KK Chat -- 11 May 2014 (Happy Mother's Day!)

[DesertRose]

[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:12:52 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:00 PM] <Shiral> Hello, KK
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:01 PM] <Jemler> hi kk
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:03 PM] <Laurna> Good day KK
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:05 PM] <Jemler> happy mothers day
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:11 PM] <KK> Hello, all.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:12 PM] <Laurna> Happy Mothers day
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:23 PM] <DesertRose> Hi KK! Happy Mother's Day.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:39 PM] <KK> And Happy Mother's Day to all the other moms.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:13:56 PM] <Shiral> And Happy Mother's Day to the Little Bitty Mother who gave the world the Author of the Deryni series. =o)
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[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:23 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Jerusha.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:27 PM] <Laurna> Huzzah
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:30 PM] <Jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:33 PM] <KK> LOL. We took her to brunch today at the Stone Wall Jackson Hotel's buffet. Great food!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:35 PM] <Shiral> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:36 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:39 PM] <Laurna> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:45 PM] <DesertRose> Good, KK.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:48 PM] <Evie> Hi KK
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:55 PM] <Jerusha> Hi KK
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:14:56 PM] <Evie> Happy Mother's Day, Moms!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:15:03 PM] <Shiral> Sounds Delish
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:15:05 PM] <Laurna> delicious
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:15:20 PM] <Shiral> Cesca sends you a purr, KK
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:15:39 PM] <KK> Gus purrs at all of you from my lap.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:15:40 PM] <Evie> KK, Luke just sniffed your name on my monitor. I think that means Happy Mother's Day in kitteh
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:15:50 PM] <DesertRose> Hi, Gus, and hi Luke!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:16:01 PM] <Shiral> We are well catted
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:16:14 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, indeed, Shiral.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:16:36 PM] <Laurna> I believe my cat is out squirrel hunting
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:16:46 PM] <Shiral> Squirrel!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:16:47 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:02 PM] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:03 PM] <Jerusha> You have a cat, Laurna?
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[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:11 PM] <Jemler> i have a question re fabric
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:11 PM] <DesertRose> I thought you just had dogs, Laurna?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:13 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Bee.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:14 PM] <Jemler> hi bee
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:16 PM] <DesertRose> Fire away, Jemler.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:16 PM] <Jemler> happy mothers day
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:17 PM] <Laurna> Don't say that where the dogs will hear you
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:19 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Bee
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:21 PM] <Shiral> Hello Bee
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:27 PM] <Laurna> One cat too
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:28 PM] <KK> Hi, Bee.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:30 PM] <the_Bee> HI Dr and Jemler and Shiral
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:36 PM] <Shiral> Did you make the cat a little dog disguise?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:37 PM] <the_Bee> Hello KK!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:38 PM] <Laurna> Hi Bee
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:55 PM] <the_Bee> and laurna any anyone I've missed
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:17:56 PM] <Jerusha> A cavalier cat?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:07 PM] <Evie> Is the cat the boss of that pet household, Laurna?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:13 PM] <Jemler> i was reading kkb, and slubbed silk. what is slubbed?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:30 PM] <Shiral> Come to think of it a King Charles Spaniel and a cat are closer in size to one another than other dog breeds. =o)
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:36 PM] <Jemler> dhugal wore it in orsal
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:38 PM] <Evie> Jemler, if you've seen silk that has some thicker fibers in it, that is slubbed silk
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:41 PM] <Laurna> lol Jerusha there is no way my cat would wear a costum
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:41 PM] <KK> It has little irregularities that give it texture.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:53 PM] <the_Bee> It would have to be a prety big cat.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:18:59 PM] <Evie> it looks more homespun than silk that has even-sized threads, if that makes sense
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:19:30 PM] <Shiral> And a pretty small dog. But Francesca wouldn't wear a costume, and Dmitri wouldn't either. They're already perfectly dressed for any occasion.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:19:30 PM] <Laurna> Slubbed silk is dupioni silk or raw silk
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:19:48 PM] <DesertRose> I have some dupioni silk that has that slubbed texture.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:19:51 PM] <Evie> http://www.anhui-silk.com/shantung/slub%2012MM.jpg here's a pic, jemler
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:19:57 PM] <Laurna> Usually heavier less refined silk
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:20:18 PM] <KK> Silk drapes are usually slubbed.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:20:32 PM] <Shiral> But a more refined and costly fabric than say, your average homespun wool.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:21:00 PM] <Jemler> ok. thank you.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:21:49 PM] <Evie> does the passage say what color of slubbed silk he's wearing? I can see if I can find an inexpensive remnant to add to my fabric stash next time I'm shopping.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:21:57 PM] <Evie> for Mini-Dhugal, that is.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:22:05 PM] <Shiral> Black, I think it was. Or dark green
