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KK Chat -- 21 September 2014
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:31:37 pm »
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:28 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:30 PM] <DesertRose> This is Aerlys' nice way of calling CM an adrenaline junkie. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:32 PM] <jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:33 PM] <Jerusha> Yea!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:33 PM] <DesertRose> hi KK!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:35 PM] <The_Bee> Hi KK!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:39 PM] <Jerusha> Hi KK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:40 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi KK!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:40 PM] <DesertRose> The chocolate sauce worked, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:44 PM] <Shiral> Ahah! Greetings honorable Katherine of the House of Kurtz
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:45 PM] <Aerlys> No, I can just relate
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:50 PM] <Aerlys> Hi KK!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:53 PM] <Shiral> Looks that way, DR. =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:21:55 PM] <KK> Hello, all. Momentary problems getting in tonight.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:22:09 PM] <cynicalmedic> I freely admit that DR - that's why I'm still in it at my advanced age.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:22:09 PM] <The_Bee> We've all had those.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:22:17 PM] <Shiral> We're happy to see you, KK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:22:17 PM] <DesertRose> KK, bynw is working on finding an alternative to Mibbit. As soon as we have something good, we'll post a link to RC.com.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:22:44 PM] <DesertRose> But the one he's found so far is a very new open-source program and it's not quite ready for prime time, although it looks promising.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:22:54 PM] <Shiral> Mibbit always sounds to me like a frog with a weird speech impediment
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:22:56 PM] Quit Evie has left this server (Ping timeout: 121 seconds).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:04 PM] <Jerusha> Mibbit got Evie
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:06 PM] <jemler> i use mirc
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:12 PM] <Aerlys> mibbit strikes again
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:15 PM] <DesertRose> Evie's having connection issues today. That's about the third time she's pinged since she got here.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:22 PM] <cynicalmedic> Have you looked at Delphi Forums, DR? They have chat and message boards.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:32 PM] <Aerlys> I use the alternate chat address bynw posted...
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:34 PM] Join Evie has joined this channel (Mibbit@OWIRCN-e8ce5021.al.charter.com).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:35 PM] <Shiral> I do too. Got too frustrated with Mibbit, although its evidently still thin-skinned about criticism
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:36 PM] <KK> I can usually get right in, but tonight, for some reason, it didn't want to connect.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:44 PM] <Evie> FINALLY!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:49 PM] <Jerusha> wb, Evie
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:49 PM] <DesertRose> That's not really my department, but bynw will see this chat log. I'll also send him a PM about it, CM.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:54 PM] <DesertRose> Rehi, Evie
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:23:55 PM] <The_Bee> I used to use mirc, but it isn't on my current computer. I've seldom missed it.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:01 PM] <Shiral> Too late Evie, you missed the big news bombshell.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:04 PM] <The_Bee> WB, Evie
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:05 PM] <Evie> I couldn't get back in using Icechat, so I had to go to the forum and use Mibbit
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:19 PM] <KK> I also used to use mirc, and it also isn't on this new(er) machine.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:31 PM] <Shiral> How are your eyes doing, KK?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:42 PM] <KK> What news bombshell?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:43 PM] <DesertRose> I like Konversation myself, but that's a Linux based program that you have to fiddle with to get it to work on a Windows platform.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:53 PM] <Evie> You can probably find mIRC online and download it, KK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:54 PM] <Shiral> I'm teasing Evie, KK =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:24:55 PM] <The_Bee> My mibbit has a link to IRC. I'm afraid to try it .
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:18 PM] <KK> Ah. Eyes are doing great. I went to an event last night with no glasses at all!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:20 PM] <Aerlys> mibbit just refuses to let me in. period
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:24 PM] <DesertRose> Yay, KK.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:34 PM] <Shiral> That sounds much better than two weeks ago!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:38 PM] <Evie> good!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:39 PM] <cynicalmedic> That's good news, KK.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:48 PM] <DesertRose> Have they moved up your surgery date for the other eye, KK, or are you stuck with waiting until October still?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:50 PM] <Jerusha> Excellent!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:25:52 PM] <Aerlys> great news, KK. must be so nice
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:26:03 PM] <Evie> Good for KK, that is, not good that Mibbit won't work for Aerlys. :D
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:26:12 PM] <The_Bee> Yay for KK's eyes. Does the world seem like a brighter place now?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:26:33 PM] <KK> Second surgery is still scheduled for Oct. 2.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:26:43 PM] <DesertRose> Mibbit is a pain in the neck, IMO. I'm hoping this open-source program bynw has found will work out, because when he and I were playing with it, it's much more stable than Mibbit.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:26:45 PM] <KK> Definitely a brighter place, Bee.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:26:56 PM] <Aerlys> that's the fest of the guardian angels, so not such a bad day for surgery
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:03 PM] <Aerlys> feast
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:18 PM] <Jerusha> And the song "I can see clearly now" just popped into my head
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:27 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:29 PM] <The_Bee> festal, as opposed to Festil.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:34 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:42 PM] * Shiral doesnt want songs stuck in her head!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:42 PM] <KK> And close after Michaelmas.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:27:44 PM] <Aerlys> big difference
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:01 PM] <Shiral> Don't want any Festillic eye doctors, thats for sure
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:09 PM] <Aerlys> ew, ow
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:20 PM] <DesertRose> I constantly have music in my head, unless I have music playing. It does get annoying at times.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:28 PM] <Evie> So you can celebrate Alaric's birthday before having to go back to the doctor
