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KK Chat -- 3 July 2016 (Happy Independence Day--almost!)
« on: July 03, 2016, 06:44:32 pm »
Jul 03 17:58:47 *   KK has joined
Jul 03 17:58:54 <The_Bee>   Hi KK
Jul 03 17:58:56 <Evie>   Hi, KK!
Jul 03 17:58:58 <revanne>   It doesn't seem to help their football any though.
Jul 03 17:59:01 <Eyikl>   hi KK
Jul 03 17:59:02 <revanne>   Hi KK
Jul 03 17:59:07 <drakensis>   hi KK
Jul 03 17:59:13 <The_Bee>   We were afraid you couldn't make it.
Jul 03 17:59:31 <Eyikl>   or had ended up in some other chat
Jul 03 17:59:45 <KK>   Sorry, sorry!  I was sitting there, calmly having a cup of tea with my hubby, and suddenly realized I should have been here at 5!
Jul 03 17:59:53 <Evie>   LOL!
Jul 03 18:00:02 <Evie>   I tried to text you, but I guess you didn't hear it come in
Jul 03 18:00:10 <DesertRose>   Hi KK!
Jul 03 18:00:32 <Derynifank>   Hi KK
Jul 03 18:00:41 <DesertRose>   Better late than never.  :)
Jul 03 18:01:05 <KK>   Yep, I heard the text, but was busy doing something else and just ignored it.  Mea culpa!
Jul 03 18:01:19 <Evie>   We've just been discussing what Modern Gwynedd's flag might look like, since I figured it would probably be different from the Royal Haldane coat of arms, although it might incorporate them somehow.
Jul 03 18:01:20 <DesertRose>   No worries.  You're here now.
Jul 03 18:01:49 <drakensis>   if Saint Camber had a cross, it would probably feature. although I don't recall him having one
Jul 03 18:02:19 <Evie>   For that matter, is there a Kingdom of Gwynedd heraldic banner that medieval armies might have used in battle that would be different from Kelson's personal arms?
Jul 03 18:02:30 <Evie>   Or some sort of a badge, perhaps?
Jul 03 18:02:30 <revanne>   If it's like the UK there would be two separate flags - the modern country flag and the royal standard which presumably would be the Haldane Lion.
Jul 03 18:03:18 <DesertRose>   Oh, that explains much, revanne!
Jul 03 18:04:21 <revanne>   The royal standard only flies when the monarch is personally present.
Jul 03 18:04:24 *   JastaElf (Mibbit@32F4F9.2CBB6F.9E1D07.D2557A) has joined
Jul 03 18:04:28 <DesertRose>   Hi JastaElf!
Jul 03 18:04:29 <Evie>   Hi Jasta!
Jul 03 18:04:34 <JastaElf>   *waves hi*
Jul 03 18:04:37 <revanne>   hi
Jul 03 18:04:39 <The_Bee>   Jasta! long time no see!
Jul 03 18:04:39 <Eyikl>   hi JastaElf
Jul 03 18:04:52 <Evie>   Squee!  The Duncan Fanbabes are slowly taking over!
Jul 03 18:04:59 <KK>   Hadn't really thought about it.  Certainly, the Haldane banner would have become the Sovereign's Standard, as in present England.  A national flag might incorporate some of the badges of the great families that have married into the royal line, perhaps.
Jul 03 18:05:04 <JastaElf>   <3 Sorry I've been gone so long, I kind of lost myself.  :)
Jul 03 18:05:21 <revanne>   life gets in the way
Jul 03 18:05:23 <KK>   Hello, Jasta!  Are you up north,or in Virginia this weekend?
Jul 03 18:05:32 <The_Bee>   Have you found yourself now, JastaElf?
Jul 03 18:05:47 <Evie>   I've found you. You're right there.
Jul 03 18:05:48 <JastaElf>   <3 Hi Katherine--I'm in NH at the moment, got back from VA at 1300
Jul 03 18:05:54 <DesertRose>   I'm lost.  I've gone to look for myself.  If I should return before I get back, please ask me to wait.  ;)
Jul 03 18:06:25 <JastaElf>   Hope everyone's well?
Jul 03 18:06:39 <jemler>   hi kk, jasta, kelric. sorry i got sidetracked.
Jul 03 18:06:53 <JastaElf>   Hi, jemler!  How are you doing?
Jul 03 18:06:58 <The_Bee>   doing okay here.
Jul 03 18:07:08 <jemler>   not too bad. you?
Jul 03 18:07:18 <JastaElf>   :) Alive
Jul 03 18:07:29 <DesertRose>   I had a question for you, JastaElf.  In the Fur Kids section of the gallery, you posted pics of your horse, Jasper, and of your kitty, Thranduil, but don't you also have another kitty named Fenway?  I don't see any photos of Fenway in the gallery.
Jul 03 18:07:40 <Evie>   Alive is good.  Dead people don't have much to say in chat.
Jul 03 18:07:49 <The_Bee>   Where do you call home now, Jasta?
Jul 03 18:07:53 <DesertRose>   Alive can be difficult but does beat the alternative.
Jul 03 18:08:03 <JastaElf>   OMG did I not put him in there?  I do have another kitty, his name is Fenway!  I shall have to fix that.  :)
Jul 03 18:08:14 <DesertRose>   Nope.  No Fenway photos.
Jul 03 18:08:20 <The_Bee>   Are you a Red Sox fan?
Jul 03 18:08:27 <JastaElf>   Bee, I'm officially back in Virginia but am prepping Yet Another House to sell.  Oy.
Jul 03 18:08:40 <DesertRose>   I think there were two of Thranduil, one of Jasper, but no Fenway pic.
Jul 03 18:08:43 <JastaElf>   *snrt, giggle*  Is the Holy Father Catholic? 
Jul 03 18:08:50 <DesertRose>   ROFL
Jul 03 18:08:58 <jemler>   i'll be quiet the,. according to our Alumni Assoc, i died some time ago.
Jul 03 18:09:24 <Evie>   LOL, yeah, I saw that on Facebook, jemler!  Rumors of your death are greatly exaggerated, I take it?
Jul 03 18:09:28 <The_Bee>   Really?? :s
Jul 03 18:09:31 <Eyikl>   I went to Fenway once and saw a lovely soccer game.
Jul 03 18:09:33 <JastaElf>   OMG srsly, jemler?  Did you set them straight?
Jul 03 18:09:40 <revanne>   I'm sure you won't let a little thing like that stop you, Jemler.
Jul 03 18:09:46 <JastaElf>   Fenway is where God goes for vacation.  <3
Jul 03 18:09:55 <Evie>   You're pretty spry for a dead guy, I have to say.
