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Offline HealingWaters

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hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« on: April 24, 2016, 07:54:18 pm »
does anyone think that hypnosis could be used to awaken psyic abilities that we are suppose to have?
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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2016, 10:24:13 pm »
Define your terms.

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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 10:00:07 am »
Seeking clarification,  are you asking if a hypnotist might somehow be able to draw out or somehow spark latent psychic/psionic powers similar to the Deryni  powers of telepathy, Truth-reading, etc., but in regular humans? (Or perhaps in blocked Deryni or people who don't realize they are Deryni?) And are you thinking in an Eleven Kingdoms context or our world? It seems like an interesting question (or series of questions) in any case. Could also make an interesting premise for a story. :)
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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 06:47:01 pm »
in us, not nessesarily in deryni terms, but yes spark or draw out latent psionic abiliteis.
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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2016, 11:25:53 pm »
Katherine Kurtz has borrowed from all sorts of places, so - sort of.

Camber at one point closes his eyes and wills them to adjust to bright light - that sounds contradictory, since closing them will cause them to expand due to no light coming in, but the size of your eyes also adjusts to your emotions, becoming larger when looking at something pleasant and shrinking in response to something disliked (this is why we prefer candle lit dinners for romantic evenings, as our eyes grow when looking at those we are in love with, so bright light becomes uncomfortable).
So Camber could have just imagined something very distasteful.

Similarly there is a training scene when he visits the Gabrielites where the students are responding to each others' moves with their eyes closed - I've trained in such an exercise in Tai Chi Push Hands, and have no doubt that other martial arts have similar exercises.

Of course, much of what the stories call "magic" is misunderstood or bowdlerized descriptions of other things. In the Arthurian classic Tristram and Isolde the pair end up in bed together after drinking a magic potion - because that sounds more romantic than "they got drunk and shagged".

A lot of Celtic 'magic' is from being on the receiving end of Roman oratory. "Glamour" is a corruption of the Latin "Grammar"; the "Rule of Three" is a rhetorical technique most famously used in the phrase 'Friends, Romans, Countrymen' - 3 short punchy words grabs an audience.
More modern examples include 'my fellow Americans', 'blood, sweat, tears', or the double whammy - "Read My Lips" plus "No More Taxes".

Even the word 'Spell" means 'Word".

Sort of.

Bringing us to the greatest source of Magic - religion. "Magi" is Persian for "priest".

We get 'spell' from "Gospel": the Good Word or God's Word. Even "thaumaturgy" is a religious term, from Thaumaturge, 'wonder-worker', a title for miracle working saints.


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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 06:52:52 pm »
It does thank you.  I just some times feel things and would like to put them into perspective even if it is just for myself.
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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2016, 11:52:02 am »
Some people believe that the Pineal Gland which is an organ that almost everyone does not use (which does not fit into evolution, your not supposed to have something you don't use) is the organ that would enable "Deryni-like" powers (clairvoyance, telekinesis, ESP etc etc.) and is also known as "The Third Eye".  Rumor has it that Flouridation and other factors have negated its abilities. (Time) Teleportation is ironically used in the Outlander series via touching ancient Celtic/Druidic stone circles at the right time or the right way. The StarGate series uses "StarGates" to jump to other locations which are usually other planets/galaxies etc.  Some speculate that these sites were used for something like that, strangely enough.
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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2016, 09:18:46 am »
Scrying which Morgan and others have done  is a very real ability that the US military & (Russian) have worked on developing. 
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the lord and slave,
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Could conquer hearts so brave?"
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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2016, 04:52:13 am »
Scrying which Morgan and others have done  is a very real ability that the US military & (Russian) have worked on developing.
You are referring to this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2016, 05:07:49 pm »
The movie "The Men Who Stare At Goats" was kinda sort of based on Remote Viewing aka "Scrying"
"And as they tread the ruined Isle,
Where rest, at length,
the lord and slave,
They'll wondering ask, how hands so vile,
Could conquer hearts so brave?"
Thomas Moore

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Re: hypnosis as a catilest for the psychic abilites
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2016, 12:56:21 pm »
The great horror writer H.P. Lovecraft has numerous stories (some of which have been turned into movies like "From Beyond") about the pineal gland and its "psychic abilities."
"And as they tread the ruined Isle,
Where rest, at length,
the lord and slave,
They'll wondering ask, how hands so vile,
Could conquer hearts so brave?"
Thomas Moore

 

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