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:40 PM] <cynicalmedic> My ears are still divining from the concert we went to last night.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:41 PM] * Aerlys muses that the soundtrack to her life is circus music
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:42 PM] <The_Bee> especially when it's a song you can't stand.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:44 PM] <DesertRose> And maybe your eyes will be in pretty good shape by your own birthday, KK.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:44 PM] <Jerusha> Somehow the song that the alarm clock plays sticks for no good reason
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:28:55 PM] <cynicalmedic> Ringing, that is.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:14 PM] <DesertRose> Concerts will do that.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:19 PM] <Shiral> Divining ears sounded interesting, CM
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:22 PM] <Jerusha> What concert?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:22 PM] <Shiral> =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:23 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:23 PM] <Evie> I wondered about ears doing divinatio
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:28 PM] <Evie> divination, even
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:40 PM] <cynicalmedic> Error between keyboard and chair.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:29:55 PM] <Shiral> My chair is a terrible typist
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:30:17 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:30:43 PM] <cynicalmedic> It doesn't help when a needy little mutt wants to walk on the keyboard, either.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:30:47 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:31:09 PM] <DesertRose> I met a dog today at fighter practice who is very sweet, but I keep screwing up her name. Her name is Bella and for some stupid reason, I want to call her Luna.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:31:16 PM] <Evie> I had a needy little kitteh in my lap for an hour earlier preventing me from doing anything
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:31:26 PM] <KK> Interestingly enough, I'm finding that after a little while at the keyboard, I can mane the new lens focus with the old computer-glasses lens. I wonder if that means I'm somehow strengthening the muscles that make the eyes focus, or maybe the surgery connected at least a little bit of the divergence.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:31:38 PM] <Shiral> I had to throw Dmitri out of my office while I was talking to the computer tech on the phone
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:31:46 PM] <Aerlys> DS and DD went to see Lindsey Striling. I wanted to go, but I was taking care of a friend's 3 boys. They said it was amazing
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:32:17 PM] <DesertRose> My DD and her best friend went to see Lindsey Stirling not long ago.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:32:17 PM] <The_Bee> maybe some of both, KK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:32:40 PM] <DesertRose> Whatever the reason, KK, it's good news. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:32:45 PM] <cynicalmedic> Several Species, Jerusha. They are a local Pink Floyd tribute. We've seen them every year, and they are amazing.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:32:53 PM] <Jerusha> A friend's 3 boys Aerlys? I think I understand the circus music.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:32:59 PM] <KK> Yep. Stay tuned for further developments.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:33:06 PM] <DesertRose> Absolutely.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:33:10 PM] <Jerusha> Sounds good, CM
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:33:12 PM] <DesertRose> How was your week, KK?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:33:24 PM] <Shiral> I can understand the circus music ALL the time in Aerlys's life with 7 kids around =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:33:38 PM] <DesertRose> But particularly so with 3 children in addition to her own. :D
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:33:50 PM] <Shiral> Oh yeah...
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:04 PM] <Aerlys> I guess the older ones are hardly children anymore
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:24 PM] <DesertRose> They could be 40 years old; they're still your babies. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:39 PM] <Jerusha> They are still children - just in a different way :D
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:40 PM] <DesertRose> Mine just turned 22 and she's still my baby girl.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:44 PM] <Aerlys> of course, but at 40 they usually aren't in diapers
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:51 PM] <DesertRose> Not generally, no. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:58 PM] <Shiral> one would hope not. =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:34:58 PM] <KK> Week was fine. I've been reading a couple of new Lord Peter Wimsey novels, following in Dorothy Sayers' footsteps. She goes a pretty good job. One can easily imagine that these books came from the mind of the same maestra.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:35:00 PM] <cynicalmedic> Mine is 27,and calls me every other day.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:35:11 PM] <DesertRose> Cool, KK.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:35:28 PM] <Jerusha> My youngest turned 28 this week
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:35:34 PM] <Aerlys> I was just re-reading the originals Wo wrote the new ones?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:35:44 PM] <DesertRose> I need to read some more. I spend more time in front of the computer than doing anything else.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:35:45 PM] <Aerlys> who
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:36:00 PM] <The_Bee> I've read one or two of those new Peter Wimsey books. adequate but not quite the original.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:36:15 PM] <Shiral> I just finished reading In this House of Brede by Rumer Godden
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:36:29 PM] <The_Bee> I forget the author's name. Do you recall, KK?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:36:39 PM] <DesertRose> BRB, need tea.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:36:46 PM] <Jerusha> I am starting to re-read itKS, in anticipation of KD
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:37:01 PM] <Aerlys> not that I've had much time for reading,
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:37:13 PM] <Shiral> Jill Paton Walsh, is what Amazon says
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:37:25 PM] <The_Bee> ah, thanks, shiral
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:38:40 PM] <Aerlys> I'l have to check those out...someday
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:39:14 PM] <KK> No, Bee, but the one I'm reading now is The Attenborough Emeralds.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:39:42 PM] <Shiral> I get the impression you rather like emeralds, KK. =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:40:00 PM] <KK> That's it, Shiral. I got the latest one at Dragoncon, and practically had it read by the time I got home, even factoring in the proofreading.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:40:24 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, back.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:40:44 PM] <jemler> front looks pretty good too dr
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:40:54 PM] * DesertRose smacks jemler with a goldfish.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:40:59 PM] <Shiral> Haven't read any of them, myself. I always worry that continuations will be a pale shadow of the original
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:41:05 PM] <cynicalmedic> I am re-reading Sharyn McCrumb's Ballad series in anticipation of her new book.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:41:20 PM] <The_Bee> she has a new one??