Jul 03 18:10:12 <jemler>   yes. my cousin john allen emler, died about 10 yrs ago. thje Alumni Assoc. assumed it was me.
Jul 03 18:10:26 <The_Bee>   OOOPS!
Jul 03 18:11:14 <The_Bee>   Have you received any solicitations to contribute to a memorial fund in your honor?
Jul 03 18:11:18 <Evie>   That could cause some interesting reactions if you go back for a class reunion
Jul 03 18:11:22 <JastaElf>   lol!
Jul 03 18:11:29 <revanne>   LOL
Jul 03 18:12:09 <Derynifank>   Tell them not to call ghostbusters
Jul 03 18:12:09 <jemler>   we had one yesterday! an all-class reunion. earliest year, in the 1930's.
Jul 03 18:12:26 <jemler>   i was in the parade with my class.
Jul 03 18:12:30 <Evie>   Wow!  Anyone show up from that class?
Jul 03 18:12:37 <Evie>   the 1930s one, I mean
Jul 03 18:13:17 <jemler>   my nephew knows, i'll have to ask. i was in 1981. someone took a pic of me and posted on FB.
Jul 03 18:13:34 <Evie>   My dad's graduating class has a yearly reunion, or at least the surviving members do.  There were only 21 graduates in that class to begin with, so it's a very small reunion.  They usually schedule an annual dinner out for whoever can make it.
Jul 03 18:14:19 <DesertRose>   Sorry I went quiet there.  Cat shenanigans that I had to investigate.
Jul 03 18:14:43 <Evie>   I went to it once, back when I was in high school, and they had lots of fun informing me of how my Dad managed to earn the title of Class Clown in the senior yearbook.
Jul 03 18:14:55 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 18:15:12 <KK>   I've never had any great desire to go back.  Wasn't that close with many of my classmates even then, and would probably have even less in common now.
Jul 03 18:15:17 <DesertRose>   I went with my mom to her 25th reunion, and I had complete strangers (to me) walking up to me asking if I were her daughter.
Jul 03 18:15:45 <revanne>   Me neither KK
Jul 03 18:15:47 <DesertRose>   No, Mom didn't clone herself or anything.  Not THIS family.  :innocent look that fails miserably:
Jul 03 18:15:48 <jemler>   i missed my senior year. i needed surgery and the doctors ordered me not to go. i had tutors.
Jul 03 18:15:51 <Evie>   Well, that's because the women in your family are clones, DR
Jul 03 18:15:55 <DesertRose>   We are.
Jul 03 18:15:57 <The_Bee>   I've been to Classmates.com, but I have to pay to see who's checking up on me.
Jul 03 18:16:28 <Evie>   That sounds like a whole lot of not fun, jemler.  :-(
Jul 03 18:16:29 <The_Bee>   no desire to attend reunions
Jul 03 18:16:50 <JastaElf>   Most of my HS class is on Facebook; we've gotten fairly close, after not so much in HS.  lol
Jul 03 18:16:53 <DesertRose>   I didn't go to my tenth reunion but I went to my 20th and actually had a lot of fun.  I hung out mostly with people I barely knew back in the day (with one exception, my close friends from those years didn't make it to the reunion), but it was fun.
Jul 03 18:17:02 <revanne>   I've been invited back to a few things but never gone - I keep in touch with a few folk at Christmas and am happy leaving it at that.
Jul 03 18:18:11 <Evie>   I've been to a few, but missed the last two, I think.  Our class just has reunions every five years, so I've got four more years to wait for the next one
Jul 03 18:18:18 <DesertRose>   I didn't hear about the 10th until I'd already made plans for an interstate move that weekend.
Jul 03 18:18:34 <DesertRose>   But at that point in my life, I was still in a place of "Nah, dun wanna" about it.
Jul 03 18:19:03 <DesertRose>   So I probably wouldn't have gone anyway, even if I hadn't been moving.
Jul 03 18:19:22 <Evie>   The last one I went to, I kept looking around thinking "Who are all these middle aged people?"  ;-)
Jul 03 18:19:29 <revanne>   LOL
Jul 03 18:19:30 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 18:19:44 <drakensis>   I don't think I've ever gone to a class reunion. the school's inconvenient to get to by public transport and I don't have a car
Jul 03 18:20:32 <DesertRose>   Only one of the people I really disliked in high school was at the 20th reunion, and given that about 1/4 of the class showed up, most with a +1, it was fairly easy to avoid him.  Maybe he grew up and mellowed out and became less of a jerk, but I didn't care to find out, really.
Jul 03 18:20:55 <Evie>   We usually have ours either at some rented conference venue, or (when a lot of people had small children) we rented a park for a day and did a picnic cookout
Jul 03 18:21:11 <DesertRose>   And my class was over 400 people, so 1/4 of the class is a fair crowd.
Jul 03 18:21:20 <The_Bee>   I have one FB friend from my high school class, but that's because he was also my next-door neighbor.
Jul 03 18:21:25 <KK>   I know.  I was looking at pictures of the Old Timers' gathering at the 50-year for the SCA, and I could only recognize about 2 or 3 out of several dozen--and they were all movers and shakers at the time I was active.  Of course, that was long ago and far away.
Jul 03 18:21:48 <DesertRose>   Some people change a lot with time and some don't.
Jul 03 18:21:48 <Evie>   DH had a blast at the SCA 50th Year Celebration
Jul 03 18:21:57 <The_Bee>   nearly 600 in m ine.  I was one of the top 3 in grades.
Jul 03 18:22:15 <revanne>   Great.
Jul 03 18:22:25 <Evie>   He brought home lots of photos
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Jul 03 18:22:32 <KK>   This was the 50-year for Western Beltane Coronation, in the Bay Area.
Jul 03 18:22:41 <revanne>   mibbit strikes again.
Jul 03 18:22:46 <JastaElf>   And for the SCA!
Jul 03 18:22:51 <DesertRose>   I appear to be one of the ones in the "don't change much" category.  I reconnected with an elementary school friend I've not seen in person in probably nigh on thirty years, and she said she'd know me anywhere.
Jul 03 18:23:12 <Eyikl>   The SCA strikes again?
Jul 03 18:23:16 <JastaElf>   There was an apparently wonderful huge week-long event to celebrate the founding of the SCA in Diana's yard.  :)
Jul 03 18:23:32 <Eyikl>   oh. cool.
Jul 03 18:23:35 <Evie>   Yes, my DH just returned from that.  It was up in Indiana
Jul 03 18:23:52 <The_Bee>   I tried to find one classmate online, but no luck
Jul 03 18:23:55 <Evie>   And she was there to read the original invitation aloud
Jul 03 18:24:04 *   Derynifank (Mibbit@OWIRCN-8745c00e.hr.cox.net) has joined
Jul 03 18:24:10 <DesertRose>   I wish I could have gone to 50th Year.
