KK Chat -- 16 June 2013 Part 1

[DesertRose]

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[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:25 PM] <irina> Leiden! one daughter went to an open day there and got a very cool bag, which she's going to carry when she goes to the university in Utrecht.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:28 PM] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:30 PM] <jemler> hi kk, cm
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:31 PM] <irina> hi KK!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:44 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hello, everyone!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:45 PM] <Evie> hi, KK
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:47 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, awesome, Evie. Does he know what specialty?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:48 PM] <jemler> you live in germany?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:57 PM] <the_Bee> Hi KK and CM
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:58 PM] <irina> me? no, Nether;ands
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:01:59 PM] <Evie> I don't know, DR. I don't think so.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:08 PM] <DesertRose> There's a lot you can do as an ARNP.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:14 PM] <jemler> he wants to practice on nurses of course!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:20 PM] * jemler ducks
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:21 PM] * Evie smacks jemler with a mackerel so often, she's created a macro for it. *thwack!*
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:30 PM] * DesertRose pelts jemler with sardines.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:36 PM] <jemler> missed me!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:44 PM] <irina> is a mackerel handier than a trout?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:45 PM] <Evie> How are our intrepid heroes, KK?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:02:46 PM] <DesertRose> How goes, KK?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:03:02 PM] * jemler runs up an alley
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:03:06 PM] <jemler> FISH!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:03:18 PM] <Evie> Handier for me, Irina, since I programmed a macro into my chatware that flings mackerels at jemler if I type /mackerel
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:03:33 PM] <DesertRose> We use whatever fish come to mind, irina, and it's almost always jemler who makes the horrid jokes that get one smacked/pelted/otherwise abused with fish.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:01 PM] <jemler> they used to use chocolate fudge, but i'm great for dipping!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:14 PM] <KK> Hi, guys.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:21 PM] <Evie> Hi, KK
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:29 PM] <bynw> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:32 PM] * DesertRose loads a catapult with fudge-coated trout and flings it at jemler.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:41 PM] <DesertRose> What a waste of good fudge.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:55 PM] <irina> what has jemler done to you?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:04:59 PM] <jemler> next time try raisins or peanuts
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:05:01 PM] <Evie> Two of the littles went to an SCA event last night, KK. Photos are up on the Forum.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:05:11 PM] <DesertRose> It's a running joke about his bad puns.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:05:23 PM] <irina> oh right
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:05:28 PM] <the_Bee> Jemler had made horrid puns and semi-dirty jokes.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:05:34 PM] <jemler> i guess i'm not very punny, huh?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:05:37 PM] <KK> Yes, I saw them. Looks like they had a good time.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:05:45 PM] <DesertRose> You're very punny, just not FUNNY.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:06:03 PM] <jemler>
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:06:49 PM] <Evie> Our group hosted the event, so it was a busy weekend.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:07:00 PM] <Evie> Not too busy for a few photos though
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:07:06 PM] <DesertRose> Oh fun, Evie.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:07:19 PM] <KK> I have a Gus in my lap tonight. He's been in this chair with or without me, for several days. I made the mistake of combing him with the flea comb--we're fighting off an invasion--and I think he likes the attention.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:07:19 PM] <jemler> what's the differnce between a licensed practical nurse and licensed impractical nurse?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:07:48 PM] <the_Bee> We had a parade down my street today. Bunker Hill Day.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:07:48 PM] <Evie> Gigi is curled up in my lap and using my right arm for a pillow
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:07:49 PM] <KK> Helli, Irina, and welcome.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:08:00 PM] <KK> Hello
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:08:15 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Gus.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:08:16 PM] <irina> I like the variant :-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:08:31 PM] <KK> Sounds somehow foreign, doesn't it?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:08:52 PM] <DesertRose> Helli looks like a nickname to me for some reason.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:08:59 PM] <irina> like those songs that make you sound Italian because you sing strange vowels.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:02 PM] <KK> So, are you Dutch, or are you just living in the Netherlands?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:07 PM] <irina> both, in fact
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:17 PM] <jemler> convenient
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[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:33 PM] <KK> Ah. Cool! You have a nifty new king and queen. I watched their installation.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:37 PM] <DesertRose> Hey Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:38 PM] <Evie> hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:39 PM] <jemler> hi jerusha
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:42 PM] <TheDeryni> Hi, Katherine.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:47 PM] <KK> Hi, Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:56 PM] <Sarah> hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:09:58 PM] <Jerusha> Hi KK; hi everyone!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:10:03 PM] <irina> my great-grandmother was English and my grandfather on the other side Frisian, so that makes me only 13/16 Dutch
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:10:16 PM] <irina> er, 5/8 even
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:10:19 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:10:22 PM] <KK> Sounds pretty Dutch to me.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:10:52 PM] <irina> yes, the Dutch are mongrels like the English