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:41:38 PM] <jemler> i just ordered 7 from an old fav off of ebay
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:01 PM] <Evie> Sorry, distracted. DS is home. Haven't seen him since last Sunday. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:13 PM] <DesertRose> Did he bring his laundry, Evie? :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:13 PM] <cynicalmedic> In October - "Ghosts of Christmas Past" with Nora Bonesteel.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:21 PM] <Evie> LOL! Yes, DR.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:26 PM] <DesertRose> :D
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:28 PM] <jemler> of course he did.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:35 PM] <Jerusha> Any food left in the fridge?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:43 PM] <Aerlys> DS1 starts college tomorrow, but he'll still be living here
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:47 PM] <Evie> Not much, actually.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:42:56 PM] <The_Bee> oH, Good! Nora Bonesteel is my favorite McCrumb character.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:10 PM] <jemler> nora bonesteel?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:20 PM] <Jerusha> What is DS1 taking, Aerlys?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:22 PM] <Aerlys> quite the name
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:31 PM] <jemler> kinda kinky
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:32 PM] <Evie> Yeah, mine lived at home his first year too. He had to either live at home or on campus, and we couldn't afford dorm prices. And he didn't have his job yet.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:35 PM] <Aerlys> industrial electronics and robotics
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:39 PM] <The_Bee> a fictional character, who ispsychic.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:45 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, wow. He's going to be busy, Aerlys.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:43:52 PM] <Jerusha> Very
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:04 PM] <Evie> cool major
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:06 PM] <DesertRose> Sounds interesting, though.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:14 PM] <cynicalmedic> She is a character in Sharyn McCrumb's novels about Appalachia.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:22 PM] <Aerlys> he's a bit nervous. classes are from 7:15 to 3 pm 5 days a weel
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:28 PM] <DesertRose> Wow, full day.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:30 PM] <DesertRose> And early start.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:41 PM] <Aerlys> and about 45 min away
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:53 PM] <Jerusha> He'll be getting up early
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:44:54 PM] <DesertRose> Eep. Quite a commute, then.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:45:06 PM] <Aerlys> it'll be good for him. he needed a change
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:45:16 PM] <Evie> Those early morning classes are killers. Hopefully he won't have to take classes that early every term
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:45:20 PM] <jemler> i used to walk 1.5 hours to get to work.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:45:27 PM] <Aerlys> not really far, but the traffic stinks
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:45:56 PM] <Aerlys> unfortunately, that's the way all his courses will be, Evie
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:45:56 PM] <DesertRose> DD is annoyed in the direction of the college from which she is trying to get her associate's degree, because they canceled the class she was going to take as her last class for the degree and gave her four days notice to find another course.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:46:02 PM] <The_Bee> Does he drive or take public transit?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:46:19 PM] <Jerusha> That sucks, DR
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:46:33 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, she was hacked off. She phoned me and griped for a good half an hour about it when she found out.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:46:34 PM] <jemler> dr, what major?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:46:35 PM] <Aerlys> He drives. public transit doesn't go as far as our house. besides, it would take longer
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:46:46 PM] <Aerlys> that does stink, DR.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:46:51 PM] <DesertRose> Well, the associate's degree is just general studies, but she's a physics major.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:47:21 PM] <jemler> perfect! i need a physical! :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:47:31 PM] <DesertRose> The class they canceled with next to no notice was an astronomy course that she was really looking forward to taking, and now she has to take a BS elective just to finish the degree.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:47:34 PM] <The_Bee> Is it a class she'll need to take, DR, or one she wanted?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:47:34 PM] * jemler ducks
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:47:38 PM] <DesertRose> So she was pretty annoyed.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:47:49 PM] * DesertRose loads a catapult with koi and fires it at jemler.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:47:59 PM] <Aerlys> maybe she can take Underwater Basket Weaving
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:48:05 PM] <DesertRose> She's taken all the required courses, but she really wanted this astronomy course for her last elective.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:48:28 PM] <DesertRose> She's going to take intro to acting, which should be a cake-walk for her. She was in the musical theatre club in middle school for about three years.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:48:43 PM] <The_Bee> What 's she chosen as a substitute?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:49:06 PM] <Aerlys> DS is going to a tech college for his AS, so at least most of his courses will be what he really wants to study
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:49:07 PM] <The_Bee> answered before asked!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:49:07 PM] <DesertRose> That's basically it, Aerlys; she just needs a few more elective credit hours to get the associate's degree, and it doesn't much matter what course.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:49:11 PM] <jemler> tell her to try Cinematic Astronomy. the study of movie stars.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:49:13 PM] <KK> Evie, how is DS settling into his classes?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:49:15 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:49:32 PM] <Aerlys> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:00 PM] <Aerlys> (I think jemler deserves a grilled salmon served on a platter for that one)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:20 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, or a nice rainbow trout with a lemon sauce. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:28 PM] <jemler> or maybe geological astronomy, the study of rock stars.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:38 PM] <The_Bee> served to him or thrown at him. Aerlys?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:48 PM] Quit Jerusha has left this server (Ping timeout: 121 seconds).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:55 PM] <jemler> bye jerusha
