KK Chat -- 1 November 2015

[DesertRose]

Nov 01 17:03:20 *   KK has joined
Nov 01 17:03:24 <Annie>   Any bits that didn't make sense or you had to read over. Anything that trips you up.
Nov 01 17:03:25 <jemler>   kk!
Nov 01 17:03:27 <Evie>   how soon would you want the feedback by?
Nov 01 17:03:29 <Annie>   Bits that lagged.
Nov 01 17:03:30 <Evie>   hi KK!
Nov 01 17:03:31 <revanne>   hi Bee hi KK
Nov 01 17:03:32 <The_Bee>   Hi everyone!
Nov 01 17:03:32 <KK>   Hello, all.
Nov 01 17:03:36 <Annie>   End of Dec, ideally.
Nov 01 17:03:40 <Annie>   Hi, KK.
Nov 01 17:03:52 <jemler>   kk, we had mistyck here last week.
Nov 01 17:03:59 <drakensis>   hi KK
Nov 01 17:04:12 <Evie>   OK, if we've got a month or two, I can give it a look if you want
Nov 01 17:04:13 <The_Bee>   I've told her about early chat today.
Nov 01 17:04:23 <KK>   Mistyck, really?
Nov 01 17:04:25 <Annie>   Cool thanks, Evie.
Nov 01 17:04:32 <KK>   How's she doing?
Nov 01 17:04:41 <The_Bee>   Yes. now she has time off from school
Nov 01 17:06:20 <The_Bee>   She's now a Native American shaman, or something like that.
Nov 01 17:06:35 <jemler>   i just sent her a message
Nov 01 17:06:55 *   Mistyck (Mibbit@OWIRCN-ba1924ff.wa.comcast.net) has joined
Nov 01 17:06:56 <DesertRose>   Hi KK, Hi Bee.
Nov 01 17:07:01 <DesertRose>   Hi Mistyck.
Nov 01 17:07:04 <Mistyck>   Hi all
Nov 01 17:07:06 <Mistyck>   Hi KK!
Nov 01 17:07:10 <revanne>   Hi Mistyck
Nov 01 17:07:14 <jemler>   here she is! hi mistyck.
Nov 01 17:07:16 <Evie>   hello
Nov 01 17:07:20 *   drakensis realises he left the fridge open all day
Nov 01 17:07:22 <KK>   Hi, Mistyck, long time.
Nov 01 17:07:28 <Annie>   Hi Mistyck
Nov 01 17:07:33 <revanne>   Oh no Drakensis -
Nov 01 17:07:34 <Mistyck>   a very long time Katherine!
Nov 01 17:07:40 <Mistyck>   I'm in Seattle now...lol
Nov 01 17:07:49 <drakensis>   not much in it, fortuantely and it's in a cold corner of the house
Nov 01 17:08:04 <KK>   Wow.  And is your son still skating, or is that now ancient history?
Nov 01 17:08:05 <DesertRose>   Oops, drakensis.
Nov 01 17:08:07 <Evie>   Oh dear
Nov 01 17:08:08 <revanne>   At least it wasn't the freezer
Nov 01 17:08:08 <The_Bee>   Hi Mistyck
Nov 01 17:08:20 <Mistyck>   not skating anymore...back into music...guitar
Nov 01 17:08:32 <drakensis>   my freezer is easier to monitor since it's a chest freezer, but yes, that would have been bad
Nov 01 17:09:12 <revanne>   Decided that I'll mull some wine
Nov 01 17:09:19 <KK>   And what, professionally?  I guess he must be about finished with schooling by now.
Nov 01 17:09:23 <DesertRose>   Share, revanne? 
Nov 01 17:09:54 <Evie>   I'm on my way to revanne's house for some mulled wine. 
Nov 01 17:09:58 *   DesertRose sets out banana bread.
Nov 01 17:10:04 *   revanne sets out glasses and fills them with warm wine
Nov 01 17:10:08 <DesertRose>   Not that banana bread goes with mulled wine, but who cares?
Nov 01 17:10:12 *   DesertRose also sets out apple bread.
Nov 01 17:10:19 <Mistyck>   you're not going to believe this, but I'm also a full fledged Shaman now and am actually practicing many of your Deryni "techniques" in real life!  Ryan has grown up quite nicely...he's starting his own business
Nov 01 17:10:34 *   The_Bee sets out hot mulled cider with brandy on the side for that that want it.
Nov 01 17:10:37 <revanne>   I can mull some cider especially for you Evie
Nov 01 17:10:46 <KK>   Banana bread goes with just about anything, especially if it has walnuts.
Nov 01 17:10:51 <jemler>   what business?
Nov 01 17:10:54 <Mistyck>   and retired from the Air Force
Nov 01 17:10:56 <Evie>   Either is fine; I like mulled wine
Nov 01 17:10:57 <revanne>   But Bee beat me to it
Nov 01 17:11:16 <revanne>   That sounds good Mistyck
Nov 01 17:11:25 <Mistyck>   hehe...medical marijuana edibles...Indian snack food...lol.  We're both going into the business here...
Nov 01 17:11:40 <The_Bee>   Whom do you prectice them on, Mistyck?
Nov 01 17:11:43 <DesertRose>   I tend to omit the walnuts because I used to live with someone with a tree nut allergy so I got out of the habit of using them in banana bread, but given that this is magic chat banana bread, we can have some with nuts for those who like walnuts and some without for those who don't want. 
Nov 01 17:11:44 <jemler>   you mean like peyote?
Nov 01 17:11:46 <revanne>   I'll get you liking ale yet Evie!
Nov 01 17:12:09 <Mistyck>   people Bee...I am on Keen.com and I also have others recommended to me by my Mentor Andy.
Nov 01 17:13:11 <The_Bee>   So now you're doubly Indian--American Indian and Indian Indian.
Nov 01 17:13:15 <Mistyck>   no, not peyote at all.  Just telepathy and mediumship and fatigue banishing and some healing
Nov 01 17:13:21 <Mistyck>   yeah Bee...hehe
Nov 01 17:13:40 <jemler>   dots AND feathers?
Nov 01 17:13:53 <Mistyck>   yep jemler!
Nov 01 17:14:04 <The_Bee>   which tribe?
Nov 01 17:14:21 <jemler>   i'm part Cherokee.
Nov 01 17:14:25 <KK>   Is there a shamanistic tradition in Indian-Indian culture?
Nov 01 17:14:32 <Mistyck>   Caddo and Cheyenne
Nov 01 17:15:32 <Mistyck>   actually KK, I've also been watching a lot of Ancient Aliens on the History Channel and according to them, it's very similar in some instances...talking about "star people" and stuff...like Hindu "vimana" and "Gods" in them...
Nov 01 17:16:04 <jemler>   vimana... something like sky-chariots?
Nov 01 17:16:05 <KK>   Interesting.
Nov 01 17:16:25 <Mistyck>   yeah...exactly what it is...sky chariots
Nov 01 17:16:37 <jemler>   erik von daniken, when i was a kid.