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:10:59 PM] <jemler> sis you know the Pennsylvania Dutch, aren't actually Dutch?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:00 PM] <KK> And your name is almost my middle name, Irene.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:16 PM] <jemler> didis you know the Pennsylvania Dutch, aren't actually Dutch?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:17 PM] <KK> THey're Deutsch.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:26 PM] <irina> so German.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:38 PM] <Evie> I was wondering who your "sis" was, jemler
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:42 PM] <KK> My father's people are all from Germany, starting in about 1745.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:43 PM] <jemler> yes. my fathers family came from germany in 1803.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:46 PM] <the_Bee> Do The Dutch ever go Dutch Treat?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:11:49 PM] <jemler> typo
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:12:08 PM] <irina> KK: I chose the name myself when I became Orthodox, I had a name that didn't fit me at all
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:12:22 PM] <irina> (and which I'm not telling, for that reason)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:12:24 PM] <KK> Frisians breed cool horses.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:12:33 PM] <irina> yes! also awesome milk cows
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:12:50 PM] <KK> Ah. And youre Orthodox? That's also cool. What made you convrt?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:13:10 PM] <KK> (Lost a couple of vowels there.)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:13:16 PM] <jemler> but once you milk a bull, you've got a friend for life!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:13:20 PM] * jemler ducks
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:13:22 PM] <KK> (And an apostrophe.)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:13:26 PM] <Jerusha> Jemler!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:13:27 PM] <Evie> I had a neighbor who changed her name from Antoinette to Antonia when she became Orthodox, because she never thought Antoinette fit her well, and she liked Antonia better.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:13:38 PM] <irina> I started out Lutheran, and the lutheran church had more liturgy pomp-and-circumstance than other protestant churches
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:14:04 PM] <irina> (apropos of Antonia, we almost called a daughter that but it was my mother-in-law's name and she didn't want to be named after)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:14:10 PM] <KK> Orthodox liturgy is cool. Very long, but very cool. We have a friend who's an Orthodox bishop in Palermo.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:14:41 PM] <KK> What was your old name?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:14:53 PM] <jemler> shes not telling!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:14:59 PM] <irina> then I started going to other churches, and a friend took me to a Byzantine-rite Roman Catholic church and I thought "that's the way I want to relate to God"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:00 PM] <KK> I won
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:08 PM] <irina> so I sought out the real Orthodox church
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:10 PM] <KK> I won't hold that against her.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:14 PM] <irina> and stayed
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:31 PM] <DesertRose> The big Orthodox church around here is about to build themselves a new sanctuary; the current one is really pretty, though, and I sort of wonder how they'll top it.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:48 PM] <irina> when i realised I'd be allowed a new name I made a shortlist of cool saints and tried each name on for a day
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:54 PM] <KK> So, are you under Russian, or Greek, or some other flavor of Orthodox bishop?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:15:55 PM] <irina> finding out I wasn't an Anna or an Elizabeth
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:07 PM] <irina> Russian, but of the patriarchate of Constantinop;le
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:15 PM] <irina> our bishop is in Paris
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:16 PM] <Evie> Irina is pretty
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:25 PM] <DesertRose> Irina is a pretty name.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:28 PM] <KK> Yes, I like th name Irina.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:42 PM] <irina> I like it too (obviously) but I'd have liked to be Elizabeth.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:44 PM] <DesertRose> KK, you should use it for somebody Torenthi!
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[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:54 PM] <Evie> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:54 PM] <jemler> hi shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:54 PM] <irina> one of my daughters has it as a middle name
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:57 PM] <DesertRose> Hey Shiral.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:57 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Shiral!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:57 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Shiral!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:16:59 PM] <cynicalmedic> Hi Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:00 PM] <KK> I think it's on my short list.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:00 PM] <irina> hi!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:03 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:04 PM] * Shiral enters in a blast of bright blue
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:08 PM] <Shiral> Hi everyone
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:11 PM] <irina> ooh pretty!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:11 PM] <bynw> hyias sis
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:27 PM] <KK> Why could you not choose Elizabeth? Too many others around you?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:38 PM] <irina> didn't seem to fit me.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:38 PM] <DesertRose> If my ex hadn't been such a jerk, my daughter's middle name would have been Elizabeth.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:52 PM] <irina> also, yes, my best friend is Elizabeth
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:17:59 PM] <irina> (she's my daughter's godmother)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:18:09 PM] <Shiral> Good thing you shed him, DR
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:18:12 PM] <DesertRose> Indeed.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:18:21 PM] <DesertRose>
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:18:24 PM] <Evie> A friend of mine had several really flowery names picked for her daughter before she was born, but after she saw her, she said, "None of those names work; she's an Emma." :-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:18:25 PM] <KK> Ah. Well, I know it's a favorite saint name in orthodoxy, but it doesn't sound as orthodox as Irina. Good choice.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:18:44 PM] <irina> I like Catherine too (of Alexandria)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:14 PM] <irina> KK: I love the way you got Orthodoxy right for Torenth
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:25 PM] <jemler> you could try Elsbeth, Lisbeth, Elzibeta...