Jul 03 18:24:11 <JastaElf>   I had wanted to make some small part of it, but couldn't--and missed a wonderful conference on historical clothing at Jamestown.  :(
Jul 03 18:24:11 <Evie>   rehi Derynifank
Jul 03 18:24:13 <The_Bee>   rehi, DFK
Jul 03 18:24:15 <DesertRose>   Rehi Derynifank
Jul 03 18:24:24 <KK>   I think I would have liked that.  But it's been so long since I went to an event....  Not sure I could even put together suitable garb without doing some sewing.
Jul 03 18:24:26 <JastaElf>   WB Derynifank!
Jul 03 18:24:27 <Evie>   Oh dear, Jasta!  That sounds fun too
Jul 03 18:24:40 <Derynifank>   Reno
Jul 03 18:24:41 <DesertRose>   DD and I tried to sort out a way to make it work, and we just couldn't figure out a way to do it.
Jul 03 18:24:41 <JastaElf>   I probably have garb that would fit you, KK.  :)
Jul 03 18:24:43 <revanne>   sorry going to have to call it a night before I turn into a pumpkin.
Jul 03 18:24:55 <DesertRose>   It also would have involved her missing class, which was a no-go.
Jul 03 18:24:59 <Evie>   Goodnight, revanne!
Jul 03 18:25:00 <DesertRose>   G'night, then, revanne!
Jul 03 18:25:07 <The_Bee>   nighter, revanne.  glad you got to meet KK
Jul 03 18:25:08 <JastaElf>   Goodnight, revanne!
Jul 03 18:25:11 <KK>   Pumpkin on, Revanne.  Have a good week.
Jul 03 18:25:33 <Eyikl>   night Revanne
Jul 03 18:25:45 *   DesertRose paints a jack-o-lantern face on revanne.
Jul 03 18:25:50 <The_Bee>   glad you came, revanne
Jul 03 18:25:51 <JastaElf>   lol
Jul 03 18:25:57 <Evie>   LOL
Jul 03 18:26:10 *   Evie opens up revanne's mouth to put a candle inside
Jul 03 18:26:11 <revanne>   thanks, night all.
Jul 03 18:26:16 <DesertRose>   NO!
Jul 03 18:26:22 <Evie>   But...but....
Jul 03 18:26:25 <DesertRose>   I didn't carve her!  I painted her!
Jul 03 18:26:31 <Evie>   Should I take the top of her head off?
Jul 03 18:26:34 <Derynifank>   Have to go get ready for concert. Hope everyone has a good week. Night all
Jul 03 18:26:34 <DesertRose>   No!
Jul 03 18:26:34 <KK>   Actually, I could do a reprise of what I wore when a lot of us met up for the Pennsylvania RenFaire a few years ago.  That was the last time we saw Susan Werner.  Miss her.
Jul 03 18:26:35 <Eyikl>   no
Jul 03 18:26:36 <Evie>   Oh.  Well, darn.
Jul 03 18:26:46 <Evie>   Goodnight, Derynifank
Jul 03 18:26:55 <DesertRose>   Okay, take care, Derynifank.  Have a good night and a good week!
Jul 03 18:26:57 <The_Bee>   bye, derynifank
Jul 03 18:27:10 <Eyikl>   night Dernifank
Jul 03 18:27:10 <revanne>   Thank you Evie, but life in the UK is quite exciting enough at the moment without being carved up personally and set alight!
Jul 03 18:27:26 <DesertRose>   That was why the paint.  Paint can be washed off!
Jul 03 18:27:26 <KK>   You guys and your Brexit....
Jul 03 18:27:36 <Evie>   well, if you change your mind, let me know, revanne
Jul 03 18:27:41 <drakensis>   a lot of fuss and bother that,
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Jul 03 18:27:59 <revanne>   :)
Jul 03 18:28:09 <Evie>   What's the use of a lovely nickname like Evie the Impaler if I can't use it?
Jul 03 18:28:27 <DesertRose>   It is supposed to apply to dolls, not chatters!
Jul 03 18:28:27 <Evie>   I mean, really!
Jul 03 18:28:29 <Eyikl>   who gave you that nickname?
Jul 03 18:28:33 <revanne>   knowing Evie's propensity to remove heads beats a hasty retreat!
Jul 03 18:28:42 <DesertRose>   Poor revanne!
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Jul 03 18:28:51 <Evie>   Pretty much everyone who has seen me put doll heads on p/i/k/e/s/ dowels
Jul 03 18:29:44 <Evie>   I have several decaptitated and recapitated dolls in my craft room this moment!
Jul 03 18:29:52 <Evie>   Decapitated, even. 
Jul 03 18:30:49 <KK>   Recapitated.  I like that.
Jul 03 18:30:57 <Evie>   So do they.  :-D
Jul 03 18:31:00 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 18:31:08 <DesertRose>   Hey, if you know what she meant, it's a word.
Jul 03 18:31:09 <DesertRose>   :)
Jul 03 18:31:18 <jemler>   Frankenevie!
Jul 03 18:31:25 <Evie>   Muahaha
Jul 03 18:31:40 <drakensis>   I'm not entirely sure it's an approved Healer procedure.
Jul 03 18:31:44 <KK>   What have the Littles been up to this week?  Along with your job-hunting.  Any progress there?
Jul 03 18:32:26 <Evie>   Have been playing more with my modern Deryni this week, since I have some very modern fabrics I need to use and can't very well make medieval gowns and tunics from, but am still mentally planning the Rhemuth Castle decoration
Jul 03 18:33:19 <Evie>   http://www.rhemuthcastle.com/index.php/topic,844.msg15439.html#new for this week's progress, but alas, only one of the figures featured in this report is from the canonical books. But if you want to see my take on Jass MacArdry, he's in there.
Jul 03 18:33:44 <Evie>   Otherwise, the rest are very distant great-great-mumble-something-grandchildren of canonical characters.
Jul 03 18:34:11 <jemler>   DR, if you follow this loink, it'll tell you how to peel peaches: http://localfoods.about.com/od/summer/ss/PeelPeach.htm
Jul 03 18:34:12 <Evie>   I couldn't very well see fitting a modern kitchen into the castle build, never mind how much Kelson's chef would love it.  :-D
Jul 03 18:34:41 <JastaElf>   There, Fenway pics posted and approved.  :)
Jul 03 18:34:42 <DesertRose>   You sent me that link earlier, jemler, and I've got it.  I'll use it tomorrow so I can peel my peaches for the planned cobbler.