Nov 01 17:16:44 <Mistyck>   yep...exactly
Nov 01 17:16:48 <Mistyck>   he was and is right
Nov 01 17:17:03 <Mistyck>   I started following him in 1978
Nov 01 17:17:08 <The_Bee>   "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot"
Nov 01 17:17:13 <Mistyck>   as a teenager lol
Nov 01 17:17:15 <jemler>   chariots of the gods, ans a few others.
Nov 01 17:17:31 <jemler>   i was 15 in 78
Nov 01 17:17:35 <Mistyck>   yep...I was big into Norse mythos and Tarot cards at the time lol
Nov 01 17:17:55 <Mistyck>   oh and gypsies and turkish coffee grounds reading
Nov 01 17:17:56 <jemler>   in search of with leonard nimoy.
Nov 01 17:18:07 <The_Bee>   I once took a course in Tarot reading.
Nov 01 17:18:40 <The_Bee>   and I was once very much into astrology.
Nov 01 17:18:44 <Annie>   I've used it for writing ideas.
Nov 01 17:18:48 <Mistyck>   I got a book by Eden Grey and I still use it lol
Nov 01 17:19:06 <Annie>   Indirectly, the Tarot gave us our antagonist in the urban fantasy thing.
Nov 01 17:19:16 <Mistyck>   cool
Nov 01 17:19:38 <DesertRose>   That's cool, Annie.
Nov 01 17:19:52 <Annie>   It's quite fun if I'm stuck.
Nov 01 17:20:18 <Annie>   Pick a card, or do a spread of a few, and see what springs to mind.
Nov 01 17:20:35 <Mistyck>   yep..I now use Runes though
Nov 01 17:20:47 *   Doughal (Mibbit@OWIRCN-7de7166f.fios.verizon.net) has joined
Nov 01 17:20:48 <The_Bee>   Jasta_Elf was working on a book involving the Norse gods of light and darkness--Baldur and Hodur.
Nov 01 17:20:51 <DesertRose>   Hi Doughal.
Nov 01 17:20:52 <jemler>   do you ward?
Nov 01 17:20:57 <The_Bee>   Hi Doughal
Nov 01 17:20:58 <Evie>   Hi Doughal!
Nov 01 17:20:58 <Mistyck>   Hey Doughal!
Nov 01 17:20:59 <Doughal>   Hello all
Nov 01 17:21:04 <jemler>   hi doughal
Nov 01 17:21:10 <revanne>   Hi Doughal
Nov 01 17:21:14 <DesertRose>   KK, Doughal is a new person on the forum. 
Nov 01 17:21:15 <The_Bee>   first time here, or old friend?
Nov 01 17:21:21 <Annie>   Hi Doughal.
Nov 01 17:21:29 <Mistyck>   yeah I have my house protected.  Saged and shielded...
Nov 01 17:21:49 <Doughal>   I joined the chat once ages ago to ask a question I think, but I'm pretty sure that was before the website.
Nov 01 17:21:50 <KK>   Welcome, Doughal.
Nov 01 17:22:11 <Mistyck>   I do a sphere for shielding...bubble type...lol
Nov 01 17:22:41 <Evie>   Doughal, were you the one with the question re Portals?
Nov 01 17:22:46 <jemler>   kk,did i wish you a happy birthday?
Nov 01 17:22:56 <Doughal>   that would be me!
Nov 01 17:23:10 <The_Bee>   In my imagination I have a Magic  Circle of flowers around my home.
Nov 01 17:23:11 *   Annie low whistles. Good memory.
Nov 01 17:23:26 <KK>   Possibly, Jemler.  My attendance has been a bit sporadic of late.
Nov 01 17:23:36 <Evie>   Seeing you reminded me, but since you're here, I'll let you ask so I don't get the question wrong. :-D
Nov 01 17:23:46 <jemler>   well if not, happy belated.
Nov 01 17:24:26 <Evie>   LOL! Not so good, Annie; he asked it on the Forum just this week. :-D
Nov 01 17:24:47 <Doughal>   So what is the protocol for asking questions?  Just blurt it out, or is there a queue?
Nov 01 17:24:55 <KK>   Belatedly, it was good.  My hubby and I drove over to the Greenbriar hotel last Sunday, for Sunday lunch and tea.  Great fall color was pretty much at its peak.  Interesting place.
Nov 01 17:24:56 <Annie>   Oh, I thought KK was remembering the one from 'ages ago'.
Nov 01 17:24:56 <Evie>   No, just ask
Nov 01 17:25:00 <The_Bee>   just blurt
Nov 01 17:25:31 <DesertRose>   We're not a formal bunch, Doughal.  Just throw it out there.
Nov 01 17:26:13 <Mistyck>   oh yeah...Happy birthday KK!  18th was the day right/
Nov 01 17:26:14 <Mistyck>   ?
Nov 01 17:26:15 <Evie>   We should also warn you we are only occasionally on-topic, so having new questions asked keeps the chat from totally devolving into silly puns and cats. ;-)
Nov 01 17:26:32 <DesertRose>   LOL, yes, that's entirely true, Evie.
Nov 01 17:26:45 <jemler>   i do the puns. (bad ones, usually)
Nov 01 17:26:56 <Doughal>   I was curious about portals and whether it was possible to make a portable one.  The Codex just says that it has to be in earth or stone, and since we know that some portals are in stone up in towers away from the ground, I wondered if it is possible to put one in a big stone that could be transported in a ship or large wagon?
Nov 01 17:26:56 <KK>   If we're not talking about heads on sticks and the like. 
Nov 01 17:27:11 <DesertRose>   Yes, and when jemler either makes a bad pun or an off-color joke, we tend to throw fish at him.
Nov 01 17:27:19 <Evie>   I haven't beheaded anything in at least a week or two
Nov 01 17:27:24 <DesertRose>   LOL
Nov 01 17:27:25 <revanne>   LOL
Nov 01 17:27:48 <jemler>   my jokes are never off-color! only suggestive!
Nov 01 17:27:52 <revanne>   And flat Alaric is still in one piece
Nov 01 17:28:07 <DesertRose>   Doughal, the beheading thing is because Evie makes Deryni action figures and sometimes performs surgery on them to get them the way she wants them.
Nov 01 17:28:15 <KK>   Wow, hadn't thought about that possibility, Doughal.  I should think it would take a lot of power to maintain it.
Nov 01 17:28:40 <DesertRose>   The fish throwing is because certain chat clients have the option to smack someone with a trout.
Nov 01 17:28:41 <Mistyck>   yeah it would unless one could come up with a way to sort of put it in "sleep mode"
Nov 01 17:28:42 <drakensis>   we saw how hard it was to maintain a ward while it was being moved
Nov 01 17:28:47 <The_Bee>   IIRC, Camber once made a Portal that could travel from one corner of a tower to another
Nov 01 17:28:49 <drakensis>   portals are presumably even harder
Nov 01 17:29:15 <DesertRose>   Yes, in Camber the Heretic he has the rotating portal in Grecotha.