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:34 PM] <DesertRose> I wanted to name the kiddo Adrienne Elizabeth, and he shot both names down; I told the podchild about it in later years, and she told me I should have told him to jump in a lake, because she liked that name better than the compromise name she wound up with.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:47 PM] <irina> when I was reading KKB I couldn't keep from squeeing about it in choir practice
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:52 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:53 PM] <jemler> podchild, body snatchers?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:54 PM] <Shiral> Did you have a handy Orthodox priest standing by for research questions, KK? =o)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:19:56 PM] <Evie> I loved seeing the differences between Torenth and Gwynedd. Not just the ritual magic, but all of it.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:20:03 PM] <irina> can't she change her name?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:20:19 PM] <DesertRose> It's an old joke. One of my friends when the kiddo was little said that any child of mine must be a hell-begotten podchild.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:20:27 PM] <KK> I've found it fascinating. And I've checked along the way to make sure I got it right, like when I had Kelson join the Torenthi royals for communion at the killijalay.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:20:31 PM] <DesertRose> She could, if she really wanted to, but she's used to her name now.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:20:40 PM] <irina> yeah, there's that
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:20:53 PM] <irina> also everybody else is used to it (which is what's still haunting me)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:21:08 PM] <jemler> hell-begotten? the little devil!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:21:28 PM] <DesertRose> It was really more a reflection on me and my ex than the kidlet per se.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:21:57 PM] <KK> And I pulled that funeral liturgy bit for Marie from the SOng for Athene, that was sung when Princess Diana's coffin was carried out of Westinster.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:21:59 PM] * Shiral wishes she could see the inside of the Hagios Iob
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:22:28 PM] <Evie> so you can build it in paper, Shiral? :-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:22:31 PM] <KK> Weswtminster
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:22:44 PM] <irina> try again? :-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:22:45 PM] <Evie> That there fancy church in London.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:22:47 PM] <Shiral> So I can go INTO the building, Evie. I concentrate on the outsides
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:22:57 PM] <KK> Westminster. Got it!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:22:59 PM] <DesertRose> Which fancy church in London? There are a fair few.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:23:01 PM] <irina> yay!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:23:12 PM] <Evie> In that case, I want to see Saint Hilary's Basilica. Particularly a certain bishop
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:23:18 PM] <Evie> bishop's study.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:23:22 PM] <irina> Westminster Abbey (and that almost came out Westmister)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:23:29 PM] <Shiral> Wouldn't mind that. Also wouldn't mind seeing St. George's
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:23:30 PM] <Evie> Though the bishop would be nice to encounter too.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:23:59 PM] <the_Bee> I saw St. Paul's Cathedral once.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:06 PM] <DesertRose> KK, did you base any of the cathedrals on any given real cathedral?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:07 PM] <Shiral> "Daughter, why are you dressed so....strangely?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:14 PM] <Evie> I was saying "Fancy church in London" as a work around to having to try to spell Westminster a third time, DR. ;-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:16 PM] <Shiral> I've seen Paris and Chartres
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:21 PM] <jemler> a cloister encounter?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:21 PM] <DesertRose> I know. I was just teasing.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:30 PM] <KK> We occasionally went to a Church of Ireland church in Dublin that's very gothic/orthodox inside. Beautiful.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:40 PM] * DesertRose rolls her eyes at jemler.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:24:44 PM] <Shiral> And St. Sernin in Toulouse. a Romanesque church, but I think I like Gothic better
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:25:14 PM] <DesertRose> Romanesque has its charms but Gothic is really gorgeous.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:25:39 PM] <Shiral> Esp the stained glass. But I did like the Monastery of Moissac which I saw two years ago
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:25:53 PM] <DesertRose> My mom and I went and saw Mozart's Requiem at an Episcopal church a few months ago, which was neogothic, and really beautiful.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:25:57 PM] <KK> I didn't base the churches on any particular churches. THey're more generic Romanesque/gothic.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:12 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, I was just being an architecture nerd for a minute.
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[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:33 PM] <DesertRose> Mibbit doesn't like Jerusha today.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:36 PM] <KK> DR, you can be an architecture nerd anytime.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:43 PM] <Shiral> I've sat through more Art History courses than you can shake a stick at, so you're not alone, DR.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:48 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, that was my favorite section of art history.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:53 PM] <Shiral> I like the Romanesque aesthetic, too
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:55 PM] <KK> Says the lady who lived in a gothic revival house for 21 years.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:26:58 PM] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:27:19 PM] <irina> here's the inside of our church http://valdyas.org/~irina/pics/petrusenpaulus2a.jpg
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:27:28 PM] <DesertRose> I have to imagine that the old place must have been a pain to heat, pretty as it was.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:27:34 PM] <irina> (old not very good pic, the kid on the left is my eldest who is now 19)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:27:41 PM] <Shiral> Yes, Holybrooke was very special
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[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:27:51 PM] <DesertRose> Rehi Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:02 PM] <Evie> I realized this weekend I need to make new stone wallls for Duncan's study, since I doubt they'd be undressed gray stone, would they? Maybe something more like travertine marble in a Basilica study?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:04 PM] <irina> oh, and the kid you can just see at the centre doors is my middle kid who is now 17 and about to study English literature
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:05 PM] <the_Bee> WB Jerusha
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:07 PM] <Jerusha> We had a small power bump that knocked me off
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:08 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, wow, irina.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:23 PM] <irina> http://valdyas.org/~irina/pics/petrusenpaulus3.jpg
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:35 PM] <DesertRose> And your middle kid is a child after my own heart. My major was English lit.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:38 PM] <irina> that's at Easter a couple of years ago
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:28:51 PM] <Evie> Mine was too
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:29:04 PM] <DesertRose> Double wow, irina.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:29:05 PM] <Shiral> So has Alaric returned from the execution of Jorian, KK?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:29:22 PM] <Jerusha> Very impressive, Irina
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:29:28 PM] <Evie> Nice pic, Irina
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:29:52 PM] <Evie> Both pics, that is.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:29:53 PM] <DesertRose> I have yet to see Orthodox Christian architecture/decor that wasn't fabulous.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:30:15 PM] <KK> He's just returned, Shiral, and I'm ready to write the transition to the Marluk segment, which is mostly alrady written. I spent the past week expending and polishing what I'd already done on that segment, then broke it into 3 chapters and prited out. Whew!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:30:21 PM] <irina> http://www.valdyas.org/~irina/pics/kerk_deventer.jpg this is the outside, it's a converted shop
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:30:24 PM] <Shiral> THey knew their way around mosaic with gold backgrounds.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:30:31 PM] <irina> the door on the left is our front door!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:30:41 PM] <Shiral> Why Katherine, you busy bee!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:30:43 PM] <irina> we live right above it
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:30:48 PM] <DesertRose> I saw a TV miniseries years ago that had a few scenes shot in the Orthodox cathedral in St. Petersburg, Russia, the name of which is escaping me right now, and it was beyond beautiful.
