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KK Chat -- 8 November 2015
« on: November 08, 2015, 07:24:38 pm »
Nov 08 19:11:40 *   KK has joined
Nov 08 19:11:41 <Annie>   if we don't get a deal we'll self-pub.
Nov 08 19:11:44 <jemler>   KK!
Nov 08 19:11:44 <Evie>   Hi KK
Nov 08 19:11:48 <the_Bee>   Hi KK!
Nov 08 19:11:51 <Annie>   Oh, we have a whole series planned. :D
Nov 08 19:11:53 <Annie>   Hi KK
Nov 08 19:11:59 <KK>   Hi, everyone.
Nov 08 19:12:15 <DesertRose>   Hi KK!
Nov 08 19:12:19 <Evie>   KK, I FINALLY managed to watch El Cid
Nov 08 19:12:25 <KK>   What's up tonight?
Nov 08 19:12:34 <KK>   Ah.  Like the costumes?
Nov 08 19:12:35 <DesertRose>   We were discussing Annie's latest book.
Nov 08 19:12:43 <jemler>   good movie. i saw it when i was a kid.
Nov 08 19:12:59 <Evie>   Looked all over for the DVD but it's out of print, and YouTube doesn't have it, but I finally managed to find a streaming video of it online that was free to watch
Nov 08 19:13:11 <jemler>   brb
Nov 08 19:13:40 <jemler>   i have it on dvd, 2 discs.
Nov 08 19:14:04 <KK>   The men's costumes are better than the women's, but Chimene has a few good ones.  The Spanish princess has bizarro outfits, I think.
Nov 08 19:14:13 <Evie>   Yes, I was pleasantly surprised by the costumes, given that Hollywood's take on medieval clothing ranges from mostly accurate to OMGWTH?  :-D
Nov 08 19:14:15 <jemler>   i must have gotten off turner classic movies.
Nov 08 19:14:58 <jemler>   hat about the clothes in Inanhoe?
Nov 08 19:14:58 <Evie>   So this one at least wouldn't have made me want to fling the DVD box at the wall, had I had one to fling
Nov 08 19:15:06 <KK>   I have the program book, from back in the day when major movies got them.  Also have Lawrence of Arabia and Gone With the Wind.
Nov 08 19:15:17 <DesertRose>   Cool!
Nov 08 19:15:24 <Evie>   Oh cool!
Nov 08 19:15:31 <KK>   Which Ivanhoe?  THere have been several.
Nov 08 19:15:32 <jemler>   so do i, and becket, the lion in winter.
Nov 08 19:15:52 <KK>   Beket, yes.  Lion in Winter, not so much.
Nov 08 19:15:57 <jemler>   i'll have to look. i think it has liz taylor in it.
Nov 08 19:16:26 <KK>   Not horrible, but not really inspiring, either, at least to me.
Nov 08 19:16:32 <Evie>   I don't recall costumes from Ivanhoe, though there was a made for TV version of Ivanhoe with Olivia Hussey in it that my friends used to joke that I was in, since I looked a lot like her at the time and had just started in the SCA
Nov 08 19:16:36 <the_Bee>   Becket was one of the best movies I've seen.
Nov 08 19:17:03 <KK>   Yes, Becket is wonderful, on multiple levels.
Nov 08 19:17:15 <Evie>   I love The Lion in Winter, though I can see why you wouldn't have wanted to base the Haldanes on that version of the Plantagenet story! :-D
Nov 08 19:17:34 <DesertRose>   jemler, The Lion in Winter had Katharine Hepburn as Eleanor of Aquitaine.  I don't think Elizabeth Taylor was in it.
Nov 08 19:17:39 <Evie>   I have Becket and was thinking of watching it again soon
Nov 08 19:17:46 <the_Bee>   With Jehanna as Eleanor?
Nov 08 19:17:58 <Evie>   Liz was not in it. However, a very young Timothy Dalton was
Nov 08 19:17:58 <jemler>   i was talking about ivanhoe.