Jul 03 18:34:49 <DesertRose>   Yay!  Kitty pics!
Jul 03 18:34:50 <jemler>   gas, electric or convection?
Jul 03 18:34:51 <Evie>   A loink to peeling peaches sounds like something you'd use to learn how to peel peaches for pigs
Jul 03 18:34:51 <JastaElf>   Cobbler, yum....
Jul 03 18:35:02 <jemler>   ok, great.
Jul 03 18:35:09 <Evie>   Electric.  Battery powered. The little burners light up.  :-D
Jul 03 18:35:26 <JastaElf>   For a moment I thought you meant cats.  Convection cats.  :D
Jul 03 18:35:32 <Evie>   LOL!
Jul 03 18:35:42 <Evie>   Better than gassy cats!
Jul 03 18:35:45 <jemler>   kelsons chef with an easy-bake oven. just imagine...
Jul 03 18:35:46 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 18:36:03 <DesertRose>   I know some cats who are wired for sound, so that covers the electric cats.
Jul 03 18:36:16 <Evie>   Well, the stove doesn't actually work, which is good given that it's just thin plastic
Jul 03 18:36:16 <DesertRose>   I'm not sure how you'd come up with convection cats, though.  :)
Jul 03 18:37:36 <Evie>   I need to buy a 3/4 inch dowel next time I'm at the store so I can cut it into short bits, paint them silver, and put labels on them for canned goods for the pantry
Jul 03 18:38:10 <Evie>   1/2 inch could work too for variety in diameters
Jul 03 18:38:38 <DesertRose>   I was thinking, "Would Queen Sophia's kitchen HAVE baked goods?" but then I thought, "The royal kitchens might or might not, but Patrick and Eilonwy's likely would."
Jul 03 18:38:45 <DesertRose>   *canned, not baked.
Jul 03 18:38:49 <DesertRose>   Where is my brain?
Jul 03 18:38:58 <Eyikl>   Don't cats convect heat into things aready?
Jul 03 18:39:05 <Evie>   Hopefully in your skull, otherwise there's a problem
Jul 03 18:39:11 <DesertRose>   One would hope.
Jul 03 18:39:17 <DesertRose>   It is apparently malfunctioning, though.
Jul 03 18:39:19 <jemler>   we could ask Spock?
Jul 03 18:39:36 <Evie>   I could check on that for you. The pumpkin carving tools are just a room away
Jul 03 18:39:38 <The_Bee>   Mistger or Doctor Spock?
Jul 03 18:39:40 <DesertRose>   NO!
Jul 03 18:39:53 <DesertRose>   Ahem.
Jul 03 18:39:55 <JastaElf>   No checking my skull, either.  :)
Jul 03 18:39:56 <DesertRose>   No thank you.
Jul 03 18:40:13 <Evie>   My favorite line from that otherwise dire episode, "Spock's Brain":  "The thief that took it has the knowledge."  Well, duh!
Jul 03 18:40:16 <Eyikl>   Spock from Star Trek?
Jul 03 18:40:20 <Evie>   Yes
Jul 03 18:40:46 <DesertRose>   An entry for the No [Bleep], Sherlock Files.
Jul 03 18:41:08 <Evie>   And I think the line referred to the thief having the knowledge of how to replace Spock's brain, but taken out of context, it was a bit of a ...um...no-brainer.  :-D
Jul 03 18:41:13 *   Evie hides from DR
Jul 03 18:41:41 <JastaElf>   lol...
Jul 03 18:41:46 <Evie>   :-D
Jul 03 18:41:47 *   DesertRose tosses Carys' little sisal-rope fish toy at Evie and then munches on popcorn as Carys follows the flying cat toy.
Jul 03 18:42:09 <Evie>   LOL!  I'd rather you toss me some popcorn and munch on the fish toy, but that's up to you, I guess.
Jul 03 18:42:17 *   jemler throws a mackeral at Evie
Jul 03 18:42:22 <JastaElf>   I just finished binge-watching BBC Sherlock on Netflix.  I adore that show. 
Jul 03 18:42:28 <Evie>   Oh yes!
Jul 03 18:42:46 <DesertRose>   Well, I had to throw a fish, so I threw the fish-shaped cat toy, and then decided that Carys' reaction to the fish toy being thrown would be popcorn-worthy.
Jul 03 18:42:49 <The_Bee>   Who plays Sherlock and Watson?
Jul 03 18:43:03 <DesertRose>   Sherlock is played by Benedict Cumberbatch and Watson by Martin Freeman.
Jul 03 18:43:09 <JastaElf>   Benedict Cumberbatch is Sherlock, Martin Freeman is Watson, and they're amazing.  <3
Jul 03 18:43:18 <Kelric>   oh.  didn't realize it was chat time ^_^
Jul 03 18:43:18 <Evie>   Except that when we went to see the Hobbit movie and Bilbo met Smaug, my daughter nearly made me laugh out loud by whispering, "Don't eat Watson!"
Jul 03 18:43:24 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 18:43:27 <JastaElf>   LOL!!
Jul 03 18:43:33 <Kelric>   I just got home from an early dinner so :P
Jul 03 18:43:35 <DesertRose>   Early chat, Kelric.  First Sunday.
Jul 03 18:43:37 <The_Bee>   thanks.  That was a fairly recent version wasn't it?
Jul 03 18:43:45 <Evie>   Yes
Jul 03 18:43:55 <JastaElf>   Yup!  It's sort of in production now for the next season.
Jul 03 18:43:56 <Evie>   Fairly recent, anyway
Jul 03 18:44:03 <JastaElf>   I wish they'd hurry!!
Jul 03 18:44:04 <DesertRose>   Yes, and the series is technically still in production but working around everyone's schedules is...challenging.
Jul 03 18:44:10 <JastaElf>   Yup.
Jul 03 18:44:33 <Kelric>   that being said.  I am so far behind in my keeping track on where KK is in her writing on books so I don't remember where we are in books.
Jul 03 18:44:54 <JastaElf>   Benedict's real parents play the Holmes parents, and Mark Gatiss is a brilliant Mycroft.  :)
Jul 03 18:45:00 <DesertRose>   The most recent publication was "The King's Deryni," Kelric.
Jul 03 18:45:03 <Kelric>   I need to find out for myself and the friend I'm trying to get hooked into both major series.
Jul 03 18:45:08 <jemler>   we just read The Kings Deryni.
Jul 03 18:45:09 <Evie>   We're back in time to the Battle of Killingford now, Kelric.  Which reminds me, any writing started on that yet, KK?
Jul 03 18:45:10 <The_Bee>   That's right!  We haven't asked KK about her writing today.