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[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:31:03 PM] <irina> trinity cathedral?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:31:19 PM] <Evie> That's convenient, Irina...not a long walk to church, if it's next door. ;-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:31:25 PM] <Shiral> I know I love the sound of Russian choral singing
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:31:42 PM] <Evie> My church used to be a hardware store. I'll spare you photos of the architecture. ;-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:31:46 PM] <irina> Evie: no excuse to skip church when it's raining
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:05 PM] <Shiral> I was thinking that too, Irina. =o)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:21 PM] <KK> So, you really do live next door to the church?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:26 PM] <irina> yes!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:28 PM] <Shiral> You'd really have to be inventive to come up with a good excuse to skip a sunday
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:45 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, gosh, Shiral, don't get me started on that. Have you ever heard the Rachmaninoff "Bogoroditse Devo?"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:47 PM] <KK> And how convenient, to pop in for a bit of solo meditation.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:58 PM] <Shiral> "It's the Holy Hammer of Orchard Supply!"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:32:58 PM] <Jerusha> I might consider skipping Monday
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:33:24 PM] <DesertRose> I have a recording of the St. Olaf College Choir singing it, and it is FABU.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:33:27 PM] <irina> when the church needed more room they bought the cellar and the house on top, made a community room from the cellar, expanded the church into the old community room, and sold the house
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:33:38 PM] <Shiral> I may very well, I have three CDs of Sacred Treasures. Gawgeous. Makes one want to write Torenthi-based fan-fic
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:33:41 PM] <jemler> go to http://www.saint-petersburg.com/cathedrals/index.asp
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:33:42 PM] <irina> and we were just looking for a bigger house closer to the town centre
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:33:45 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Shiral.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:03 PM] <irina> I want to read Torenthi-based fanfic!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:09 PM] <irina> also want to read KKB again
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:10 PM] <DesertRose> I think that piece might be the single most sublime 2 minutes-ish of choral music ever omposed.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:38 PM] <jemler> c
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:51 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, irina, I should pester Festil to join us. He's a huge fan of all things Torenthi and KKB is his favorite Deryni novel; y'all could geek out together.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:54 PM] <irina> KK: we do have a key, and tend to let in people who stand in front of it with their nose to the window
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:56 PM] <Evie> I'd love to see Torenthi-based fanfic too. I don't know enough about the culture to write it myself.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:34:58 PM] <Shiral> It's gonna have to wait until I've moved, sorry
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:35:44 PM] <Jerusha> Any good prospects on that front, Shiral?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:35:50 PM] <KK> So, you're sort of unofficial vergers....
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:36:04 PM] <KK> Shiral, does that mean you've bought?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:36:06 PM] <Shiral> Well, I've found a little place I'm going to try for
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:36:08 PM] <jemler> DR try this link: http://www.saint-petersburg.com/cathedrals/index.asp
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:36:16 PM] <irina> we've managed to avoid responsibility and cleaning duties, but we let in workmen and interested people
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:36:38 PM] <Jerusha> Fingers are crossed for you, Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:37:06 PM] <KK> Good purchase woodgies to you!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:37:22 PM] * irina sends some good house thoughts
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:37:23 PM] <DesertRose> I believe it may have been Sts. Peter and Paul. That looks right, to my memory.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:37:29 PM] <Shiral> No, alas, KK. Went to look at a place in Sunnyvale at the start of this month in the same property as the last bid I lost on. The kitchen, diningroom and living room were okay. Then I went into the bedroom. There was a putty-grey back of garage wall about five feet away from both bedroom windows. It was a view only an inmate at San Quentin could love!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:37:37 PM] <irina> ooh! our church is SS. Peter and Paul too!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:37:51 PM] <Shiral> Since then, I've been at the bottom of Cycle low. Until yesterday
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:37:59 PM] <Shiral> This place has a great kitchen
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:05 PM] <Shiral> It's small, but... I like it
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:10 PM] <DesertRose> My mom went to a church in Savannah that was St. Michael and All Angels, which always makes me think of St. Uriel and All Angels in the Deryniverse.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:12 PM] <Jerusha> And a better view?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:13 PM] <KK> And a better view, I hope?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:17 PM] <irina> it's ironic that it's called Sunnyvale!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:18 PM] <Shiral> MUCH!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:39 PM] <Jerusha> Is it a condo?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:41 PM] <irina> I've had a devotion for St. Michael forever, since I was Protestant.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:49 PM] <Shiral> But I found out last week that that last failed bid.... was just $2K short
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:51 PM] <Shiral> ACK
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:54 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, you are in THE RIGHT GROUP, irina.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:56 PM] <jemler> isn't that where they filmed buffy the vampire slayer?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:58 PM] <Shiral> Yes, Jerusha
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:38:59 PM] <KK> St. Michael is a good friend to have on your side!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:39:09 PM] <Evie> There was a church in Anniston that was Saint Michael and All Angels, and they used to do a Shakespearean Sunday Mass in conjunction with the Alabama Shakespeare Festival, which was also in Anniston back in those days.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:39:40 PM] <jemler> irina, are you a Michaeline?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:39:40 PM] <DesertRose> Mom's Savannah time was before I was born, but if they'd still been living there by the time I came along, I probably would have been christened at St. Michael and All Angels.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:39:45 PM] * Shiral wonders if there's a patron saint of housing
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:39:59 PM] <DesertRose> There must be. There seems to be a patron saint for darn nigh everything.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:40:03 PM] <Jerusha> St Mortgage
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:40:08 PM] <KK> St. Joseph is good for selling properties; maybe for buying them as well.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:40:08 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:40:20 PM] <irina> that's like St. Expedite!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:40:26 PM] <KK> Yes!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:40:59 PM] <Shiral> Or Saint DownPayment