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:59 PM] <DesertRose> Both, a la Pike's Place Fish Market in Seattle. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:50:59 PM] <Aerlys> after the last pun, thrown at him
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:07 PM] <Shiral> Oops, missed Jerusha
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:14 PM] <DesertRose> I don't think Jerusha left on purpose.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:25 PM] <The_Bee> I thought Mibbit got her.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:34 PM] <DesertRose> I think she got pinged, and I'm wondering if Evie's about to ping out because KK asked her a question and she hasn't answered.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:38 PM] Quit cynicalmedic has left this server (Ping timeout: 121 seconds).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:41 PM] <Shiral> Oh dear, mibbetted!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:44 PM] <DesertRose> There goes CM too.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:46 PM] <jemler> KK, only 1 more week.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:54 PM] * Aerlys has an image of jerusha wrapped in a big sticky mibbit tongue...
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:51:57 PM] <KK> Until?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:08 PM] <jemler> Once upon a time returns
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:22 PM] <KK> I thought it was tonight.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:26 PM] Quit Evie has left this server (Ping timeout: 121 seconds).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:36 PM] <Shiral> Oh dear, three in a row
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:36 PM] <DesertRose> Damn. Looks like I jinxed Evie.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:38 PM] <Aerlys> DR called it
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:39 PM] <KK> Eeew, Aerlys!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:52:58 PM] <Shiral> Yes, sounds wet and well.....icky!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:01 PM] * Aerlys gins sheepishly
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:06 PM] Join Evie has joined this channel (Mibbit@OWIRCN-e8ce5021.al.charter.com).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:07 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, that does sound kind of gross. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:09 PM] <Aerlys> grins
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:10 PM] <Shiral> Sheepish Gin?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:13 PM] <KK> And sticky. Yuck!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:17 PM] <DesertRose> Rehi AGAIN, Evie.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:19 PM] <Shiral> Gin made by sheep?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:25 PM] <Evie> OK, I could see people were talking, but no text was appearing on my screen
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:27 PM] <Aerlys> wooly
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:33 PM] <Shiral> I guess Haggis and Bagpipes will still be part of the UK, though
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:40 PM] <Evie> except for my own
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:41 PM] <KK> Thank God!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:48 PM] <DesertRose> Well, that's annoying, Evie.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:48 PM] <Shiral> Aye
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:49 PM] <The_Bee> Wb again, Evie. Mibbit's really got it in for you.
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[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:53:58 PM] <DesertRose> Mibbit's got it in for everybody.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:54:01 PM] <Shiral> She fought free of the Tongue
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:54:02 PM] <DesertRose> Rehi Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:54:29 PM] <Jerusha> I saw that people were chatting, but I wasn't seeing anything, so I dropped off and came bakc
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:54:33 PM] <Jerusha> back, I mean
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:54:47 PM] <DesertRose> Stupid Mibbit.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:54:57 PM] <DesertRose> Evie was having the same problem, Jerusha.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:07 PM] <jemler> i log everything if anyone gets cut off
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:13 PM] <Jerusha> Loris, it must be Loris
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:19 PM] <The_Bee> Once Upon tonight is a repeat of last season'sfinale.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:26 PM] <KK> Yep, Once Upon a Time starts tonight. And also, Madame Secretary, which looks very interesting. (Sadly, they overlap because of football.)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:30 PM] <Shiral> But we haven't even mentioned Duncan!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:36 PM] <jemler> kk might have to hang him again!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:40 PM] <Aerlys> ah, DS just got home. she went to see ordinations in Idaho
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:44 PM] * Evie perks up at Duncan
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:55 PM] <KK> Ah, good. Then I can stay until 8:30.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:55:58 PM] <Shiral> Why would Loris have his undies in a bunch? Other than his undies being in a permanent bunch?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:06 PM] <The_Bee> According to tVGuide.com, tonight is a repeat of last season's finale.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:07 PM] <DesertRose> My mom told me I need to watch the Roosevelts thing that's been airing on PBS.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:25 PM] <Jerusha> Loris never seems to need an excuse
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:26 PM] <Evie> Who went to see ordinations in Idaho?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:27 PM] <DesertRose> She was watching it today when I went up to the house for a few, and it does look good.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:27 PM] <KK> What sort of ordinations, Aerlys?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:29 PM] <Shiral> That ended last night, DR
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:36 PM] <KK> Roosevelts series was very good.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:41 PM] <jemler> potato priests?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:45 PM] <Shiral> Alas, I hardly know what to do with myself without the Roosevelts to watch!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:56:47 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, and I don't even own a TV but I might be able to get it on PBS.org.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:57:16 PM] <DesertRose> Mom probably had it on the DVR and was watching it that way.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:57:20 PM] <Aerlys> sorry brb. dd has a lot to say...
