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KK Chat -- 10 September 2017
« on: September 10, 2017, 06:07:05 pm »
Sep 10 17:22:42 *   KK has joined
Sep 10 17:22:46 <DesertRose>   Hi KK!
Sep 10 17:22:50 <Shiral17>   Hi  everyone.
Sep 10 17:22:51 <Eyikl>   Hi Shiral17
Sep 10 17:22:51 <Evie>   Hi KK
Sep 10 17:22:52 <bynw>   hiyas KK
Sep 10 17:22:56 <Shiral17>   Hello Katherine
Sep 10 17:22:56 <Eyikl>   Hi
Sep 10 17:22:56 <KK>   Hello, all.
Sep 10 17:22:57 <The_Bee>   Hi Shiral and rehi Revanne.  What happened to Shirsl 1-16?
Sep 10 17:23:06 <The_Bee>   Hi KK
Sep 10 17:23:08 <Shiral17>   I don' t know/
Sep 10 17:23:09 <bynw>   and Shiral
Sep 10 17:23:11 *   Demercia has quit (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout))
Sep 10 17:23:28 *   JudyWard ( has joined
Sep 10 17:23:39 <The_Bee>   hi Judy Ward
Sep 10 17:23:42 <Jemler>   hi kk, shiral, judy
Sep 10 17:23:46 <bynw>   hi JudyWard
Sep 10 17:23:52 <Eyikl>   hi Judyward
Sep 10 17:23:55 <Shiral17>   I'm told my nick is already in use, and won't let me change it
Sep 10 17:23:56 <DesertRose>   Hi JudyWard
Sep 10 17:24:00 <Shiral17>   Hi Judyward
Sep 10 17:24:14 <KK>   Nobody is now under hurricane danger, right?  Though it looks like it might try to get Evie later in the week.
Sep 10 17:24:17 <DesertRose>   What in the world, Shiral17?
Sep 10 17:24:19 <JudyWard>   Hi, how's everyone?
Sep 10 17:24:33 <Jemler>   shiral happy birthday! i assume the 17 is how old you are?
Sep 10 17:24:35 <DesertRose>   What chat client are you using, Shiral17?
Sep 10 17:24:45 <Shiral17>   Not sure what's up. Just pretend I've been cloned.
Sep 10 17:24:45 <Shiral17>   Kiwi
Sep 10 17:24:54 <DesertRose>   Weird
Sep 10 17:25:04 <Evie>   Yes, we're supposed to get the tropical storm remains on Monday afternoon through much of Tuesday, I think
Sep 10 17:25:04 <revanne>   Demercia says to say sorry from her she can't get into any of the chatrooms from her end even though she's showing up here and she's too tired to work out what's wrong.
Sep 10 17:25:28 <Shiral17>   I'm definitely not in Hurricane range, but I'm concerned about my brother and sister in law in Tallahassee
Sep 10 17:25:28 <DesertRose>   Tell her hi and to get some rest.
Sep 10 17:25:29 <Evie>   The county next to mine is already under a storm warning, though here in my county it's just a rain and wind advisory
Sep 10 17:25:29 <The_Bee>   Give her our sympathy
Sep 10 17:25:30 <Eyikl>   thoe damn flightless birds! :)
Sep 10 17:25:36 <Annie>   One of my good friends is in Florida, riding it out.
Sep 10 17:26:09 <Annie>   It looks like it will have decreased a tad by the time it gets to her, though.
Sep 10 17:26:19 <revanne>   Will do.
Sep 10 17:26:22 <DesertRose>   Well, good, to that then, Annie.
Sep 10 17:26:24 <Evie>   My MIL has stubbornly refused to leave her house, even though she has a perfectly good house up here. She wouldn't even go an hour up the road to her friends' house who have a bomb shelter.
Sep 10 17:26:30 <KK>   Yeah, I've got 2 aunts, one each in Miami Lakes and in North Miami.  They're just hunkering down.
Sep 10 17:26:31 <Shiral17>   
However, I have finished my Roman Domus. The link will take you to the video on Youtube
Sep 10 17:26:45 <Evie>   My DH is from North Miami
Sep 10 17:27:00 <DesertRose>   Yikes, KK!  I hope your aunts stay safe (along with everyone else, for that matter).
Sep 10 17:27:13 <KK>   Is he really?  I didn't know you'd married a Floridian.
Sep 10 17:27:16 <The_Bee>   Did you see the newsstory about the woman who went into labor as Irma was approaching?  The doctors couldn't reaach er, so they guided her remotely through the home birth.
Sep 10 17:27:27 <Shiral17>   I hope they will come through all right, KK
Sep 10 17:27:32 <Evie>   Yes, though he's lived in Alabama since college
Sep 10 17:27:48 <Evie>   But he is a third generation Miamian
Sep 10 17:27:50 <Shiral17>   Irma is one big mean hurricane
Sep 10 17:28:04 <Shiral17>   Well, talk about being born in a whirl wind
Sep 10 17:28:06 <JudyWard>   Hope all will be well in FL.
Sep 10 17:28:07 <Eyikl>   I know someone whose parents live in FL. They couldn't get out and say they are buying tarps in case the roof blows off.
Sep 10 17:28:08 <DesertRose>   Incidentally, I'm exhausted and haven't really bounced back from some fairly bad sleep deprivation, so please excuse any typos or other usage errors (Bad English major!  No cookie!) I may commit.
Sep 10 17:28:15 <DesertRose>   Along with anything weird I may say.  :P
Sep 10 17:28:58 <KK>   You're allowed, DR.
Sep 10 17:29:05 <DesertRose>   :D
Sep 10 17:29:27 <Shiral17>   Entirely understandable in the circumstances, DR
Sep 10 17:29:47 <Jemler>   weirder than usual?
Sep 10 17:29:50 <DesertRose>   Thursday night, I didn't get to sleep until actually very early Friday morning (a bit after midnight) and then I woke up around 3:30 and couldn't get back to sleep.
Sep 10 17:29:53 <bynw>   dont worry about those DR :) we all understand the circumstances today
Sep 10 17:29:53 <DesertRose>   Yes, actually.
Sep 10 17:30:00 <DesertRose>   And then the 16-hour or so drive and yeah.
Sep 10 17:30:09 <revanne>   Domus is very impressive DR
Sep 10 17:30:22 <revanne>   Or even Shiral. Sorry
Sep 10 17:30:32 <KK>   How is the cat weathering this experience, DR?
Sep 10 17:30:42 <Evie>   I love the domus initial view. Am saving the page to view later
Sep 10 17:31:13 <DesertRose>   I wasn't driving, but I was talking to the friend who drove because she was tired and stressed too, and basically whatever she needed to keep awake and get us here safely that was within my power to do, I did, which included chatting to keep her awake and shutting up when she needed to navigate through odd interchanges in an unfamiliar area.