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:00 PM] <Evie> It was a gorgeous church, with stone and craftmanship imported from England. (They employed woodcrafters to create the angel-headed beams and the altar, and also the workers who built the church from the imported stone.)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:09 PM] <DesertRose> Oh wow, Evie.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:36 PM] <DesertRose> Shiral, I just found a Catholic site that says that St. Joseph is the patron saint of both home sellers AND buyers.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:47 PM] <irina> jemler: not in any formal group, of that's what you mean
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:52 PM] <irina> *if
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:52 PM] <DesertRose> So perhaps a prayer to the Earthly Father?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:53 PM] <jemler> wait a minute! now we're importing ROCKS?!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:41:55 PM] <Shiral> Around here, he must be darned busy these days
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:42:03 PM] <KK> Shiral, scrape together that extra $3,000, and make our bid an odd number over what you think you'll need. (I watch too much HGTV.)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:42:34 PM] <Jerusha> You are not alone, KK
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:42:47 PM] <Shiral> Fortunately, the list price of this place starts lower, and so we can make a competetive bid and still hopefully come in below that high water mark.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:42:51 PM] <DesertRose> My uncle chose Joseph as his confirmation name for St. Joseph, so perhaps I should ask him to pray to his confirmation patron for you, Shiral.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:43:01 PM] <KK> It's mu default station while I'm eating lunch. And sometimes I get hooked.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:43:13 PM] <Shiral> Any particular magic to Odd-numbered downpayments?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:43:16 PM] <Evie> OK, I misremembered about the altar...that was marble: http://www.stmaaa.org/history.html
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:43:24 PM] <DesertRose> Oh man, KK, my mom too. She loves those remodeling shows.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:43:47 PM] <DesertRose> Almost as much as she loves cooking shows and true crime.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:44:12 PM] <KK> No, just don't do a round number, like 200,000. Make it $200,011, or something like that.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:44:15 PM] <irina> Evie: wow!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:44:19 PM] <Shiral> I don't get HGTV with the basic cable package. Probably good, since I watch TV too much anyway
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:44:41 PM] <DesertRose> HGTV is addictive if you like home decor and remodeling.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:45:00 PM] <Evie> I haven't been there since the 1980s, but I can still remember those carved beams. :-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:45:07 PM] <DesertRose> Cool, Evie.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:45:09 PM] <Shiral> Hopefully, I'm about to get really interested in that, although the place is pretty move-in ready as is
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:45:21 PM] <DesertRose> Awesome, Shiral. I hope you get it.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:45:23 PM] <KK> I get it on my little TV, which is only the basic package, no HD. It's channel 50 on Comcast.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:45:49 PM] <Shiral> Hmmmm, then Comcast is being evil on my coast!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:05 PM] <Shiral> Channel 50 where I am is TLC
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:07 PM] <Evie> They did a Mass based on the version of the liturgy used in Shakespeare's day, then a bus would take people to the Shakespeare Festival to watch whatever play they were doing that month.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:14 PM] <KK> TLC here is 41.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:14 PM] <Shiral> But then I get to watch Brides Say Yes to the Dress
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:22 PM] <KK> Yes, that's fun.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:24 PM] <DesertRose> My daughter loves that show.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:38 PM] <Shiral> My sister got me hooked so it's all her fault.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:46 PM] <DesertRose> Must have been the original Book of Common Prayer service, Evie.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:46:58 PM] <irina> jemler: this? http://michaelines.net/
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:01 PM] <Shiral> It's amazing how much variety there can be between one white dress and the next
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:06 PM] <KK> And the one where they remake old wedding gowns, maybe a family gown, into a modern one that respects the features of the old one. Inevitably, they're great.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:11 PM] <Evie> I don't currently have cable or satellite TV, just Netflix. So we're watching some old episode of Dirty Jobs right now.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:24 PM] <Shiral> And some brides really get beat up by their nasty entourages
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:30 PM] <DesertRose> http://stjohnthedivine.com/ If you click on Church Tour, you'll see a video of the big local Greek Orthodox church where I am; it's lovely.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:32 PM] <Shiral> Oh I really enjoy that show too, KK
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:48 PM] <jemler> irina: looks like a web page!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:50 PM] <Shiral> Often, the remake is much more attractive than the original dress!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:47:54 PM] <cynicalmedic> My sister reconstructed my mother's dress for her wedding - she needed to add length
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:48:07 PM] <irina> jemler: now I see the point of the fish :-)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:48:12 PM] <DesertRose> If I hadn't grown up to be taller and fuller-busted than my mother, I might have tried to use my mom's dress if I'd ever remarried.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:48:23 PM] <irina> jemler: was that what you meant when you asked me whether I'm a Michaeline?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:20 PM] Join Alkari has joined this channel (Mibbit@OWIRCN-1c36a9e8.internode.on.net).
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:28 PM] <Evie> Hi, Alkari
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:31 PM] <KK> Hi, Alkari.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:33 PM] <DesertRose> My mom's dress from when she married my dad is actually kind of back in fashion now. Except it would never in a million years fit me right, because I wound up with my paternal grandmother's height and build.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:36 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Alkari.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:37 PM] <Alkari> HI there - late as usual!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:40 PM] <Jerusha> Hi Alkari!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:47 PM] <Shiral> Hi Alkari
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:53 PM] <DesertRose> Better late than never, Alkari.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:56 PM] * Alkari waves at everyone
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:49:59 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Alkari
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:00 PM] * irina waves at Alkari
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:15 PM] <jemler> hi alkari
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:18 PM] <cynicalmedic> Well, Sis is 6'3" - Mom was only 5'11"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:32 PM] <jemler> irina, you said you had a devition to st michael, so...
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:36 PM] <Shiral> So petite, CM
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:40 PM] <irina> wow, none of the women in my family are over 5'7"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:47 PM] <DesertRose> My mom is 5'7" and I'm 5'9", but it's really the bust thing that's the major problem with me attempting to wear her dress.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:50:48 PM] * Sarah is only 5'1"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:05 PM] <cynicalmedic> I'm the family runt now - I'm 6'
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:06 PM] <DesertRose> Only three of the women in my family are UNDER 5'7".