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:22:08 PM] <KK> The fact that we can even spin thread from silk worm cocoons blows my mind anyway. Such fine, fine fibers. Makes one wonder who first thought of doing it.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:22:31 PM] <DesertRose> Right? Who decided this was a good idea?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:22:37 PM] <Shiral> So would Forcinn Silk be more like a satin?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:22:54 PM] <Jemler> a 'tunic of slubbed black silk', pg 139 kkb
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:23:13 PM] <KK> Kind of, who first thought it was a good idea to cook and eat those big bugs we now call lobsters?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:23:24 PM] <Jemler> a woman in china, according to lehend.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:23:36 PM] <DesertRose> I hear that, and I don't like seafood, so I don't eat lobster anyway.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:23:47 PM] <Shiral> Whoever tried that for the first time must have been hungry. ANd probably a few centuries before drawn butter
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:23:47 PM] <Laurna> Satin is a weave over three threads to one down as a opposed to a normal weave of up and down.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:23:48 PM] <the_Bee> someone hungry enough who lived near the sea
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:23:50 PM] <KK> Well, they've always eaten weird things.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:24:05 PM] <DesertRose> Yeah.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:24:07 PM] <Jemler> you know. lobsters used to be food considered fit only for servants and prisoners.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:25:11 PM] <Laurna> Love lobster but don't try me on calamari or snail yike
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:25:30 PM] <DesertRose> Seafood has a weird texture; it bothers me. I also don't like the smell.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:25:43 PM] <Jerusha> Since I am allergic to lobster, I'll leave it to the prisoners
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:25:45 PM] <KK> It's the garlic butter that makes snails even marginally edible.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:25:49 PM] <DesertRose> My mother thinks I'm a changeling, because everybody else in the family will chow down on some seafood.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:25:52 PM] <Jemler> snails are NOT food! they're BAIT!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:25:55 PM] <Shiral> I've learned to like calamari. Snails are a little too....nasty for me. Reminds me too much of garden hose
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:04 PM] <Laurna> lol
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:05 PM] <DesertRose> Who chewed on a garden hose?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:17 PM] <Evie> the calamari I tried was sort of like battered and fried sections of garden hose
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:17 PM] <Shiral> It was rubbery...
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:22 PM] <KK> I've only tried snail once or twice. Too many other, better things to eat.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:27 PM] <the_Bee> I had snail once. it tastes better when ou call it escargot.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:29 PM] <KK> Even with garlic butter.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:31 PM] <Shiral> True that, KK!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:26:50 PM] * Shiral snaps fingers and sets up a virtual sundae bar with no lobsters, calamari or snails on it
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:05 PM] <Jemler> it tastes better when you feed it to a duck, and then eat the duck!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:08 PM] <Laurna> That is better thanks Shiral
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:09 PM] <KK> I like calamari.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:21 PM] <Shiral> I like calamari at a good restaurant
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:28 PM] <KK> True, Jemler! I like duck!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:36 PM] <Shiral> Yum....ducks
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:46 PM] <DesertRose> I had duck one time for Thanksgiving of all things. It is pretty good.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:27:51 PM] <the_Bee> The trouble with calamari is, it's hard not to get it rubbery.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:28:04 PM] <Jerusha> I find duck too greasy
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:28:07 PM] <the_Bee> Duck is good. all dark meat.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:28:08 PM] <Evie> wow...while looking up embroidered silk images, I stumbled upon this: http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/robert-campin/holy-trinity-gold-silver-and-silk-embroidery-pearls-glass-beads-and-velvet-applique-on-linen-1433
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:28:40 PM] <KK> I think it's always somewhat chewy, which I like. But there's chewy, and then there's rubbery. Big difference.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:28:42 PM] <Jerusha> Wow indeed, Evie
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:29:22 PM] <Evie> I look at that masterpiece, and all I can think is "Um, I cross-stitched a bunny once." :-D
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:29:31 PM] <Shiral> LOL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:29:59 PM] <Shiral> Well, whoever made that was doing it by candlelight which wouldn't have done their vision any good
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:30:10 PM] <DesertRose> I can't see the pic.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:30:15 PM] <Shiral> They should have used handfire!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:30:17 PM] <Evie> Or by natural daylight, with windows open
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:30:18 PM] <DesertRose> It keeps giving me an unresponsive script error.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:30:20 PM] <KK> Double wow. I love using glass beads and gold and silver threads in embroidery. But that's way beyond anything I'd ever attempt.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:30:51 PM] <Evie> Is this better, DR? http://uploads0.wikipaintings.org/images/robert-campin/holy-trinity-gold-silver-and-silk-embroidery-pearls-glass-beads-and-velvet-applique-on-linen-1433.jpg
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:30:55 PM] Join DF64 has joined this channel (Mibbit@4CA975.06D306.BECEE2.AC4E37).