Sep 10 17:31:20 <DesertRose>   Carys is doing markedly well.
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Sep 10 17:32:01 <Evie>   Still the chill kitty?
Sep 10 17:32:10 <DesertRose>   She's basically the Queen of Chill anyway.  She was incredibly good about being in her carrier for the long drive, and she has to stay in the bedroom in the apartment of our hosts, because one of the two people who live here is allergic to cats.
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Sep 10 17:32:45 <Evie>   Nice that they didn't mind her coming along, then!
Sep 10 17:32:47 <DesertRose>   But she's really just kind of hanging out.  I go in the room every so often and just cuddle and play for a bit.  But she's seriously just about bombproof.
Sep 10 17:33:04 *   Shiral17 ( has joined
Sep 10 17:33:05 <KK>   That's a blessing, then.
Sep 10 17:33:15 <DesertRose>   Nope, they didn't.  I'll just vacuum the carpet before we take off.
Sep 10 17:33:19 <Evie>   rehi
Sep 10 17:33:22 <The_Bee>   wb shiral17
Sep 10 17:33:36 <DesertRose>   Rehi Shiral17
Sep 10 17:33:46 <revanne>   Rehi
Sep 10 17:33:52 <Shiral17>   That's funny, I didn't even know I'd left
Sep 10 17:34:09 <Shiral17>   Although I did open a new window to share the Domus video on FB.
Sep 10 17:34:22 <DesertRose>   BRB
Sep 10 17:34:43 <The_Bee>   A lot of folks are getting the boot today.  Is mibbit mad at anyone?
Sep 10 17:35:08 *   Annie (Annie@5E691D.471F44.849B97.933C0F) has joined
Sep 10 17:35:19 <Evie>   rehi
Sep 10 17:35:23 <Shiral17>   Mibbit is cranky as we all know
Sep 10 17:35:30 <revanne>   Maybe  it's getting overexcited by the storms.
Sep 10 17:35:31 <The_Bee>   WB annie
Sep 10 17:35:37 <Annie>   I think the whole site just hates me at the moment LOL.
Sep 10 17:35:37 <KK>   It's the atmospherics from Irma.
Sep 10 17:35:39 *   Shiral17 adds a virtual ice cream sundae bar.
Sep 10 17:35:51 <Eyikl>   Nice that Carys was so calm. Our cats wail horribly even when going a few towns over to the vet.
Sep 10 17:35:54 <Shiral17>   Hot here out West, although not as bad as last week
Sep 10 17:35:59 <Shiral17>   Hi Eyikl
Sep 10 17:36:04 <revanne>   Ours too.
Sep 10 17:36:09 <Shiral17>   Hello Annie
Sep 10 17:36:14 <Annie>   Hi.
Sep 10 17:36:20 <The_Bee>   Still fighting fires, Shiral?
Sep 10 17:36:21 <Evie>   Are the wildfires all well north of you, Shiral?
Sep 10 17:36:38 *   revanne adds hot chocolate as it's cold here.
Sep 10 17:36:38 <JudyWard>   Wish those fires were out.
Sep 10 17:36:48 <Eyikl>   Were you near the forestfires in Montanna, Shiral17?
Sep 10 17:36:48 <Shiral17>   Yes, Alas. Although poor Oregon and Montana have it even worse. The
Sep 10 17:37:13 <DesertRose>   Also western Canada, but yeah.
Sep 10 17:37:15 <DesertRose>   Yikes
Sep 10 17:37:16 <The_Bee>   Wasn't there a fire in Las Angeles?
Sep 10 17:37:20 <revanne>   You folk are really getting hit from all directions.
Sep 10 17:37:23 <Shiral17>   I'm not near the fires, but last weekend, we not only had a killer heat wave, but the sky was more beige than blue. It was horrible
Sep 10 17:37:39 <Shiral17>   Yes, but I'm 400 miles from Los Angeles
Sep 10 17:37:41 <Evie>   :-(
Sep 10 17:37:48 <The_Bee>   and an 8.1 earthquake in Mexico.
Sep 10 17:37:53 <DesertRose>   Yikes
Sep 10 17:38:00 <Shiral17>   Nature seems to have borrowed SOMEBODY's bat
Sep 10 17:38:23 <Annie>   Friends and I were going to holiday in the Keys next Spring. I think we'll be going somewhere else, if the pictures I've seen are anything to go by.
Sep 10 17:38:46 <The_Bee>   Someone needs to Call the Quarters.
Sep 10 17:39:06 <Eyikl>   Humans have destablized the climate, and natue is wierd now.
Sep 10 17:39:23 <Shiral17>   Eyikl, I'm several miles south and West of Montana, so no. I'm really sad about the fire in Oregon's Columbia gorge. Some teenaged idiots were setting off fireworks in hot dry weather
Sep 10 17:40:04 <Shiral17>   IT's a beautiful area and it's   just burning up
Sep 10 17:41:11 <revanne>   I read about that. What were they using for brains. I know teenagers can be daft but there is daft and just idiotic.
Sep 10 17:41:38 <Eyikl>   Yeah, that certainly does help anyone. Like the people out walking on the newly uncovered seafloor.
Sep 10 17:42:00 <The_Bee>   According to TV news, 90% of forest fires are caused by humans.
Sep 10 17:42:03 <Eyikl>   *doesn't
Sep 10 17:42:07 <Annie>   Ugh. Did you see the pictures of the people walking around on Tampa Bay?
Sep 10 17:42:28 <Shiral17>   We had a wet winter and spring, then a dry summer, so there was a lot of fuel for the fire. Fireworks are fun....but for pete's sake NOT in the forest!
Sep 10 17:42:37 <Evie>   Yes, quite worrisome, since that storm surge will come in quickly when it comes back.
Sep 10 17:42:58 <Annie>   Natural selection in action?
Sep 10 17:43:21 <The_Bee>   I hope the kids got out safely, even though they didn't deserve to.
Sep 10 17:43:23 <Shiral17>   Some people just have NO sense
Sep 10 17:43:23 <Evie>   Hopefully not, but yeah.  :-(
Sep 10 17:44:08 <Evie>   That was to Annie, not Bee.  I hope the fire-setting little idjits lived to learn from their experience
Sep 10 17:44:24 <KK>   Yeah, I hadn't realized that a hurricane could suck water out to sea the way tsunamis do.
Sep 10 17:44:24 <Shiral17>   I hope the state of Oregon hit the people who started that fire with BIG trouble.
Sep 10 17:44:46 <The_Bee>   Maybe they were trying to win a Darwin Award.
