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Offline btuey

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Jehana question
« on: February 04, 2017, 06:13:50 pm »
First of all, I apologize in advance if this has been asked before. Having been re-reading the series and the Codex it startles me as odd that Jehana would not have known of her Deryni heritage with her father being a well-known Deryni as were his male-relatives before him. Coupled with that, we have Jehana's relationship to Lewys ap Norfal, another well-known Deryni mage. Any thoughts as to how she was kept in the dark? Especially considering Deryni as a race did not undergo the persecutions in the south that were common in the northern kingdoms. 

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Re: Jehana question
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 02:47:49 am »
In TKD we are given a glimpse of the austere nuns who were responsible for Jehana's education, most likely from a very young age. She probably did not have much in the way of close contact with her parents as a young child to counteract this indoctrination, and they would have been happy that her moral purity was being ensured, maybe accepting the anti-Deryni slant as unfortunate but not overly important. Especially if her father already had an eye on Brion as a lightly suitor.

I wonder too whether it is not so much the case that Jehana did not know but that she was in denial. Her reaction to any hint of Deryni influence is extreme even at the beginning of her marriage to Brion, although I also wonder whether just plain old jealousy of Brion and Morgan's friendship was at the root of much of her hatred and found a good justification in a "godly" fear of Deryni.
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Re: Jehana question
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 03:44:49 am »
I don't recall any mention of Jehana's father King Meyric being Deryni although it's not impossible that he was although it's not implausible that it was a maternal inheritance: Meyric had inherited the throne from his brother and they were sons to the (at least) third son of King Joscerand, with two of their uncles reigning but lacking living direct heirs, so Meyric and/or his father could have married Deryni without it being such a huge scandal.

She's mentioned as a 'great grand niece' of Lewys ap Norfal which is a fairly distant relationship as such things go. Lewys was from Joux, as I recall but I'm not sure that the exact kinship has ever been laid out.

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Re: Jehana question
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 01:04:31 am »
She's mentioned as a 'great grand niece' of Lewys ap Norfal which is a fairly distant relationship as such things go. Lewys was from Joux, as I recall but I'm not sure that the exact kinship has ever been laid out.

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Regnier I Buyenne-Furstan -- Jolanthe d'Alberic
+ Lewis ap Norfal (not his birth name!)
+ Countess Murielle du Joux -- Tiraquell Sieur de Jordanet
    + Lady Jordana -- Isarn I Prince of Logreine
      + Princess Rosaura -- King Meyric II of Bremagne
        + Jehana


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« Last Edit: February 25, 2017, 10:51:16 am by lenni »

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Re: Jehana question
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 01:42:29 am »
Thanks.

Oh, and a Furstan. They really are to blame for everything, aren't they?

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Re: Jehana question
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 07:23:56 am »
Thanks.

Oh, and a Furstan. They really are to blame for everything, aren't they?

Quite a nest of snakes, the whole family. 

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Re: Jehana question
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2017, 12:58:18 am »
To be fair, I suppose that they're also responsible for long ago Deryni blood in the Haldane family, and Alaric Morgan's Deryni bloodline is originally derived from the Furstans as well. Royal and noble bloodlines being what they were...

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Re: Jehana question
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2017, 11:12:14 am »
Liam and Matyas were pretty decent fellows.  :)

 

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