Nov 08 19:18:10 <DesertRose>   Oh, okay.  Sorry, I got confused.
Nov 08 19:18:18 <Annie>   With blond hair, IIRC
Nov 08 19:19:04 <Evie>   That must have been the movie version and not the later made for TV version that came out in the 1980s, I think
Nov 08 19:19:20 <Evie>   Either late 80s or early 90s, during my newlywed years
Nov 08 19:19:31 <jemler>   kk, did you base the flogging of javan on the flogging of henry in becket?
Nov 08 19:20:05 <Evie>   Since that's the version of Ivanhoe I got teased about being in.  Also Zefferelli's Romeo and Juliet, since Olivia Hussey was in that also.
Nov 08 19:20:17 <KK>   That scene was probably in the back of my mind, though I didn't do it consciously.
Nov 08 19:20:35 <jemler>   i just thought of it.
Nov 08 19:21:50 <jemler>   the ivanhoe i have was made in 1952
Nov 08 19:22:05 <DesertRose>   KK, Doughal asked a question about scrying that I thought you might be willing to answer.  He wanted to know what the maximum distance normally would be that a skilled deryni could scry.  What about with a group of highly skilled practitioners working together using a shiral crystal?  What if they were scrying over water such that there were no mountains or rock in the way?
Nov 08 19:22:22 <DesertRose>   (Did that whole paragraph make it?)
Nov 08 19:22:30 <jemler>   yep.
Nov 08 19:23:13 <DesertRose>   He's thinking of a group of Michaelines and Gabrilites (such as survived the Regents).
Nov 08 19:23:24 <jemler>   camber and his kin scryed for ariella in saint camber.
Nov 08 19:24:02 <jemler>   they used the haldana necklace as a focus.
Nov 08 19:24:09 <KK>   I'm not sure I follow.  Scrying, as I understand it, involves gazing into a crystal or water or a mirror or a flame or a jewel and seeing visions.  What distance would be involved in that?
Nov 08 19:24:09 <DesertRose>   Yup
Nov 08 19:24:31 <DesertRose>   How far could one cast, I think is the question.
Nov 08 19:24:48 <DesertRose>   Like, how far away could someone/something be and still be picked up by scrying?
Nov 08 19:24:54 <jemler>   ariella detected the probe ans reacted. they dumped the necklace down the garderobe!
Nov 08 19:25:02 <DesertRose>   I remember that.
Nov 08 19:25:39 <DesertRose>   How far could the object of the scrying attempt be from the scryer(s) and still be found?
Nov 08 19:25:54 *   Evie needs to reread all the Camber-era books and hopes they come out in ebook form soon!
Nov 08 19:26:09 <DesertRose>   Yes, I'd love to have the Camber trilogies as e-books.
Nov 08 19:26:49 <KK>   Different sorts of targets here, I think.  One could make contact with something or someone, but one could also conjure up visions of what happened in a particular place associated with an item.  In the case of the Haldana necklace, don't think there'd be any particular limit on distance.
Nov 08 19:27:43 <DesertRose>   Okay.  I'll let him know to check the chat log next I see him.  He has young children (twin toddlers) at home and can't really sit at the computer until after bedtime for toddlers.
Nov 08 19:27:44 <the_Bee>   Remind me-did they retrieve the haldana necklace from the garderobe?
Nov 08 19:27:54 <DesertRose>   They had to go down to the middens and get it, Bee.
Nov 08 19:27:57 <DesertRose>   Camber did it, poor soul.
Nov 08 19:28:09 <DesertRose>   Yuk!
Nov 08 19:28:10 <jemler>   i checked the map in tkd, but i can't read the scale. too blurry.
Nov 08 19:28:41 <jemler>   camber scanned for the necklace, then lifted it out with his powers.
Nov 08 19:28:49 <DesertRose>   What he was thinking to do was have people on a ship trying to find land.
Nov 08 19:29:44 <Annie>   I totally need a Camber era reread.
Nov 08 19:29:44 <DesertRose>   In any case, thank you!