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:06 PM] <Shiral> Yeah, Irina. My whole family missed the "tall boat" too
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:08 PM] <Jerusha> Jerusha is 5'2"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:22 PM] <irina> I'm 5'5" and so is my youngest, her twin is 5'7", the 19yo is 5'3"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:24 PM] <Alkari> I'm 5'8"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:25 PM] <Shiral> Execpt for my nephew who is 6'
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:42 PM] <Shiral> I'm 5
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:45 PM] <Evie> I'm somewhere between 5'4" and 5'5"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:48 PM] <Shiral> 5'6"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:51:58 PM] <the_Bee> At 5'4" I'm the tallest of my sisters
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:07 PM] <irina> that church tour is splendid!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:13 PM] <KK> (Sarah is our shrimp.)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:17 PM] <irina> we should make one too for our webpage
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:17 PM] <the_Bee> recently shrunk to 5'3"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:18 PM] <DesertRose> Wow, CM. Y'all must have a lot of trouble finding trousers long enough; I have enough trouble at 5'9".
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:29 PM] <Shiral> Most of my family hovers around the five foot six range
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:33 PM] <irina> I stopped wearing trousers years ago
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:52:52 PM] <jemler> oh really!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:00 PM] <irina> only skirts, and sweatpants when I go to the swimming pool
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:07 PM] <Alkari> LOL - I stopped wearing skirts and dresses as far as possible
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:11 PM] <cynicalmedic> We do - and sleeves long enough, too. Buying a coat is always a challenge, and I buy men's uniform pants for work.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:17 PM] <DesertRose> Everything that's supposed to fall to the ankles ends up as high-waters, and everything that's supposed to fall to the knees ends up at longish miniskirt length.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:28 PM] <Shiral> Pants are almost always too long for me
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:32 PM] <DesertRose> Yes, I hear you about the sleeves.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:50 PM] <Alkari> I have that trouble DR, and as I have long arms, the sleeves especially so
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:57 PM] <Shiral> They don't call me "Lemur Limbs" for nothing
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:53:59 PM] * Sarah has begun making her own clothing, and fixing bought clothing to fit correctly.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:54:00 PM] <DesertRose> My maternal grandmother, at 5'2", was one of the few women in the family under 5'7", and she had to alter everything she owned, because it was all too long.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:54:22 PM] <cynicalmedic> Oddly enough, I recently found two pairs of dress pants at Deb that were the perfect length
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:54:28 PM] <irina> I have short legs which is a good thing because I like my skirts longish.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:54:35 PM] <DesertRose> Oh wow. Were they hideously expensive, CM?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:54:37 PM] <Alkari> Also long boots - I am long from knee to ankle, so 'knee lenght' boots invariably aren't!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:54:51 PM] <DesertRose> That's the other problem I run into; I find something that fits and it's WAY out of my budget.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:54:59 PM] <cynicalmedic> No - they were nineteen dollars a pair.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:03 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, awesome.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:16 PM] <Jerusha> My grandmother was under 5 feet; my grandfather made her a kitchen with everything low enough she could reach
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:21 PM] <DesertRose> I have slightly long everything, which makes fitting clothing a real pain in the neck.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:22 PM] <cynicalmedic> Needed some for my new "real" job
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:26 PM] <Alkari> When you find stuff like that, CM, buy as many items as possible
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:37 PM] <DesertRose> Jerusha, that sounds like the house at Rocky Ridge Farm.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:39 PM] <KK> Finding skirts that are at least to the knee is hard. Right now, all the trendy skirts and dresses seem to be about 4 inches above the knee. Not a good look for me.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:55:57 PM] <irina> I buy skirts in the market, in the "hippie" stall
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:00 PM] <Sarah> I'm with KK on the skirt thing
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:00 PM] <DesertRose> Me neither, KK. My legs are not pretty above the knee. I have decent calves, but my thighs are just awful.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:13 PM] <the_Bee> I like maxi skirts.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:14 PM] <Alkari> I hide my legs as far as possible!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:16 PM] <KK> Yep.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:21 PM] <Jerusha> Me too
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:24 PM] <irina> recently found a splendid green wraparound skirt which I'm going to save for my foster-daughter's wedding on the 30th
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:25 PM] <DesertRose> Oh, I recently saw something on tumblr about how to tailor various styles of skirt.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:27 PM] <Shiral> All my skirts end up being just above ankle length. Which is okay with me
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:29 PM] <cynicalmedic> Holy Clothing has some nice things, too - they aren't too expensive, wither
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:34 PM] <DesertRose> I can go find it if anybody's interested.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:36 PM] <cynicalmedic> either
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:38 PM] <Alkari> Below the knee or maxi for skirts
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:56:59 PM] <Sarah> I like wearing skirts and shorts, but I have to have them at least to the knee or slightly above because im so short
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:06 PM] <Shiral> Oops, I have to go be an employee again
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:07 PM] <KK> In the winter, mid-calf with tall boots is a good look for me.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:11 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, see you Shiral.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:15 PM] <Alkari> Yes KK
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:18 PM] <irina> my shortest skirt is exactly to the knees and I only wear it when it's sweltering hot
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:21 PM] <Sarah> I'd rather have my skirts floor length
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:24 PM] <the_Bee> bye Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:25 PM] <cynicalmedic> Night, Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:26 PM] <Jerusha> Bye Shiral! Good luck with the condo
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:26 PM] <DesertRose> That looks nice on a lot of people, KK.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:27 PM] <irina> yes, ankle or floor
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:27 PM] <KK> Bye, Shiral, and good luck on the bidding wars.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:28 PM] <Sarah> night Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:30 PM] <Alkari> Night Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:30 PM] * Shiral waves farewell, and steps onto the gold mosaic panel in the cathedral floor
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:37 PM] * irina waves
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:39 PM] <Evie> I prefer mid calf to ankle length skirts myself
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:42 PM] <Shiral> Sorry all gotta run!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:43 PM] <Evie> bye Shiral