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:02 PM] <the_Bee> Hi DF
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:06 PM] <DF64> 12hi all
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:09 PM] <Evie> hi DF
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:09 PM] <Jemler> hi df
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:10 PM] <Shiral> Hi DF
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:18 PM] <DesertRose> Hi DF64.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:27 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, actually, that will show up. Thanks, Evie.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:30 PM] <Jerusha> Hi DF64
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:38 PM] <Jemler> kk, once upon a time is a two-hour show tonight.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:47 PM] <DF64> 12everyone ready for tonight's 2 hour season finale of Once Upon a time
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:31:54 PM] <KK> Had a flash there of really fine detail, then it went to a more distant view. Couldn't make the detail stay.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:32:10 PM] <Laurna> Hi DF64
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:32:13 PM] <Jerusha> After mother's day dinner, no room for popcorn
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:32:17 PM] <KK> Yes, except that it overlaps with the new Rosemary's Baby.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:32:28 PM] <DF64> 12and game of thrones
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:32:29 PM] <DesertRose> That's what the DVR is for.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:32:34 PM] <DesertRose> BRB, need tea.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:33:17 PM] <KK> I can see GoT tomorrow night. Not sure when I might catch a repeat of Rosemary's Baby.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:33:19 PM] <Shiral> Rosemary's Baby--talk about a difficult pregnancy
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:33:48 PM] <Evie> Here's the pic on Wikimedia Commons, for anyone who can't view pics from the other website: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Trinity-of-the-broken-body-1911.jpg
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:34:31 PM] <KK> Don't have DVR. Too dense to program it.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:34:47 PM] <Jemler> rosemarys baby is a miniseries
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:01 PM] <DF64> 12ask a neighbor's 10 year old kid
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:03 PM] <KK> Yes, a two-parter.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:04 PM] <Jerusha> Not just a movie?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:12 PM] <Evie> That's when you get your son to write out step by step "recipe cards" on how to work your equipment next time he's visiting.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:16 PM] <the_Bee> not the original movie
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:48 PM] <Jerusha> My sons neither write down or follow directions.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:51 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:35:59 PM] <Jemler> what are directions?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:36:09 PM] <Jerusha> I rest my case
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:36:14 PM] <Evie> LOL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:36:28 PM] <Laurna> lol things you follow when all else fails
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:36:49 PM] <Jerusha> By then it's usually too late
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:36:58 PM] <DF64> 12:D
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:00 PM] <Laurna> so true
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:00 PM] <Jemler> do it the way mom told you to do it.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:12 PM] <DF64> 12Mother knows best
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:17 PM] <Jerusha> Who ever listened to me?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:30 PM] <KK> Part of the problem is that nothing comes with instruction manuals anymore. One is expected to intuit operation, I suppose. Hate the new programmable thermostat that came with our new HVAC unit.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:34 PM] <DF64> 12hope all moms here had a good mother's day
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:54 PM] <Shiral> So simple that only your child can do it
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:37:56 PM] <Jerusha> The horrible pictures instead of the written word
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:38:24 PM] <the_Bee> if Moses had asked for directions, he could have led the Israelites to the promised land in 40 minutes, not 40 years.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:38:29 PM] <Shiral> As if they'd hired Ikea to write all instruction manuals when what you really want is "Here is where you turn the unit on.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:38:44 PM] <KK> And translated from Japanese/Chinese/whatever.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:39:06 PM] <Shiral> The magi would have shown up on time, helped deliver the baby and brought useful presents
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:39:08 PM] <Jerusha> Some of the "translated" directions are hysterical
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:39:52 PM] <Shiral> Or enough to make you hysterical if you're trying to make the machine do what you think it should.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:40:38 PM] <Jerusha> Press this button to turn on the DVD and the washing machine blows up
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:40:58 PM] <the_Bee> I had a DVR that worked just fine. Then I had to ruin it by getting a satellite dish.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:41:02 PM] <KK> More than once, with my 1st computer, I was driven to tears of frustration whilst trying to figure out how to do something.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:41:05 PM] <Evie> My dad kept a set of directions for putting together a file cabinet because the directions appeared to have been translated from Chinese to something like Spanish, and from that to English, rather than directly translated from Chinese to English. So it end up with very funny imagery...