Nov 01 17:29:21 <Doughal>   The_Bee, I had heard about that which was one of the reasons I thought it might be possible.
Nov 01 17:29:33 <Mistyck>   from the old altar
Nov 01 17:29:36 <jemler>   Doughal, Camber made a Portal that shifted position after each use. I think a Portable would not work. what if it were in a box while moving and someone tried to use it?
Nov 01 17:29:39 <Mistyck>   the black and white one
Nov 01 17:30:22 <Doughal>   KK, any idea on how much energy it would take, or some example on how to measure that?
Nov 01 17:30:49 <Evie>   OK, so how would the location-shifting Portal work, and would it be possible to tweak that spell a bit to make a portable one?
Nov 01 17:30:52 <revanne>   I get the feeling in the Camber books that there is a lot of esoteric knowledge that is just on the verge of being lost for ever.
Nov 01 17:31:00 <KK>   Portals take far more power to create than Wards, even Moving Wards.  Theoretically, I suppose it might have been possible, at least while Deryni learning was at its peak.
Nov 01 17:31:25 <jemler>   that's why that group that Michon belongs to is so interestig.
Nov 01 17:31:33 <The_Bee>   Joran and Evaine didn't know how Camber did it, iirc
Nov 01 17:31:36 <DesertRose>   I would think that to have a portable Portal, you'd have to have someone attending to it at all times to keep the energy up so that the Portal was usable.
Nov 01 17:31:51 <DesertRose>   Evaine would probably have been the one to figure it out if she'd lived long enough.
Nov 01 17:32:04 <Evie>   One thing about lost knowledge is that if the possibility exists, it can be rediscovered.  Concrete, for instance, was a lost art from the Roman times that had to be rediscovered in more modern times
Nov 01 17:32:08 <Mistyck>   yeah it would've been Evaine
Nov 01 17:32:13 <jemler>   you mean recharge it, like ward cubes?
Nov 01 17:32:17 <Evie>   and we still haven't quite figured out how to make it as durable as the Roman sort
Nov 01 17:32:20 <Mistyck>   or Camber himself had he lived longer
Nov 01 17:32:33 <jemler>   Se might know.
Nov 01 17:32:35 <DesertRose>   Yeah.
Nov 01 17:32:46 <revanne>   And Joram would have disapproved
Nov 01 17:32:51 <DesertRose>   Or Se might know who would know if he doesn't know himself.
Nov 01 17:33:04 <NavaWazr>   maybe Grecotha had old sources of power built in (imagines ancient solar cells that are connected to the black and white altar...)
Nov 01 17:33:18 <Mistyck>   tesla coils?
Nov 01 17:33:37 <revanne>   Deryni solar panels, interesting...
Nov 01 17:33:53 <jemler>   what about the altar at st neots?
Nov 01 17:33:57 <NavaWazr>   Sir Se's Solar maintenance
Nov 01 17:34:00 <DesertRose>   Maybe.  Grecotha seems to have been an interesting place.
Nov 01 17:34:15 <DesertRose>   I wish Dom Emrys had lived longer; he probably knew.
Nov 01 17:34:19 <Doughal>   What about those Tri-ports?  Where those permanent, or temporary?
Nov 01 17:34:20 <Mistyck>   the Ancient Astronaut theorists believe that something like Tesla coils were used to power the Egyptian pyramids
Nov 01 17:34:27 <The_Bee>   I wonder if Alaric will ever get around to making a new Portal, if he can't find the original.
Nov 01 17:34:28 <NavaWazr>   Grecotha has always been fascinating to me. Really wanted to go there as a kid
Nov 01 17:34:28 <KK>   Then again, it might be in that dubious category of things like Lewys ap Norfal and his ilk might have tried, or the two Torenthi princes who died/went mad.
Nov 01 17:34:34 <jemler>   tri-ports were a robism
Nov 01 17:34:59 <jemler>   we discussed that earlier.
Nov 01 17:35:07 <Doughal>   robism?
Nov 01 17:35:13 <Mistyck>   yep KK, always a possibility when trifling with powers that one doesn't know about
Nov 01 17:35:15 <DesertRose>   Possibly.  One of those "be careful what you ask for because you might get it" sorts of things.
Nov 01 17:35:35 <DesertRose>   Reference to the late Rob Reginald who helped compile Codex Derynianus.
Nov 01 17:35:37 <jemler>   co-author of the codex. he added stuff that wasn't canon.
Nov 01 17:35:46 <KK>   Triports?  Someone please refresh my memory.
Nov 01 17:36:01 <DesertRose>   And some truly silly names.
Nov 01 17:36:05 <jemler>   large portals to transfer troops and material.
Nov 01 17:36:15 <Doughal>   The Michaellines used them to supply themselves while in hiding.  (not sure if I spelled that right)
Nov 01 17:36:34 <jemler>   mentioned in codex.
Nov 01 17:36:45 <KK>   Speaking of the Codex, I think my e-editor is going to go for that expanded edition.
Nov 01 17:36:51 <jemler>   yes!
Nov 01 17:36:54 <DesertRose>   YAY!
Nov 01 17:36:55 <The_Bee>   Cool!
Nov 01 17:36:56 <Mistyck>   cool!
Nov 01 17:36:56 <Evie>   Oh good!
Nov 01 17:37:03 *   DesertRose happy-dances around the chat room.
Nov 01 17:37:06 <revanne>   Good!
Nov 01 17:37:09 <Doughal>   Yay expanded!
Nov 01 17:37:13 <Evie>   searchable, hopefully
Nov 01 17:37:15 <jemler>   i offer to proof-read!
Nov 01 17:37:25 <DesertRose>   Searchable would be fantastic.
Nov 01 17:37:46 <The_Bee>   and edit-able
Nov 01 17:37:49 <jemler>   evie, all books are searchable, one page at a time!
Nov 01 17:37:53 *   jemler ducks
Nov 01 17:37:59 <Evie>   Evie smacks Jemler upside the head with a mackerel
Nov 01 17:37:59 <DesertRose>   No, not editable, not without KK's approval.
Nov 01 17:38:11 <The_Bee>   True
Nov 01 17:38:16 *   DesertRose throws an entire school of goldfish at jemler.
Nov 01 17:38:24 <revanne>   And with a usable portal
Nov 01 17:38:33 *   revanne adds hopefully
Nov 01 17:38:39 <The_Bee>   LOL
Nov 01 17:38:40 <jemler>   i speak the truth, and i get fished.
Nov 01 17:38:51 <Evie>   Yes, we need a couple of working Portals so i can have tea with revanne and Demercia
Nov 01 17:38:51 <DesertRose>   Oh, you'll live, jemler. 
Nov 01 17:38:56 <Doughal>   I need to step away, time to start making dinner, but I'll leave myself logged in so I can see the responses.  I'll check back periodically. 