Sep 10 17:45:41 <Shiral17>   If so, they really went out of their way to win it
Sep 10 17:46:33 <revanne>   Me neither KK but you would think that people might work out that the water would come back with a bang.
Sep 10 17:46:34 <Evie>   Actually, that would freak me out more than the wind, I think, since I tend to associate negative surge with tsunamis so much, I think I'd have that gut reaction even if I knew it was an approaching hurricane causing it.
Sep 10 17:46:58 <Evie>   Since you can't exactly displace ocean without the water wanting to rush back in eventually
Sep 10 17:47:39 <revanne>   Lots of would be Canute courtiers.
Sep 10 17:48:13 <revanne>   Since Canute didn't think he could hold back the tide.
Sep 10 17:48:25 <Annie>   There has been so much press about 10-15 ft high walls of water, you'd have thought it might have sunk in.
Sep 10 17:49:07 <revanne>   Especially since the Tsunami of 2004.
Sep 10 17:49:14 <Evie>   Just reading the comments on some of the YouTube videos out there has given me a sense of despair at humanity's collective IQ
Sep 10 17:49:17 <Shiral17>   And the one in 2011 in Japan
Sep 10 17:50:30 <revanne>   Primates must be really upset sometimes to be so closely related to humankind.
Sep 10 17:51:14 <Shiral17>   Does make one understand such immortal warning labels as "Product will be hot after heating."
Sep 10 17:51:19 <Evie>   LOL, revanne
Sep 10 17:51:38 <Annie>   "May contain nuts" on a packet of peanuts. Yeah.
Sep 10 17:52:13 <Evie>   My favorite warning label was on a white plastic gingerbread house made for a model railroad prop. The label said "Our lawyers require us to warn you that this product is not meant for human consumption."
Sep 10 17:52:38 <revanne>   Lol
Sep 10 17:52:40 <Jemler>   the railroad or the house?
Sep 10 17:52:47 <Evie>   Either.  :-D
Sep 10 17:53:01 <Evie>   Although it was on the (clearly fake, plastic) gingerbread house
Sep 10 17:53:13 <Annie>   My favourite was on a frisbee. Like a foot across lump of plastic?
Sep 10 17:53:18 <The_Bee>   Every label warning people not to do something stupid was probably inspired by someone who did that stupid  something.
Sep 10 17:53:25 <Eyikl>   SOMEONE clearly didn't want to write a warning.
Sep 10 17:53:26 <Shiral17>   Maybe we need labels that say "Be careful, you idiot."
Sep 10 17:53:29 <Evie>   Had it been realistically painted, I could imagine the need for a warning, but it was unpainted white plastic
Sep 10 17:53:31 <Annie>   And it was labelled "Not for use by children under 3 years, because of small parts."
Sep 10 17:53:35 <revanne>   My portable heated drying rack says "Must not be used in a bath".
Sep 10 17:54:12 <Evie>   We had a push mower with a warning label not to pick it up and carry it while it was running.
Sep 10 17:54:27 <Evie>   Label showed a pic of a stick figure carrying it up stairs with an X through it
Sep 10 17:54:31 <revanne>   Yikes!
Sep 10 17:54:52 <revanne>   The stuff of horror movies.
Sep 10 17:55:18 <The_Bee>   A moment of absentminded ness and....
Sep 10 17:55:45 <Evie>   Sadly, years ago when DH was a paralegal, he was working on a case in which a young man who had managed to amputate his own genitalia in such a mishap was attempting to sue the lawnmower company.  The law firm he worked for was representing the lawnmower company.
Sep 10 17:56:12 <Annie>   Ouch.
Sep 10 17:56:16 <Eyikl>   Saws that say not to stick your hands under the blade...
Sep 10 17:56:18 <Evie>   So yeah, that is why lawnmowers now require that seemingly commonsense warning
Sep 10 17:56:47 <JudyWard>   Some things need a sign saying "If you're stupid, don't touch this."
Sep 10 17:56:47 <Annie>   Though someone I used to know ran over her foot with the lawnmower. Made a fair attempt at DIY amputation.
Sep 10 17:57:06 <Evie>   Ow!
Sep 10 17:57:26 <The_Bee>   My dad lost the tips of his fingers when he stuck his hand into a snow-blower.  He just walked up to the hospital and had them sewn back on.
Sep 10 17:57:39 <revanne>   Ow!
Sep 10 17:57:55 <JudyWard>   My hubby backed the rear tire of the lawn tractor up on the porch and turned it over recently, He was OK.
Sep 10 17:57:57 *   drakensis (~drakensis@5A6A32.DFA9C1.822DB1.39FFAE) has joined
Sep 10 17:58:07 <The_Bee>   hi drakensis
Sep 10 17:58:07 <JudyWard>   Oh, ouch!!
Sep 10 17:58:10 <DesertRose>   Hi drakensis
Sep 10 17:58:14 <drakensis>   hi
Sep 10 17:58:25 <revanne>   Glad he was ok.
Sep 10 17:58:28 <revanne>   Hi
Sep 10 17:58:30 <Eyikl>   Ouch. I bet that man didn't like hisco-workers much after that.
Sep 10 17:59:04 <Eyikl>   hi drakenis
Sep 10 17:59:26 <drakensis>   evening
Sep 10 17:59:34 <Evie>   My DH had a mishap once when his riding lawnmower nearly rolled over on him when he was mowing the slope beside our house, but years of SCA fighting gave him the instincts to jump off and roll out of the way before the mower blades landed where he would have landed if he had tried to stay on
Sep 10 18:00:04 <The_Bee>   Good for him!
Sep 10 18:00:11 <JudyWard>   Lou's deadman switch kicked in as soon as he was off & killed the mower.
Sep 10 18:00:22 <Evie>   And he is super cautious about that slope now
Sep 10 18:00:25 <revanne>   And good for SCA training
Sep 10 18:00:26 <DesertRose>   Reckon so!
Sep 10 18:00:55 <KK>   BRB
Sep 10 18:00:56 <Evie>   Both of our kids have learned how to drive a riding mower, but they aren't allowed to mow that slope
Sep 10 18:00:57 <JudyWard>   You just don't see those things coming.
Sep 10 18:01:18 <DesertRose>   Incidentally, one of my hosts is cooking supper, so I may be sort of distracted from time to time, chatting with him, and then eventually the food will be cooked and it will be time to eat.
Sep 10 18:01:33 <revanne>   Ok
Sep 10 18:01:38 <DesertRose>   We've had a super quiet, laid-back day around here.
Sep 10 18:01:56 <DesertRose>   Because we're all for various reasons really tired, and I think we sort of needed a day to just not do much.
Sep 10 18:02:01 <JudyWard>   Wish someone was cooking my dinner. <G>
Sep 10 18:02:04 <revanne>   I should think you need it.
