disappears in a showerof green sparkles.
Sep 17 20:00:32 <KK>   Nighters, all.
Sep 17 20:00:35 *   KK has quit (Quit: CGI:IRC)
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James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)


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