Nov 01 17:39:18 <Evie>   If you get disconnected, the chat will also be archived on the Forum later
Nov 01 17:39:18 <DesertRose>   Okay, enjoy your supper, Doughal.
Nov 01 17:39:20 <The_Bee>   Glad to see you. Enjoy your meal.
Nov 01 17:39:28 *   revanne begins planning a menu for afternoon tea
Nov 01 17:39:28 <Doughal>   I need a working pair of portals so I could drop my kids off at my parents to watch for an evening or two. 
Nov 01 17:39:37 <Evie>   we archive the chat transcripts whenever KK is in chat
Nov 01 17:39:42 <jemler>   what's the range of a Portal, assuming a user in good health, and not tired?
Nov 01 17:39:43 <DesertRose>   Yes, thanks for joining us and I'll post the chat transcript once KK has had enough of us. 
Nov 01 17:40:23 <Annie>   KK, I was at the UK FantasyCon last week. Brandon Sanderson was the Guest of Honour and he mentioned you in both the opening ceremony and his GoH speech.
Nov 01 17:40:46 <Annie>   I told him about chat (ever the optimist).
Nov 01 17:40:53 <Evie>   :-D
Nov 01 17:41:25 <KK>   Wow, I'm flattered.  But he's definitely an example of wannabe writer makes good.  Glad my advice was helpful to him.
Nov 01 17:41:48 <jemler>   he finished WoT for Robert Jordan.
Nov 01 17:42:02 <Annie>   Well, he said you spent an hour and a half talking to him, and it meant loads to him, so you did good.
Nov 01 17:42:26 <Annie>   I love his Stormlight Archive novels so far.
Nov 01 17:42:28 <KK>   Just goes to show that you never know when a pearl of (hopefully) wisdom will fall on fertile ground.
Nov 01 17:42:32 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 17:42:58 <The_Bee>   Robert Jordan hand-picked Sanderson to finish the Wheel of Time series.  So he must have made a favorable impression on him.
Nov 01 17:43:03 <DesertRose>   It also goes to show that kindness costs very little and has great rewards.
Nov 01 17:43:15 <Mistyck>   very true KK...
Nov 01 17:43:45 <Mistyck>   also very true DR
Nov 01 17:43:53 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 17:44:09 <jemler>   my pearls of wisdom come in the shape of a fortune cookie!
Nov 01 17:44:20 <DesertRose>   LOL, that doesn't surprise me, jemler.
Nov 01 17:44:28 <Annie>   
Nov 01 17:44:33 <DesertRose>   BRB
Nov 01 17:45:06 <Annie>   To hear Sanderson tell it, he was all set to say no to WoT.
Nov 01 17:45:14 <Annie>   But he was a fan.
Nov 01 17:45:24 <Annie>   And didn't want someone else to do it and mess it up.
Nov 01 17:45:30 <Evie>   :-D
Nov 01 17:45:39 <jemler>   so far he's done ok. i'm almost done with book 13.
Nov 01 17:45:54 <Annie>   (And he never actually met Robert Jordan. He was contacted by RJ's editor/wife after RJ died.)
Nov 01 17:46:10 <The_Bee>   I'm working on David Eddings's Belgariaaaaaaad.
Nov 01 17:46:27 <The_Bee>   I didn't know that, Annie.
Nov 01 17:47:05 <Annie>   Yeah, he talked about it in his GoH interview, but he's also talked about it on Writing Excuses quite a lot.
Nov 01 17:47:21 <Annie>   Which is an awesome podcast, by the way.
Nov 01 17:47:50 <jemler>   i'll have to find it. when does it come out?
Nov 01 17:49:05 <Annie>   If you go to writingexcuses.com (I think) there's like 8 or 9 years worth of it!
Nov 01 17:49:35 <Annie>   And I had to stop listening to it while I was out around the town as people kept looking at me funny.
Nov 01 17:49:43 <Annie>   (I was laughing a lot.)
Nov 01 17:49:51 <Evie>   LOL
Nov 01 17:49:53 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 17:50:07 <jemler>   one i listen to is funny.
Nov 01 17:50:48 <DesertRose>   Oh, BTW, Demercia says Hi but she's tired and went to bed early tonight.
Nov 01 17:51:02 <jemler>   does it come out once a week or what?
Nov 01 17:51:23 <Annie>   WE is Brandon Sanderson, Dan Wells, Mary Robinette Kowal who does Gaslamp type stuff and the guy from the Schlock Mercenaries web comic.
Nov 01 17:51:33 <Annie>   Yes, I think so, jemler.
Nov 01 17:51:33 <The_Bee>   who was it that said, Nobody enjoys writing; everybody enjoys having written"?
Nov 01 17:51:38 <DesertRose>   LOL
Nov 01 17:52:07 <Evie>   Besides me? :-D
Nov 01 17:52:13 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 17:52:46 <revanne>   
Nov 01 17:53:06 <The_Bee>   Also "The hardest part of writing is applying the seat of the pants to the seat of the chair."
Nov 01 17:53:18 <DesertRose>   LOL, Bee
Nov 01 17:53:32 <Evie>   LOL!  So true.
Nov 01 17:53:45 <DesertRose>   These days, the hardest part of writing is applying the fingers to the keyboard in the right program rather than goofing off online.
Nov 01 17:53:51 <KK>   That's an important piece of guidance.
Nov 01 17:53:58 <jemler>   use a pen.
Nov 01 17:53:59 <NavaWazr>   I agree with Desert Rose -
Nov 01 17:54:03 <revanne>   And not looking out of the window, deciding that you really need to clear out that cupboard, do the ironing etc etc
Nov 01 17:54:11 <NavaWazr>   it is so difficult to keep myself from distracting myself
Nov 01 17:54:13 <DesertRose>   Writing with a pen takes longer and is less legible.
Nov 01 17:54:14 <Evie>   If I used a pen, I wouldn't be able to read it to type it later!
Nov 01 17:54:17 <Annie>   NaNo started today!
Nov 01 17:54:24 <DesertRose>   So it did.
Nov 01 17:54:31 <KK>   Amazing, how fascinating cleaning can become.
Nov 01 17:54:36 <The_Bee>   NaNo who?
Nov 01 17:54:44 <Annie>   NaNoWriMo
Nov 01 17:54:44 <drakensis>   national novel writing month
Nov 01 17:54:46 <DesertRose>   National Novel Writing Month, Bee.
Nov 01 17:54:52 <drakensis>   I'm off to a good start
Nov 01 17:55:00 <jemler>   NaNo started on November 1st? What are the odds?
Nov 01 17:55:20 <Annie>   We got...
Nov 01 17:55:22 <DesertRose>   It's a challenge to write at least 50,000 words on a single story in November.
Nov 01 17:55:23 <The_Bee>   Good luck and energy to all you nano-novelists.
Nov 01 17:55:24 <Annie>   2115 words.
Nov 01 17:55:37 <revanne>   I can only write creatively with a pen or pencil - never using a pencil again. I wrote quite a lot a year or so ago and now can't read it because it's got too faint.