Nov 08 19:29:46 *   Jerusha ( has joined
Nov 08 19:29:54 <DesertRose>   Hi Jerusha!  Happy birthday!
Nov 08 19:29:59 <the_Bee>   Hi jerusha
Nov 08 19:30:02 <Evie>   Happy birthday, Jerusha!
Nov 08 19:30:04 <Annie>   hi Jerusha
Nov 08 19:30:06 <Jerusha>   Hi Everyone, and thanks, DR, Evie
Nov 08 19:30:14 *   Evie squeaks a rubber duck toy at Jerusha
Nov 08 19:30:17 <the_Bee>   Happy Birthday, Jerusha!
Nov 08 19:30:19 <Jerusha>   Sorry to be late - I was eating cake
Nov 08 19:30:28 *   DesertRose bakes a magical cake that is whatever sort of cake one likes best.
Nov 08 19:30:56 <jemler>   hi jerusha
Nov 08 19:30:57 <Jerusha>   There's nothing like the Duck of Corwyn to help celebrate a birthday
Nov 08 19:31:05 *   DesertRose giggles.
Nov 08 19:31:44 <jemler>   don't forget the Duncan Donuts!
Nov 08 19:32:01 *   DesertRose smacks jemler with a mackerel.
Nov 08 19:32:06 <Jerusha>   Jerusha throws a timbit at Jemler
Nov 08 19:32:07 <Evie>   One Duck of Corwyn right up!
Nov 08 19:32:42 <KK>   I knew that duck would come in handy!
Nov 08 19:32:42 <Jerusha>   Perfect!
Nov 08 19:32:48 <DesertRose>   LOL, KK!
Nov 08 19:32:50 <Evie>   I bought a mini-donut from a vending machine recently, but unfortunately I don't have a photo of Duncan holding it. Yet.
Nov 08 19:33:11 <Evie>   :-D
Nov 08 19:33:13 <jemler>   here's a link for all of you cat people:
Nov 08 19:33:31 <Evie>   I ought to take a pic of Alaric in the medieval bathtub with his rubber ducky.  ;-)
Nov 08 19:33:35 <DesertRose>   BRB
Nov 08 19:33:38 <DesertRose>   LOL, Evie!
Nov 08 19:33:50 <KK>   Ah, yes, a good one.  I saw that.
Nov 08 19:34:03 <KK>   And yes, Alaric in medieval bathtub with rubber duckie.
Nov 08 19:34:04 <jemler>   Richenda will be soooo jealous!
Nov 08 19:34:27 <jemler>   saw what, kk?
Nov 08 19:34:42 <KK>   The plaque.
Nov 08 19:34:43 <Jerusha>   Oh dear - His Grace covered by copious bubbles and a duckie?
Nov 08 19:35:04 <jemler>   ah. i got the catalog in the mail.
Nov 08 19:35:18 <Jerusha>   For a moment I thought you typed "the plague"
Nov 08 19:35:47 <Evie>   Well, since I doubt they had bubble bath, more like His Grace in a linen-lined tub with a strategically placed board across it to both hold his wine and cheese and hide parts of his anatomy that aren't the camera's business.  :-D
Nov 08 19:36:00 <KK>   I got the catalog, too.  I am the catalog queen!
Nov 08 19:36:15 <jemler>   unless they have a zoooooom lens! :)
Nov 08 19:36:18 <Jerusha>   Um, I'll have a piece of cheese, sir?
Nov 08 19:36:29 <KK>   Could just be murky water--from bath unguents, not dirt.
Nov 08 19:36:46 <Jerusha>   Can I pick which one? :D
Nov 08 19:36:59 <Evie>   Unless he's just had a ride through muddy terrain, in which case it could be murky from dirt
Nov 08 19:37:29 <KK>   But on our scale, that might be difficult without risking staining of vinyl skin.  Strategic bath board is probably a better idea.