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:57:26 PM] <Shiral> I recorded the whole series
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:57:44 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, I imagine Mom did too.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:58:00 PM] <Shiral> Elsa from Frozen would DEFINITELY get Loris' undies in a bunch!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:58:15 PM] <jemler> it looks like i can record roosevelts from on demand.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:58:18 PM] <Jerusha> I just watched Frozen last night
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:58:27 PM] <DesertRose> I heard (not sure how true this is) that they're doing "The Hollow Crown" part 2, with the later Shakespeare history plays. I meant to watch the first part and never got to see it all.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:58:33 PM] <Jerusha> In preparation for Once Upon a Time
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:59:00 PM] <Shiral> I have the DVDs of the first part of the Hollow Crown. Fell dead in love with Tom Hiddleston
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:59:09 PM] <DesertRose> I'd listen to and watch him read a phone book.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:59:13 PM] <DesertRose> Love him to pieces. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:59:22 PM] <jemler> shiral, isn'ty he loki?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:59:26 PM] <DesertRose> Yes.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:59:39 PM] <Shiral> Yeah, he's right up there in the phone book reading category.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [07:59:51 PM] <Shiral> He could also make grocery lists fascinating
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:00:03 PM] <DesertRose> And he seems to be a genuinely nice person in addition to being nice eye candy and having a lovely voice.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:00:31 PM] <Shiral> He is, but I've never seen the movie
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:00:46 PM] <Shiral> I saw him do a great bit with Cookie Monster
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:00:57 PM] <DesertRose> I've seen that in GIF format. Too cute.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:01:11 PM] <Shiral> I think he could be a good Rhys....
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:01:21 PM] <DesertRose> I always did love how Sesame Street could get ANYBODY (or darn near) to be on the show.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:01:26 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, he'd make a good Rhys.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:01:42 PM] <The_Bee> Is he a redhead?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:01:43 PM] <DesertRose> His hair is kind of blond, but that's nothing a wig or hair color couldn't fix.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:01:43 PM] Part Shiral has left this channel.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:01:54 PM] <DesertRose> Darn, we lost Shiral.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:09 PM] <KK> I think most actors deemed it an honor to be invited on Sesame Street.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:11 PM] <DesertRose> He's got kind of dark golden blond hair naturally.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:27 PM] <DesertRose> Sesame Street is awesome.
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[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:33 PM] <Aerlys> this was a priestly ordination near Post Falls. The seminary is actually in Winona, Minn, but this was a special occasion. It was done accroding to the pre-Vatican II rite.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:36 PM] <DesertRose> Rehi Shiral.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:36 PM] <Jerusha> Rehi Shiral
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:37 PM] <The_Bee> rehi shiral
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:41 PM] <Shiral> Poop, dont know what I did
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:44 PM] <jemler> a lot of them probably watched it as a kid
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:02:54 PM] <Shiral> Love for Tom Hiddleston must have made me black out
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:01 PM] <Aerlys> realy wanted to go, but couldn't afford to leave for another trip right now
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:03 PM] <Evie> lol
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:09 PM] <DesertRose> Probably, these days, but Sesame Street could almost always get a lot of great people to be on that show.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:15 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:25 PM] <KK> RC or Independent Catholic, Aerlys?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:29 PM] <Shiral> Even to the point of mentioning the dread Casting Couch
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:35 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:03:56 PM] <Aerlys> Traditional Roman Catholic, KK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:04:28 PM] <Shiral> Jeremy Irons, he'd make a fair King Donal....