Nov 01 17:55:49 <DesertRose>   Oh no, revanne.
Nov 01 17:56:10 <Evie>   :-(
Nov 01 17:56:12 <DesertRose>   I have to write poetry longhand for the most part, but I can write prose at the computer.
Nov 01 17:56:15 <KK>   Use a soft pencil, at least #2.
Nov 01 17:56:39 <Annie>   This will be even more of a challenge, since it depends either on us having solo scenes or both being around at the same time.
Nov 01 17:56:48 <revanne>   I think I'll stick to a fountain pen.
Nov 01 17:56:52 <Annie>   Which is bad enough, without a 5 hour time difference.
Nov 01 17:56:58 <DesertRose>   Oh dear, yes, Annie.
Nov 01 17:57:05 <NavaWazr>   NaNo is a great mechanism. I will do it this year.
Nov 01 17:57:12 <The_Bee>   Whom are you working with, Annie?
Nov 01 17:57:45 <Annie>   A guy in WV I met on the Storium website, which is a collaborative storytelling website with a game format.
Nov 01 17:58:15 <Annie>   We've never met. Never even used video chat.
Nov 01 17:58:21 <Annie>   Always just text chat.
Nov 01 17:58:35 <Evie>   I'm hoping to have time to explore Storium again once I retire, since I enjoyed the test drive I did in your story world, Annie
Nov 01 17:58:47 <Annie>   I love Storium.
Nov 01 17:59:02 <Annie>   My favourite game just celebrated its year anniversary.
Nov 01 17:59:14 <Annie>   And probably close on a million words of storytelling.
Nov 01 17:59:30 <revanne>   Wow
Nov 01 17:59:37 <Annie>   And someone needs to run a Deryni game.
Nov 01 17:59:39 <DesertRose>   Holy cow!
Nov 01 17:59:41 <jemler>   that's not a story: that's history!
Nov 01 17:59:42 <The_Bee>   Sounds like a modern version of the old game of people sitting around a campfire taking turns telling an ongoing story.
Nov 01 17:59:50 <DesertRose>   Maybe bynw would be willing to start a Deryni game. 
Nov 01 17:59:55 <Annie>   Sort of, bee.
Nov 01 18:00:09 <DesertRose>   I think he's at work right now, though.
Nov 01 18:00:24 <Annie>   Everyone plays a character and there's a narrator (kind of like a GM, but not exactly).
Nov 01 18:00:37 <DesertRose>   Cool!
Nov 01 18:00:39 <Annie>   And you build the story together with the narrator guiding it along.
Nov 01 18:00:42 <Evie>   It's like a cross between a role-playing game and a round robin story
Nov 01 18:01:28 <Annie>   And the story I've been playing for a year is about a big old mansion in New Hampshire that becomes a sort of safe house for supernaturals.
Nov 01 18:01:51 <Annie>   And is a bridge to other worlds/dimensions.
Nov 01 18:02:10 <Annie>   And I'm playing a really dorky empathy who is a bunch of fun to play.
Nov 01 18:02:17 <Annie>   empath, even
Nov 01 18:02:18 <The_Bee>   Can anyone join in, or do you need an invitation?
Nov 01 18:02:23 <jemler>   you mean empath?
Nov 01 18:03:04 <Annie>   A basic membership while it's still in gamma test is $10, or you can be directly invited to a particular game by someone who's playing already.
Nov 01 18:03:08 <jemler>   what kind of supernaturals?
Nov 01 18:03:49 <Annie>   We have a ghoul (and another ghoul NPC), a kitsune, an empath, a scanner-type character
Nov 01 18:03:58 <DesertRose>   It sounds a little like a game version of that show, Being Human.
Nov 01 18:04:19 <DesertRose>   Which IIRC, you were a big fan of, Annie.
Nov 01 18:05:37 <Annie>   Uh
Nov 01 18:05:46 <DesertRose>   Maybe I'm confused?
Nov 01 18:06:03 <Annie>   A whole load of other characters I can't remember right now.
Nov 01 18:06:22 <Annie>   And I'm being called into a video chat so I'm gonna have to go. Sorry.
Nov 01 18:06:30 <jemler>   highlander type immortal? mystic?
Nov 01 18:06:30 <DesertRose>   Okay, see you, Annie.
Nov 01 18:06:33 <KK>   What's a kitsune? 
Nov 01 18:06:44 <Annie>   It's a Japanese fox demon.
Nov 01 18:06:53 <The_Bee>   Bye, Annie. Glad you came.
Nov 01 18:06:59 <Annie>   She's a lot of fun. I love our kitsune.
Nov 01 18:07:04 <KK>   Ah, I knew it was Japanese.  I remember now.
Nov 01 18:07:06 <revanne>   Bye Annie
Nov 01 18:07:08 <jemler>   nite annie
Nov 01 18:07:15 <Annie>   See you guys. Sorry for bailing.
Nov 01 18:07:16 <Evie>   g'night Annie
Nov 01 18:07:17 <Annie>   Night
Nov 01 18:07:18 <DesertRose>   Night, Annie.
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Nov 01 18:07:27 <Mistyck>   take care Annie
Nov 01 18:07:58 <DesertRose>   I can hear my kettle getting ready to boil, BRB tea
Nov 01 18:09:33 <DesertRose>   Mm, Constant Comment smells lovely. 
Nov 01 18:09:56 <KK>   BRB
Nov 01 18:10:20 <revanne>   Have lots of lovely pics from Flat Alaric's travels - just need to get my head around Flickr and I'll start posting.
Nov 01 18:10:25 <DesertRose>   YAY!
Nov 01 18:10:32 <Evie>   I like Constant Comment
Nov 01 18:10:43 <revanne>   ??
Nov 01 18:10:48 <Evie>   I can help you through the upload if you need assistance
Nov 01 18:10:54 <DesertRose>   Me too.  If my pantry runs out of it, that's a crisis.
Nov 01 18:11:03 <Evie>   Constant Comment is an orange spice tea, revanne
Nov 01 18:11:10 <DesertRose>   It's a blend of tea, revanne, with orange rind and spices in with the tea leaves.
Nov 01 18:11:12 <jemler>   brb dinner
Nov 01 18:11:19 <revanne>   Mmmmmmmmm
Nov 01 18:11:36 <DesertRose>   It's yummy.  It's made by a company called Bigelow, which I think is US-based.
Nov 01 18:11:51 <Evie>   Next time I mail you something, I'll try to remember to toss in some CC tea bags
Nov 01 18:12:06 <NavaWazr>   mmmm need to start drying my orange peels and then add to tea
Nov 01 18:12:07 <revanne>   I've got to put them in dropbox first so it's just a matter of time but hope to have a bit of that precious commodity tomorrow.
Nov 01 18:12:21 <revanne>   That would be lovely
Nov 01 18:12:27 <DesertRose>   Be careful with that, Evie.  You'll make revanne as much of a CC addict as I am. 