Nov 08 19:38:05 <Evie>   yes, any mud would need to be photoshopped in, though actually his new body is plastic, so fairly washable
Nov 08 19:38:42 <Evie>   I fiinally got up the nerve to do his head removal surgery and swap him onto a decent body
Nov 08 19:39:01 <Jerusha>   How is his hair now?
Nov 08 19:39:05 <Evie>   So he can sit a horse without looking weird
Nov 08 19:39:22 <KK>   I giggled at that.  He's the authentic Alaric, but has had at least 2 bodies and at least three heads.
Nov 08 19:39:24 <Evie>   It's somewhat better.  using a needle to pick through it helped
Nov 08 19:39:33 <jemler>   oh. he doesn't sit side-saddle now? :)
Nov 08 19:39:35 <Evie>   LOL
Nov 08 19:39:52 <Evie>   No, no, it's Duncan who has had the three heads.  :-D
Nov 08 19:40:12 <Evie>   Alaric just has the same head, a new body, and somewhat singed hair
Nov 08 19:40:41 <Annie>   heh
Nov 08 19:40:49 <KK>   How did his hair get singed?  Is this a new development, or am I not remembering something in his past?
Nov 08 19:40:51 <jemler>   can you do that to me?
Nov 08 19:40:55 <Jerusha>   Richenda keeps trying to run her fingers through his hair and gets stuck
Nov 08 19:40:55 <Evie>   well, more like oddly fused
Nov 08 19:41:10 <KK>   Why, oddly fused?
Nov 08 19:41:58 <Evie>   When I used my friend's blow drier to soften his neck joint to remove it from his original body, I didn't know her drier runs hotter than mine (either that or he has a different sort of plastic-based fiber for his hair than my other figures do), so some of his hair got overheated and melted a bit under the heat
Nov 08 19:42:25 <Jerusha>   Alaric can be a bit hot-headed
Nov 08 19:42:31 <KK>   Ah.  This I had not heard.
Nov 08 19:42:32 <Evie>   Mostly it was on the back and sides where I was holding it to pull it off his body.  I managed to fix the worst of the damage, but it's not as soft and pretty as it used to be.
Nov 08 19:43:07 <Jerusha>   Morgan raises a blond eyebrow at "pretty"
Nov 08 19:43:15 <jemler>   he was always a hot head. :)
Nov 08 19:43:16 <Evie>   picking out the fused tangles with a needle helped undo much of the damage, surprisingly, and I managed to trim a little off with scissors also
Nov 08 19:44:27 <Evie>   at least it didn't turn out worse.  I was worried for a scary moment or ten that I might have to reroot all new hair on him, which would entail having to remove his head (tearing up his new neck joint in the process) to add in new hair.
Nov 08 19:44:53 <Jerusha>   eek
Nov 08 19:45:06 <Evie>   either that or get a replacement head, but that might be hard to do since he's from a Ken that came out years ago, and isn't easy to find now.
Nov 08 19:45:10 <KK>   Sounds like it ws a near-run thing, and something you dont
Nov 08 19:45:14 <KK>   't want to repeat.
Nov 08 19:45:19 <Evie>   exactly
Nov 08 19:45:26 <the_Bee>   sounds like alaric is losing his head over Evie.
Nov 08 19:45:26 <Jerusha>   Morgan agrees
Nov 08 19:45:43 <Evie>   Alaric might grow rather fond of coronets and/or hoods to draw attention away from any remaining damange
Nov 08 19:45:56 <Evie>   damage, even. He's not got mange.  :-D
Nov 08 19:46:48 <Evie>   now that I'm on the verge of retiring, maybe I'll have a bit more time to work on backdrops and props again
Nov 08 19:46:50 <Jerusha>   I wonder if there is a way to Heal hair
Nov 08 19:47:09 <Evie>   hair follicles, maybe, but I don't know about the hair shaft
Nov 08 19:47:09 <Jerusha>   How close are you, Evie?
Nov 08 19:47:21 <Evie>   My last day on the job is 4 December
Nov 08 19:47:30 <KK>   Or make it grow faster, say, to grow out hair for a g'dula.