Jul 03 18:45:12 <Kelric>   That's what CM 2 or CM 3?
Jul 03 18:45:15 <DesertRose>   CM 3
Jul 03 18:45:29 <Kelric>   ok.  I'm DEFINITELY behind.  I think I remember finishing CM1 at some point.
Jul 03 18:45:32 <DesertRose>   The next one planned is tentatively titled Road to Killingford.
Jul 03 18:45:44 <DesertRose>   CM 2 was called Childe Morgan.
Jul 03 18:45:52 <Kelric>   so we're definitely still in the era of Brion then.
Jul 03 18:45:53 <DesertRose>   CM 1 was In the King's Service.
Jul 03 18:45:57 <DesertRose>   Oh yes
Jul 03 18:45:59 *   Evie wonders if we've lost KK to the perusal of doll photos.  :-D
Jul 03 18:46:02 <Kelric>   yeah. I have ITKS in the basement
Jul 03 18:46:33 <JastaElf>   *still loves Nigel <3
Jul 03 18:46:40 <Evie>   Yes, we've wrapped up the trilogy set in Brion's time, and KK is starting a new book in the year 9...um...948?  Nine-Mumble-SOmething?
Jul 03 18:46:41 <Kelric>   that being said,  has there been any thought into TA6? ;)
Jul 03 18:46:47 <DesertRose>   If you have Kindle access, The Bishop's Heir is on special for 1.99 this month.
Jul 03 18:46:47 <KK>   No, I'm here.
Jul 03 18:46:57 <drakensis>   Killingford was 1025 IIRC
Jul 03 18:47:05 <DesertRose>   drakensis beat me to it.  :)
Jul 03 18:47:09 <KK>   1025
Jul 03 18:47:12 <drakensis>   well I should know
Jul 03 18:47:13 <Evie>   Oh, that's right, the 948 book is in my wistful dreams
Jul 03 18:47:16 <Kelric>   yeah.  That is going to be an interesting one,  so many people died in 1025
Jul 03 18:47:27 <DesertRose>   1.99 US$, that is.
Jul 03 18:47:47 <jemler>   948 is when most of the good guys died, queron, joram, ansel.
Jul 03 18:47:57 <The_Bee>   Remind me--in what year do the Camber books begin?
Jul 03 18:48:04 <Eyikl>   903
Jul 03 18:48:10 <Evie>   And sadly I think that's a US only offer, since revanne mentioned to me recently that Amazon.UK doesn't carry the Deryni ebooks yet
Jul 03 18:48:20 <DesertRose>   Well, that's phooey on Amazon.UK.
Jul 03 18:48:49 <DesertRose>   In 948, we also lost a reigning king, but I can't remember his name.  Owain?
Jul 03 18:48:55 <Evie>   I pointed her to the ebook publisher's website, since it carries other formats, so hopefully at least one will be accessible from the UK
Jul 03 18:48:57 <Kelric>   Yeah it was Owain
Jul 03 18:49:25 <DesertRose>   Okay, maybe the ol' brain is malfunctioning less badly than I had estimated.  :P
Jul 03 18:49:36 <JastaElf>   BRB have to check on dinner
Jul 03 18:49:40 <DesertRose>   Okay
Jul 03 18:49:44 <DesertRose>   No burning the kitchen!
Jul 03 18:49:44 <Evie>   Bring me some, Jasta
Jul 03 18:49:55 <DesertRose>   I thought your DH was cooking, Evie
Jul 03 18:49:56 <DesertRose>   ?
Jul 03 18:50:12 <Evie>   No, he's still cool
Jul 03 18:50:39 <Kelric>   My plan for this friend of mine is to give her a full set of the classic books (Kelson 1/2, Camber 1/2, KKB) and a copy of Codex 2.
Jul 03 18:50:40 <DesertRose>   Does not compute?  Mmrr?
Jul 03 18:50:49 <Evie>   I haven't burned him on a stake or anything yet
Jul 03 18:50:54 <DesertRose>   Ah, LOL
Jul 03 18:51:00 <DesertRose>   I meant supper! :P
Jul 03 18:51:15 <Evie>   He did some cooking prep, but not sure if he's actually cooking something or just preparing ingredients to use later
Jul 03 18:51:23 <DesertRose>   Oh, well phooey.
Jul 03 18:51:42 <Evie>   We have a corned beef brisket thawing, but that will have to wait for tomorrow to go in the crock pot
Jul 03 18:51:49 <DesertRose>   No burning of the DH.
Jul 03 18:51:53 <Evie>   So the veggies might have been for that
Jul 03 18:51:58 <DesertRose>   Ah, I see.
Jul 03 18:52:37 <DesertRose>   Remember, even when he makes you really, really angry, "It's not worth going to prison" is what you have to chant.
Jul 03 18:52:45 <Evie>   LOL
Jul 03 18:52:53 <Kelric>   But this budding high school history teacher (fresh college grad) should definitely love the Deryni series and probably will also enjoy The Adept books.
Jul 03 18:53:02 <DesertRose>   Oh yeah, Kelric!
Jul 03 18:53:14 <Evie>   I need to find the bag of missing miniature food and the pots and pans that came with my little kitchen
Jul 03 18:53:14 <DesertRose>   If she gets a kick out of the books, point her toward the forum and chat! :)
Jul 03 18:53:33 <drakensis>   good night
Jul 03 18:53:37 <DesertRose>   G'night, drakensis
Jul 03 18:53:39 <Evie>   Goodnight, Drakensis
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Jul 03 18:53:48 <jemler>   nite drakenis
Jul 03 18:53:57 <Evie>   quick exit there
Jul 03 18:54:10 <DesertRose>   He usually does bail pretty quickly once he says he's going to.
Jul 03 18:55:18 <DesertRose>   BRB
Jul 03 18:55:22 <Evie>   K
Jul 03 18:55:30 <Evie>   OK, that is, not KK
Jul 03 18:56:38 <Evie>   My salad for lunch is reminding me why I don't have salads for lunch by not keeping me filled quite until time for dinner.
Jul 03 18:57:13 <jemler>   i just had a sandwich for lunch.
Jul 03 18:57:14 <Eyikl>   Hm, I know a budding high school history teacher. Do you live in the South by any chance, Kelric?
Jul 03 18:57:48 <Evie>   There's hopefully more than one in the nation.  :-D
Jul 03 18:57:54 <jemler>   i'll one-up you evie. we're having steak salad for dinner.
Jul 03 18:58:04 <Evie>   Oh, yum, jemler!
Jul 03 18:58:24 <Eyikl>   hopefully.