Nov 01 18:12:39 <Evie>   :-D
Nov 01 18:13:17 <revanne>   Me to DH - I need to go to the US. Why dear? To get some tea-bags.
Nov 01 18:13:18 <Evie>   Why do you need to put them in Dropbox first, revanne?
Nov 01 18:13:29 <DesertRose>   LOL, revanne.
Nov 01 18:13:52 <Evie>   You could really baffle him by coming to my local Publix and buying some PG Tips
Nov 01 18:14:08 <revanne>   Because my bleep bleep phone won't let me access flickr and it's probably easier to get them across to my laptop than throwing my phone at the wall.
Nov 01 18:14:24 <Evie>   Ah
Nov 01 18:15:21 <Evie>   I've not tried posting something from Dropbox to Flickr, but can you temporarily store them on your hard drive and then just delete them from there once they are safely uploaded?
Nov 01 18:15:42 <KK>   Back.  I had to turn on some lights in the rest of the house.  It's gotten dark while I was chatting.
Nov 01 18:15:45 <Evie>   because it's very easy to upload to Flickr from the hard drive
Nov 01 18:15:56 <revanne>   The most expensive PG tips in history - or you could just throw some in a harbour in Boston and wait for them to float across.
Nov 01 18:16:07 <Evie>   LOL!
Nov 01 18:16:23 <revanne>   I would think so yes, Evie. I'll give it a go tomorrow
Nov 01 18:18:41 <Evie>   Though Dropbox also stores synchronized files in a folder on your hard drive, at least if you have it set up like mine, so you can probably copy and paste the photos from that folder to Flickr.  I just think it might be harder to do it from the Dropbox website to flickr
Nov 01 18:19:52 *   DesertRose has her cup of Constant Comment now.  Yum!
Nov 01 18:20:39 <Evie>   Yummy
Nov 01 18:20:53 <revanne>   smells lovely
Nov 01 18:20:56 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 18:21:20 <Evie>   I need to save this surplice pattern so I can print it in 1:6 scale tomorrow
Nov 01 18:21:32 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 18:21:40 <Evie>   My mini-priests need at least one surplice to share between them
Nov 01 18:21:59 <DesertRose>   Shouldn't be too difficult to construct, so perhaps you could make them each one in time.
Nov 01 18:22:08 <Evie>   eventually
Nov 01 18:22:11 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 18:22:18 <Mistyck>   Question:  Did anyone have purple handfire?
Nov 01 18:22:35 <KK>   Useful vestment.
Nov 01 18:22:37 <DesertRose>   I think Denis Arilan's is blue-violet.
Nov 01 18:22:44 <Evie>   What color was Denis's handfire?
Nov 01 18:23:03 <The_Bee>   I suppose any color would be possible.
Nov 01 18:23:13 <Mistyck>   ahh...was wondering because I remember most colors of the rainbow but not violet or purple
Nov 01 18:23:23 <The_Bee>   or orange
Nov 01 18:23:37 <Mistyck>   true there is no one with orange that we know of
Nov 01 18:23:40 <Evie>   In Deryni Magic, I think I remember reading that a Deryni could change the color of their handfire but most tended to gravitate to a specific color
Nov 01 18:23:49 <DesertRose>   That sounds right, Evie.
Nov 01 18:24:04 <Mistyck>   I would gravitate to purple
Nov 01 18:24:08 <jemler>   rimmel the architect remembered a woman glowing purple i think.
Nov 01 18:24:09 <Evie>   and that Healers tend towards green
Nov 01 18:24:21 <Mistyck>   ahh...
Nov 01 18:24:26 <Evie>   but not always. Dhugal is a Healer but IIRC his was either golden or silvery
Nov 01 18:24:26 <Mistyck>   hey Jemler, that's cool
Nov 01 18:24:37 <Mistyck>   Dhugal was silver
Nov 01 18:24:45 <Mistyck>   Duncan was Gold
Nov 01 18:24:55 <Evie>   Yes, he certainly is. ;-)
Nov 01 18:25:00 *   Evie is a Duncan fanbabe
Nov 01 18:25:12 <Mistyck>   
Nov 01 18:25:17 <The_Bee>   someone in chat that it might depend on a child's favorite color when they're learning.  Though Haldanes all seem to go for red.
Nov 01 18:25:30 <Mistyck>   yep Haldanes were all red
Nov 01 18:25:39 <Mistyck>   Alaric of course was Green
Nov 01 18:25:48 <Mistyck>   Charissa blue
Nov 01 18:25:56 <The_Bee>   a genetric component? or family tradition?
Nov 01 18:26:08 <Mistyck>   interesting thought there Bee
Nov 01 18:27:23 <Evie>   I had a friend in college who was blind, but she had some limited vision until age 8 or so, and so she tended to associate voices with colors to identify them. She said I had a "rose" voice, IIRC.
Nov 01 18:27:24 <KK>   Might be something to do with how they were taught.  Or perhaps some colors are easier to form than others, or perhaps to do with wavelength in scientific parlance.
Nov 01 18:27:52 <jemler>   the haldanes were always crimson.
Nov 01 18:27:56 <Evie>   So maybe I'd have rose handfire.  :-)
Nov 01 18:28:22 <DesertRose>   Mine would probably be purple or blue.
Nov 01 18:28:31 <Mistyck>   I like the idea of wavelengths...kinda like vibrations from the Hindu tradition
Nov 01 18:28:40 <DesertRose>   DD's would definitely be blue.
Nov 01 18:28:43 <The_Bee>   blue-green for me
Nov 01 18:29:08 <Evie>   If going by color preferences, mine would be blue
Nov 01 18:29:54 <Mistyck>   Purple for my school colors.  Forgot to mention KK, I'm a senior at the University of Washington, Seattle campus.  I'm majoring in Geology.
Nov 01 18:30:11 <Evie>   when I was a teenager, my favorite color was a silvery light blue.  Now it's more of a deep royal blue
Nov 01 18:30:16 <The_Bee>   Could the choice of color be subconscious in some cases?
Nov 01 18:30:36 <Mistyck>   that sounds like Michaline blue Evie
Nov 01 18:30:46 <DesertRose>   Actually, if we go by favorite color in childhood (when one would have learned to form handfire), mine would be some shade of pink.
Nov 01 18:30:53 <revanne>   loud heavy sigh from dog telling me I ought to be going to bed and leaving her in peace. So will say goodnight all.
Nov 01 18:30:54 <DesertRose>   My color preferences changed in adulthood.
Nov 01 18:30:57 <The_Bee>   I don't think Dhugal consciously chose gold.
Nov 01 18:31:05 <DesertRose>   Night, revanne.  Rest well.
Nov 01 18:31:06 <Mistyck>   take care revanne
Nov 01 18:31:07 <Evie>   and oddly enough, if I put my hand against a white surface and stare at it long enough, it seems to be outlined by blue more often than not
Nov 01 18:31:11 <The_Bee>   nighters, Tevanne
Nov 01 18:31:11 <drakensis>   night revanne
Nov 01 18:31:17 <The_Bee>   Revanne too
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Nov 01 18:31:29 <KK>   Goodnight, Revanne.