Nov 08 19:47:32 <Jerusha>   Wow! Congratulations!
Nov 08 19:47:40 <Evie>   Thank you!  :-)
Nov 08 19:47:49 <jemler>    that was my dad's birthday.
Nov 08 19:48:02 <Evie>   I doubt I'll get to be a lady of leisure for very long, but I want to take the month of December off at least before I look for something else
Nov 08 19:48:12 <the_Bee>   What's the first thing you want to do on 5 December?
Nov 08 19:48:13 <Jerusha>   What a great way to celebrate the holidays
Nov 08 19:48:48 <Evie>   and since I'll have a small pension, I'm hoping that will give me a chance to go part-time, or at least more flexibilty to pick and choose what I want to do rather than just take the first job offered
Nov 08 19:48:58 <Jerusha>   Though I can see Duncan hinting for a new altar cloth
Nov 08 19:49:00 <KK>   So, you get to give yourself (relative) freedom for Christmas.
Nov 08 19:49:04 <Evie>   The first thing I want to do on 5 December is celebrate my birthday.  :-D
Nov 08 19:49:32 <Jerusha>   Now that's good timing!
Nov 08 19:49:52 <Evie>   I probably have some white linen that would serve to make him an altar cloth.  But it's rather useless without an altar to put it on yet, which is why it might be nice to make those walls and props first
Nov 08 19:50:29 <Jerusha>   Details, details....
Nov 08 19:50:46 <DesertRose>   Okay, back.
Nov 08 19:51:11 <jemler>   what are the dimensions of a standard catholic altar?
Nov 08 19:51:12 <Evie>   He's asking me for a St Camber's Chapel, complete with an LED light up candle. I think he's being overly ambitious or else sadly misinformed about my craft skills.
Nov 08 19:51:36 <Jerusha>   He has faith....
Nov 08 19:51:44 <jemler>   how is she"
Nov 08 19:51:46 <jemler>   ?
Nov 08 19:52:51 <Evie>   brb
Nov 08 19:53:20 <Evie>   back
Nov 08 19:53:32 <Jerusha>   KK, any news on the Road to Killingford?
Nov 08 19:53:55 <Annie>   Oooh. Is it happening?
Nov 08 19:53:56 <Evie>   I'm hoping to be able to write again, which I've not been able to do much of since this term started because it's been insanely busy at work, and I'm too wiped out to think by the time I get home
Nov 08 19:54:15 <Evie>   oh yes, what's the latest Deryni news!
Nov 08 19:55:39 <KK>   Sorting out details for the e-book contract of 12 titles.  And consulting on cover art for same.
Nov 08 19:55:45 <DesertRose>   Oh YAY!
Nov 08 19:55:50 <KK>   Nothing on Killingford yet.
Nov 08 19:56:02 <DesertRose>   Which twelve?
Nov 08 19:56:09 <KK>   brb
Nov 08 19:56:12 <DesertRose>   Okay
Nov 08 19:56:17 <Evie>   the Camber books, I hope
Nov 08 19:56:28 <DesertRose>   I hope so.  :)
Nov 08 19:56:37 <Evie>   since nothing pre-Kelson is out in ebook form yet
Nov 08 19:57:23 <Evie>   I mean, granted, I adore Kelson, but it would be nice to go back and re-read the others in order also
Nov 08 19:57:28 <DesertRose>   Yes.
Nov 08 19:57:36 <Jerusha>   Though they are dark
Nov 08 19:57:46 <DesertRose>   And it's nice that e-books are searchable if you're looking for some specific story point.
Nov 08 19:57:47 <jemler>   almost time for the librarians
Nov 08 19:58:12 <Evie>   Yes, well, I'm a fluffy little bunny who can't handle the dark, so I'll just not worry about rereading those.  Not.  :-D
Nov 08 19:58:33 <DesertRose>   So saith she who wrote "Possessed."
Nov 08 19:58:38 <Evie>   LOL!