Sep 10 18:02:17 <DesertRose>   Well, all I actually get to eat of it is the jasmine rice I can smell from here and yummmmm.
Sep 10 18:02:46 <Evie>   At least that will be yummy
Sep 10 18:02:53 <JudyWard>   At least jasmine rice is really good.
Sep 10 18:03:15 <DesertRose>   But he's also cooking broccoli and sweet potatoes together, to which he intends to add browned ground turkey (which is on the cook top in a different pan) and pasta (whence it cometh I'm not sure), and if not for the broccoli, that would be super appealing.
Sep 10 18:03:19 <The_Bee>   How come that's all you get to eat?  Allergies?
Sep 10 18:03:24 <JudyWard>   Don't know why the dogs aren't demanding to be fed; it's 3 min after 5.
Sep 10 18:03:39 <DesertRose>   I can't do broccoli or cauliflower or anything in that family, even when my digestive tract IS behaving "normally."
Sep 10 18:03:48 <DesertRose>   Digestive Yuk From Hell, Bee.
Sep 10 18:03:51 <Shiral17>   Back. Realized I needed to put my laundry in the dryer
Sep 10 18:03:58 <revanne>   We drove into London today to take DD2's stuff to her new flat. Really nice given how crazy London rents are but up 40 stairs to her room.
Sep 10 18:04:01 <JudyWard>   Oh, that's too bad.
Sep 10 18:04:32 <Shiral17>   Well...she'll have the leg muscles of a mountain goat, Revanne. =o)
Sep 10 18:04:32 <DesertRose>   I can eat a small quantity of cabbage, occasionally, and that's about all I can hack out of that entire group of vegetables.
Sep 10 18:04:51 <KK>   Back.  Had to pour myself a cup of tea.
Sep 10 18:05:03 <The_Bee>   Any progress in treating your other health woes, DR?
Sep 10 18:05:13 <DesertRose>   Like, a little shredded purple cabbage in a mixed-green salad is okay, occasional small quantities of coleslaw are okay, but more than that and I have tummy trouble.
Sep 10 18:05:14 <DesertRose>   Not yet.
Sep 10 18:05:16 <revanne>   She already does Shiral as she cycles 30 mins into work and back each day.
Sep 10 18:05:43 <Annie>   DD's first year uni flat was on the 4th floor (so the US 5th floor). And there was no lift.
Sep 10 18:05:43 <Annie>   I cursed her a lot.
Sep 10 18:05:47 <revanne>   Tea iscimportant KK.
Sep 10 18:05:58 <Evie>   LOL, Annie
Sep 10 18:06:01 <DesertRose>   The Botox neurologist called me a few days ago and said they'd submitted the paperwork on their end to my insurance company and we're basically waiting on red tape at this point before we try the Botox to end/control the headaches.
Sep 10 18:06:08 <DesertRose>   LOL, Annie, I hear you!
Sep 10 18:06:08 <Shiral17>   DR, a quiet, laid back day is  exactly what we all need, sometimes. Especially after stress
Sep 10 18:06:11 <DesertRose>   I HATE stairs.
Sep 10 18:06:26 <DesertRose>   My knees protest mightily.  (Bad gene pool for osteoarthritis, basically)
Sep 10 18:06:30 <DesertRose>   BRB, jasmine rice calls.
Sep 10 18:06:38 <revanne>   Yum
Sep 10 18:06:41 <Evie>   OK, enjoy
Sep 10 18:07:04 <JudyWard>   Eat some for me!
Sep 10 18:07:07 <Evie>   I am watching TV with Gigi on one arm of my chair keeping me company
Sep 10 18:07:11 *   Annie has quit (Quit: - A hand crafted IRC client)
Sep 10 18:07:20 <Shiral17>   So, now she'll be able to bounce from mountain peak to mountain peak. =o)
Sep 10 18:08:00 <Eyikl>   That's an offical sport, I believe.
Sep 10 18:08:20 <Evie>   LOL
Sep 10 18:08:33 <KK>   Anyone seen Hidden Figures, about 3 black women who were early NASA scientists,--mathematicians, engineers, computer programmers?  It's on HBO currently, and it's Very Good.  Watched it last night.
Sep 10 18:08:34 *   Annie (Annie@5E691D.471F44.849B97.933C0F) has joined
Sep 10 18:08:40 <revanne>   Lol Shiral. Actually that's fairly accurate for my DD2 who didn't move until she was 18 months old and hasn't stopped since.
Sep 10 18:08:45 <Annie>   *Really* doesn't like me...
Sep 10 18:08:59 <Evie>   All of our hotels are completely booked in Birmingham for evacuees, and our RV parks and other campsites are open for people fleeing Irma
Sep 10 18:09:05 <revanne>   Yes KK isn't it brilluant?
Sep 10 18:09:21 <Shiral17>   Yes, saw that back in February
Sep 10 18:09:21 <Evie>   Oh, I loved Hidden Figures! Saw it on the plane ride home from Europe
Sep 10 18:09:31 <The_Bee>   There was a woman in church who'd recently returned from 35 years in Alaska.  When I asked her about the mosquitos, she said they call them their state bird.
Sep 10 18:09:46 <revanne>   Lol
Sep 10 18:09:59 <Evie>   :-D
Sep 10 18:10:31 *   revanne makes mental note never to go to Alaska.
Sep 10 18:10:49 <The_Bee>   We had a potluck reception in honor of our new music director.  I made deviled eggs, and they all got eaten.
Sep 10 18:10:56 <Eyikl>   Lovely. You'd think it would be too cold for mosquitos.
Sep 10 18:11:03 <Shiral17>   Deviled eggs go fast almost everywhere
Sep 10 18:11:09 <Evie>   I love deviled eggs
Sep 10 18:11:10 <revanne>   Mosquitoes, indeed bitey insects of any variety regard me as a free meal.
Sep 10 18:11:12 <The_Bee>   She said it was beautiful place.
Sep 10 18:11:41 <Shiral17>   Yeah, they think I'm very tasty too, Revanne. Probably because I have a sweet tooth that just won't quit
Sep 10 18:11:54 <The_Bee>   long summers==big mosquitos and otherinsects
Sep 10 18:12:36 <revanne>   So I'm the savoury course Shiral and you're the desert.
Sep 10 18:12:55 <The_Bee>   The director's wife and I are both flautists
Sep 10 18:12:59 <Jemler>   you two are making me hungry! :)
Sep 10 18:13:08 <Shiral17>   Seems that way, Revanne Let's BOTH of us avoid Alaska
Sep 10 18:13:22 <DesertRose>   Re: "Hidden Figures," the movie ticket was basically my birthday present from my family, back in January.  Amazing film.  LOVED it!
