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Happy Christmas
« on: December 24, 2014, 07:11:01 pm »
Just come in from midnight mass - happy Christmas everyone :)
Let God rise up, let his enemies be scattered;
    let those who hate him flee before him.
As smoke is driven away, so drive them away;
    as wax melts before the fire,
    let the wicked perish before God.
(Psalm 68 vv1-2)

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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2014, 08:12:26 pm »
Happy Christmas to those for whom it's already Christmas.  (We've got a few hours yet on the Eastern seaboard of the USA.)

I hope Santa brings you all the goodies!  :)
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2014, 11:44:45 pm »
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

So far it has been a very pleasant Christmas Eve.

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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2014, 08:21:31 am »
Happy Christmas to those who like their Christmases happy, and Merry Christmas to those who keep them merry!  ;)
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2014, 12:57:31 pm »
May your lights twinkle brightly, your feasts be bountiful and tasty, and your hearts find peace.

Merry (Happy) Christmas, everyone!
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2014, 07:47:14 pm »
I hope everyone has had a wonderful, blessed Christmas day!

I must ask, since this is the first time I have heard the expression Happy Christmas. I must ask if this is British? I have always thought that Merry Christmas was Victorian or older.
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2014, 02:04:47 am »
Back home and about to hit the hay after spending a cozy Christmas Eve at my sister Ann's house in Monterey and spending Christmas Day at my brother's Alan's house in Santa Cruz.  We opened lots of presents, ate a GREAT cracked crab feast in the mid-afternoon, then took a nice walk before coming back for our cake. We ate a lot, talked a lot and laughed a lot and everyone was in a good mood.  That's not always the case at our family celebrations.  Weather clear, beautiful, windy and chilly.  :) Christmas is now successfully adjourned.  I hope all of you had a happy day today, wherever you did your celebrating.

Meeeerrrryyyy Christmas!

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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2014, 02:43:15 am »
Merry Christmas is definitely still used in the bit of the UK I inhabit - North-West England, not quite Wales - and is definitely old. Thus the traditional song "We wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year" goes on to speak of figgy pudding - not Christmas pudding so probably pre-Victorian.

In my experience happy and merry are used more or less interchangeably. I always use happy because merry as an adjective on its own, in my part of the UK at least, has definite overtones of inebriation. "She got a bit merry at the office Christmas party" does not just mean she had a good time!!

I hate it when I realise that I'm channelling Denis Arilan  ::)
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As smoke is driven away, so drive them away;
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2014, 09:22:13 am »


I hate it when I realise that I'm channelling Denis Arilan  ::)

LOL!   Well, at least Denis has his good sides.  Just channel those and avoid becoming too much of a curmudgeon.  ;D
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2014, 11:08:14 am »
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    I hate it when I realise that I'm channelling Denis Arilan  ::)


LOL!   Well, at least Denis has his good sides.  Just channel those and avoid becoming too much of a curmudgeon.  ;D

LOL, No this is not channeling Denis Arilan at all. Well maybe! But I have discovered the answer here:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2013/12/merry-christmas-vs-happy-christmas/

Hoping that this is accurate, it says "The greeting “Merry Christmas” dates back to at least 1565, in which year the author of the Hereford Municipal Manuscript wrote “And thus I comytt you to god, who send you a mery Christmas & many.”"

However, it goes on to say "Queen Elizabeth II wishes British subjects a “Happy Christmas” in her annual Christmas broadcasts, and the phrase enjoys a broad general currency the U.K.... Queen Elizabeth is said to prefer “happy” to “merry” because she dislikes “merry’s” connotation of boisterousness, even slight intoxication."

What is funny is that being a non-drinking, Californian, I have never associated 'being merry' with 'being intoxicated'; boisterous perhaps, but not drunk. So, there is a little trivia for the holiday.  ;D

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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2014, 12:49:27 pm »
It's good to know that I agree with HM.  :)
Let God rise up, let his enemies be scattered;
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As smoke is driven away, so drive them away;
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2014, 03:08:49 pm »
I suspect the use of "Merry Christmas" in "Merrie Old England" has fallen casualty to the euphemistic meaning of the word which has become more prevalent in this century, rather than the original meaning of the word.  See here for an etymological history of the word "merry": http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/merry
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2014, 03:33:34 pm »
And in the US, we don't really use "merry" anywhere but in the phrase, "Merry Christmas," although I have heard "What in the merry hell is [that/going on here/etc.]?!"  Not sure of the origins of that phrase, LOL.  :)  The "merry hell" usage seems to be an old-fashioned Southern thing, but I could be mistaken on that.
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2014, 04:32:24 pm »
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"What in the merry hell is [that/going on here/etc.]?!"

 :o Oh! That is a new phrase for me! lol. Nothing like a jolly hell to fall into. eeck!

Typical that words get new meanings as time goes by. I like the first two definitions in wiktionary and can only shake my head at number 5.  ;)
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  1.Jolly and full of high spirits
  2.Festive and full of fun and laughter
  5.(euphemistic) drunk; tipsy
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Re: Happy Christmas
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2014, 06:10:10 pm »
And in the US, we don't really use "merry" anyalthoughwhere but in the phrase, "Merry Christmas," although I have heard "What in the merry hell is [that/going on here/etc.]?!"  Not sure of the origins of that phrase, LOL.  :)  The "merry hell" usage seems to be an old-fashioned Southern thing, but I could be mistaken on that.

The terms "merrymaking" or "making merry" are sometimes used,  and not always with the implication of getting inebriated, although of course some use it to mean that as well, especially those who can't conceive of having a good time without alcohol or other mind-altering substances being somehow involved.
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