Nov 08 19:58:43 *   DesertRose giggles
Nov 08 19:58:45 *   jemler lights blue-white handfire for Evie.
Nov 08 19:58:46 <Jerusha>   I still like leafing through pages when I am looking for something. But then, I am a dinosaur.  :)
Nov 08 19:58:46 <Evie>   I wondered if someone would bring that up.  :-D
Nov 08 19:59:21 <DesertRose>   Leafing through pages is all very well, but a search function is awfully handy if one is strapped for time.  :D
Nov 08 19:59:23 <Jerusha>   I still hope Javana finds happiness
Nov 08 19:59:42 <Evie>   I know a few people who weren't able to finish "Possessed" because it was just too grim
Nov 08 19:59:47 <jemler>   javana?
Nov 08 19:59:57 <Evie>   Denis Arilan's niece
Nov 08 20:00:03 <Evie>   from my fanfics
Nov 08 20:00:05 <jemler>   fanfic?
Nov 08 20:00:09 <Evie>   yes
Nov 08 20:00:23 <KK>   Back.  1st Camber trilogy, Heirs of St. Camber, The one that begins with Bishop's Heir, the Gargoyle book, the 2 Temple books, Lammas.  I may have gotten some of those wrong, just off the tip of my head.
Nov 08 20:00:26 <Jerusha>   Jerusha swats Jemler with a memory smelt
Nov 08 20:00:43 <DesertRose>   YAY!  I'd love to have Lammas Night on my Kindle app.
Nov 08 20:01:08 <jemler>   bishops heir is histories of kelson
Nov 08 20:01:10 <Evie>   Oh, that's right, I forgot the Histories of King Kelson weren't on ebook yet! I had to listen to those audio versions, which was a major psychic trauma for me.  ;-)
Nov 08 20:01:36 <jemler>   jerusha, why the smelt?
Nov 08 20:01:46 *   Mistyck ( has joined
Nov 08 20:01:52 <jemler>   hi mistyck
Nov 08 20:01:55 <Mistyck>   Hi all!
Nov 08 20:01:57 <Evie>   hi
Nov 08 20:01:59 <Annie>   hi Mistyck
Nov 08 20:02:01 <Jerusha>   Small payload, but very effective
Nov 08 20:02:06 <DesertRose>   Hi Mistyck.
Nov 08 20:02:13 <the_Bee>   hi mistyck
Nov 08 20:02:20 <Jerusha>   Hi Mistyk
Nov 08 20:02:21 <jemler>   but why? what did i do?
Nov 08 20:02:27 <KK>   Hi, Mistyck.
Nov 08 20:02:48 <Mistyck>   hope everyone is doing well today :)
Nov 08 20:02:56 <DesertRose>   So far so good.  You?
Nov 08 20:03:24 <Mistyck>   doing very lasagna from scratch--sauce in crock pot :)
Nov 08 20:03:29 <Evie>   yum
Nov 08 20:03:30 <DesertRose>   Yum!
Nov 08 20:03:44 <DesertRose>   I always make my spaghetti sauce in my crock pot.
Nov 08 20:03:49 <Jerusha>   Just because you didn't remember Javana's fanfic - which is one of my favourites
Nov 08 20:03:50 <DesertRose>   Super easy.
Nov 08 20:03:56 <Mistyck>   yeah turns out so awesome too!
Nov 08 20:03:56 <the_Bee>   Garfield will be right over. ;)
Nov 08 20:04:02 <Evie>   I don't think he's read any of the forum fanfics, Jerusha
Nov 08 20:04:05 <Mistyck>   :)
Nov 08 20:04:07 <DesertRose>   Jerusha, I'm not sure how often jemler reads the forum at all, never mind fanfics.
Nov 08 20:04:22 <jemler>   very seldom.
Nov 08 20:04:22 <DesertRose>   LOL, Bee
Nov 08 20:04:29 <Jerusha>   Oh - my bad then.  Sorry, Jemler.  You can send back the smelt.