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:04:30 PM] <KK> Interesting.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:04:37 PM] <DesertRose> Was anyone you know ordained, Aerlys?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:05:09 PM] <DesertRose> Jeremy Irons would make a lovely King Donal.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:05:20 PM] <DesertRose> He does morally ambiguous so well.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:05:38 PM] <Aerlys> No, not this time. I think there will be at least one or two ordained this sumer who I know, though. However, they are building a new seminary in Virginia, sicne they have outgrown the one in Minn.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:05:48 PM] <Shiral> Donal was....practical. And not bent down beneath an overactive conscience.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:05:56 PM] <DesertRose> True, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:13 PM] <Aerlys> Which reminds me, KK, I may I ask a question?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:16 PM] <jemler> practical... and horny.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:20 PM] <Shiral> Not that I think he was without conscience, but he wasn't one to belabor it like Cinhil!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:23 PM] * jemler ducks
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:24 PM] <DesertRose> jemler! Behave.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:39 PM] <KK> Sur, Aerlys.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:46 PM] <DesertRose> No, he was well aware of the necessities of ruthless kingship.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:56 PM] <Shiral> Well...He DID rather enjoy procreation it seems
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:06:58 PM] <DesertRose> Cinhil could have stood to cut himself a good bit of slack.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:07:18 PM] <Shiral> Cinhil really needed a swift kick.....almost ANYWHERE
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:07:20 PM] <DesertRose> Well, if getting there wasn't fun, nobody would want to go through labor more than once! :D
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:07:47 PM] <Jerusha> He should have found better regents
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:07:48 PM] <Shiral> Man can't have been a picnic to live with
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:07:53 PM] <The_Bee> Donal wasn't the one going through labor.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:07:56 PM] <jemler> heir and a spare, and there a spare, and there a spare, and there, and there....
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:08:12 PM] <DesertRose> I always felt sorry for Queen Megan. She got a raw deal.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:08:17 PM] <Shiral> She sure did
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:08:28 PM] <DesertRose> Not an uncommon raw deal in those days, but a raw deal nonetheless.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:08:42 PM] <The_Bee> I hear William and Kate are expecting again.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:08:53 PM] <Shiral> Whenever Cinhi actually paid attention to her or showed her affection, he would then promptly be guilt-stricken
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:08:56 PM] <DesertRose> Loving a man who never could show affection worth a darn, and then dying in childbed.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:09:10 PM] <Aerlys> this is more for consistency in the fanfic. I have been asked questions about the mass in the middle ages, but wondered if you based your descriptions on liturgy for that era, or used the pre-1960's mass as your model?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:09:11 PM] <Jerusha> Raw deal for sure
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:09:20 PM] <KK> Yep, and suffering serious morning sickness again.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:09:23 PM] <Shiral> I wonder how well her love lasted in the circumstances
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:09:57 PM] <DesertRose> I feel bad for her. That hyperemesis gravidarum is no joke, and it can be really serious.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:10:01 PM] <Jerusha> Or if she ever grew to love him at all
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:10:03 PM] <KK> Sort of crossed RC with high Anglican. It sort of evolved.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:10:45 PM] <DesertRose> I don't know, but she showed up in his death scene when Camber could see the people coming for Cinhil, so that implies that she did care. She also told Evaine early on that she cared for Cinhil.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:10:46 PM] <Shiral> Megan did love Cinhil at the start. And perhaps continued to do so, because to stop loving him would make her even more miserable. But she MUST have been impatient with him, sometimes!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:10:47 PM] <The_Bee> any Celtic Christian elements?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:10:55 PM] <Aerlys> thanks, KK.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:11:22 PM] <KK> Yes, Bee.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:11:59 PM] <Jerusha> I do need to re-read that series again
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:12:03 PM] <jemler> did yolu hear about the fanfic rewriting of harry potter?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:12:09 PM] <Aerlys> In the Middle Ages, parts of the liturgy were not set in stone, so there were certaib prayers that were regional
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:12:28 PM] <Shiral> I did...I think I'll stick to the original version!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:12:36 PM] <DesertRose> Seriously, Shiral. :)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:12:41 PM] <The_Bee> NO, Jemler. Is it any good?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:12:44 PM] <Aerlys> that sounds like the beginning of another bad joke
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:12:48 PM] <DesertRose> I've read some good fanfic, and that mess does NOT sound good.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:13:14 PM] <DesertRose> Somebody decided that Harry Potter was too unchristian and gave it an evangelical rewrite.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:13:14 PM] <jemler> a woman is rewriting as a conservative christian story. voldemort is using congress etc...