Sep 10 18:13:24 <The_Bee>   Just what is a savoury?
Sep 10 18:13:34 <Shiral17>   The main course.
Sep 10 18:14:04 <revanne>   A dish that isn't sweet. Like devilled eggs for example.
Sep 10 18:14:17 <Shiral17>   Loved the movie, but wow, those women had to put up with a LOT
Sep 10 18:14:29 <DesertRose>   No lie, Shiral17
Sep 10 18:15:03 <Shiral17>   Imagine having to run to a different building whenever you had to use the facilities
Sep 10 18:15:04 <The_Bee>   My secret ingredient was feta cheese crumbles.
Sep 10 18:15:09 <DesertRose>   Bee, in the US, that word is spelled "savory."
Sep 10 18:15:16 <revanne>   And got none of the credit either.
Sep 10 18:15:22 <DesertRose>   Shiral17, the historical Katherine Johnson didn't actually have to do that.
Sep 10 18:15:27 <DesertRose>   That was a Hollywoodism.
Sep 10 18:15:41 <The_Bee>   I know.  I was just copying Revanne's spelling.
Sep 10 18:16:10 <Shiral17>   She still had to put up with a lot of racism and sexism while having one of the most incredible minds in that room.
Sep 10 18:16:13 <DesertRose>   The historical Katherine Johnson (who is incidentally still living and recently celebrated her 99th birthday) went to the ladies' located most conveniently and basically used The Look to dare anyone to say anything about it.
Sep 10 18:16:19 <KK>   But there were white and colored facilities.  I remember water fountains so-labeled, when I was in grade school.  And blacks having to sit in the back of the bus.
Sep 10 18:16:22 <DesertRose>   But yes, absolutely, re your last, Shiral17.
Sep 10 18:16:39 <revanne>   Sorry I'm attached to my 'u's.
Sep 10 18:16:39 <DesertRose>   Oh yes, KK.  I'm not disputing that segregation was A Thing because heaven knows it was.
Sep 10 18:16:48 <DesertRose>   Just that particular element of that movie was Hollywooded up.
Sep 10 18:17:29 <Shiral17>   If you have a woman who can turn a planetary orbit into a parabolic orbit IN her head then pinpoint where the space craft would land....well, it's more than most of us can do!
Sep 10 18:17:39 <JudyWard>   And when we went to the doctor, there was a "colored" waiting room separate.
Sep 10 18:17:56 <revanne>   I guess it made the point in a way that made people realuse how humiliating segregation was.
Sep 10 18:18:38 <Shiral17>   And it was one heck of a battle to get RID of Segregation legally
Sep 10 18:18:53 <Annie>   Anyone here read The Help?
Sep 10 18:18:55 <DesertRose>   Yes.  One of the things that simultaneously makes me want to scream with rage and cry with despair is, "How many people were never able to develop talents because of discriminatory laws and so forth?  What have we, humanity, lost because we were massive. . .jerks, to keep it PG13?"
Sep 10 18:18:59 <JudyWard>   It was a long, uphill battle but it got done.
Sep 10 18:19:07 <Annie>   That was an eye-opener for me, as a Brit.
Sep 10 18:19:30 <KK>   It did, indeed.  It was bad enough that, until I was in college, there had never been more than 2 women in any med school at U Miami.  There were6, I think, in ours.
Sep 10 18:19:31 <revanne>   Yes. I really liked that too.
Sep 10 18:20:23 <Shiral17>   Yes, I read it. I'd also recommend the TV series I'll Fly Away, which I thought was a better written and acted version of what women went through at that time
Sep 10 18:20:24 <DesertRose>   You know, how many women had brilliant minds but sexist policies kept them from pursuing education?  How many people of color?  Etc.
Sep 10 18:20:47 <KK>   Yes, liked The Help--but Hidden Figures told many of the same kinds of stories, but far more eloquently.  But maybe it's because I was in sciences.
Sep 10 18:21:00 <The_Bee>   The writer Harry Golden once was in a hospital and saw three thermometers marked White, Colored, and Rectal.  "Now that's what I call 'gradual integration.'"
Sep 10 18:21:15 <DesertRose>   Wow.
Sep 10 18:21:23 <DesertRose>   And not a good "wow," Bee.
Sep 10 18:21:29 <Shiral17>   It's different aspects of the same story--how women and people of color had to deal with systematic racism and still have lives
Sep 10 18:21:33 <DesertRose>   Yup
Sep 10 18:22:07 <KK>   In Hidden Figures, one of hte points that most pissed me off was that Katherine couldn't pour coffee out of the same container.  Talk about dumb....
Sep 10 18:22:17 <DesertRose>   Yeah.
Sep 10 18:22:34 <DesertRose>   I think that actually DID happen, the segregated coffee machine thing.
Sep 10 18:23:03 <revanne>   We had a very racist couple in our church - we have a lot of African families. I have to say I was glad when they moved away to be nearer family.
Sep 10 18:23:12 <DesertRose>   Grr
Sep 10 18:23:25 <DesertRose>   (at the racist people, not you, revanne, just in case that's not obvious)
Sep 10 18:23:45 <revanne>   No worries. I got that.
Sep 10 18:23:48 <DesertRose>   :)
Sep 10 18:24:04 <DesertRose>   So KK, have you ever been to Agecroft Hall?
Sep 10 18:24:04 <KK>   I think it did.  But  I know how difficult it was for women to break into many disciplines.  My mother would have gone into science, if it had been allowed when she was a girl.  Probably would have gone into astronomy.  She still retains an abiding fascination with everything to do with space.
Sep 10 18:24:22 <Shiral17>   Racism IS basically stupid. And for those at the receiving end, very painful and difficult
Sep 10 18:24:39 <DesertRose>   That's exactly (at least part of) what I meant about the rage/despair remark a few comments of mine ago.
Sep 10 18:24:43 <DesertRose>   It is, Shiral17.
Sep 10 18:25:01 <KK>   DR, yes, re Agecroft Hall, when we were property searching and came in thorugh Richmond one trip.
Sep 10 18:25:26 <The_Bee>   What is it?
Sep 10 18:25:29 <DesertRose>   Ditto sexism, antisemitism, pretty much any other sort of prejudice against people for traits that have nothing to do with their character or abilities.
Sep 10 18:25:36 <Shiral17>   We can pass laws to make society more just, but getting rid of the trait itself in human nature is far more complex. It's epart of why I found the events in Charlottesville so discouraging.
Sep 10 18:25:52 <revanne>   My DD2 who is 32 was at a work conference last week and was told she was too young and pretty to work forvthe organisation she does!
Sep 10 18:26:15 <Shiral17>   Must we REALLY go back and have to refight these same damn battles?