Nov 08 20:04:48 *   Kelric (~IceChat78@32F4F9.AFCB16.CAC8DB.A93869) has joined
Nov 08 20:04:51 <DesertRose>   Hi Kelric.
Nov 08 20:04:55 <Evie>   He's read Anamchara, but only because i was in the chatroom looking for a beta-reader when I was brand new here and didn't know anyone, and he happened to volunteer.
Nov 08 20:04:56 <the_Bee>   hi kelric
Nov 08 20:04:59 <Jerusha>   Hi Kelric
Nov 08 20:05:01 <Mistyck>   Hi Kelric
Nov 08 20:05:12 <Evie>   hi Kelric
Nov 08 20:05:26 <Annie>   hi Kelric
Nov 08 20:05:30 <jemler>   hi kelric
Nov 08 20:05:45 <Kelric>   hi.
Nov 08 20:06:02 <Kelric>   stupid winblows 10 and avast AV...
Nov 08 20:06:15 <Mistyck>   oh, Ryan found a great new show on History Channel that is coming on at 3 AM here so we are DVR'ing's called Lost Worlds and this episode is about the Templars!  :)
Nov 08 20:06:27 <DesertRose>   oh cool!
Nov 08 20:06:41 <Kelric>   hmm
Nov 08 20:07:08 <Mistyck>   yeah it's apparently a show that aired starting in July of 2006 for a few years?  I never heard of it until just now...the Templar one is the 2nd episode
Nov 08 20:07:11 <Jerusha>   I'm afraid too many of my programs won
Nov 08 20:07:31 <Jerusha>   won't work if I upgrade to Windows 10.  Along with my fingers
Nov 08 20:07:40 <Evie>   LOL
Nov 08 20:07:47 <Evie>   I wondered what your programs won
Nov 08 20:07:54 <jemler>   i like win 10, dumped avast for norton
Nov 08 20:08:08 <the_Bee>   I had trouble downloading windows 10; not sure why.
Nov 08 20:08:15 <Kelric>   I tried upgrading icechat9 to the latest build and it utterly broke
Nov 08 20:08:28 <jemler>   i have every version, just in case.
Nov 08 20:08:54 <the_Bee>   how is win 10 with AVG?
Nov 08 20:09:10 <Evie>   Icechat 9.03 is what I'm using right now for chat
Nov 08 20:09:15 <KK>   Should be fine.
Nov 08 20:09:39 <Kelric>   that being said.  back to lurking time.  It's HAWKEY time!
Nov 08 20:09:45 <Evie>   my computer keeps nagging at me to upgrade to Win 10, but I've been hesitant because I don't know how well it will play with Scrivener and other programs I use
Nov 08 20:09:46 <KK>   That Templar program is pretty good, as I recall.
Nov 08 20:09:50 <DesertRose>   See you later, Kelric.
Nov 08 20:09:57 <Evie>   bye Kel
Nov 08 20:10:04 <jemler>   nite kelric
Nov 08 20:10:05 <Jerusha>   Bye Kelric
Nov 08 20:10:21 <Annie>   You can get back to Win 8 easy enough, Evie.
Nov 08 20:10:24 <the_Bee>   I need to disable stuff on my snail-mail computer, but 'm not sure which programs I don't need.
Nov 08 20:10:30 <Mistyck>   nite Kelric
Nov 08 20:10:39 <the_Bee>   bye kelric
Nov 08 20:11:15 <Evie>   This computer is also low on memory, so I don't want to risk making any major changes unless by some miracle Win 10 is a smaller OS than Win 8.1
Nov 08 20:12:45 <Mistyck>   ooh awesome Katherine.  Thanks...I'll tell Ryan too :)
Nov 08 20:14:07 <the_Bee>   Is the Templar show a documentary or a docudrama?
Nov 08 20:14:33 <Mistyck>   it's more of a documentary from what I could tell
Nov 08 20:14:41 <Mistyck>   more like Ancient Aliens
Nov 08 20:15:03 <Mistyck>   KK would know for sure :)
Nov 08 20:15:51 <the_Bee>   I've always assumed Ancient Aliens was about little green men and flying saucers.  You mean it's serious stuff?