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:13:25 PM] <KK> It would be hard to improve on the original Harry Potter universe.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:13:27 PM] <Shiral> There is good fanfic, there's also bad fanfic and theres "That's eight hours of my life I'll never get back" fanfic
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:13:31 PM] <DesertRose> Indeed, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:13:35 PM] <Aerlys> lol
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:13:50 PM] <Evie> lol
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:14:06 PM] <Aerlys> though after the first housr I think I'd bail
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:14:08 PM] <Shiral> Which is a slight improvement over "Wash my eyeballs with bleach" fanfic
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:14:09 PM] <DesertRose> The people who wanted to burn HP books because of "witchcraft" made me alternately angry and wanting to laugh.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:14:33 PM] <DesertRose> For one thing, if you think I don't know whether my kid can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, you're out of it.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:14:33 PM] <Shiral> Anyone who wants to burn books makes me mad
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:14:40 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, burning books is uncool.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:14:55 PM] <jemler> i'm a kid. any time someone says don't do this, i DO it!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:02 PM] <DesertRose> There's that, too, jem.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:06 PM] <Shiral> You can try to stifle an idea, but you can't keep it from resurfacing again, no matter how many books...or people, you burn
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:19 PM] <DesertRose> Drat. I meant to hit the tab key so that it autocompleted jemler's name for me.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:29 PM] <Shiral> I'm none too fond of people who ban books, either
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:32 PM] <Aerlys> y'know, if your kid is that easily influenced by fiction, your problems go beyond Herry Potter
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:36 PM] <Aerlys> Harry
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:41 PM] <DesertRose> No, it doesn't make sense to me either.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:15:44 PM] <DesertRose> There you go, Aerlys.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:16:11 PM] <DesertRose> I felt like telling those people to buzz off, except not that politely.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:16:14 PM] <jemler> there was a study done that showed kids raised on religion cuoldn't tell fact from fantasy.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:16:19 PM] <Aerlys> If you have a real issue with a book, read it with your kids and discuss it
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:16:31 PM] <DesertRose> I'll let my kid read what she wants to read within reason, and she's my kid, not yours.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:16:37 PM] <The_Bee> I wonder if that woman would also want to rewrite the Narnia books, even though Lewis intended them as Christian parables.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:16:46 PM] <Shiral> It's one thing to forbid your kid to read Harry Potter--that's a parents decision and while I'm not crazy about it, it's their decision. but to re-write somebody ELSE's Work because you can't handle the original? and to completely wreck it in the process?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:16:59 PM] <DesertRose> That wouldn't surprise me, Bee.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:17:05 PM] <DesertRose> No kidding, Shiral.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:17:13 PM] <Aerlys> it sounds like the lady in question should just write her own alternate series of books,
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:17:32 PM] <DesertRose> Except from the excerpts I've seen of her fanfiction, she ought to stick to writing grocery lists.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:17:43 PM] <Shiral> It sounds like shes the kind of person who should stick to writing her signature on a check....and not attempt to foist her prose on the world
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:17:47 PM] <jemler> turnit over to the rush limbaugh press to be published.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:17:53 PM] <DesertRose> Or baseball score cards, or something. Not fiction.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:06 PM] <The_Bee> Are the books self- published, or did some legit publisher actually accept them?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:06 PM] <Shiral> I see we are of a similar mind, DR. =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:07 PM] <Evie> Actually I knew a pastor's daughter who had to read the Narnia books at home because her church's school didn't allow them in the school library due to the talking animals. "Talking animals aren't real," she was told. And then she got sent to the principal's office when she replied, "Did Balaam's ass speak in sign language?"
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:18 PM] <Shiral> lOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:21 PM] <Shiral> Neat one
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:23 PM] <jemler> lolo
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:27 PM] <DesertRose> Holy cow, Evie.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:35 PM] <jemler> what about that flipping snake?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:36 PM] <Shiral> Do holy cows speak?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:40 PM] <KK> Very good, Evie!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:41 PM] <The_Bee> Good for her!!:D
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:18:48 PM] <DesertRose> Even the evangelical Baptist school I went to let us read Narnia, and even read them to us.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:19:13 PM] <DesertRose> And that's a smart girl, Evie.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:19:17 PM] <Aerlys> the humans fear what they do not understand...
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:19:29 PM] <Evie> The sad thing was, her dad was pastor of the church the school was associated with, and despite that, the principal wouldn't allow the Narnia books. He didn't have a problem with them.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:19:36 PM] <DesertRose> And this was the Baptist school who gave me guff for taking a ballet class because it was dancing.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:20:05 PM] <Shiral> I think the reason I liked the Narnia books when I was young is that they are good stories, and they dont absolutely hit you over the head with the message. When I was older I said something like "really? They're suppposed to be Christian parables?" (I had a very secular upbringing)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:20:15 PM] <jemler> why can't they dance? two left feet?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:20:18 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, I still love the Narnia books too.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:20:35 PM] <DesertRose> No, we weren't supposed to dance because it wasn't godly or some such stupid crap.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:20:35 PM] <Aerlys> ack brb computer about to die,,,,
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:20:59 PM] <Jerusha> Oh dear
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:21:00 PM] <The_Bee> "And David danced before the Lord."