Sep 10 18:26:19 <DesertRose>   Bee, it's an English Tudor-period half-timbered house that originally was built in Yorkshire but was about to be destroyed so a wealthy American bought it and took the most salvageable parts and basically rebuilt it in Richmond, VA.
Sep 10 18:26:24 <DesertRose>   It.  Is.  Amazing.
Sep 10 18:26:27 <Evie>   "Shall I come back when I'm older and uglier?"  What the heck?
Sep 10 18:26:34 <Eyikl>   By someone else who works for the organization?
Sep 10 18:26:52 <Shiral17>   "That's okay, there are enough old frights to make up for me.
Sep 10 18:26:55 <DesertRose>   Oh, holy cow, revanne!
Sep 10 18:26:56 <The_Bee>   a man. I assume
Sep 10 18:27:20 <DesertRose>   LOL, Shiral17
Sep 10 18:27:21 <Evie>   I'll have to add it to my places to see list, DR
Sep 10 18:27:25 <revanne>   No - thankfully. By someone at the conference who she'll becer see again probably. She was too gobsmacked tobrespond.
Sep 10 18:27:27 <DesertRose>   I'd be one of the "old frights."
Sep 10 18:27:42 <DesertRose>   Probably for the best, re: DD2 being gobsmacked.
Sep 10 18:28:00 <DesertRose>   Else the dipstick who said that might have found himself literally smacked in the gob.
Sep 10 18:28:13 <Shiral17>   You'd love the Cloisters in New York, Evie.
Sep 10 18:28:16 <Evie>   "Oh, no worries, they'll talke anyone in this organization. They took YOU, didn't they?"
Sep 10 18:28:16 <revanne>   Or elsewhere.
Sep 10 18:28:24 <DesertRose>   LOL, indeed, revanne
Sep 10 18:28:30 <Shiral17>   LOL, Evie
Sep 10 18:28:43 <Evie>   *take
Sep 10 18:29:11 <revanne>   My spelling us dying so I'll say goodnight. Stay safe everyone.
Sep 10 18:29:30 <Evie>   Goodnight, revanne
Sep 10 18:29:31 <Eyikl>   Goodnight revanne
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Sep 10 18:29:52 <The_Bee>   Return those rented, fingers, revane, and demand your money bck
Sep 10 18:29:58 <DesertRose>   The wealthy American who brought Agecroft to the US died in 1929, but his widow continued to live in the house (they actually lived in it) until the late 1960's, and the library from when Agecroft was their home is still the way it was when they lived there; the rest of the house is, per his Last Will, a museum full of late medieval/Renaissance furnishings and artwork and documents and yeah.
Sep 10 18:30:07 <JudyWard>   Have a good evening!.
Sep 10 18:30:22 <DesertRose>   I missed revanne typing that long bit about the museum.
Sep 10 18:30:32 <Eyikl>   wow. Sounds pretty
Sep 10 18:30:47 <The_Bee>   I missed her too, Dr
Sep 10 18:31:07 <Shiral17>   Oops, sorry to have missed Revanne
Sep 10 18:32:05 <Shiral17>   Sounds fascinating, and I'd never heard of Agecroft
Sep 10 18:32:26 <DesertRose>   The ceiling of the library is made, in part, with the oak beams from the original Great Hall of Agecroft (which was begun in the 1300's, IIRC, and added to over the years until the last direct male heir to the estate died and it almost became a ruin until Mr. Williams bought it and fought with Parliament to bring it to the US--they eventually decided that preserving it, even in the Colonies, was preferable to
Sep 10 18:32:26 <DesertRose>   demolishing it in Yorkshire).
Sep 10 18:33:08 <DesertRose>   And I'm being a bit of a smart mouth re: "the Colonies," since the transport of the remains of Agecroft happened in the 1920s.
Sep 10 18:33:44 <Annie>   I'm going to love you and leave you, too.
Sep 10 18:33:48 <Annie>   Take care, all.
Sep 10 18:33:53 <DesertRose>   Okay, g'night, Annie.
Sep 10 18:33:58 <Evie>   Goodnight, Annie
Sep 10 18:34:00 <DesertRose>   I hope the forum/login woes are solved.
Sep 10 18:34:00 <Annie>   night
Sep 10 18:34:01 <The_Bee>   nighters, annie. glad you came
Sep 10 18:34:03 <Eyikl>   goodnight Annie
Sep 10 18:34:20 <Shiral17>   NIght, Annie. Have a good week
Sep 10 18:34:22 <Jemler>   nite annie
Sep 10 18:34:28 <Annie>   Yes, I have a login now. Still never got the message Bynw sent, so there's something funny going on there.
Sep 10 18:34:49 <DesertRose>   Also, my little greedy English major heart went all grabby-hands at the library (among other things), because it was massive and full of beautiful books of varying levels of antiquity.
Sep 10 18:34:51 <DesertRose>   Okay, cool.
Sep 10 18:34:56 <DesertRose>   G'night, Annie.
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Sep 10 18:35:17 <Shiral17>   Well, maybe that's the problem with my Nick tonight...I don't have a login
Sep 10 18:35:27 <DesertRose>   And my little greedy SCA calligrapher heart went all grabby-hands over the documents.  :)
Sep 10 18:35:35 <Evie>   LOL
Sep 10 18:36:02 <DesertRose>   CGI is the only browser based chat client that should require you to log into the forum to use.
Sep 10 18:36:03 <Shiral17>   My greedy little Deryni Fan wishes we could shoot a Deryni Movie at Agecroft.
Sep 10 18:36:07 <Eyikl>   Were they well decorated documents?
Sep 10 18:36:10 <DesertRose>   I wonder why Kiwi is being such a pain.
Sep 10 18:36:10 <Jemler>   what exactly can you do with a phd in literature?
Sep 10 18:36:27 <DesertRose>   Let's put it this way, Eyikl.  One of the documents was from early in the reign of Elizabeth 1.
Sep 10 18:36:28 <Shiral17>   It hates me, I guess
Sep 10 18:36:45 <Eyikl>   !
Sep 10 18:37:03 *   bynw has to go beat up a computer bbab
Sep 10 18:37:05 <DesertRose>   The document itself was in a frame that was easily four feet by easily two and a half feet, and the beeswax seal hanging from the document (inside the frame) was larger than my fist, and I do NOT have small hands.
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Sep 10 18:37:51 <KK>   Yeah, it's a lovely site.  We enjoyed our visit.
Sep 10 18:38:08 <DesertRose>   The seal had Elizabeth in her coronation robes seated on the throne, with her name across the top and probably other things around it but I didn't get that much time to look at it.