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:41:05 PM] <DF64> 12or the car starts up
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:41:18 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Evie.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:41:42 PM] <Evie> such as "Insert your fingernails into the behind of the artist" rather than "Insert nails into the back of the drawer."
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:41:54 PM] <DesertRose> ROFL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:41:55 PM] <Jemler> press the remote control for the tv, and the phone rings.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:42:33 PM] <Shiral> "But there wasn't an artist in the box or on the packing list!"
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:43:05 PM] <KK> Obviously they gave you the directions for some other item.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:43:17 PM] <the_Bee> Someone once used a computer to translate "out of sight, out of mind" into Chinese. it came back into English as "invisible idiot."
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:43:22 PM] <Shiral> "Assemble your own artist" kit, maybe?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:44:08 PM] <KK> English is a very complicated language. I'm just glad it was my first.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:44:25 PM] <Shiral> Yes. I feel for anyone learning it as a second language
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:44:25 PM] <Jerusha> And my only
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:44:50 PM] <DesertRose> English makes no darn sense at all if you're coming at it from some other language.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:45:00 PM] <DesertRose> It barely makes sense to native speakers.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:45:30 PM] <KK> Well, some translates directly. But then you start running into the idioms, and you
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:45:42 PM] <Evie> The thing is, the directions made perfect sense if you considered the thought process behind it. How would a non-native English speaker trying to pick English words out of a dictionary know that (metal) nails and (finger) nails aren't the same thing? or know that a "drawer" and a "draw-er" (person who draws) are different? Or that back and behind have different connotations?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:46:11 PM] <KK> re doomed. I loved the way Ziva kept making little errors on NCIS.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:46:12 PM] <DesertRose> This is why I'm very forgiving of people who clearly do not speak English as their first language. I'll cut a non-native speaker a lot of slack, where I fuss at my daughter for hosing up grammar and spelling all the time.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:46:50 PM] <Evie> Oh! speaking of language, DH needs the Latin translation for the following motto: "The answer is always love."
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:47:28 PM] <Evie> he is creating a medallion for someone with a 15th century persona (last quarter of that century), so whatever Latin was in use at that time would be best
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:47:46 PM] <Evie> and also how her name (Mistress Ginevra Brembati) would be Latinized
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:01 PM] <the_Bee> semper caritas , I don't know "answer" in Latin
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:02 PM] <KK> What is Latin for answer? I'm drawing a blank.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:07 PM] <DesertRose> Responsum
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:37 PM] <DesertRose> So responsum semper caritas (est). The est is optional, because it would be understood in Latin.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:38 PM] <KK> So, Responsum semper caritas?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:52 PM] <Evie> So would Responsum semper caritas be grammatically correct?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:55 PM] <DesertRose> Ys.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:55 PM] <Jerusha> I have an irresponsible desire to ask "what was the question?'
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:48:57 PM] <DesertRose> Yes.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:49:01 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Jerusha.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:49:03 PM] <Jemler> i got 'et respondedum est, quod amare'
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:49:26 PM] <Jemler> i got 'et respondendum est, quod amare', sorry
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:49:34 PM] <Evie> I think "Caritas" is closer to the meaning of love needed for this rather than "amare".