Jul 03 18:59:14 <Evie>   I'm trying to up my intake of fruits and veggies and reduce my intake of red meats and cheeses so I can lower my cholesterol levels a bit, but a bit of steak would be really good right now
Jul 03 18:59:34 <Evie>   I'm not cutting the higher fat things out altogether, just trying to eat them more sparingly
Jul 03 19:00:02 <The_Bee>   I get Meals on Wheels, which include vegetables
Jul 03 19:00:02 <Evie>   Which is a pain for me, since I'm a cheese adoring carnivore
Jul 03 19:00:10 <Eyikl>   so no Barbecues this weekend?
Jul 03 19:00:28 <DesertRose>   The lunch salad probably would have held you to supper if you'd added some diced grilled chicken or something like that, Evie.  :)
Jul 03 19:00:44 <Evie>   No, I've saved some ground beef for burgers.  :-)
Jul 03 19:00:50 <JastaElf>   Back.
Jul 03 19:00:58 <The_Bee>   I'd love a barbecue, but Melantha doesn't like to cook.
Jul 03 19:00:58 <Evie>   I'll just have some leaner protein for my other meals
Jul 03 19:01:00 <jemler>   we'll probably have one tomorrow.
Jul 03 19:01:19 <DesertRose>   No, I'm having hot dogs tomorrow, but I'm doing them in the oven because I don't have a grill or a good place to put one even if I owned one.
Jul 03 19:01:22 <Evie>   It's so hot outside these days, I'll probably use my stovetop grill pan rather than actually grilling out
Jul 03 19:01:47 *   Demercia (Mibbit@3EB374.1784C0.D10A7A.82DA6E) has joined
Jul 03 19:01:52 <DesertRose>   There's that too.  Independence Day in Florida is too darn hot for a cook-out.
Jul 03 19:01:54 <DesertRose>   Hi Demercia
Jul 03 19:01:56 <The_Bee>   hi demercia
Jul 03 19:02:05 <Evie>   Probably, DR.  Mine had fruit and nuts, but no cheese or meat
Jul 03 19:02:09 <Evie>   Hi demercia!
Jul 03 19:02:26 <Eyikl>   Hi Demercia
Jul 03 19:02:40 <Demercia>   Hi all.  And happy Independence Day, since over here it is now 4th July
Jul 03 19:02:48 <DesertRose>   Thanks!
Jul 03 19:03:07 <DesertRose>   I was teasing your twin earlier by saying, "Or Happy Treason Day, from your side of the Water."  :D
Jul 03 19:03:11 <jemler>   hi demercia
Jul 03 19:03:13 <Evie>   LOL
Jul 03 19:03:32 <jemler>   remember the Boston Tea Party!
Jul 03 19:03:35 <Demercia>   Definitely DR😀
Jul 03 19:03:54 <Evie>   would you toss a little sugar and milk into Boston Harbor for me too? Thanks.
Jul 03 19:04:05 <DesertRose>   Ew, tea made with seawater?  Yeuch.
Jul 03 19:04:09 <Evie>   Oh, and a scone
Jul 03 19:04:16 <JastaElf>   Hi Demercia!
Jul 03 19:04:21 <The_Bee>   cold chicken and mind juleps for a hot holiday
Jul 03 19:04:24 <Demercia>   Though why you thought you could make a decent cup of tea in cold sea water beats me
Jul 03 19:04:33 <jemler>   mind juleps?
Jul 03 19:04:50 <The_Bee>   for celebrating the Fourth
Jul 03 19:04:56 <Eyikl>   It wasn't very good tea to start off with
Jul 03 19:05:17 <The_Bee>   ooops. Mint juleps
Jul 03 19:05:41 <Evie>   "Mind the juleps, please!"
Jul 03 19:05:44 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 19:05:57 <DesertRose>   Sounds like what you'd say to a careless waiter at Churchill Downs!
Jul 03 19:06:48 <Eyikl>   The juleps have been making trouble this week, and will need watching
Jul 03 19:06:51 <Evie>   "Why should I mind the juleps? They can't tell me what to do! They're not the boss of me!"
Jul 03 19:06:57 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 19:07:27 <Demercia>   Sorry I missed most of early chat, was down at the local mosque for a special celebration.  Much amused by two little girls who ignored the best efforts of their fathers and big brothers to keep them quiet during prayers
Jul 03 19:07:35 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 19:07:38 <Evie>   :-D
Jul 03 19:07:40 <DesertRose>   Little kids are good for that.
Jul 03 19:08:02 <JastaElf>   :)
Jul 03 19:08:49 <DesertRose>   Young children don't do quiet too well unless they're asleep, generally.  :)
Jul 03 19:09:29 <DesertRose>   Silence is golden, unless you have young children in the house; then it's very, very suspicious!
Jul 03 19:09:35 <Evie>   LOL, so true
Jul 03 19:09:53 <Demercia>   So thought I would just pop in and say happy treason/Independence Day (delete according to preference), and then say good night.  Catch you all in August.
Jul 03 19:10:07 <DesertRose>   LOL, okay, thank you, Demercia.
Jul 03 19:10:07 <Evie>   Goodnight, Demercia!
Jul 03 19:10:12 <Demercia>   Or cats DR
Jul 03 19:10:18 <Eyikl>   goodnight Demercia
Jul 03 19:10:21 <KK>   Nighters, Demercia.
Jul 03 19:10:21 <DesertRose>   Thanks for dropping by, however briefly.
Jul 03 19:10:24 <DesertRose>   That, too.
Jul 03 19:10:31 <The_Bee>   nighters, demercia
Jul 03 19:10:37 <jemler>   nite demercia
Jul 03 19:10:38 <DesertRose>   Little Miss Mischief has been very creative lately.  :)
Jul 03 19:10:42 <Demercia>   Nighters all.
Jul 03 19:10:42 <DesertRose>   G'night, Demercia
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Jul 03 19:12:19 <DesertRose>   KK, what are your plans for your mom's birthday tomorrow?
Jul 03 19:14:58 <Evie>   *ping*  :-D
Jul 03 19:15:16 <Eyikl>   *pong*
Jul 03 19:15:36 *   Evie breaks out the paddles
Jul 03 19:15:39 <DesertRose>   *pung*
Jul 03 19:15:50 <Evie>   My serve
Jul 03 19:15:55 <Evie>   *ping*
Jul 03 19:16:23 <JastaElf>   *Great, now I wanna play....*
Jul 03 19:16:30 <Evie>   Four-way Ping Pong
Jul 03 19:16:36 <Eyikl>   *pong*
Jul 03 19:16:48 <JastaElf>   Doggone it, I've been out of chat so long, I don't remember how to do the silly bits.  :)
Jul 03 19:16:53 <Evie>   Trying to imagine that table
Jul 03 19:17:05 <Evie>   Type /me what-you-want-to say
Jul 03 19:17:27 <The_Bee>   anyone for quiddich?