Nov 08 20:16:13 *   Evie has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
Nov 08 20:16:33 <Mistyck>   yeah it's very serious stuff...things like Templars, Hindu Gods, Norse Gods, Native American Gods, The Mayan and all that
Nov 08 20:16:44 <Jerusha>   Yikes - we lost her!
Nov 08 20:16:49 <Mistyck>   Easter Island, Stone Henge, Hi Brasil, Atlantis
Nov 08 20:16:49 <the_Bee>   121, 120, 119...
Nov 08 20:17:32 <Mistyck>   very interesting stuff
Nov 08 20:17:34 *   Evie_ ( has joined
Nov 08 20:17:41 <Jerusha>   Rehi, Evie
Nov 08 20:17:41 <the_Bee>   rehi, evie
Nov 08 20:17:45 <DesertRose>   rehi Evie_
Nov 08 20:17:49 <jemler>   wb evie
Nov 08 20:17:58 <Mistyck>   wb Evie
Nov 08 20:18:04 *   Evie_ kicks modem
Nov 08 20:18:19 <Evie_>   I think that was my modem's fault and not Mibbit's
Nov 08 20:18:24 <KK>   It's a pretty good series.  Some things to be taken with several grains of salt, of course.
Nov 08 20:18:47 <DesertRose>   Seeing as you're on IceChat (from what I can tell), I shouldn't think it was Mibbit, Evie_.  :)
Nov 08 20:19:11 <Evie_>   Sometimes it's the server's fault, though, rather than my modem's
Nov 08 20:19:20 <Evie_>   in which case I still consider it "Mibbiting"
Nov 08 20:19:40 <DesertRose>   Yeah, every so often the server gets an attitude or worse yet has a netsplit, but that wasn't a netsplit because you're the only one who got pinged.
Nov 08 20:20:10 <Mistyck>   yeah, there's always some theories that are just wacko...
Nov 08 20:21:33 <jemler>   it was more like an evie-split. :)
Nov 08 20:21:37 *   jemler ducks
Nov 08 20:21:42 <Jerusha>   Alas, I must go.  The laundry downstairs is threatening to revolt if I don't wash it soon. (And it will be revolting if I don't)
Nov 08 20:21:56 <Evie_>   Yep, I split all right
Nov 08 20:21:56 *   Evie_ kicks modem again
Nov 08 20:21:56 <jemler>   nite jeruasha
Nov 08 20:21:57 <DesertRose>   LOL, okay, Jerusha.  Have a great rest of your birthday!  :)
Nov 08 20:22:03 <the_Bee>   nighters, Jerusha. Glad you came
Nov 08 20:22:09 <Evie_>   Goodnight, Jerusha
Nov 08 20:22:13 <jemler>   happy birthday, jerusha
Nov 08 20:22:17 <DesertRose>   "The peasants are revolting."  "You said it, they stink on ice!"
Nov 08 20:22:35 <Jerusha>   Thanks DR, and everyone!  Night!
Nov 08 20:22:35 <KK>   Yeah, I've got to run, too.  See you all next week.  And have a wonderful week!
Nov 08 20:22:42 *   Jerusha has quit (Quit: ajax IRC Client)
Nov 08 20:22:43 <Evie_>   goodnight KK
Nov 08 20:22:50 <DesertRose>   Okay, night, KK. Thanks for coming to see us!  Have a good week.
Nov 08 20:22:58 <the_Bee>   bye KK. Thanks for coming and have a good week.
Nov 08 20:23:02 <Mistyck>   nite Jerusha
Nov 08 20:23:05 *   KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
Nov 08 20:23:07 <Annie>   bye KK
Nov 08 20:23:10 <Mistyck>   nite KK
Nov 08 20:23:14 <KK>   Nighters.
Nov 08 20:23:20 *   KK has quit (Quit: ajax IRC Client)
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James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)


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