Sep 10 18:38:40 <DesertRose>   So even though the reason I'm in the Richmond metro area sort of sucks, the visit itself is basically doing the diametric opposite of sucking.  :D
Sep 10 18:38:43 <Eyikl>   Well more than live on Avenue Q, L'm sure, Jemler
Sep 10 18:38:53 <DesertRose>   LOL, Eyikl
Sep 10 18:39:04 <The_Bee>   I prefer readable books to merely beautiful ones.  When i was in library school, we got to see a copy of the Book of Kells. I just wanted to know what it said.
Sep 10 18:39:14 <Jemler>   it just seems like a useless degree.
Sep 10 18:39:17 <DesertRose>   Teach literature at the university level and write a LOT of papers, re: PhD in literature.
Sep 10 18:39:45 <Eyikl>   Anything that invovles writing, I think.
Sep 10 18:39:56 <DesertRose>   I don't have a PhD or even a MA; I only finished my BA before money said "no" to pursuing higher degrees.
Sep 10 18:40:02 <Shiral17>   When I was in Dublin I saw the actual Book of Kells. But alas, that week I was there it was open to a kind of boring page. Almost NO decoration of any kind
Sep 10 18:40:19 <Eyikl>   :(
Sep 10 18:40:26 <Jemler>   i learned to read in first grade. my  teacher must have had one.
Sep 10 18:40:42 <DesertRose>   Well, the Book of Kells is also sufficiently old that you'd need some serious historical-linguistic skills to read it anyway.
Sep 10 18:40:54 <Shiral17>   The exhibit on how the book was put together was much more interesting, in all. As was Trinity College and that amazing LIbrary
Sep 10 18:40:55 <DesertRose>   What are you on about, Jemler?  I'm confused.
Sep 10 18:41:12 <Jemler>   dr, you canget the Book of ZKells on DVD.
Sep 10 18:41:15 <Eyikl>   I hope the seal had other thing on it if it was that big, DR
Sep 10 18:41:21 <DesertRose>   An elementary school teacher would probably have a bachelor's degree, maybe a master's or working on it.
Sep 10 18:41:23 <The_Bee>   I'll wait til it becomes available in paperback.
Sep 10 18:41:32 <KK>   A literature degree falls into the category of "hiacynths to feed the soul." 
Sep 10 18:41:44 <DesertRose>   Yes, I'm sure it did, re: seal; I just didn't have time to take a really good look at it.
Sep 10 18:41:57 <Jemler>   i just remembered seeing something about Phd in literature, and was curious.
Sep 10 18:42:01 <Shiral17>   Reading it wasn't really the point for me, DR. I wanted to see some serious early Celtic art. And...I didn't get to see it. At least not right there. But I did get to see the Hill of Tara and New Grange
Sep 10 18:42:28 <DesertRose>   Yeah, I'd be a bit sad if I were to get to Dublin and the page of the Book of Kells wasn't one of the really cool illuminated ones, too.
Sep 10 18:42:44 <DesertRose>   I was trying to talk to several people at once about several different topics and mostly failing. :D
Sep 10 18:42:53 <drakensis>   good night
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Sep 10 18:42:57 <KK>   The whole quote reads: "If, of thy mortal goods, thou art bereft, And from thy slender store two loaves alone to thee are left, Sell one & from the dole, Buy Hyacinths to feed the soul"
Sep 10 18:43:05 <Jemler>   nite drakensis
Sep 10 18:43:20 <DesertRose>   My art history textbook had a photograph of the Chi Rho Iota page out of the Book of Kells, and my jaw dropped when  I saw the photograph alone.
Sep 10 18:43:40 <Shiral17>   On the good side, I  loved Dublin, and Holybrooke was pretty cool. As were the residents.
Sep 10 18:43:42 <DesertRose>   I can't imagine seeing it in person, even if it were under glass.  I'd be afraid to breathe on it, to b honest.
Sep 10 18:43:43 <DesertRose>   *be
Sep 10 18:43:53 <Shiral17>   And those little mints on the pillow...
Sep 10 18:43:56 <KK>   I used to have a facsimile copy of Book of Kells.  Some beautiful illos in it.
Sep 10 18:43:59 <DesertRose>   Shiral17, :D
Sep 10 18:44:18 <Evie>   I have a reproduction copy
Sep 10 18:45:17 <KK>   Well, good luck re the storm, Evie.  I thought of you as soon as they said it was coming your direction.  Stay dry and un-wind-damaged.
Sep 10 18:45:20 <The_Bee>   I don't even know what the Book of Kells is about.
Sep 10 18:45:22 <Jemler>
Sep 10 18:45:33 <Evie>   We used to have a little independent bookstore in town here that would let you put just a little money down on books--a $10 or $20, or whatever was in your pocket--and then take the book home and send the rest in a little at a time until it was paid off. I think that's one of the books I bought that way.
Sep 10 18:45:47 <Jemler>   it's the four gospels, in latin
Sep 10 18:45:52 <KK>   It's an illuminated book of biblical writings, very old and very beautiful.
Sep 10 18:46:05 <Jemler>
Sep 10 18:46:20 <The_Bee>   thanks, Jemler.  Douet version?
Sep 10 18:46:32 <DesertRose>   Probably earlier, Bee.
Sep 10 18:46:33 <KK>   Latin, Bee.
Sep 10 18:46:38 <DesertRose>   It dates from the 800s, IIRC.
Sep 10 18:46:41 <Evie>   We're on the side that is just expected to get some wind and rain, but not so bad as to qualify as a tropical storm. But the county just 10 minutes away is under a tropical storm warning, so knowing storms don't read maps, I will act as if we are under one too.
Sep 10 18:47:13 <Shiral17>   I hope   Irma doesn't hit Tallahassee too hard. My brother and SIL live there
Sep 10 18:47:13 <Eyikl>   Good call
Sep 10 18:47:27 <DesertRose>   :( Shiral17
Sep 10 18:47:35 <JudyWard>   It seems to be slowing down, doesn't it?
Sep 10 18:48:07 <Evie>   Yes, they usually slow down markedly once they make landfall, since the friction of going over land rather than warm water slows them down
Sep 10 18:48:08 <The_Bee>   which means it will stay in one place longer
Sep 10 18:48:22 <Evie>   I think it's down to a Cat 2 or 1 now
Sep 10 18:48:27 <Shiral17>   I don't know. Just watched a video of a storm chaser trying to WALK in it, and getting blown backward. I'd have to say Irma is ONE storm I'd be satisfied to NOT chase
Sep 10 18:48:32 <Jemler>
Sep 10 18:48:35 <Shiral17>   But I think that guy was in Miami
Sep 10 18:49:06 <Evie>   Mind, even a Cat 1 is nothing to be sneezed at
Sep 10 18:49:14 <Shiral17>   David (My Brother) is hoping it doesn't cross over and get reenergized by the gulf
Sep 10 18:49:17 <Eyikl>   So you'd chase the others, Sharial17?