Jul 03 19:17:27 <Eyikl>   It would be square, I'm pretty sure.
Jul 03 19:17:30 <DesertRose>   "/me does whatever."
Jul 03 19:17:35 <Evie>   Or cross shaped
Jul 03 19:17:36 *   jemler what-you-want-to say
Jul 03 19:17:49 <jemler>   now what? :)
Jul 03 19:17:52 <DesertRose>   Minus the quotation marks.
Jul 03 19:18:09 <Evie>   Evie smacks Jemler upside the head with a mackerel
Jul 03 19:18:17 <Evie>   Like that. :D
Jul 03 19:18:24 *   DesertRose pelts jemler with a barrage of minnows.
Jul 03 19:18:51 *   Evie paints a Marx horse to look like Jasper
Jul 03 19:19:04 <Evie>   Actually, I do need to figure out how to repaint my Marx horses
Jul 03 19:19:08 <jemler>   Gus! Carys! fresh fish!
Jul 03 19:19:09 <JastaElf>   I can't see it.  I type the right stuff, but when I hit send, it disappears.
Jul 03 19:19:27 <Evie>   Do you type /me as the first part of the line before everything else?
Jul 03 19:19:29 <The_Bee>   The Marx brothers were horses?
Jul 03 19:19:30 <JastaElf>   Yup
Jul 03 19:19:38 <Evie>   Hm, odd
Jul 03 19:19:44 <Evie>   LOL, Bee!
Jul 03 19:19:47 <DesertRose>   Are you here via Mibbit, JastaElf?
Jul 03 19:19:59 <Evie>   There used to be a Marx brand of toys that made 1:6 scale horses
Jul 03 19:20:06 <Evie>   Some of which I have
Jul 03 19:20:15 <Eyikl>   Is Engles Marx a horse too?
Jul 03 19:20:20 <Evie>   They are larger than Brayer horses
Jul 03 19:20:31 <jemler>   or richard marx?
Jul 03 19:20:34 <JastaElf>   Yup, Mibbit
Jul 03 19:20:44 *   DesertRose pokes jemler with a swordfish.
Jul 03 19:20:55 <DesertRose>   Hmm.  I wonder why it's not accepting the /me command.
Jul 03 19:20:57 <jemler>   horses don't bray, they neigh. donkeys bray.
Jul 03 19:21:13 <DesertRose>   I'd ask bynw to look into it, but he's at work right now so he can't just at the moment.
Jul 03 19:21:44 <Evie>   and your text just vanishes into thin air?
Jul 03 19:21:44 <jemler>   are you typing a space after /me?
Jul 03 19:21:50 <JastaElf>   Nope
Jul 03 19:21:59 <jemler>   try it that way
Jul 03 19:22:01 <Evie>   Ah, that could be why
Jul 03 19:22:07 <DesertRose>   You need a space after me.
Jul 03 19:22:12 <Evie>   Either that or your text has found a Portal
Jul 03 19:22:17 <DesertRose>   Otherwise, IRC doesn't recognize it as a command.
Jul 03 19:22:17 <KK>   Sorry, I was looking at dolls.  Tomorrow, I'm cooling a lamb roast dinner for my mom, with a flag cake for dessert--with sliced strawberries and ice cream atop the chocolate cake.
Jul 03 19:22:23 <JastaElf>   Nope, didn't work.
Jul 03 19:22:24 <jemler>   me needs his space
Jul 03 19:22:24 <DesertRose>   Oh yum, KK!
Jul 03 19:22:34 <JastaElf>   Yum, sounds wonderful!
Jul 03 19:22:34 <DesertRose>   You need the slash, jemler.  :P
Jul 03 19:22:40 *   KK sighs
Jul 03 19:22:41 <Evie>   Like this.  "/me sends this text."  But without the quote marks
Jul 03 19:22:41 <jemler>   cooling?
Jul 03 19:22:49 <KK>   Worked for me.
Jul 03 19:22:57 <The_Bee>   Sounds great.  Is lamb your mom's favorite?
Jul 03 19:22:58 <JastaElf>   Please give my love to Margaret?
Jul 03 19:22:59 <Evie>   Sounds good
Jul 03 19:23:04 <DesertRose>   I think JastaElf's text has found the way to construct a Portal.
Jul 03 19:23:12 <jemler>   happy birthday mom!
Jul 03 19:23:13 <DesertRose>   It needs to share the knowledge with the rest of the class.
Jul 03 19:23:20 <DesertRose>   Happy birthday to LBM!  :D
Jul 03 19:23:26 <Eyikl>   Will your cake have buleberries, KK?
Jul 03 19:23:26 *   Alp (Mibbit@AF512E.0B5F37.AD64CB.D73176) has joined
Jul 03 19:23:32 <KK>   SHe likes it, it's my favorite, and I had a frozen roast the freezer.  Plus, she never gets lamb at home.
Jul 03 19:23:34 <The_Bee>   hi Alp
Jul 03 19:23:38 <JastaElf>   nope.  And if I could make portals, I'd have finished moving by now.  :)
Jul 03 19:23:49 <JastaElf>   Hi Alp!
Jul 03 19:23:52 <Evie>   I wish JastaElf could teach me how to make a Portal.  I'd love to be at the otherwise free medieval conference open to the public at the University of Leeds right now.  :-( 
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Jul 03 19:24:00 <Eyikl>   Hi Alp
Jul 03 19:24:09 <DesertRose>   I don't think JastaElf herself sorted it out, just the text.  :P
Jul 03 19:24:28 <Evie>   The incredible appearing and disappearing Alp.  Maybe Alp found a Portal.
Jul 03 19:25:04 <Evie>   I still haven't found one in our sacristy.  Not a single square of that linoleum tingles underfoot.  :-D
Jul 03 19:25:06 <DesertRose>   Are you putting a space before the slash, JastaElf?  If you are, you shouldn't.
Jul 03 19:25:21 <DesertRose>   Phooey on those Portals.
Jul 03 19:25:27 <DesertRose>   For not being there.
Jul 03 19:25:30 <Evie>   and no space between the / and me
Jul 03 19:25:56 <JastaElf>   Not putting spaces in places they ought not be.  :)
Jul 03 19:26:07 <DesertRose>   Well, shoot, shucks, and phooey.
Jul 03 19:26:16 <DesertRose>   Also, poo-poo words.
Jul 03 19:26:19 <JastaElf>   lol
Jul 03 19:26:22 <Evie>   I think maybe Mibbit is just being a pain, then
Jul 03 19:26:26 <DesertRose>   I think so.