Nov 01 18:31:31 <Mistyck>   that IS your real aura Evie
Nov 01 18:31:37 <Mistyck>   that part is real life stuff too
Nov 01 18:32:20 <Mistyck>   who remembers Rain?  She used to teach psionics
Nov 01 18:32:56 <Mistyck>   she is Canadian...First Nations...not sure which one though
Nov 01 18:32:58 <NavaWazr>   would dna affect the color? thinking The Haldane would full crimson, and the lesser Haldanes would have crimson tones or a crimson edge
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Nov 01 18:33:21 <DesertRose>   Hmm, that's an interesting thought, NavaWazr.
Nov 01 18:33:25 <DesertRose>   Rehi Bee.
Nov 01 18:33:30 <Mistyck>   wb Bee
Nov 01 18:33:31 <Evie>   hi Bee
Nov 01 18:33:40 <KK>   Geology, Mistyck?  Cool!  Any plans or aspirations for using it, or just because you like rocks?
Nov 01 18:33:47 <mib_y3p6zu>   Thanks.  What was Nava Wazr'sa thought?
Nov 01 18:34:01 <DesertRose>   Would DNA affect the color of someone's handfire?
Nov 01 18:34:48 <Evie>   am attempting to read through two cats
Nov 01 18:34:50 <Mistyck>   both actually.  I am planning on becoming a hazard mitigation consultant.  I love this area with its glacial geology and of course, being the west coast, earthquakes and landslides and tsunamies
Nov 01 18:34:55 *   mib_y3p6zu is now known as The_Bee
Nov 01 18:35:45 <Mistyck>   oh and volcanoes and lahars...Mt Rainier is only a few miles from my house
Nov 01 18:36:43 <The_Bee>   Much of New England's geology was shaped by glaciers.
Nov 01 18:36:49 <KK>   That's definitely a good part of the world for that sort of training.  Good luck!
Nov 01 18:37:09 <Mistyck>   yep...
Nov 01 18:37:18 <Mistyck>   thanks KK!
Nov 01 18:39:15 <NavaWazr>   maybe it was the Airsid who stabilized Gwynedd, protected it from the volcanoes in the icy lands to the north....
Nov 01 18:39:46 <NavaWazr>   although maybe their spells were works in progress, given how cold it seems to be in so many of the stories....
Nov 01 18:40:00 <jemler>   absorbing and redirecting energy, that the changers of chandris?
Nov 01 18:40:13 <NavaWazr>   exactly
Nov 01 18:40:24 <Mistyck>   from the mythical island?
Nov 01 18:40:25 <The_Bee>   Do the British Isles in our world have much volcanic activity?
Nov 01 18:40:49 <Mistyck>   no
Nov 01 18:40:54 <jemler>   they'd have to absorb the energy somehow, ans atore it unyil they could channel it.
Nov 01 18:41:06 <NavaWazr>   no volcanic activity that I know of. I was thinking of the Icelandic islands which aren't that far away
Nov 01 18:41:10 <Mistyck>   but you do have the Druids and Stonehenge
Nov 01 18:41:20 <Mistyck>   and the mythical island of Hi Brasil
Nov 01 18:41:21 <jemler>   ley lines
Nov 01 18:41:25 <KK>   I'd think that earth magics would have been right up the alley for the Airsid.  And weather magic.
Nov 01 18:41:32 <Mistyck>   yep jemler...ley lines
Nov 01 18:41:44 <NavaWazr>   more secrets that might be found deep inside Grecotha
Nov 01 18:41:57 <Mistyck>   Iceland is a hot spot as well as on a spreading ridge
Nov 01 18:42:45 <Mistyck>   the Atlantic mid-ocean ridge
Nov 01 18:43:37 <NavaWazr>   maybe they were working on hot water and plumbing magic
Nov 01 18:44:15 <jemler>   back
Nov 01 18:44:20 <KK>   That would have been useful.  Poor servants wouldn't have to lug hit water up all those stairs.
Nov 01 18:44:20 <DesertRose>   Sorry, DD phoned me so I wasn't paying attention for a minute there.
Nov 01 18:44:35 <NavaWazr>   (envisions Kelson and pals stumbling through a door and discovering the equivalent of a modern bathroom
Nov 01 18:44:44 <KK>   hot water
Nov 01 18:45:31 <The_Bee>   and flushable garderobes.
Nov 01 18:45:34 <KK>   Well, if the Romans could do hot water baths....
Nov 01 18:45:37 <NavaWazr>   or it could be found deep inside the space that is the Council Chambers
Nov 01 18:45:54 <Evie>   There was hot and cold plumbing in ancient Santorini
Nov 01 18:46:06 <DesertRose>   The Romans knew how to build useful stuff, to be sure.
Nov 01 18:46:07 <jemler>   do toilets flush on the left in uk?
Nov 01 18:46:09 <Mistyck>   and ancient India and Sumeria
Nov 01 18:46:20 <Evie>   running hot and cold water, that is. The water was heated by geothermal activity
Nov 01 18:49:13 *   DesertRose drops a pin.
Nov 01 18:49:41 <Evie>   contemplating dessert
Nov 01 18:49:45 <DesertRose>   Am I still here and everyone's just gone quiet, or has my connection gone down?
Nov 01 18:49:50 <jemler>   a pin drops in a chat room, and nobody hears it!
Nov 01 18:49:51 <DesertRose>   Yum, dessert. 
Nov 01 18:49:51 <Evie>   You're here
Nov 01 18:49:55 <DesertRose>   Okay, cool.
Nov 01 18:49:58 <DesertRose>   Thanks.
Nov 01 18:50:16 <KK>   I was just thinking that Deryni could probably heat up rocks to put into a liquid to warm it.
Nov 01 18:50:34 <drakensis>   that'd be handy for hot tea
Nov 01 18:50:38 <DesertRose>   That'd be a lot of energy drain for a hot bath or a cuppa. 
Nov 01 18:50:45 <jemler>   rhysel didn't need to do that.
Nov 01 18:50:50 <Evie>   I'm just distracted by thoughts of sweet food, trying to find a two-piece Star Trek TNG uniform pattern, looking over my chapter of BoP prior to posting tonight, and two cats being cats
Nov 01 18:50:53 <The_Bee>   KK, have you any idea what were the vapors in the caves of the Servants of St. Camber--theones that caused Kelson's dream/visions/whatever?
Nov 01 18:51:17 <KK>   Hallucinogenic, to be sure.
Nov 01 18:51:22 <DesertRose>   Whee!
Nov 01 18:51:37 <DesertRose>   Or not so much, depending on the nature of one's hallucination/vision.
Nov 01 18:51:46 <jemler>   there were torches, and methane is flammable, so not methane.
Nov 01 18:52:15 <Evie>   unobtainium gas
Nov 01 18:52:18 <DesertRose>   LOL
Nov 01 18:52:37 <jemler>   eatem cheesium gas
Nov 01 18:52:41 <The_Bee>   Are there any natural-occurring hallucinogenic gasses in real life?