Sep 10 18:49:22 <JudyWard>   Outer bands are way up in GA now.
Sep 10 18:49:24 <Shiral17>   No. I'm not nuts!
Sep 10 18:49:40 <Evie>   Yes, that would mightily suck, but since it is hugging the Florida coast, that is looking less likely now
Sep 10 18:50:08 <Shiral17>   I might point out the window and say "Look, there goes the storm!" But I'm not getting any closer to it than that
Sep 10 18:50:20 <DesertRose>   No, not even that, Shiral17.
Sep 10 18:50:37 <JudyWard>   Looks like most of FL is covered by the storm.
Sep 10 18:50:38 <DesertRose>   Because if you're staying put in a hurricane, your best bet is to cover your windows with boards nailed to the building.
Sep 10 18:50:50 <Shiral17>   Nope. This, in a nutshell is why I  live in Earthquake country!
Sep 10 18:50:53 <DesertRose>   See the poem on my Facebook about " 'Twas the Night Before Irma."
Sep 10 18:50:59 <Evie>   Not even getting near a window,thanks, since I'm seeing some of the damage done to the hurricane-rated windows on the news right now. Eek!
Sep 10 18:51:01 <Shiral17>   I don't cope well with either hurricanes OR tornadoes
Sep 10 18:51:32 <Evie>   And when there are hurricanes, you usually get hurricanes AND tornadoes, just to double your joy
Sep 10 18:52:04 <Shiral17>   Thanks, I'll stay out here in the smoky west
Sep 10 18:52:27 <KK>   I'm going to sign off now.  That new SF series starts tonight, and also the new season of Outlander on Starz.
Sep 10 18:52:37 <Evie>   Yeah, well, I'm also a huge fan of not burning, not choking on smoky air, and the ground not moving under me. :-D
Sep 10 18:52:38 <Shiral17>   Night, KK. Have a good week
Sep 10 18:52:38 <DesertRose>   Okay, g'night, KK!  Thanks for coming to see us!
Sep 10 18:52:47 <Evie>   Goodnight, KK!
Sep 10 18:52:52 <JudyWard>   Every place has some kind of unpleasant weather or phenomena.
Sep 10 18:52:53 <Eyikl>   Goodnight KK
Sep 10 18:53:01 <Shiral17>   I'm going to go downstairs and cool off  it's hot here today
Sep 10 18:53:05 *   KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
Sep 10 18:53:07 <DesertRose>   Yup, everyone has to deal with some sort of natural disaster.
Sep 10 18:53:07 <JudyWard>   Good night, KK.
Sep 10 18:53:07 <Jemler>   it's getting chillier her in ohio. temps in the 40s at night.
Sep 10 18:53:11 <The_Bee>   nighters, KK have a good week and thanks for coming.  new SF series?
Sep 10 18:53:14 <Jemler>   nite kk
Sep 10 18:53:32 *   Shiral17 steps onto her portal and disappears in a purple funnel cloud
Sep 10 18:53:48 <Evie>   Chillier here too. Not that chilly yet, but in the next couple of days our highs will be in the high 60s and our lows in the low 50s, I think
Sep 10 18:53:48 <DesertRose>   A purple funnel cloud would be interesting to see.
Sep 10 18:53:54 <JudyWard>   I don't want to live anywhere with constant danger of wildfires.
Sep 10 18:53:54 <Eyikl>   goodnight Shiral
Sep 10 18:53:58 <DesertRose>   From a SERIOUSLY far distance or on video.
Sep 10 18:54:04 <Shiral17>   Bye!
Sep 10 18:54:05 <JudyWard>   Bye, Shiral.
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Sep 10 18:54:12 <The_Bee>   bye shiral
Sep 10 18:54:17 <DesertRose>   Well I missed her.
Sep 10 18:54:18 <DesertRose>   Drat
Sep 10 18:54:22 *   Jemler steps onto his portal and disappers with a flushing sound!
Sep 10 18:54:40 <JudyWard>   My goodness! A mass exodus!
Sep 10 18:54:40 *   DesertRose smacks Jemler with a Chesapeake Bay soft-shell crab.
Sep 10 18:54:41 <KK>   Oh, forgot to tell you guys that we came back from Dragoncon on Monday to discover that Penelope, our 17-year-old cat, had gone into renal failure; so Tuesday I had to take her to the vet and send her to the Rainbow Bridge.  Very sad, but she had good innings for a cat, and we gave her an extra 6 months of quality life by having her teeth cleaned back in March.
Sep 10 18:54:41 <The_Bee>   LOL jemler
Sep 10 18:55:00 <Evie>   There was a tornado in Miami this morning that was a really cool shape that I might have appreciated a lot more if it wasn't so close to a major populated area. It was a very thin serpentine one that coiled at the top to merge into the rotation of the hurricane
Sep 10 18:55:02 <DesertRose>   Aw, poor Penelope, and I'm sorry for your loss.
Sep 10 18:55:07 <Jemler>   sorry to her that kk
Sep 10 18:55:08 <JudyWard>   Oh, so sorry to hear that, KK!
Sep 10 18:55:18 <The_Bee>   poor Penelope
Sep 10 18:55:21 <Evie>   So sorry, KK!
Sep 10 18:55:22 <Eyikl>   poor Penelope.
Sep 10 18:55:23 <DesertRose>   Seventeen is a good long life for a cat, but still sad.
Sep 10 18:55:33 <KK>   On Fox, Bee.  Sounds a bit like Star Trek, at 8 PM here.
Sep 10 18:55:47 <The_Bee>   Orville?
Sep 10 18:55:57 <JudyWard>   Always hurts, no matter how long a life they have.
Sep 10 18:56:47 <KK>   Also, I assume that you guys heard that Jerry Pournelle passed on Friday.  We'd seen him at Dragoncon--he and his son and Larry Niven were at our table at the baquet.  He was 84.  Apparently he picked up some kind of cold or flu.
Sep 10 18:56:57 <DesertRose>   I saw that, yeah, KK
Sep 10 18:56:58 <KK>   Yes, Bee.
Sep 10 18:57:01 <Evie>   :-(
Sep 10 18:57:12 <DesertRose>   :'(
Sep 10 18:57:25 <The_Bee>   :(
Sep 10 18:57:31 <KK>   OK, now I'm out of here for real.  See you next week.  And everyone, stay safe.
Sep 10 18:57:37 <Evie>   Goodnight!
Sep 10 18:57:43 <KK>   Nighters.
Sep 10 18:57:46 <The_Bee>   you too
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"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)


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