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:46 PM] <Shiral> BYE!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:57:57 PM] <Evie> trying to type around cats again. Plural.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:11 PM] * Shiral disappears in a cloud of gold insense smoke
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:11 PM] <DesertRose> I refuse to wear skirts shorter than knee length, and preferably around tea length. That's a good length on me, but it's hard to find a skirt that hangs right, so I wear a lot of trousers.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:11 PM] <irina> can't you dictate to the cats and let them type?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:18 PM] <KK> Oh, now it's plural. Lucky you.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:24 PM] <Shiral> They can't spell!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:30 PM] <Evie> yeah, I'm now the kitty couch
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:31 PM] Quit Shiral has left this server (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:31 PM] <irina> that's a problem
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:34 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Evie.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:37 PM] <the_Bee> Since when did a cat ever listen to a dictator?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:39 PM] <DesertRose> Hi Luke, hi Gigi.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:44 PM] <KK> But Bee's cat is very talkative even if we can't understand what she's typing.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:47 PM] <Alkari> Cats ARE doctators.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:52 PM] <Alkari> * dictators
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:58:54 PM] <DesertRose> Since when did a cat ever listen to anything but the can opener or the food hitting the dish?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:06 PM] <Evie> I would do that, but Luke would type rigieaitkhtng and then Gigi would step on the Escape key
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:09 PM] <irina> Mi-i-aow, mi-i-i-aow!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:14 PM] <Evie> Gigi loves the escape key
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:29 PM] <Alkari> Oh they listen to everything - they just don't really care unless it affects them!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:32 PM] <KK> Gus was typing lllllll a few days ago.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:35 PM] <cynicalmedic> Mine listens to the canary singing, but with evil in her heart
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:37 PM] <DesertRose> That's about the size of it, Alkari.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:41 PM] <DesertRose> Oh dear, CM.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:45 PM] <irina> I miss cats
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:50 PM] <DesertRose> Me too, irina.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [07:59:52 PM] <irina> other half is deathly allergix
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:10 PM] <DesertRose> I can visit my parents' cats, but right now, finances preclude me having a pet.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:13 PM] <Alkari> Our building rules don't allow animals - I'd love a cat
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:14 PM] <jemler> so do i. those little buggers are fast!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:16 PM] <irina> friend's friend wanted two of our cats, sometimes send me pics
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:19 PM] <Evie> Luke has proven his mouser skills again this week, KK. And this time, since no one was awake, he left his present next to the trash can, since he apparently noticed that's where I put his last one.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:19 PM] <KK> How sad for both of you!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:40 PM] <Alkari> Yes, but I have friends with lots of animals - though mainly dogs and horses
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:44 PM] <Sarah> Aw, Evie
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:46 PM] <irina> the third went to live with someone who had an elderly cat with the same kidney condition so they could eat from the same bowl
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:00:51 PM] <Jerusha> Good thing he didn't put it on your pillow, Evie
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:02 PM] <DesertRose> My parents' older cat is finally learning that she doesn't have to take crap from the kitten, that the humans will support her if she wants to give him what-for.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:05 PM] <cynicalmedic> Fortunately, she can't reach any of the birds - she's have to climb on the ferret cage, and she won't do that.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:10 PM] <Evie> LOL, Jerusha
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:14 PM] <DesertRose> Oh fun, CM.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:20 PM] <DesertRose> Ew, Jerusha.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:23 PM] <irina> do the ferrets have an opinion?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:28 PM] <Alkari> But giving your owner presents on the pillow is such FUN.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:38 PM] <KK> How do cats and ferrets get along, CM?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:51 PM] <DesertRose> Merlin, the kitten, is a sneak thief. He likes to steal makeup brushes, socks, and underwear.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:01:51 PM] <irina> next to the bed is even better, so they step on it in the morning!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:09 PM] <irina> (BTDT, we had a tortie who was a great mouser)
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:17 PM] <cynicalmedic> Poorly, KK - at least mine. There's always a stand off, and the cat loses every time
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:20 PM] <Sarah> torties are so cute!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:21 PM] <KK> Ever stepped on a day-old dead mouse in your bare feet? Yuck!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:30 PM] <irina> yes, that, exactly
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:32 PM] <Jerusha> Ew
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:35 PM] <bynw> ewwwww
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:41 PM] <Sarah> grody.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:52 PM] <DesertRose> Ew, KK.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:54 PM] <Alkari> I used to house-sit for friends with ferrets. 2-3 horses, 2 ferrets, several birds, guinea pigs ... and the occasional dog
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:02:56 PM] <Evie> my mom did that once
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:12 PM] <Sarah> Alkari: that sounds a lot like my sister.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:12 PM] <Evie> she stepped on something beside her bed that she thought was a bedroom slipper, but it wasn't
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:14 PM] <KK> Bynw, don't your girls being you dead presents?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:22 PM] * bynw girls aren't mousers ... doubts they have even seen one
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:25 PM] <DesertRose> Alkari, that sounds like my family for a while there int the 1970s. Two dogs, two house cats, one neighborhood cat, and a horse.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:26 PM] <cynicalmedic> My sister's cat used to bring her dead snakes, too
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:37 PM] <DesertRose> *in
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:37 PM] <bynw> the girls havent yet
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:49 PM] <KK> Gus caught a little garden snake shortly after we moved to VA.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:52 PM] <the_Bee> http://www.cracked.com/article/226_6-adorable-cat-behaviors-with-shockingly-evil-explanations_p2/
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:03:55 PM] <DesertRose> PJ, the older cat, likes to hunt snakes.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:04:07 PM] <DesertRose> Fortunately she has yet to find a venomous one.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:04:07 PM] <bynw> now the cat i had before the girls, Neko .. yes he brought all kinds of dead gifts
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:04:58 PM] <Sarah> my sis has like a billion kitties, four to six inside, 7 chinchillas, up to a dozen horses, and miniature ponies, chickens, a recently acquired emu.... two dogs i think.. pigeons...