Nov 01 18:52:52 <KK>   What were the gasses that caused visions for the Oracles?
Nov 01 18:53:01 *   DesertRose smacks jemler with a mackerel.
Nov 01 18:53:20 <The_Bee>   Dunno
Nov 01 18:53:39 <Mistyck>   magic mushrooms are hallucinogenic and would grow in caves
Nov 01 18:53:51 <Mistyck>   they actually grow wild here
Nov 01 18:54:03 <KK>   Me either.  But I think that's the sort of thing I was thinking of, when I wrote that scene.
Nov 01 18:54:04 <NavaWazr>   maybe combo of steam and mushroom dust?
Nov 01 18:54:13 <jemler>   a shaman would know that.
Nov 01 18:54:18 <DesertRose>   Possible, LOL, NavaWazr.
Nov 01 18:54:28 <KK>   Not mushrooms.  The gasses in the Oracle caves.
Nov 01 18:54:38 <Evie>   was trying to look that up. Was it at Delphi?
Nov 01 18:54:38 <Mistyck>   hehe of course and especially one who is sitting in Seattle area lol
Nov 01 18:54:45 <Mistyck>   Delphi
Nov 01 18:54:51 <Mistyck>   but that was Apollo
Nov 01 18:54:54 <The_Bee>   I'll try to remember to look it up.
Nov 01 18:57:07 <KK>   Yep, Delphic Oracle.  And there were others, too.
Nov 01 18:57:14 <jemler>   bout every 100 years a major earthquake rattles the faults. The faults are heated by adjacent rocks and the hydrocarbon deposits stored in them are vaporized. These gases mix with ground water and emerge around springs.
Nov 01 18:57:15 <jemler>   De Boer conducted an analysis of these hydrocarbon gases in spring water near the site of the Delphi temple. He found that one is ethylene, which has a sweet smell and produces a narcotic effect described as a floating or disembodied euphoria.
Nov 01 18:57:28 <jemler>   oracle os delphi
Nov 01 18:57:31 <Evie>   ethylene gas
Nov 01 18:58:04 <KK>   Sounds plausible to me.
Nov 01 18:58:07 <jemler>   ethyl? fill er up!
Nov 01 18:58:19 <NavaWazr>   http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/articles/article/theoracleatdelphinotjusthotair/
Nov 01 18:58:34 <NavaWazr>   Emma Gatti's article on the subject - it's not just hot air...
Nov 01 18:58:48 <The_Bee>   When did De Boer conduct his experiments?
Nov 01 18:59:01 <Mistyck>   sounds definitely theoretically possible
Nov 01 19:00:18 <KK>   Interesting article. 
Nov 01 19:00:29 <NavaWazr>   De Boer's study was published in August 2000 or 2001 in Geology according to National Geographic article on the subject
Nov 01 19:00:55 <jemler>   that's right
Nov 01 19:00:59 <NavaWazr>   Emma Gatti's article seemed the easiest to read (of the ones I've found so far)
Nov 01 19:02:29 <Mistyck>   I'll see if I can find the peer reviewed articles on the subject from my school's EBSCO Host
Nov 01 19:02:30 <jemler>   did rhydian have kelson child?
Nov 01 19:03:00 <The_Bee>   If she did, would she tell him?
Nov 01 19:03:09 <Evie>   Oh, KK, where should I look for inspirations on Torenthi costume? A friend of mine found a doll with jointed knees at the thrift and bought him for me. Turns out it's a Michael Jackson figure, so I figure the best way to fit him into the Deryniverse would be as a Moor from Torenth
Nov 01 19:03:25 <Evie>   https://flic.kr/p/zZJypD
Nov 01 19:03:31 <KK>   Wow.  Well, on that note, I should probably sign off for tonight.  (Still wading through the month's accumulation of mail from the trip to California.)  See you next week at our usual time of 7 PM.
Nov 01 19:03:46 <jemler>   nite kk.
Nov 01 19:03:47 <DesertRose>   Okay, KK, thanks for coming to see us!  Have a good week!
Nov 01 19:03:51 <drakensis>   night
Nov 01 19:03:51 <Evie>   goodnight KK
Nov 01 19:04:05 <The_Bee>   Have agood week, KK. Thanks for coming.
Nov 01 19:04:57 <Evie>   I need to get BoP 18 ready for upload in a bit
Nov 01 19:05:16 <KK>   Evie, look at Hungarian and Russian fashions of the time, blended with El Cid-type Moorish emirs.
Nov 01 19:05:16 <NavaWazr>   thanks for everything you do KK, be well
Nov 01 19:05:19 <The_Bee>   Evie, how about looking at traditional Greek or Russian attire?
Nov 01 19:05:31 <Evie>   Ooh, will do!  Thanks.
Nov 01 19:05:39 <DesertRose>   Oh, that sounds super cool!
Nov 01 19:05:49 <NavaWazr>   Evie, how about posting first, and then looking at costumes (not that I am at all anxious for the next chapter...)
Nov 01 19:05:51 <Evie>   I still need to find El Cid to watch
Nov 01 19:05:55 <KK>   He could be an Azim, perhaps.
Nov 01 19:05:59 <NavaWazr>   (benefit of print books, I can read the whole thing)
Nov 01 19:06:02 <Evie>   LOL, Nava!
Nov 01 19:06:07 <jemler>   good movie. long movie.
Nov 01 19:06:15 <DesertRose>   We think he's a bit young-looking for Rasoul.  Is Azim younger?
Nov 01 19:06:22 <NavaWazr>   Yes!!! another relative, clad in rich colors
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Nov 01 19:06:26 <KK>   Excellent movie, for the costumes at least.
Nov 01 19:06:33 <Evie>   Remember, my littles are living in the mid to late 1130s
Nov 01 19:06:45 <NavaWazr>   light fabrics for the weather
Nov 01 19:07:04 <NavaWazr>   ok.... maybe rich colored accessories, like a long flowing head scarf
Nov 01 19:07:04 <Evie>   but maybe he's an ambassador sent from Liam's court
Nov 01 19:07:23 <KK>   That's true.  But the costume descriptions would work for later, especially in Torenth.  (Look at the Torenthi descriptions in KKB.)
Nov 01 19:07:34 <DesertRose>   
Nov 01 19:07:36 <Evie>   If I can find my copy. *sigh*
Nov 01 19:07:43 <KK>   And on that note....
Nov 01 19:07:51 <Mistyck>   g'nite KK
Nov 01 19:07:53 <Mistyck>   take care
Nov 01 19:08:00 <Evie>   I think it lost itself so Kelson and Araxie could honeymoon
Nov 01 19:08:03 *   KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
Nov 01 19:08:04 <DesertRose>   Okay, until next week, KK!  Nighters and have a good week!
Nov 01 19:08:17 <The_Bee>   good week, KK
Nov 01 19:08:20 <KK>   Nighters.
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