Jul 03 19:27:04 *   The_Bee stings Mibbit up the wazoo.
Jul 03 19:27:04 <Evie>   The poo-poo words are important. Don't forget those (she says solemnly).
Jul 03 19:27:24 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 19:27:28 <JastaElf>   :D
Jul 03 19:27:37 <jemler>   poo-poo or boom-boom.
Jul 03 19:28:22 <DesertRose>   Definitely poo-poo.
Jul 03 19:28:42 <DesertRose>   It was something my mom used to say when she was irritated but didn't want to use actual cuss words in front of small children.
Jul 03 19:28:44 <The_Bee>   phooey and likewise nuts!
Jul 03 19:29:02 <JastaElf>   :)
Jul 03 19:29:09 <The_Bee>   That's what my mom used to say.
Jul 03 19:29:44 <DesertRose>   We're so dignified.  :P
Jul 03 19:30:03 <Evie>   My mom, if very mad, would use some Spanish invective that even she didn't know the translations for, since she learned them from hearing her mother use them, and her mom never told her what they meant!
Jul 03 19:30:23 <The_Bee>   LOL
Jul 03 19:30:30 <DesertRose>   That could end... not well, if she did it in front of Spanish speakers who knew what the words actually meant.
Jul 03 19:30:35 <jemler>   Khadasa!
Jul 03 19:30:40 <KK>   Have you ever found out the meanings?
Jul 03 19:31:04 <Evie>   A few years ago she finally looked them up in a Spanish/English dictionary so she could decide which ones she could safely use around her Latino friends without risking offense
Jul 03 19:31:10 <DesertRose>   And Spanish gets pretty naughty in its cursing at times.
Jul 03 19:31:40 <Evie>   Turned out all but one were very mild words anyway, although she'd been calling my father a goat for years when annoyed.  :-D
Jul 03 19:31:45 <DesertRose>   LOL
Jul 03 19:32:40 <Evie>   And the one that is not so mild is also one of those words that is impossible to do a literal translation of, but the more figurative translations were enough to clue her in that they weren't "polite company" language.
Jul 03 19:32:46 <Eyikl>   tanto cabra...
Jul 03 19:33:06 <Evie>   I think it was "cabrito" she used. He must be a little goat.  :-D
Jul 03 19:33:07 <DesertRose>   Ah, yes, one of those sorts of terms...
Jul 03 19:33:24 <DesertRose>   If he's stubborn, perhaps it's apt.  ;)
Jul 03 19:33:35 <Evie>   Yes.  :-D
Jul 03 19:33:38 <Eyikl>   He'S a kid?
Jul 03 19:33:47 <Evie>   Quietly stubborn, but that fits
Jul 03 19:34:03 <The_Bee>   "Sinverguenza" is one of the worst, IIRC
Jul 03 19:34:05 <Evie>   I suppose he's a kid.  I'm a kid, and I must have got it from somewhere!
Jul 03 19:34:12 <DesertRose>   I love how my stepdad calls me stubborn, as if he isn't.
Jul 03 19:35:27 <Evie>   "It's in the air around here."
Jul 03 19:35:31 <DesertRose>   I think the implication of sinverguenza is that the person being called that has no moral code.
Jul 03 19:35:40 <DesertRose>   So yeah, that might be fightin' words.
Jul 03 19:36:21 <DesertRose>   One of the worst things to say in Navajo doesn't even make sense without cultural context.
Jul 03 19:36:42 <The_Bee>   "shameless one"
Jul 03 19:37:03 <DesertRose>   About the harshest insult that exists in Navajo basically translates into English as "you act like you have no family."
Jul 03 19:37:56 <DesertRose>   But when you take into account how heavily family ties figure into Navajo culture and how if you have more than you need, you're supposed to use it to help people in your family/clan who DO need it, it really is a harsh insult.
Jul 03 19:38:49 <The_Bee>   DR, have you read Tony Hillerman's novels?
Jul 03 19:38:52 <DesertRose>   Yup
Jul 03 19:39:05 <DesertRose>   I need to read the two his daughter has written to continue the series since his death.
Jul 03 19:39:24 <The_Bee>   What's her name?
Jul 03 19:39:27 <DesertRose>   Anne Hillerman.
Jul 03 19:39:31 <KK>   Need to think about closing out for tonight.  And I won't be here the next two weeks.  Michaeline retreat next weekend, and consecration of a new bishop the following.
Jul 03 19:39:47 <DesertRose>   The first one was called Rock With Wings, and I'm blanking on the title of the more recent one.
Jul 03 19:39:59 <DesertRose>   Okay.  So three weeks from now, we'll see you at 7 pm, then?
Jul 03 19:40:05 <KK>   So have a good July, all.
Jul 03 19:40:05 <jemler>   happy birthday to your mom, kk. enjoy the retreat.
Jul 03 19:40:09 <The_Bee>   We'll m iss you, KK. Thanks for coming today and have a good several weeks.
Jul 03 19:40:10 <Evie>   OK.  Have a good month!
Jul 03 19:40:20 <DesertRose>   Enjoy the retreat and consecration!
Jul 03 19:40:30 <DesertRose>   Have a good few weeks, and thanks for coming to hang out with us.
Jul 03 19:40:40 <Eyikl>   Have a good time.
Jul 03 19:40:46 <jemler>   let us know if you Sere anything.
Jul 03 19:40:53 <jemler>   See anything.
Jul 03 19:41:04 <KK>   Yep, 7 on the 24th.
Jul 03 19:41:12 <JastaElf>   *sobs*  I'm so sorry to miss Retreat,
Jul 03 19:41:32 <JastaElf>   but I'll see you at the consecration!
Jul 03 19:41:34 <KK>   Me too.  But you'll be with us the following week, yes?
Jul 03 19:41:40 <The_Bee>   I'll look Anny Hillerman up at my local library
Jul 03 19:41:43 <KK>   Excellent!
Jul 03 19:41:44 <JastaElf>   Yup!  Absolutely!
Jul 03 19:42:07 <KK>   On that note, then....
Jul 03 19:42:15 <jemler>   nite kk
Jul 03 19:42:15 <DesertRose>   Okay, g'night, KK!
Jul 03 19:42:20 <Evie>   Goodnight!
Jul 03 19:42:23 <The_Bee>   bye, KK
Jul 03 19:42:25 <Eyikl>   goodnight KK
Jul 03 19:42:26 *   KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
Jul 03 19:42:27 <JastaElf>   Night!!
Jul 03 19:42:44 <KK>   Nighters!
Jul 03 19:42:52 *   KK has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)

 

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