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:06 PM] <DesertRose> Holy cow, Sarah.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:17 PM] <Jerusha> Egad
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:18 PM] <KK> No cow, I don't think.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:21 PM] <Sarah> and some inside birds, two, dunno what they are
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:23 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, KK.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:37 PM] <Sarah> shes had one, before I came into this world
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:41 PM] <cynicalmedic> Wow - Dr. Doolittle! All she's missing is the pushmepullyou
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:43 PM] <KK> An emu, though. That's cool.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:05:59 PM] <Sarah> lol cynicalmedic!!!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:06:01 PM] <Alkari> where did she get the emu from?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:06:05 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, CM.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:06:05 PM] <Sarah> No idea
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:06:23 PM] <Alkari> Not allowed to keep them as pets here, without special licences
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:06:25 PM] <KK> We have people breeding llamas locally; they use them for watch-llamas with the sheep, among other things.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:06:42 PM] <DesertRose> You can harvest llama wool and weave it, if you really want to.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:06:58 PM] <Sarah> shes had a llama previously. It didnt settle well so she rehomed it, i believe. Shes also got a turkey thats in the barn with the chickems
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:09 PM] <irina> I was oon a train once (in the Netherlands) and passed a field with about half a dozen llamas in it, various colours.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:11 PM] <Alkari> They use ostriches as watch birds in S Africa I believe
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:13 PM] <Sarah> chiekens*
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:18 PM] <Evie> I read that as "turkey that's in the barn with the children."
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:21 PM] <DesertRose> One of my SCA friends is all about textile stuff like that, and she found somebody who kept llamas and would allow her to collect wool from them when it was warm enough.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:25 PM] <irina> couldn't believe it but they were still there on the way back
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:39 PM] <jemler> Battle Ostriches!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:07:58 PM] <Alkari> Theyé as good as geese, only bigger and kick harder
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:03 PM] <DesertRose> Although she showed me how to spin and weave with regular sheep wool.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:10 PM] <cynicalmedic> My sister has chickens, guinea keets, horses, and dogs - she wants some pigs, but my brother in law is reluctant
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:14 PM] <KK> Ostriches can be pretty ferocious, can got a pan with a kick. They bred them near us in Ireland.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:23 PM] <the_Bee> One local town has recently been terrorized by wild turkeys.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:38 PM] <KK> can gut a man....
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:44 PM] <DesertRose> Wild turkeys could be next Thanksgiving dinner.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:54 PM] <cynicalmedic> I understand that peacocks are rather ferocious, too
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:56 PM] <KK> I've read about the attack turkeys.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:08:58 PM] <DesertRose> Supposedly wild turkey has a more interesting flavor than domestic.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:08 PM] <DesertRose> Never had it myself.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:17 PM] <Alkari> Alas, we are not allowed to hunt the wretched brush turkeys here
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:21 PM] <KK> Peacocks can also be very territorial.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:22 PM] <the_Bee> I don't know if they're a protected species or not.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:24 PM] <Alkari> They probably tast ghastly anway
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:29 PM] <DesertRose> LOL, Alkari.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:37 PM] <DesertRose> They didn't used to be.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:09:38 PM] <Alkari> But hey are a ***** nuisance
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:02 PM] <DesertRose> My Little House cookbook said something about being able to hunt wild turkey, but then that book was published around the time I was born, so that info might be a wee bit out of date.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:05 PM] <irina> I know that a swan can break a human's arm, but I didn't know about peacocks.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:17 PM] <Evie> I think we're about to go out to the movie DH wants to see for Father's Day, so I need to head out.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:20 PM] <irina> the ones I know usually look at me disdainfully and walk away.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:27 PM] <KK> They aren't as big as a swan.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:31 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, have fun at the movies, Evie.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:32 PM] <jemler> what movie?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:33 PM] <cynicalmedic> Night, Evie
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:35 PM] <Jerusha> What movie, Evie?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:37 PM] <irina> but *much* more disdainful!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:39 PM] <Evie> Star Trek
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:39 PM] <KK> What are you seeing, Evie?
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:42 PM] <irina> ooh!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:43 PM] <DesertRose> Ah.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:43 PM] <Alkari> I always think that peacocks make such an awful noise!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:53 PM] <DesertRose> They're pretty, but yeah.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:56 PM] <Jerusha> Enjoy, Evie and DH
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:56 PM] <Evie> Peacocks sound like a woman screaming
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:10:58 PM] <Alkari> Oh, hope you like it - it's on my llist to see
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:01 PM] <KK> Peacocks sound like they're screaming "Help!"
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:07 PM] <irina> yes, the ones in the park shriek so loudly that we can hear it (half a mile away) with the right wind
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:12 PM] <DesertRose> Evie, I think people are expecting a movie review next week!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:24 PM] <KK> I liked it better than the tirst one.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:25 PM] <Evie> I finally saw the last one on DVD, so we're ready to see this sequel
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:32 PM] <Alkari> Yes - I have no idea why people want to keep them around as 'decoration'
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:51 PM] <Sarah> Peacocks, and Guineas are awful.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:55 PM] <KK> They have pretty feathers.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:56 PM] <cynicalmedic> Sis says her friend has one that attacks strangers - runs at them screaming and flapping.
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:11:57 PM] <Alkari> I saw The Great Gatsby last week
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:12:00 PM] <irina> guinea-fowl are yummy!
[Sunday, June 16, 2013] [08:12:05 PM] <Evie> Okey dokey then. Bye!