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:49:50 PM] <the_Bee> amor and caritas are different kinds of love.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:49:51 PM] <Evie> At least if "amare" would be more of a romantic love than a universal (agape) sort of love
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:50:39 PM] <DesertRose> Well, the verb amo is fairly general, but amor is generally romantic, where as caritas is more like a Latin version of agape, yes.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:50:48 PM] <KK> I think caritas is the right kind of love for this motto.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:50:50 PM] <DesertRose> *whereas
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:50:57 PM] <DesertRose> I don't know where that darn space came from.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:50:58 PM] <the_Bee> agape is Greek, isn't it?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:51:02 PM] <DesertRose> Yes.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:51:10 PM] <Evie> yes, Bee
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:51:22 PM] <Evie> But it's that sort of love that's meant in the motto, I'm fairly sure
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:51:27 PM] <Jemler> well, i have enough trouble speaking english. i american you know.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:51:32 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:51:54 PM] <DesertRose> I'm American too, but I read and write Latin, Spanish, and some French.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:52:07 PM] <DesertRose> And I'm a shaky speaker of Spanish due to lack of practice.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:52:10 PM] <Evie> How would the name be Latinized?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:52:24 PM] <Jemler> what name?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:52:37 PM] <DesertRose> Well, the name is already Italian, so it wouldn't be a far stretch to Latinize it.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:52:43 PM] <Evie> Mistress Ginevra Brembati
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:53:08 PM] <Evie> yes, but I don't know the suffixes or what-not to know how to "stretch" that direction.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:53:18 PM] <DesertRose> Magistra would be Mistress.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:53:20 PM] <the_Bee> "Ginevra" already looks Latinate. Brembati might be Brembatia
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:53:47 PM] <Evie> would Magistra come before or after the name, or does it matter?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:53:55 PM] <DesertRose> Doesn't really matter much.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:07 PM] <the_Bee> or Ginevera? not sure
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:07 PM] <DesertRose> Mistress as in "teacher," basically.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:14 PM] <Jemler> Dominae - mistress
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:30 PM] <DesertRose> Domina is mistress as in the mistress of a household or mistress over slaves.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:42 PM] <Evie> LOL! yes, let's go with magistra.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:55 PM] <KK> I would think that Magistra is closer in meaning.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:55 PM] <Evie> She's going to be a Laurel, not a dominatrix.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:54:59 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:55:07 PM] <DF64> 12:D
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:55:09 PM] <Jemler> patrona
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:55:22 PM] <the_Bee> or matrona?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:55:24 PM] <KK> BRB
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:56:06 PM] <Evie> Part of a Laurel's responsibilities would include teaching, so I think Magistra will work great
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:01 PM] <the_Bee> "A" Laurel? I thought that was tree.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:07 PM] <the_Bee> a tree
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:09 PM] <DesertRose> SCA stuff, Bee.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:10 PM] <Jemler> order of the laurel, sca
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:17 PM] <Evie> in the SCA, Bee. Equivalent of knighthood, but in the arts and sciences
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:19 PM] <the_Bee> ah. ok
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:53 PM] <Jemler> kk, time
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:57 PM] <DesertRose> You could probably get away with what Bee said about the name, leave Ginevra alone and change Brembati to Brembatia.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:57:58 PM] <Jerusha> It's almost time for Once Upon a Time, so I will sign off
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:05 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, see you, Jerusha.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:11 PM] <Jerusha> Bye everyone!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:12 PM] <Jemler> nite jerusha
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:15 PM] Quit Jerusha has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:15 PM] <DF64> 12 2 whole hours
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:18 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:21 PM] <Jemler> let the exodus begin
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:22 PM] <Shiral> Oops, Bye, Jerusha
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:26 PM] <Shiral> Dang
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:30 PM] <DesertRose> Pretty much, except KK is AFK.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:32 PM] <the_Bee> bye jerusha and other OUaT fans. I tape mine.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:58:41 PM] <Jemler> so do i
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:59:36 PM] <Evie> OK, thanks for the help. Will pass the info on to DH
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:59:49 PM] <the_Bee> glad we could help
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [07:59:57 PM] <DesertRose> You're welcome. You might want to run the name past someone who has studied Latin more recently than I have, though.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:00:16 PM] <DesertRose> But I think you can get away with what Bee said.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:00:57 PM] <Jemler> nite everyone. appt tomorrow.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:06 PM] <DesertRose> Night, Jemler.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:09 PM] <the_Bee> After all, "Kelson" is Latinized simply by adding -us.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:10 PM] <Evie> I'll also run it by Aerlys
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:17 PM] <DesertRose> Sounds like a plan.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:22 PM] <the_Bee> bye Jemler
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:22 PM] <Laurna> Good night Jemler
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:24 PM] <KK> OK, back long enough to say nighters. See you next week.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:33 PM] <Shiral> Bye, KK
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:34 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, night, KK. Have a good week and thanks for coming to see us!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:37 PM] <Jemler> nite kk
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:42 PM] <Evie> Goodnight, all! I need to go too; DS has dinner plans for me.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:45 PM] <Laurna> Good night KK
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:46 PM] <DesertRose> Night, Evie!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:46 PM] <the_Bee> bye KK thanks for coming
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:55 PM] <Shiral> How would you latinize Araxie?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:57 PM] <Laurna> Have a nice dinner
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:01:57 PM] <the_Bee> bye Evie
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:02:01 PM] <DesertRose> Araxia, maybe?
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:02:03 PM] <Evie> bye KK!
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:02:04 PM] <Shiral> Bye, Evie
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:02:04 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, May 11, 2014] [08:02:21 PM] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).