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:21:02 PM] <Shiral> Sometimes, people like that can really crimp everyone elses style
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:21:04 PM] <DesertRose> Turned me off the Baptist church forever, that school.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:21:13 PM] <jemler> david sang and danced according to the bible (heard that from 'Footloose')!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:21:18 PM] <DesertRose> No offense to anyone who is a Baptist, just not my style.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:21:56 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, I know dancing is Biblical, but that school was phenomenally strict about stupid crap, including dancing for whatever reason they didn't like it.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:06 PM] <Aerlys> now I have "Footloose' going though my head
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:08 PM] <DesertRose> That was around the time I started pestering to leave that school.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:11 PM] <Aerlys> through
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:24 PM] <Evie> The no-dancing rule and other legalistic rules are dying out with the older generation. In my day, we could have off-campus school dances at my Baptist college, but not on-campus ones because some of the Board of Trustees had issues with dancing. They also taught Modern Dance in PE, but called it Rhythms. Nowadays, it's not an issue on campus
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:32 PM] <The_Bee> Baptists have a pretty wide variety. Southern Baptists aren't the only kind.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:35 PM] <DesertRose> True.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:35 PM] <jemler> "Religion attracts the kind of people who think other peoples' lives are their business" - Pat Condell
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:44 PM] <Evie> It was the old folks who had a problem with it, but that generation is mostly gone now
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:22:45 PM] <DesertRose> This was an independent Southern Baptist church-run school.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:23:07 PM] <DesertRose> That's good to know that that stupid junk is going away.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:23:18 PM] <Shiral> So you declared your independence from the Independant Baptists? =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:23:19 PM] <Aerlys> no mosh pits, then
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:23:22 PM] <DesertRose> Yup.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:24:09 PM] <DesertRose> I grew up United Methodist anyway. My mom just sent me to the Baptist school because it was the best academic environment she could afford, which is a decision I respect, but some of the rules they had were beyond stupid.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:24:21 PM] <Shiral> There are certainly people who have the worst part of their natures brought to the fore by trying to run other people's lives
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:24:45 PM] <Aerlys> sounds like some politicians I can name
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:25:07 PM] <DesertRose> One of my friends was Catholic (not sure why she wasn't at Divine Redeemer School, honestly) and they gave her crap about idolatry because she was Catholic, which I hated. She transferred away from that school a few years before I did, partially because of that.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:25:20 PM] <jemler> i had one guy tell me i was going to hell because i had a beard in winter.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:25:30 PM] <Aerlys> wow
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:25:31 PM] <DesertRose> I also caught a lot of guff because my parents were divorced.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:25:40 PM] <Shiral> Sounds like his theology was shaky, Jemler =o)
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:25:55 PM] <Aerlys> but was a beard in summer, OK?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:26:16 PM] <DesertRose> Never mind that they got divorced when I was three, so it's not like I had much to do with it.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:26:24 PM] Quit Aerlys has left this server (Quit: CGI:IRC).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:26:27 PM] Join Aerlys has joined this channel (~ae1fd51d@971820.DC5E26.E57A87.522C17).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:26:36 PM] <Jerusha> WB, Aerlys
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:26:40 PM] <jemler> he claimed that any man with long hair,or a beard was automatically a homosexual.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:26:48 PM] <DesertRose> And my little boyfriend in elementary school got crap from the teachers because his mother wore jeans to work (she worked in the drydocks, so yeah, she was going to wear jeans and work boots).
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:00 PM] <Aerlys> That was totally my fault, No mibbit tomgue
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:04 PM] <Aerlys> tongue
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:10 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, you've got to be kidding me, jemler. That's beyond stupid.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:15 PM] <Aerlys> fingers don't want to work tonite
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:21 PM] <jemler> i wish i were.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:22 PM] <DesertRose> Rented fingers.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:36 PM] <Shiral> Not only ignorant about theology, but also about how human sexuality works
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:44 PM] <DesertRose> That would make me want to grow my hair long and a nice long beard if I were a man, just to tick him off.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:46 PM] <Evie> I am trying to imagine any man in Bible times without a beard or hair that is long by our modern standards. Facial hair went with adult manhood.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:27:54 PM] <Aerlys> maybe the uy had a thing for bearded women
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:10 PM] <Shiral> Had he ever seen a picture of Jesus?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:16 PM] <The_Bee> does anyone recall the man who was used by Renaissance or medieval artists as a model for Christ? One of the Borgias and very bad.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:17 PM] <jemler> the way he described it, christ was a us marine. clean shaven, crew cut.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:18 PM] <Evie> shaving was a lot harder in pre-modern days
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:29 PM] <DesertRose> You've got to be joking. What a dipstick.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:44 PM] <Aerlys> what was he smoking?
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:50 PM] <DesertRose> Seriously.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:28:51 PM] <Jerusha> And more painful
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:29:36 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah, trimming a beard was about the best you were going to get for a great portion of history.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:29:38 PM] <Shiral> Russian men are often bearded in winter to keep their faces warmer
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:29:40 PM] <jemler> i don't know. but he must have been using the pages from the bible he didn't agree with as rolling papers!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:29:44 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:29:50 PM] <KK> Whoop, gotta go. Madame Secretary is about to start. See everyone next week!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:29:55 PM] <Shiral> Night, KKK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:29:57 PM] <jemler> later kk
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:01 PM] <Jerusha> By KK, thanks for coming!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:02 PM] <The_Bee> bye KK! glad you came
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:03 PM] <Evie> Good night, KK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:04 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, see you, KK. Have a good week, and thanks for coming to see us!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:07 PM] <Aerlys> Nighters, KK
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:09 PM] <Shiral> Oops, KK! Have a good week
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:15 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:24 PM] <KK> Nighters!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:27 PM] <DesertRose> Night!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:30 PM] <Shiral> Night!
[Sunday, September 21, 2014] [08:30:33 PM] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
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